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2013-12-16 01:50:44 PM
IPAs are the crutch of microbreweries who haven't figured out how to properly scale up production.

Hops masks all of your other mistakes. If you manage to screw that up, add even more hops and call it a "double IPA".
 
2013-12-16 01:58:20 PM

Donnchadha: IPAs are the crutch of microbreweries who haven't figured out how to properly scale up production.

Hops masks all of your other mistakes. If you manage to screw that up, add even more hops and call it a "double IPA".


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Love me some hoppy IPA.
 
2013-12-16 02:03:07 PM
I've had 5 of their top 10, only 3 are sold in my area which is why I dislike TOP 10 lists of regionally distributed, small-market beers.

That said, Odell's IPA is probably my favorite. Other good ones that deserve a mention are Anderson Valley Brewing's Hop Ottin' IPA, Green Flash IPA and Dark Horse's Crooked Tree IPA. Lagunitas IPA does not belong on the list and honestly neither do the Sierra Nevadas.
 
2013-12-16 02:19:32 PM
Glad to see Bell's Two-Hearted place so high. It's my go-to IPA.
 
2013-12-16 02:24:15 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Donnchadha: IPAs are the crutch of microbreweries who haven't figured out how to properly scale up production.

Hops masks all of your other mistakes. If you manage to screw that up, add even more hops and call it a "double IPA".

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Love me some hoppy IPA.


I never said I didn't like hoppy beers (as long as they aren't the "Hoppiest-Hop-That-Ever-Hopped-A-Hop" Sextuple IPA), I'm just pointing out why there are so many of them these days.
 
2013-12-16 02:30:10 PM
It's a pretty good list. Not the order necessarily, but the beers on it. One that's missing it Cigar CIty's Jai Alai. Love that stuff. Bell's Two-Hearted is pretty awesome too.

IPAs in general are not my favorite, but there are some that display a really great balance of hops punch and actual malt backbone.
 
2013-12-16 02:31:55 PM

cr7pilot: It's a pretty good list. Not the order necessarily, but the beers on it. One that's missing it Cigar CIty's Jai Alai. Love that stuff. Bell's Two-Hearted is pretty awesome too.

IPAs in general are not my favorite, but there are some that display a really great balance of hops punch and actual malt backbone.


The Sierra Nevada Celebration, #9 on the list, is a really good hoppy/malty balance.
 
2013-12-16 02:32:37 PM

Donnchadha: IPAs are the crutch of microbreweries who haven't figured out how to properly scale up production.

Hops masks all of your other mistakes. If you manage to screw that up, add even more hops and call it a "double IPA".


Even after microbrewers get better and scale up, a lot of their IPAs remain top sellers. A lot of beers on that list come from brewers that have really respectable Lagers or other kinds of beer. You can't tell me Sierra Nevada makes their Torpedo IPA as a "crutch" because they don't know how to scale up.
 
2013-12-16 02:34:49 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Donnchadha: IPAs are the crutch of microbreweries who haven't figured out how to properly scale up production.

Hops masks all of your other mistakes. If you manage to screw that up, add even more hops and call it a "double IPA".

Even after microbrewers get better and scale up, a lot of their IPAs remain top sellers. A lot of beers on that list come from brewers that have really respectable Lagers or other kinds of beer. You can't tell me Sierra Nevada makes their Torpedo IPA as a "crutch" because they don't know how to scale up.


At this point, it's because a bunch of beer hipsters have forgotten what beer should taste like and think that beer needs to taste like hops, so it continues to sell. However, a new brewery will push an IPA out early because it's the easiest not to screw up.
 
2013-12-16 02:40:52 PM

Donnchadha: I'm just pointing out why there are so many of them these days.


Which is wrong. There are so many IPAs simply because they are the best selling, most popular style in the craft brew market.
 
2013-12-16 02:42:41 PM

Donnchadha: cr7pilot: It's a pretty good list. Not the order necessarily, but the beers on it. One that's missing it Cigar CIty's Jai Alai. Love that stuff. Bell's Two-Hearted is pretty awesome too.

IPAs in general are not my favorite, but there are some that display a really great balance of hops punch and actual malt backbone.

The Sierra Nevada Celebration, #9 on the list, is a really good hoppy/malty balance.


I do like Celebration. I had a 2012 bottle in my basement and got it out the other day to compare with 2013. The hops in the 2012 had held up surprisingly well.
 
2013-12-16 02:44:37 PM

Donnchadha: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Donnchadha: 

At this point, it's because a bunch of beer hipsters have forgotten what beer should taste like and think that beer needs to taste like hops, so it continues to sell. However, a new brewery will push an IPA out early because it's the easiest not to screw up.


IPAs are still pretty easy to screw up. I agree that being heavy-handed with the hops can mask some flaws in the malt bill, but consider all the terrible IPAs you've probably had. It's not as simple as just "add more hops."
 
2013-12-16 02:47:10 PM
Dogfish 60 at #23?
 
2013-12-16 02:54:13 PM

Donnchadha: However, a new brewery will push an IPA out early because it's the easiest not to screw up.


No...They will push out an IPA because they will likely fail as a business without one in production. And an IPA is not the easiest beer to brew. Stouts, porters, pale ales, etc are all easier (and cheaper) to brew than an IPA which needs near-constant additions of hops from wort to brite tank, all while avoiding oxidation and infection. And there is a lot of shiat hops won't mask.
 
2013-12-16 03:11:15 PM

Donnchadha: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Donnchadha: IPAs are the crutch of microbreweries who haven't figured out how to properly scale up production.

Hops masks all of your other mistakes. If you manage to screw that up, add even more hops and call it a "double IPA".

[i1042.photobucket.com image 625x434]

Love me some hoppy IPA.

I never said I didn't like hoppy beers (as long as they aren't the "Hoppiest-Hop-That-Ever-Hopped-A-Hop" Sextuple IPA), I'm just pointing out why there are so many of them these days.


Scalability might be one reason, but don't you think it could also be a trend based on the fact that people like hoppy IPAs? I mean, there can be many reasons for a trend; for instance, porter's origin is rooted in cost-savings. That doesn't mean that some people didn't set out to make good porters just to be a leading example of the category.

Anyway, I personally don't care why they exist. I'm just glad they do :-)
 
2013-12-16 03:16:50 PM
I hate to say it, but Dundee makes (or *made*) a pretty decent IPA.  It wasn't overly-harsh, and didn't have the hints of white grapefruit that a lot of the shiattier IPAs seem to have.

There was another one, too, but damned if I can remember the name of it...
 
2013-12-16 03:29:13 PM
I will continue to drink as much Heady Topper as I can get my hands on, no matter how low your stupid judges put it on your stupid list.

Although I agree with the Ballast Point Sculpin.  Dang that's good drinkin'.

And more beer in cans, please.  It's just better.  Yes, it is.
 
2013-12-16 03:41:32 PM

Donnchadha: IPAs are the crutch of microbreweries who haven't figured out how to properly scale up production.

Hops masks all of your other mistakes. If you manage to screw that up, add even more hops and call it a "double IPA".


It's sad that such a dumb Weeners in what will be an awesome thread.  It's fine if IPAs aren't your thing (depends on my mood for me), but touting such bullshiat has got to be indicative of a mental disorder.
 
2013-12-16 03:42:27 PM
If hops are what does it for you, enjoy! I'll stick with something darker.

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2013-12-16 03:42:30 PM
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2013-12-16 03:43:05 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Glad to see Bell's Two-Hearted place so high. It's my go-to IPA.


This. Two-Hearted Ale is fantastic.
 
2013-12-16 03:44:48 PM
A proper IPA:

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/likes me some Lagunitas, though
 
2013-12-16 03:45:00 PM
Whar Three Floyds Dreadnought Whar?!?!

/Don't really care for IPA's
//Rogue's Hazelnut Brown Nectar... mmmm...
 
2013-12-16 03:45:03 PM
90 minute is a lot better than 60 minute.

Sierra Nevada's Torpedo is their best beer.

No Flying Dog? Snake Dog IPA is pretty good.
 
2013-12-16 03:47:15 PM

Donnchadha: Hops masks all of your other mistakes.


It can.

However a GOOD IPA balances the hoppiness up front with maltiness in the back end.

Had a bottle of "Lunch" from the Maine Beer Company last night.  It's the perfect example of that concept.
 
2013-12-16 03:51:20 PM
 gonna guess they left out the three floyd's cause double IPA's don't count
 
2013-12-16 03:52:29 PM
Hoppy IPAs aren't just a trend -- it's a style of beer that's here to stay so long as there are plenty of hops available for production needs.  Now that I've tasted a good portion of the beers on that list (which also happened to lead to home-brewing), I'll never go back to watered-down beer again.  I'll take a strong 6.5 - 9.0 beer with a lot of hops over anything, any day (well, except for maybe a really good octoberfest or brown ale).  Not sure why the haters gotta hate, but hey, that usually leaves more IPA for me.

// Favorite hops:  Citra, Cascade, Centennial and Columbus
 
2013-12-16 03:54:42 PM
Shocked Stone only got 2 points. I think it is much better than Languintas which was up around 15.
 
2013-12-16 03:57:00 PM
 
2013-12-16 04:05:40 PM
Not one of Three Floyd's IPA's on list?  Nothing from Stone?


not a list.
 
2013-12-16 04:07:53 PM

Prevailing Wind: Not one of Three Floyd's IPA's on list?  Nothing from Stone?


not a list.


Stone IPA is on the extended list...though it should be.
 
2013-12-16 04:08:28 PM

Johnsnownw: Prevailing Wind: Not one of Three Floyd's IPA's on list?  Nothing from Stone?


not a list.

Stone IPA is on the extended list...though it should NOT be.

FTFM

 
2013-12-16 04:13:33 PM

Johnsnownw: Johnsnownw: Prevailing Wind: Not one of Three Floyd's IPA's on list?  Nothing from Stone?


not a list.

Stone IPA is on the extended list...though it should NOT be.

FTFM


My beer snob outrage is more for three Floyd's. Apocalypse cow, zombie dust, dreadnought, arctic panzer wolf...so...good.
 
2013-12-16 04:14:26 PM
Good list but I'm shocked that Heavy Seas - Loose Cannon isn't on it. Firestone Union Jack is one of my go to beers when I can't decide what to get.
 
2013-12-16 04:15:13 PM
They've got the wrong Deschutes IPAs in the extended list... Inversion much better than Freshies or Chainbreaker.

21st amendment Black IPA is very good.


List fails without Eel River's organic IPA.... get that on tap, if you can. It's smooth, balanced and deliciouso....
 
2013-12-16 04:18:47 PM
www.holidaywinecellar.com
 
2013-12-16 04:19:18 PM
How is Saga 44/45?! I really like that beer. It's a cheaper alternative to Surly Furious which is my all time favorite.
 
2013-12-16 04:19:48 PM
Yum. Love me some Surly Furious.

/also a bookmark.
 
2013-12-16 04:20:37 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Glad to see Bell's Two-Hearted place so high. It's my go-to IPA.



Bell's Two Hearted is not even the best IPA in Michigan, and probably not in the top 5. It's not bad though.

Bell's beers in general are really overrated. There's a ton of great beer in Michigan.
 
2013-12-16 04:20:52 PM

blast yer scuppers: Good list but I'm shocked that Heavy Seas - Loose Cannon isn't on it. Firestone Union Jack is one of my go to beers when I can't decide what to get.


Most of these IPAs are ubiquitous and completely indistinguishable from the next.    We just have to draw up arbitrary lines of quality, because that's how marketers have to trick you to consume when there's no real product scarcity.
 
2013-12-16 04:21:11 PM
Donnchadha:

At this point, it's because a bunch of beer hipsters have forgotten what beer should taste like and think that beer needs to taste like hops, so it continues to sell.

IPA's have been around since around 1829.
Farking hipsters.
 
2013-12-16 04:26:40 PM

Maud Dib: Donnchadha:

At this point, it's because a bunch of beer hipsters have forgotten what beer should taste like and think that beer needs to taste like hops, so it continues to sell.

IPA's have been around since around 1829.
Farking hipsters.


It's worth noting that English IPAs taste absolutely nothing like American IPAs.
 
2013-12-16 04:26:43 PM

Prevailing Wind: Johnsnownw: Johnsnownw: Prevailing Wind: Not one of Three Floyd's IPA's on list?  Nothing from Stone?


not a list.

Stone IPA is on the extended list...though it should NOT be.

FTFM

My beer snob outrage is more for three Floyd's. Apocalypse cow, zombie dust, dreadnought, arctic panzer wolf...so...good.


Zombie Dust isn't an IPA.
 
2013-12-16 04:30:51 PM
www.operatorchan.org
 
2013-12-16 04:32:59 PM

Johnsnownw: Prevailing Wind: Johnsnownw: Johnsnownw: Prevailing Wind: Not one of Three Floyd's IPA's on list?  Nothing from Stone?


not a list.

Stone IPA is on the extended list...though it should NOT be.

FTFM

My beer snob outrage is more for three Floyd's. Apocalypse cow, zombie dust, dreadnought, arctic panzer wolf...so...good.

Zombie Dust isn't an IPA.


APA. I'm not gonna dispute it with you because of a few motes of specific gravity, but for my own pallets I don't discriminate.

Some of the others are doubles and imperials too, but I don't see any snit to pick.
 
2013-12-16 04:35:14 PM
It's amazing how many people are putting words in my mouth.

At no point did I ever say that IPAs or hoppy beers are bad. I just said they're easy to do, which is why there are so many of them right now.

Any style of beer can be done well or done poorly, and the fact that a beer is hoppy (or not) doesn't mean anything as if it's good or bad.
 
2013-12-16 04:37:05 PM
I was all set to be pissy about Bear Republic Racer 5 not being on the list.

And then it was there!
 
2013-12-16 04:41:45 PM

Prevailing Wind: Johnsnownw: Prevailing Wind: Johnsnownw: Johnsnownw: Prevailing Wind: Not one of Three Floyd's IPA's on list?  Nothing from Stone?


not a list.

Stone IPA is on the extended list...though it should NOT be.

FTFM

My beer snob outrage is more for three Floyd's. Apocalypse cow, zombie dust, dreadnought, arctic panzer wolf...so...good.

Zombie Dust isn't an IPA.

APA. I'm not gonna dispute it with you because of a few motes of specific gravity, but for my own pallets I don't discriminate.

Some of the others are doubles and imperials too, but I don't see any snit to pick.


I didn't look as closely as I should have at the list. Yeah, Heady Topper being on there is a head scratcher...I mean if Heady is on the list, surely Sucks, Hopslam, and Abrasive should be in contention.
 
2013-12-16 05:16:48 PM

ricewater_stool:

It's worth noting that English IPAs taste absolutely nothing like American IPAs.




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\knows the difference between Amarillo and East Kent Golding
 
2013-12-16 05:33:34 PM
Glad to see Torpedo at 8, though list loses some cred with Lagunitas even on there (seriously, it's sub-par).

Living in the pacific northwest, I have access anytime to literally hundreds of different microbrews, which is awesome. Unfortunately I'm usually so caught up in all the local stuff I forget about brews from the rest of the country.
 
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