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(The Atlantic)   "If a drone strike hit an American wedding, we would ground the fleet"   (theatlantic.com) divider line 27
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2013-12-16 09:10:19 AM  
10 votes:

PC LOAD LETTER: Weaver95: Depends on who got blown up. If we just wasted a bunch of hillbilly red necks or black people then odds are nobody would give a damn. If a rich, cute white girl had her wedding nuked from orbit tho, you can bet the country would be outraged.

Wrong, with black people, Fox would blame them for acting suspicious and then post allegations of gang membership and drug use to defame them and imply they deserved it.


Those drones were standing their sky.
2013-12-16 09:00:23 AM  
4 votes:
You never mix terror training camps with residential. That's just poor zoning, almost as bad as putting a strip club next to a church. Good zoning saves lives, Yemen.
2013-12-16 09:04:34 AM  
3 votes:
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No, I think we'd throw a f*cking parade.
2013-12-16 10:18:56 AM  
2 votes:

Insaniteus: So, this is where people rage about drones again, despite them dramatically reducing civilian casualties over jet airstrikes, ground troops, and all other "conventional" warfare tactics.  W and Rumsfeld's "Light and Fast" military strategy killed double-digit civilians every single day of its use, and they often blew up entire apartment buildings to hit one guy.


Dropping the bombs at all is just a fact of life. Can't be helped. We're America and America drops bombs. Its what's done.
2013-12-16 10:11:47 AM  
2 votes:

Insaniteus: W and Rumsfeld's "Light and Fast" military strategy killed double-digit civilians every single day of its use, and they often blew up entire apartment buildings to hit one guy


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Well if you assholes hadn't foiled Dr. Jerome Hathaway's 5 megawatt laser back in the 80's we'd have a much more efficient way of taking out the bad guys, wouldn't we?

Q.E.D. Libulardos.

Q.E.D.
2013-12-16 10:03:03 AM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: Depends on who got blown up. If we just wasted a bunch of hillbilly red necks or black people then odds are nobody would give a damn. If a rich, cute white girl had her wedding nuked from orbit tho, you can bet the country would be outraged.


Are you kidding? That would be the best episode of "Bridezilla" ever!
2013-12-16 11:29:20 AM  
1 votes:

bigsteve3OOO: jso2897: bigsteve3OOO: Obama could stop drone attacks, he does not want to.  He increased them.  Right or wrong he is responsible for them.  Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

Any President  in my lifetime since Truman could have stopped policies that kill and injure innocent civilians. None have.
I'm curious as to what has made you come to perceive this at this point in time.

I will continue to point out that Obama is in charge and responsible for things that liberals hate.  They seem incapable of making that connection without my help.


Well, fine, but having achieved the education of liberals, perhaps we could move on to the issue of what is so fundamentally wrong with our foreign policy. Neither Obama nor any other President should get a pass for continuing these bad policies. But Obama is a lame duck no one will ever have another chance to vote against, and in 2017 he'll be replaced by some other guy (or gal) who will enact some version of the exact same policies - unless somebody (like us) demands that something change.
From the end of WWII to today, we have crafted a foreign policy that consists of interfering in the affairs of other nations in order to achieve our own policy ends. That has brought some good things to be (arguably, anyway), but it has had a terrible cost, and there will also be a point of sharply diminishing returns - one I think we are reaching now.
More paranoia, more expense, more risk - and less real; security seems to be what we're actually getting.
Nobody  (with any brains) expected Obama to change this - he's a Reagan Democrat, FFS.
If we want our foreign policy to change we need to elect some VERY different leaders.
2013-12-16 11:27:54 AM  
1 votes:
Look, some of us really hate weddings, okay? DON'T JUDGE ME!
2013-12-16 10:30:46 AM  
1 votes:

Target Builder: I think the point was more that if another country did this to people at an American wedding (or anywhere in America for that matter)


theruleoffreedom.files.wordpress.com

Of course. Can you imagine how badly Americans would lose their shiat if Iran or China had military bases in Canada or Mexico? This is what progressives were talking about for decades during the Cold War. You couldn't expect the U.S. to put nuclear missiles in Europe and Turkey and then lose your shiat when the Soviets put missiles in Cuba. But that's how Americans roll. They expect to exercise their strategic superiority granted to them by two huge-ass Oceans on either side of them.

/American
2013-12-16 10:14:17 AM  
1 votes:

ikanreed: So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.


...RAND PAUL
2013-12-16 10:10:13 AM  
1 votes:

Nabb1: A Cave Geek: ikanreed: So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.

"Butt...butbutbutbutbut...It's patriotic when WE do it!!!!!"

/facepalm in the GOP's general direction.

So we can mark you guys down as approving of this sort of thing?


Not at all, just not willing to tolerate any more hypocritical herp-a-doo from hypocritical republicans today.  Bad mood.  Sorry.
2013-12-16 10:06:51 AM  
1 votes:

The Numbers: When you see a story like this on fark, it's really quite amusing to watch just how quickly the conversation will be shifted to the much more comfortable subject of how bad the republicans are.


I personally would have expected more from the 'loyal opposition' myself, but Obamaghazigatecareghazi seems to still preoccupy them.
2013-12-16 10:02:45 AM  
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: There are an awful lot of "wedding parties" which conveniently contain a large gathering of known terrorists.


5 of the 17 people killed were suspected of ties to Al-Qaeda. Even if you're really gun ho about killing terrorists "Almost a third of the people we killed were bad guys" is ridiculous.
2013-12-16 09:53:28 AM  
1 votes:
But the drone attack was worth it, see.
They killed five people "suspected" of "involvement" with al Qaeda, and in the process convinced a few dozen more to either join al Qaeda or their support network real soon now, if they haven't already.

If the goal is to never run out of sworn enemies, that was ordinance well spent.
2013-12-16 09:51:25 AM  
1 votes:

LasersHurt: Serious question: is there not a culture in the area of Wedding convoys where they fire weapons out the windows, etc? This could be confusing. Not an excuse or anything, but I'm guessing we're not looking at a limo with cans on the back.

Irving Maimway: DammitIForgotMyLogin: [i.imgur.com image 720x540]

Wow, he actually said that. I don't think the FDA has approved that much irony for consumption in a single day.

It's a little bit different when the country in question specifically allows the strikes.


One night while I was on patrol in Iraq we kept seeing tracers fly through the air. So we drove all over south eastern Baghdad trying to find the shooting. Eventually it came over the radio that the national soccer team had won a match and it was celebratory fire.
2013-12-16 09:47:05 AM  
1 votes:
If they were males over the age of 15, as far as the Obama administration is concerned, they were combatants.
2013-12-16 09:46:36 AM  
1 votes:
Yes, but this was in Yemen so we really don't give a fark.
2013-12-16 09:44:33 AM  
1 votes:

ikanreed: So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.


"Butt...butbutbutbutbut...It's patriotic when WE do it!!!!!"

/facepalm in the GOP's general direction.
2013-12-16 09:43:51 AM  
1 votes:
Serious question: is there not a culture in the area of Wedding convoys where they fire weapons out the windows, etc? This could be confusing. Not an excuse or anything, but I'm guessing we're not looking at a limo with cans on the back.

Irving Maimway: DammitIForgotMyLogin: [i.imgur.com image 720x540]

Wow, he actually said that. I don't think the FDA has approved that much irony for consumption in a single day.


It's a little bit different when the country in question specifically allows the strikes.
2013-12-16 09:42:12 AM  
1 votes:
IIRC, none of those deaths were non-combatants according to the US's definition of non-combatant. Therefore, there is no reason for outrage here.
2013-12-16 09:41:46 AM  
1 votes:
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I'm sure some of the people in the above picture are unmarried/about to be divorced (so you know another cash grab wedding is on the way), so... article is full of crap.
2013-12-16 09:40:16 AM  
1 votes:
So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.
2013-12-16 09:35:33 AM  
1 votes:

DammitIForgotMyLogin: [i.imgur.com image 720x540]


Wow, he actually said that. I don't think the FDA has approved that much irony for consumption in a single day.
2013-12-16 09:35:22 AM  
1 votes:

enry: Good thing we have a congress that's able to provide effective oversight



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2013-12-16 09:05:28 AM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Depends on who got blown up. If we just wasted a bunch of hillbilly red necks or black people then odds are nobody would give a damn. If a rich, cute white girl had her wedding nuked from orbit tho, you can bet the country would be outraged.


Wrong, with black people, Fox would blame them for acting suspicious and then post allegations of gang membership and drug use to defame them and imply they deserved it.
2013-12-16 08:30:11 AM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-12-16 08:28:19 AM  
1 votes:
Good thing we have a congress that's able to provide effective oversight and...what? Benghazi again? Ok, ok, I'm sure they'll get right on it....really? Trying to repeal Obamacare? Goddammitsomuch.
 
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