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2013-12-16 06:53:28 AM
Let's all remember the Reason for the Season, and keep Chris in Christmas.
 
2013-12-16 07:17:47 AM
That's the kind of joke I kick myself for not thinking of it first.
 
2013-12-16 07:19:16 AM
Well isn't that SPECIAL!?!
 
2013-12-16 07:20:35 AM
How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.
 
2013-12-16 07:24:46 AM
Keep the Jölföðr in Yuletide...
 
2013-12-16 07:25:59 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-16 07:29:13 AM
And we should keep something something in Uranus?

or perhaps, Urectum?

Naw. NTTATWWT
 
2013-12-16 07:30:23 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.


They're not, but the point is that one banner is hung on public property without a permit, and the organization was denied the opportunity to hang their banner in a similar fashion on public property by the township.
 
2013-12-16 07:30:29 AM

Odin's Other Eye: Keep the Jölföðr in Yuletide...


I tried to explain how Odin and Santa were the same to someone and they made me leave. Then again, I didn't say "Odin", I said "God". They knew I was a Heathen, so who did they think I meant? Some people, I swear....
 
2013-12-16 07:32:07 AM
bloggingblue.com
 
2013-12-16 07:34:02 AM

Misch: Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.

They're not, but the point is that one banner is hung on public property without a permit, and the organization was denied the opportunity to hang their banner in a similar fashion on public property by the township.


OK, that makes all the difference right there.
 
2013-12-16 07:34:02 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.


I don't see how you can miss the obvious point. In this case a government official (Catholic) is OK with the Knights of Columbus (Catholics) putting up a display over a public street, but he is not OK with a non-Catholic group putting their display on a privately-leased public billboard. The problem is that is very clearly a separation of Church and State issue. The issue is not which group is "better." The point is that in the view of the State the groups must be seen as equal.
 
2013-12-16 07:34:54 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Odin's Other Eye: Keep the Jölföðr in Yuletide...

I tried to explain how Odin and Santa were the same to someone and they made me leave. Then again, I didn't say "Odin", I said "God". They knew I was a Heathen, so who did they think I meant? Some people, I swear....


Well he's got the hat, but I've never seen a one-eyed Santa. ;)

(of course you're right. And I love that up here the Julbok used to be the one that brought the presents, before he got sort of assimilated/replaced with the Julenisse. Imagine a big goat breaking into your house and bringing presents. That's just weird. I just tried to explain the origin of Lussekatter to my daughter - she thought it was cool that you could repel the forces of darkness with tasty saffron buns.)
 
2013-12-16 07:36:38 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.


Hey. Guy.

Figure out what "religion" means and discover to your amazement that "...without a deity..." kinda makes it NOT a religion.

Moron.
 
2013-12-16 07:38:47 AM
Some of my more conservative friends are not happy when I point out that Christmas is actually riding on pagan coat tails. They get all cranky over the facts and then walk away in a huff. I don't get the big deal. So your religion decided to jump into the solstice celebrations with us pagans. The more gods the merrier, jump on in and have a good time. We sure don't mind.
 
2013-12-16 07:39:17 AM
Colin O'Scopy:  Figure out what "religion" means and discover to your amazement that "...without a deity..." kinda makes it NOT a religion.

Moron.


Uh, Buddhism might disagree with you just a titch.
 
2013-12-16 07:40:19 AM

Mirandized: Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.

I don't see how you can miss the obvious point. In this case a government official (Catholic) is OK with the Knights of Columbus (Catholics) putting up a display over a public street, but he is not OK with a non-Catholic group putting their display on a privately-leased public billboard. The problem is that is very clearly a separation of Church and State issue. The issue is not which group is "better." The point is that in the view of the State the groups must be seen as equal.


I think Misch explained it better. The way you are putting it makes it sound like the official is taking an official issue with a leased billboard or somesuch rather than a personal issue, which is what religious nutters DO - take personal issue with viewpoints not their own. Some of them try to make it an official issue, which is a no-no. If it's a private display, which the Saturn/Saturnalia thing is, then according to TFA, the official says it has a right to be there even if he personally finds it disturbing. It's not being ordered removed and it doesn't sound like lawsuits are flying or anything. A few people just got their knickers in a wad. A very uncomfortable, high-riding wad.
 
2013-12-16 07:41:22 AM

Colin O'Scopy: Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.

Hey. Guy.

Figure out what "religion" means and discover to your amazement that "...without a deity..." kinda makes it NOT a religion.

Moron.


Prepare your anus, kid
 
2013-12-16 07:41:59 AM

Colin O'Scopy: Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.

Hey. Guy.

Figure out what "religion" means and discover to your amazement that "...without a deity..." kinda makes it NOT a religion.

Moron.


I didn't say atheism was a religion. I said some atheists were religious extremists who lack a deity to blame their asshattery on. The behaviors are the same in those cases.

Also, the Buddhists would like a word with you.
 
2013-12-16 07:44:27 AM

Colin O'Scopy: Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.

Hey. Guy.

Figure out what "religion" means and discover to your amazement that "...without a deity..." kinda makes it NOT a religion.

Moron.


Buddhism you blithering Imbecile.
 
2013-12-16 07:44:41 AM
Looks to me the Christmasians have started the airing of grievance a little early.
 
2013-12-16 07:44:46 AM
Saturn?
www.accelerator3359.com
/Probably best left for the pro wrestling threads, I know...
 
2013-12-16 07:54:53 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.


I do believe that at this point it's a case of *chicken or the egg*. One side whispers, the other retaliates with quiet comment, the first side replies with a snarky comment... and they're off.

Or maybe it's more like spontaneous combustion, both sides engulfed in righteous indignation without restraint.

/Why can't we all just get along?
//Think of the children.
///The check is in the mail.
////Wait, what was I saying???
 
2013-12-16 07:58:02 AM

Odin's Other Eye: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Odin's Other Eye: Keep the Jölföðr in Yuletide...

I tried to explain how Odin and Santa were the same to someone and they made me leave. Then again, I didn't say "Odin", I said "God". They knew I was a Heathen, so who did they think I meant? Some people, I swear....

Well he's got the hat, but I've never seen a one-eyed Santa. ;)

(of course you're right. And I love that up here the Julbok used to be the one that brought the presents, before he got sort of assimilated/replaced with the Julenisse. Imagine a big goat breaking into your house and bringing presents. That's just weird. I just tried to explain the origin of Lussekatter to my daughter - she thought it was cool that you could repel the forces of darkness with tasty saffron buns.)


I think all the different traditions in the various Heathen communities are neat! (I prefer cardamon buns, for instance). Other people find it confusing though. I tried explaining to someone once that all of the different beliefs and traditions and whatnot among various Heathens was because we're not dogmatic and we are very much relationship based. Our relationship with our kin, our community, any wights and, if the Heathen is theistic, the gods is paramount. This is why the majority of Heathenfolk won't be bothered one bit by someone who honors a different deity or no deity at all. There's a standard of behavior we hold ourselves to as a way of creating and maintaining relationships, but beliefs and practices of the other isn't much of a concern unless it is used as an excuse to do harm. They truly did not understand that at all - or even how someone could be agnostic or atheist AND a Heathen - so it finally ended with me saying "Have you ever tried telling a Germanic person what to do?" and laughing. I think they walked away from that with the impression that we're all too stubborn to behave rather than we behave because we are responsible for our behavior and it's better for all involved if we DO behave ourselves properly.

Also, I need to google up if the Swedes have burned down their goat yet. It's tradition!
 
2013-12-16 07:58:51 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Odin's Other Eye: Keep the Jölföðr in Yuletide...

I tried to explain how Odin and Santa were the same to someone and they made me leave. Then again, I didn't say "Odin", I said "God". They knew I was a Heathen, so who did they think I meant? Some people, I swear....


Oh, and much more importantly,

images.vivino.com

is awesome. Will totally light your Yule log... er... or... something.
 
2013-12-16 08:02:00 AM

Salem Witch: Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.

I do believe that at this point it's a case of *chicken or the egg*. One side whispers, the other retaliates with quiet comment, the first side replies with a snarky comment... and they're off.

Or maybe it's more like spontaneous combustion, both sides engulfed in righteous indignation without restraint.

/Why can't we all just get along?
//Think of the children.
///The check is in the mail.
////Wait, what was I saying???


That is a very astute observation. Thinking about it, that is what I see IRL around me when some of them get upset with each other. It does devolve into finger pointing and weird accusations. Like little kids with "HE STARTED IT!"
 
2013-12-16 08:04:21 AM

Odin's Other Eye: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Odin's Other Eye: Keep the Jölföðr in Yuletide...

I tried to explain how Odin and Santa were the same to someone and they made me leave. Then again, I didn't say "Odin", I said "God". They knew I was a Heathen, so who did they think I meant? Some people, I swear....

Oh, and much more importantly,

[images.vivino.com image 375x500]

is awesome. Will totally light your Yule log... er... or... something.


Usually I try and get a Lysholm Linie Aquavit for Yule. They have celebration releases every year, but this year has been tough so I'm stuck with Aalborg. For some reason it's much easier to get in my area, but it's just not nearly as good. I'm not sure they even age that stuff.
 
2013-12-16 08:05:30 AM

Odin's Other Eye: Oh, and much more importantly,


Ah, love the stuff.

Once in a bar in Norway I saw a guy with a bottle of the stuff, sitting alone at a table, pouring a shot, lighting it on fire, and drinking it.  Wash, rinse, repeat.  I thought to myself, "aren't flaming drinks usually for the entertainment of a group of people instead of a lone, giggling drunk?"  But hey, in his defense, he did seem to be having a great time.

/What's his Fark handle, etc.?
 
2013-12-16 08:05:46 AM
And keep the anal in Bacchanalia.

/Wait...what?
 
2013-12-16 08:10:10 AM

Mirandized: Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.

I don't see how you can miss the obvious point. In this case a government official (Catholic) is OK with the Knights of Columbus (Catholics) putting up a display over a public street, but he is not OK with a non-Catholic group putting their display on a privately-leased public billboard. The problem is that is very clearly a separation of Church and State issue. The issue is not which group is "better." The point is that in the view of the State the groups must be seen as equal.


Thank FSM these guys are fighting the good fight and trying to stop the horrible injustice of... some random farking banner. By trolling in real life.

/slow clap
//no, it's cool--keep focusing on totally real and important issues
///it's not already absurd to the point of self-parody
 
2013-12-16 08:11:39 AM
Christmas is wonderful, one of the best things in life.  A celebration of joy and giving to those we love.

As a national holiday, Christmas is the right and common legacy of all US citizens.  If it were just for Christians it would be blatantly illegal.

Keep your Christ OUT of my Christmas!

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-12-16 08:13:24 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit:

That is a very astute observation. Thinking about it, that is what I see IRL around me when some of them get upset with each other. It does devolve into finger pointing and weird accusations. Like little kids with "HE STARTED IT!"


However, it is at times very trying, to be moderate. Concerning religion I've known many more butthurt Christians than butthurt agnostics ;-)
 
2013-12-16 08:19:02 AM
And keep the hog in Hogmanay, as well as the ground hog in Groundhog Day.
 
2013-12-16 08:34:40 AM
So the christians co opt a pagan holiday, in the winter months, to celebrate the spring birth of who they claim, is the son of god? Seems legit.
 
2013-12-16 08:41:26 AM

Odin's Other Eye: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Odin's Other Eye: Keep the Jölföðr in Yuletide...

I tried to explain how Odin and Santa were the same to someone and they made me leave. Then again, I didn't say "Odin", I said "God". They knew I was a Heathen, so who did they think I meant? Some people, I swear....

Well he's got the hat, but I've never seen a one-eyed Santa. ;)

(of course you're right. And I love that up here the Julbok used to be the one that brought the presents, before he got sort of assimilated/replaced with the Julenisse. Imagine a big goat breaking into your house and bringing presents. That's just weird. I just tried to explain the origin of Lussekatter to my daughter - she thought it was cool that you could repel the forces of darkness with tasty saffron buns.)


And with the touch of his nose and A WINK,
Up the chimney he went, fast as a blink.
 
2013-12-16 08:42:56 AM

Radak: Odin's Other Eye: Oh, and much more importantly,

Ah, love the stuff.

Once in a bar in Norway I saw a guy with a bottle of the stuff, sitting alone at a table, pouring a shot, lighting it on fire, and drinking it.  Wash, rinse, repeat.  I thought to myself, "aren't flaming drinks usually for the entertainment of a group of people instead of a lone, giggling drunk?"  But hey, in his defense, he did seem to be having a great time.

/What's his Fark handle, etc.?


Norwegians love fire. That's about it. You know how you can tell if a restaurant/bar is open? If the giant torches outside are lit, shooting flames 2-4 feet in the air. Seriously. There are fires burning everywhere this time of year - it keeps the demons (i.e. mind-numbing seasonal affective disorder) away.

Was at a Julemarked at a school 2 weeks ago with my daughter and they had a "ride" which was called a "Barnegrill" - a wooden cage that you could put 2 children in and then 2 grownups dressed as devils rotate it next to a big fire. Sign said "If parents would like to grill their own children, please contact staff and we can make arrangements".

But back on topic, Jul is awesome. Sure, it's Christmas, but without any Christ in the name, so you don't *have* to involve baby Jeebus if you don't have to. If you'd rather just have drinking feasting and decorations and presents and hoping the sun comes back someday, well that's what it's all about. No need for "War on Christmas" BS.
 
2013-12-16 08:48:18 AM
i2.cdn.turner.com
 
2013-12-16 08:49:33 AM

Odin's Other Eye: Radak: Odin's Other Eye: Oh, and much more importantly,

Ah, love the stuff.

Once in a bar in Norway I saw a guy with a bottle of the stuff, sitting alone at a table, pouring a shot, lighting it on fire, and drinking it.  Wash, rinse, repeat.  I thought to myself, "aren't flaming drinks usually for the entertainment of a group of people instead of a lone, giggling drunk?"  But hey, in his defense, he did seem to be having a great time.

/What's his Fark handle, etc.?

Norwegians love fire. That's about it. You know how you can tell if a restaurant/bar is open? If the giant torches outside are lit, shooting flames 2-4 feet in the air. Seriously. There are fires burning everywhere this time of year - it keeps the demons (i.e. mind-numbing seasonal affective disorder) away.

Was at a Julemarked at a school 2 weeks ago with my daughter and they had a "ride" which was called a "Barnegrill" - a wooden cage that you could put 2 children in and then 2 grownups dressed as devils rotate it next to a big fire. Sign said "If parents would like to grill their own children, please contact staff and we can make arrangements".

But back on topic, Jul is awesome. Sure, it's Christmas, but without any Christ in the name, so you don't *have* to involve baby Jeebus if you don't have to. If you'd rather just have drinking feasting and decorations and presents and hoping the sun comes back someday, well that's what it's all about. No need for "War on Christmas" BS.


I agree with the "Norwegians love fire". I'm from California - born, raised and praised, thankyewverymuch - but I'm a Norwegian's anchor baby. I also love fire. It must be genetic. The love of tamales is purely based on location, I'm sure. Oh, and the awesomeness of tamales.

Gavlebocken web cam, just in case anyone wants to see if the Gavle Jul Goat survives Yule, in almost real time.

/I'm pulling for the arsonists
 
2013-12-16 09:20:14 AM

Salem Witch: Concerning religion I've known many more butthurt Christians than butthurt agnostics ;-)


That's because the conservative ones also tend to be the kinky ones.

Felix Saturnalia omnes!
 
2013-12-16 09:21:07 AM
i47.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-16 09:36:35 AM

Weaver95: Some of my more conservative friends are not happy when I point out that Christmas is actually riding on pagan coat tails. They get all cranky over the facts and then walk away in a huff. I don't get the big deal. So your religion decided to jump into the solstice celebrations with us pagans. The more gods the merrier, jump on in and have a good time. We sure don't mind.


Read the bible again, and specifically look for where it's down on pagans. And when I mean "down", I mean "commanding genocide against them". The NT is not specifically down on Pagans, but I think the subliminal messages from the OT gets to the heads of Christians. I wonder which is really worse for them: Satanists, Pagans, or Atheists? I am starting to think pagans are the most fundamental conflict in Judeo Christianity, even more than Satan.
 
2013-12-16 09:50:55 AM

Scorpio Rex: Salem Witch: Concerning religion I've known many more butthurt Christians than butthurt agnostics ;-)

That's because the conservative ones also tend to be the kinky ones.

Felix Saturnalia omnes!


Ohh, coitus obliquatur.

Beatus amicum saturnalis.
 
2013-12-16 10:12:43 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: And keep the anal in Bacchanalia.

/Wait...what?


I tell the missus "I like to put the Yu in Yule". Then I strap her to the wheel.

/good times.
 
2013-12-16 10:17:03 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Weaver95: Some of my more conservative friends are not happy when I point out that Christmas is actually riding on pagan coat tails. They get all cranky over the facts and then walk away in a huff. I don't get the big deal. So your religion decided to jump into the solstice celebrations with us pagans. The more gods the merrier, jump on in and have a good time. We sure don't mind.

Read the bible again, and specifically look for where it's down on pagans. And when I mean "down", I mean "commanding genocide against them". The NT is not specifically down on Pagans, but I think the subliminal messages from the OT gets to the heads of Christians. I wonder which is really worse for them: Satanists, Pagans, or Atheists? I am starting to think pagans are the most fundamental conflict in Judeo Christianity, even more than Satan.


I think you know just as well as anyone that for the most part, they don't differentiate.  That said, at least Satan is a being that they for the most part accept as real as part of their religion, so Satanists at least follow someone they believe in.  I don't think it matters though, they largely follow a Boolean philosophy, you either worship their god, or you don't.
 
2013-12-16 10:42:13 AM

Misch: Real Women Drink Akvavit: How are these guys "better" than the people they don't like? I think they're the same person in a lot of cases. A Christmas sign doesn't hurt them any more than a Yule sign or a Festivus pole hurts Christians. At least with the religious extremists with a deity you can say "they hear voices - scary! medicate them." but the religious extremists that lack a deity, what do you even do about that? Can you medicate someone for being an overly sensitive assmunch?

OK, the Festivus pole could hurt if you really tried, but I'm pretty sure that would count as some sort of assault.

They're not, but the point is that one banner is hung on public property without a permit, and the organization was denied the opportunity to hang their banner in a similar fashion on public property by the township.


You read that incorrectly

" a local religious organization who puts up the banner each year, did not have the proper permit to hang the sign even though it was hung on private property. "

Private property. End of story. I'm not sure why you need a permit to put anything on your own private property there that doesn't cause real harm to a 3rd party (and no getting pissed off because you read something you disagree with is not a real harm that needs remediation). The local laws are on the books. Enforce them. Tear them both down
 
2013-12-16 10:48:23 AM

Kibbler: That's the kind of joke I kick myself for not thinking of it first.


That's the precise joke I did think of first, a couple of years ago in a War On Christmas skirmish.
 
2013-12-16 10:49:49 AM

OhioKnight: Christmas is wonderful, one of the best things in life.  A celebration of joy and giving to those we love.

As a national holiday, Christmas is the right and common legacy of all US citizens.  If it were just for Christians it would be blatantly illegal.

Keep your Christ OUT of my Christmas!

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x1189]


The tradition of Santa and St. Nick is a very Christian tradition :/ Along with the whole gift-giving thing with the Three Wise Men on Epiphany
 
2013-12-16 10:54:47 AM

Harry Freakstorm: And we should keep something something in Uranus?

or perhaps, Urectum?

Naw. NTTATWWT


Smells what you did there.

thesecretliberalagenda.com
 
2013-12-16 10:55:58 AM

Elroydb: OhioKnight: Christmas is wonderful, one of the best things in life.  A celebration of joy and giving to those we love.

As a national holiday, Christmas is the right and common legacy of all US citizens.  If it were just for Christians it would be blatantly illegal.

Keep your Christ OUT of my Christmas!

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The tradition of Santa and St. Nick is a very Christian tradition :/ Along with the whole gift-giving thing with the Three Wise Men on Epiphany


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Sure they are christian traditions, and they have been ever since they copied those traditions, nearly in their entirety, from other religions they were in direct competition with.
 
2013-12-16 10:56:05 AM
This town needs to stop praying the wrong god and get right with the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
 
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