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(Showbiz 411)   Not News: Michael Moore says something about 9/11. Also Not News: Rupert Murdoch says something about 9/11. Fark: Rupert and Michael are in agreement   (showbiz411.com) divider line 42
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2013-12-16 11:03:14 AM
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2013-12-16 11:13:40 AM
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2013-12-16 11:18:02 AM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: [i.imgur.com image 587x223]


Opps, linked to the wrong tweet.


cloudfront.mediamatters.org
 
2013-12-16 11:36:37 AM
This isn't the time to be discussing celebrity opinion control.
 
2013-12-16 11:37:01 AM
Get over it?
 
2013-12-16 11:43:31 AM
Conservative media exists to shake people's faith in government, even if that means throwing one of their own under the bus.
 
2013-12-16 11:43:48 AM
In before Michael Moore is fat therefore anything he says is invalid and Sarah Palin is automatically president.
 
2013-12-16 11:53:45 AM

Wendy's Chili: Conservative media exists to shake people's faith in government, even if that means throwing one of their own under the bus.


Our faith in government needs shaking?
 
2013-12-16 11:54:29 AM

relaxitsjustme: In before Michael Moore is fat therefore anything he says is invalid and Sarah Palin is automatically president.


President Tits McGee? Give the ole GOP huzzah!
 
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2013-12-16 11:55:15 AM
What did he say, "It happened in September"?
 
2013-12-16 11:55:20 AM
It's the healing of America. First a budget passes Congress and now this!

www.masspoliticsprofs.com
 
2013-12-16 11:55:41 AM

limboslam: Wendy's Chili: Conservative media exists to shake people's faith in government, even if that means throwing one of their own under the bus.

Our faith in government needs shaking?


You know: like jello. A little nudge'll do it.
 
2013-12-16 12:08:09 PM
I always wondered if the government secretly encouraged the "Bush did it with dynamite!" crazy theory to get the heat off Saudi theories.
 
2013-12-16 12:12:59 PM
Yeah, this is a really big deal.
*yawn
 
2013-12-16 12:14:44 PM
Bush should have thrown Osama's family in fail and held them until Osama gave himself up, instead of letting them leave the country.  Everyone knows they are all to blame, not just one guy.
 
2013-12-16 12:15:34 PM

limboslam: Wendy's Chili: Conservative media exists to shake people's faith in government, even if that means throwing one of their own under the bus.

Our faith in government needs shaking?


When was the last time anyone had any faith in it anyways?
 
2013-12-16 12:24:25 PM
Forgetting you control a massive propaganda machine steamrolling the opposite agenda - strong indicator for the onset of senility
 
2013-12-16 12:34:38 PM

GORDON: Bush should have thrown Osama's family in fail and held them until Osama gave himself up, instead of letting them leave the country.  Everyone knows they are all to blame, not just one guy.


Gasp! But that would be illegal.  America would never arrest anyone without due process!
 
2013-12-16 12:38:32 PM

GORDON: Bush should have thrown Osama's family in fail and held them until Osama gave himself up, instead of letting them leave the country.  Everyone knows they are all to blame, not just one guy.


Not sure if serious...
 
2013-12-16 12:39:30 PM
Murdoch must have terminal cancer.
 
2013-12-16 12:44:17 PM
Many of the victims died because a young engineer was hired to design the building. His designs included lightweight stairwells that weren't protected by hardened walls.

I think some of them died from heart attacks after seeing Israeli spies dancing in a parking lot in Jersey.

But the Saudis were protected by Bush. Not just in this country, too. I'm sure the Saudis managed to get OBL out of Afghanistan and into Pakistan by Bush moving volunteers into the Iraq war instead of into Afghanistan.
 
2013-12-16 12:46:02 PM
So, let me pose this question: What was the motive for the Saudi government to sponsor an attack on the US? To get us to attack someone else? Did they have a grudge of that magnitude against the Taliban?
 
2013-12-16 12:48:34 PM
The Saudi royal family sponsored the attacks. This was coordinated with Bush and others to justify a war in Iraq. That war gave certain companies access to Iraq's oil, drive up prices for domestic oil (both US and Saudi), and gave certain other companies billions in no bid contracts.

It enriched the rich, gave power to the authoritarians, and mainly only cost the lives of poor soldiers and peasant Iraqis.

Win-win.
 
2013-12-16 01:02:07 PM
What did Rudy Guliani have to say, though?
 
2013-12-16 01:10:36 PM

BMFPitt: What did Rudy Guliani have to say, though?


"Nine Eleven!"
 
2013-12-16 01:11:25 PM

GORDON: Bush should have thrown Osama's family in fail and held them until Osama gave himself up, instead of letting them leave the country.  Everyone knows they are all to blame, not just one guy.


Or, ya know, at least ask them a few questions.
 
2013-12-16 01:14:25 PM
So Rupert, you're telling us that the guy you personally installed as president is a traitor?
 
2013-12-16 01:22:03 PM
The best thing we could have done after 9/11 is push for energy independence. Solar, wind, safe nuclear, geothermal, improved battery tech, and giant hamster wheels. You hit the Saudis right in the pocketbook and that radical branch of Islam stops getting swept under the rug.
 
2013-12-16 01:23:05 PM

lilbjorn: So Rupert, you're telling us that the guy you personally installed as president is a traitor?


He failed to read the label.
 
2013-12-16 01:31:09 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Many of the victims died because a young engineer was hired to design the building. His designs included lightweight stairwells that weren't protected by hardened walls.

I think some of them died from heart attacks after seeing Israeli spies dancing in a parking lot in Jersey.

But the Saudis were protected by Bush. Not just in this country, too. I'm sure the Saudis managed to get OBL out of Afghanistan and into Pakistan by Bush moving volunteers into the Iraq war instead of into Afghanistan.


Actually, OBL likely escaped Afghanistan into Pakistan right after Tora Bora. They farked up Tora Bora, but he was in Pakistan quickly after that. Leading theory is that he was in a cave at Tora Bora, then injured in a bombing, and escaped with help from sympathetic locals into Pakistan, about a year before Iraq war started.

And really, it should be damn obvious why the Bin Ladens were escorted out of the country right after 9/11. All it takes is one pissed off redneck to think they actually got along with Osama (even though most of them want(ed) nothing to do with him for many years before 9/11)
 
2013-12-16 01:31:47 PM

dukeblue219: So, let me pose this question: What was the motive for the Saudi government to sponsor an attack on the US? To get us to attack someone else? Did they have a grudge of that magnitude against the Taliban?


my guess is that there was A LOT of folks in their government who were involved. So not necessarily backed by the State of Saudi Arabia but enough connected people involved in helping the terrorists who were highly connected that it was a HUGE black mark for the Saudis. Given the Bush family involvement with the Bin Ladens and their long long long history of ties to Saudi Arabia they simply redacted the most damning aspects of this information. This was done to preserve the "relationship" with Saudi Arabia so the American People weren't demanding the Kins head on a pike.

The Saudi's didn't want a Shia run government in Iraq that is for sure.

So not necessarily a state motivation but a bunch of assholes in their inner circle who hate the US. Saudi Arabia is the biggest exporter of Whabbism and the we know almost off of these guys were Saudis and had help.
 
2013-12-16 01:41:49 PM

machoprogrammer: TheShavingofOccam123: Many of the victims died because a young engineer was hired to design the building. His designs included lightweight stairwells that weren't protected by hardened walls.

I think some of them died from heart attacks after seeing Israeli spies dancing in a parking lot in Jersey.

But the Saudis were protected by Bush. Not just in this country, too. I'm sure the Saudis managed to get OBL out of Afghanistan and into Pakistan by Bush moving volunteers into the Iraq war instead of into Afghanistan.

Actually, OBL likely escaped Afghanistan into Pakistan right after Tora Bora. They farked up Tora Bora, but he was in Pakistan quickly after that. Leading theory is that he was in a cave at Tora Bora, then injured in a bombing, and escaped with help from sympathetic locals into Pakistan, about a year before Iraq war started.

And really, it should be damn obvious why the Bin Ladens were escorted out of the country right after 9/11. All it takes is one pissed off redneck to think they actually got along with Osama (even though most of them want(ed) nothing to do with him for many years before 9/11)


Precisely. Bin Laden was a bad name to have on 9/12. As for the Saudis, we have a duty to keep foreign diplomats safe. Sometimes that means getting them out if things are looking bad
 
2013-12-16 01:45:35 PM

Wendy's Chili: Conservative media exists to shake people's faith in government


Well they're doing a pretty bad job of it compared to Congress and the President(s).
 
2013-12-16 01:45:39 PM
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2013-12-16 01:54:01 PM

kindms: So not necessarily a state motivation but a bunch of assholes in their inner circle who hate the US. Saudi Arabia is the biggest exporter of Whabbism and the we know almost off of these guys were Saudis and had help.


Got it... that's a reasonable explanation. Important Saudi's helped with the attacks, and the Saudi government / Bush admin helped cover up that part of it. Seems plausible enough if the facts of this story are correct.
 
2013-12-16 02:05:38 PM

dukeblue219: kindms: So not necessarily a state motivation but a bunch of assholes in their inner circle who hate the US. Saudi Arabia is the biggest exporter of Whabbism and the we know almost off of these guys were Saudis and had help.

Got it... that's a reasonable explanation. Important Saudi's helped with the attacks, and the Saudi government / Bush admin helped cover up that part of it. Seems plausible enough if the facts of this story are correct.


There is little doubt that the Saudis financed Whabbism, but getting the Bin Ladens and other top Saudis out of the country had little to do with covering it up and more to do with keeping them safe from vigilante rednecks.
 
2013-12-16 02:28:27 PM

machoprogrammer: Bin Ladens and other top Saudis out of the country had little to do with covering it up and more to do with keeping them safe from vigilante rednecks.


Keep telling yourself that. It helps to smugly huff under your breath while rolling your eyes when you do it.
 
2013-12-16 02:32:51 PM

Private_Citizen: The Saudi royal family sponsored the attacks. This was coordinated with Bush and others to justify a war in Iraq. That war gave certain companies access to Iraq's oil, drive up prices for domestic oil (both US and Saudi), and gave certain other companies billions in no bid contracts.

It enriched the rich, gave power to the authoritarians, and mainly only cost the lives of poor soldiers and peasant Iraqis.

Win-win.


I wish that wasn't a plausible scenario.
 
2013-12-16 03:02:31 PM
But Bush paints  nice awkward paintings that  painfully show his guilt reflect his true mental age, so he's off the hook, right?
 
2013-12-16 09:06:45 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Many of the victims died because a young engineer was hired to design the building. His designs included lightweight stairwells that weren't protected by hardened walls.jet airliners traveling at speeds in excess of 400 or 500 MPH hit them while still on relatively full tanks of fuel.


FTFY.  Get your head out of your ass and realize the physics involved.
 
2013-12-17 01:02:22 AM
The Carlyle Group did make a lot of money off of military contracts once the pissed off Eagle reacted...
 
2013-12-17 02:50:24 AM

paradroid: I always wondered if the government secretly encouraged the "Bush did it with dynamite!" crazy theory to get the heat off Saudi theories.


I don't know but the whack job conspiracy nuts did a disservice by focused on the wrong theories which discredited anybody who did ask real questions like... Why did John Ashcroft quit flying commercial flights in July? Why did the FBI not follow up on reports coming from their field offices about Arabs wanting to learn how to fly but not take off and landings? Reports of Arabs flying 'dry runs'? Why was there no follow up on the Presidential briefing titled Bin Laden determined to strike within the United States? In the aftermath why did Bush only appear before the 9/11 commission for an hour, only with Cheney present and completely off the record?

Lots of legitimate questions that got drowned out by idiots screaming about cruise missiles and inside jobs.
 
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