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2013-12-16 08:23:23 AM  
Depends on who got blown up. If we just wasted a bunch of hillbilly red necks or black people then odds are nobody would give a damn. If a rich, cute white girl had her wedding nuked from orbit tho, you can bet the country would be outraged.
 
2013-12-16 08:28:19 AM  
Good thing we have a congress that's able to provide effective oversight and...what? Benghazi again? Ok, ok, I'm sure they'll get right on it....really? Trying to repeal Obamacare? Goddammitsomuch.
 
2013-12-16 08:30:11 AM  
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2013-12-16 09:00:23 AM  
You never mix terror training camps with residential. That's just poor zoning, almost as bad as putting a strip club next to a church. Good zoning saves lives, Yemen.
 
2013-12-16 09:04:34 AM  
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No, I think we'd throw a f*cking parade.
 
2013-12-16 09:05:28 AM  

Weaver95: Depends on who got blown up. If we just wasted a bunch of hillbilly red necks or black people then odds are nobody would give a damn. If a rich, cute white girl had her wedding nuked from orbit tho, you can bet the country would be outraged.


Wrong, with black people, Fox would blame them for acting suspicious and then post allegations of gang membership and drug use to defame them and imply they deserved it.
 
2013-12-16 09:10:19 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Weaver95: Depends on who got blown up. If we just wasted a bunch of hillbilly red necks or black people then odds are nobody would give a damn. If a rich, cute white girl had her wedding nuked from orbit tho, you can bet the country would be outraged.

Wrong, with black people, Fox would blame them for acting suspicious and then post allegations of gang membership and drug use to defame them and imply they deserved it.


Those drones were standing their sky.
 
2013-12-16 09:35:22 AM  

enry: Good thing we have a congress that's able to provide effective oversight



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2013-12-16 09:35:33 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: [i.imgur.com image 720x540]


Wow, he actually said that. I don't think the FDA has approved that much irony for consumption in a single day.
 
2013-12-16 09:40:16 AM  
So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.
 
2013-12-16 09:41:46 AM  
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I'm sure some of the people in the above picture are unmarried/about to be divorced (so you know another cash grab wedding is on the way), so... article is full of crap.
 
2013-12-16 09:42:12 AM  
IIRC, none of those deaths were non-combatants according to the US's definition of non-combatant. Therefore, there is no reason for outrage here.
 
2013-12-16 09:43:51 AM  
Serious question: is there not a culture in the area of Wedding convoys where they fire weapons out the windows, etc? This could be confusing. Not an excuse or anything, but I'm guessing we're not looking at a limo with cans on the back.

Irving Maimway: DammitIForgotMyLogin: [i.imgur.com image 720x540]

Wow, he actually said that. I don't think the FDA has approved that much irony for consumption in a single day.


It's a little bit different when the country in question specifically allows the strikes.
 
2013-12-16 09:44:27 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: [i.imgur.com image 720x540]


He did say from outside its borders.  Drones tend to be in the country's borders
 
2013-12-16 09:44:33 AM  

ikanreed: So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.


"Butt...butbutbutbutbut...It's patriotic when WE do it!!!!!"

/facepalm in the GOP's general direction.
 
2013-12-16 09:46:36 AM  
Yes, but this was in Yemen so we really don't give a fark.
 
2013-12-16 09:47:05 AM  
If they were males over the age of 15, as far as the Obama administration is concerned, they were combatants.
 
2013-12-16 09:51:25 AM  

LasersHurt: Serious question: is there not a culture in the area of Wedding convoys where they fire weapons out the windows, etc? This could be confusing. Not an excuse or anything, but I'm guessing we're not looking at a limo with cans on the back.

Irving Maimway: DammitIForgotMyLogin: [i.imgur.com image 720x540]

Wow, he actually said that. I don't think the FDA has approved that much irony for consumption in a single day.

It's a little bit different when the country in question specifically allows the strikes.


One night while I was on patrol in Iraq we kept seeing tracers fly through the air. So we drove all over south eastern Baghdad trying to find the shooting. Eventually it came over the radio that the national soccer team had won a match and it was celebratory fire.
 
2013-12-16 09:52:43 AM  
When you see a story like this on fark, it's really quite amusing to watch just how quickly the conversation will be shifted to the much more comfortable subject of how bad the republicans are.

This thread was done in just 2, with several other efforts following soon thereafter. Keep up the good work, shills.
 
2013-12-16 09:53:28 AM  
But the drone attack was worth it, see.
They killed five people "suspected" of "involvement" with al Qaeda, and in the process convinced a few dozen more to either join al Qaeda or their support network real soon now, if they haven't already.

If the goal is to never run out of sworn enemies, that was ordinance well spent.
 
2013-12-16 09:53:54 AM  

The Numbers: When you see a story like this on fark, it's really quite amusing to watch just how quickly the conversation will be shifted to the much more comfortable subject of how bad the republicans are.

This thread was done in just 2, with several other efforts following soon thereafter. Keep up the good work, shills.


Nothing mentions republicans until the 10th post.
 
2013-12-16 09:54:08 AM  
There are an awful lot of "wedding parties" which conveniently contain a large gathering of known terrorists.
 
2013-12-16 09:57:59 AM  

A Cave Geek: ikanreed: So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.

"Butt...butbutbutbutbut...It's patriotic when WE do it!!!!!"

/facepalm in the GOP's general direction.


So we can mark you guys down as approving of this sort of thing?
 
2013-12-16 09:59:37 AM  

LasersHurt: The Numbers: When you see a story like this on fark, it's really quite amusing to watch just how quickly the conversation will be shifted to the much more comfortable subject of how bad the republicans are.

This thread was done in just 2, with several other efforts following soon thereafter. Keep up the good work, shills.

Nothing mentions republicans until the 10th post.


I'm certainly impressed by the level of wilful ignorance required for that remark. Many Democrats campaigned for the repeal of Obamacare, have they?
 
2013-12-16 10:00:04 AM  

The Numbers: When you see a story like this on fark, it's really quite amusing to watch just how quickly the conversation will be shifted to the much more comfortable subject of how bad the republicans are.

This thread was done in just 2, with several other efforts following soon thereafter. Keep up the good work, shills.


And I think more stones are being thrown at the President than the GOP. Nice try to play the victim card though.
 
2013-12-16 10:01:53 AM  
FTFA: Can you imagine the wall-to-wall press coverage, the outrage, and the empathy for the victims that would follow if an American wedding were attacked in this fashion? Or how you'd feel about a foreign power that attacked your wedding in this fashion?

Except that 1) Yemenis don't vote in U.S. Presidential elections, and 2) if anyone cared about blowing up innocent brown people we wouldn't have recently invaded and overthrown Iraq in the first place. So that ship has sailed a long-ass time ago.
 
2013-12-16 10:02:45 AM  

Lost Thought 00: There are an awful lot of "wedding parties" which conveniently contain a large gathering of known terrorists.


5 of the 17 people killed were suspected of ties to Al-Qaeda. Even if you're really gun ho about killing terrorists "Almost a third of the people we killed were bad guys" is ridiculous.
 
2013-12-16 10:02:52 AM  

The Numbers: LasersHurt: The Numbers: When you see a story like this on fark, it's really quite amusing to watch just how quickly the conversation will be shifted to the much more comfortable subject of how bad the republicans are.

This thread was done in just 2, with several other efforts following soon thereafter. Keep up the good work, shills.

Nothing mentions republicans until the 10th post.

I'm certainly impressed by the level of wilful ignorance required for that remark. Many Democrats campaigned for the repeal of Obamacare, have they?


The post was about how Congress cannot provide oversight because they're shallow assholes. Just because that happens to be largely the whelhouse of Republicans, it's off-limits? I mean the post was ABOUT drone oversight, it sounds pretty on-topic to me.

There was an obvious deflecting post  later on; why it's important to you to glom onto the second one is beyond me.
 
2013-12-16 10:03:03 AM  

Weaver95: Depends on who got blown up. If we just wasted a bunch of hillbilly red necks or black people then odds are nobody would give a damn. If a rich, cute white girl had her wedding nuked from orbit tho, you can bet the country would be outraged.


Are you kidding? That would be the best episode of "Bridezilla" ever!
 
2013-12-16 10:03:13 AM  

Nabb1: A Cave Geek: ikanreed: So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.

"Butt...butbutbutbutbut...It's patriotic when WE do it!!!!!"

/facepalm in the GOP's general direction.

So we can mark you guys down as approving of this sort of thing?


Did you read my post?  Of course I don't approve, but I'm not likely to consider the attacks against something, by someone whose solution to it would be to amp it up.  There's a better approach to the drone/terrorism problem from the left, but at the national level, we have all of 2 or 3 people who are genuinely liberal.
 
2013-12-16 10:05:31 AM  
So, this is where people rage about drones again, despite them dramatically reducing civilian casualties over jet airstrikes, ground troops, and all other "conventional" warfare tactics.  W and Rumsfeld's "Light and Fast" military strategy killed double-digit civilians every single day of its use, and they often blew up entire apartment buildings to hit one guy.
 
2013-12-16 10:06:51 AM  

The Numbers: When you see a story like this on fark, it's really quite amusing to watch just how quickly the conversation will be shifted to the much more comfortable subject of how bad the republicans are.


I personally would have expected more from the 'loyal opposition' myself, but Obamaghazigatecareghazi seems to still preoccupy them.
 
2013-12-16 10:09:44 AM  
If we gave small pox blankets to Americans, if we firebombed Cleveland, if we nuked San Fransisco, if we sent poison spray tan to John Boehner . . . I mean shiat now.  The list of things we've done is pretty damned inexhaustible
 
2013-12-16 10:10:13 AM  

Nabb1: A Cave Geek: ikanreed: So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.

"Butt...butbutbutbutbut...It's patriotic when WE do it!!!!!"

/facepalm in the GOP's general direction.

So we can mark you guys down as approving of this sort of thing?


Not at all, just not willing to tolerate any more hypocritical herp-a-doo from hypocritical republicans today.  Bad mood.  Sorry.
 
2013-12-16 10:11:21 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: [i.imgur.com image 720x540]


Technically, our drones' missiles are launched from  inside those countries' borders.
 
2013-12-16 10:11:47 AM  

Insaniteus: W and Rumsfeld's "Light and Fast" military strategy killed double-digit civilians every single day of its use, and they often blew up entire apartment buildings to hit one guy


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Well if you assholes hadn't foiled Dr. Jerome Hathaway's 5 megawatt laser back in the 80's we'd have a much more efficient way of taking out the bad guys, wouldn't we?

Q.E.D. Libulardos.

Q.E.D.
 
2013-12-16 10:14:17 AM  

ikanreed: So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.


...RAND PAUL
 
2013-12-16 10:18:39 AM  

Lost Thought 00: There are an awful lot of "wedding parties" which conveniently contain a large gathering of known terrorists.


Think of it as the 50s, your in Chicago and these terrorist are Mob Gangsters.
 
2013-12-16 10:18:56 AM  

Insaniteus: So, this is where people rage about drones again, despite them dramatically reducing civilian casualties over jet airstrikes, ground troops, and all other "conventional" warfare tactics.  W and Rumsfeld's "Light and Fast" military strategy killed double-digit civilians every single day of its use, and they often blew up entire apartment buildings to hit one guy.


Dropping the bombs at all is just a fact of life. Can't be helped. We're America and America drops bombs. Its what's done.
 
2013-12-16 10:20:41 AM  

Somacandra: FTFA: Can you imagine the wall-to-wall press coverage, the outrage, and the empathy for the victims that would follow if an American wedding were attacked in this fashion? Or how you'd feel about a foreign power that attacked your wedding in this fashion?

Except that 1) Yemenis don't vote in U.S. Presidential elections, and 2) if anyone cared about blowing up innocent brown people we wouldn't have recently invaded and overthrown Iraq in the first place. So that ship has sailed a long-ass time ago.


I think the point was more that if another country did this to people at an American wedding (or anywhere in America for that matter) even on the justification that the target was an enemy of their nation who was actively engaged in military plots to cause their nation harm that people in the US would be pretty farking upset and demand some sort of retaliation.
 
2013-12-16 10:22:50 AM  

LasersHurt: The Numbers: LasersHurt: The Numbers: When you see a story like this on fark, it's really quite amusing to watch just how quickly the conversation will be shifted to the much more comfortable subject of how bad the republicans are.

This thread was done in just 2, with several other efforts following soon thereafter. Keep up the good work, shills.

Nothing mentions republicans until the 10th post.

I'm certainly impressed by the level of wilful ignorance required for that remark. Many Democrats campaigned for the repeal of Obamacare, have they?

The post was about how Congress cannot provide oversight because they're shallow assholes. Just because that happens to be largely the whelhouse of Republicans, it's off-limits? I mean the post was ABOUT drone oversight, it sounds pretty on-topic to me.


It's a legitimate area for criticism sure, but basic common sense would tell you that when something farked up happens, the first port of call for scrutiny should be the people who actually did it. Immediately criticizing the guys doing the oversight instead smacks of deflecting attention to a more comfortable target.

There was an obvious deflecting post  later on; why it's important to you to glom onto the second one is beyond me.

This is the Politics tab, so there's always a rush of partisan 'deflection' posts. I'm simply amused by the speed at which it happens sometimes.
 
2013-12-16 10:22:54 AM  

A Cave Geek: Nabb1: A Cave Geek: ikanreed: So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.

"Butt...butbutbutbutbut...It's patriotic when WE do it!!!!!"

/facepalm in the GOP's general direction.

So we can mark you guys down as approving of this sort of thing?

Not at all, just not willing to tolerate any more hypocritical herp-a-doo from hypocritical republicans today.  Bad mood.  Sorry.


Also, everyone should know that this was Obama's declared foreign policy in 2008, when he was running for president.  It was just less shiatty than McCain literally engaged in joyous song about bombing Iran.
 
2013-12-16 10:26:00 AM  
I have no doubt there'd be an outcry to ground them... wouldn't happen though.  Gotta go to war against terrorism, after all.  Blink for a second and somewhere, someone will use terrorism.  It would just be brave Americans sacrificing their lives so that terrorism can be stopped.
 
2013-12-16 10:30:44 AM  

Irving Maimway: The Numbers: When you see a story like this on fark, it's really quite amusing to watch just how quickly the conversation will be shifted to the much more comfortable subject of how bad the republicans are.

This thread was done in just 2, with several other efforts following soon thereafter. Keep up the good work, shills.

And I think more stones are being thrown at the President than the GOP.


Well, we can both watch this thread and see if that bears out, can't we?

Nice try to play the victim card though.

No victim card here. I've no love for the GOP and they've no credibility on this issue (or pretty much anywhere else for that matter).
 
2013-12-16 10:30:46 AM  

Target Builder: I think the point was more that if another country did this to people at an American wedding (or anywhere in America for that matter)


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Of course. Can you imagine how badly Americans would lose their shiat if Iran or China had military bases in Canada or Mexico? This is what progressives were talking about for decades during the Cold War. You couldn't expect the U.S. to put nuclear missiles in Europe and Turkey and then lose your shiat when the Soviets put missiles in Cuba. But that's how Americans roll. They expect to exercise their strategic superiority granted to them by two huge-ass Oceans on either side of them.

/American
 
2013-12-16 10:30:55 AM  

Weaver95: Depends on who got blown up. If we just wasted a bunch of hillbilly red necks or black people then odds are nobody would give a damn. If a rich, cute white girl had her wedding nuked from orbit tho, you can bet the country would be outraged.


Just ask the families from Ruby Ridge or Waco TX. They were written off as loons who deserved to die.
 
2013-12-16 10:34:41 AM  

ikanreed: Also, everyone should know that this was Obama's declared foreign policy in 2008, when he was running for president.  It was just less shiatty than McCain literally engaged in joyous song about bombing Iran.

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A lot of people forget Obama's openly stated policy goals. Some of us voted for him because of his openly stated policy goals.
 
2013-12-16 10:36:12 AM  

ikanreed: Nabb1: A Cave Geek: ikanreed: So, republicans, if you run someone who promises a complete end to interventionism for "our protection", your critiques of "Obama's drones" would hold a lot more water.  I don't like it, but the biggest complainers seem like they'd not only continue it, but start a war in Iran too.

"Butt...butbutbutbutbut...It's patriotic when WE do it!!!!!"

/facepalm in the GOP's general direction.

So we can mark you guys down as approving of this sort of thing?

Did you read my post?  Of course I don't approve, but I'm not likely to consider the attacks against something, by someone whose solution to it would be to amp it up.  There's a better approach to the drone/terrorism problem from the left, but at the national level, we have all of 2 or 3 people who are genuinely liberal.


I'm trying to think of who the third is.
 
2013-12-16 10:37:31 AM  

MindStalker: Lost Thought 00: There are an awful lot of "wedding parties" which conveniently contain a large gathering of known terrorists.

Think of it as the 50s, your in Chicago and these terrorist are Mob Gangsters.


We routinely killed the wives and children of Mob men and not a single tear was shed
 
2013-12-16 10:40:46 AM  
Yep. American foreign policy sucks rancid donkey balls - has for near 70 years.
Nice that so many people seem to finally be noticing it.
I wonder what it was that finally got it across to them?
 
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