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(Opposing Views)   School decides not to call 911 when 6-year-old girl loses a piece of her finger because they "didn't feel like it was an emergency"   (opposingviews.com ) divider line
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2013-12-15 07:38:30 PM  
If they  didcall 911, the family would complain about having to pay for the ambulance ride.

"You called 911?  We have to pay $500 for the ride now!  Why didn't you just call us?!"
 
2013-12-15 07:38:40 PM  

Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.


I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.
 
2013-12-15 07:39:20 PM  

whidbey: I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.


 I don't even know WTF you're talking about at this point.
 
2013-12-15 07:40:34 PM  
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2013-12-15 07:40:49 PM  
Is this your card?

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2013-12-15 07:41:06 PM  

Molavian: hardinparamedic: Satanic_Hamster: You don't have to call an ambulance for everything, subby.  For minor things, it's quicker and easier to just drive them to a clinic or the hospital yourself.  Ambulances aren't taxi services.  shiat, I've driven a guy to the hospital who had just cut off of one finger.

Depending on where you're at, a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic.

Tip.  Fingertip.  I bet it didn't even hit nail bed, let alone bone.


If you've ever seen someone crush a finger in a door before, it's not exactly a nice clean surgical cut.

We're not talking about someone playing with a power tool or sharp knife, a little kid crushed her finger enough to clip off the tip. That tends to have other problems involved (like losing the nail, if it was still there)

Again, my reaction (and I am First Aid/CPR trained) would be to control the bleeding, and get the kid some damn help. Imagine if you're at work, and someone called you.

How long does it take to get there? Do you know where the nearest hospital would be? What time of day and traffic are you looking at? If the kid has the sniffles, sure, they can wait. Body parts get removed, you really should be calling professionals.
 
2013-12-15 07:41:59 PM  
unexpectly, school officials make new policy that just the tip from amazing johnson is no big deal
 
2013-12-15 07:42:42 PM  

NickelP: unexpectly, school officials make new policy that just the tip from amazing johnson is no big deal


Catholic School? :D
 
2013-12-15 07:44:27 PM  

houstondragon: Molavian: hardinparamedic: Satanic_Hamster: You don't have to call an ambulance for everything, subby.  For minor things, it's quicker and easier to just drive them to a clinic or the hospital yourself.  Ambulances aren't taxi services.  shiat, I've driven a guy to the hospital who had just cut off of one finger.

Depending on where you're at, a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic.

Tip.  Fingertip.  I bet it didn't even hit nail bed, let alone bone.

If you've ever seen someone crush a finger in a door before, it's not exactly a nice clean surgical cut.

We're not talking about someone playing with a power tool or sharp knife, a little kid crushed her finger enough to clip off the tip. That tends to have other problems involved (like losing the nail, if it was still there)

Again, my reaction (and I am First Aid/CPR trained) would be to control the bleeding, and get the kid some damn help. Imagine if you're at work, and someone called you.

How long does it take to get there? Do you know where the nearest hospital would be? What time of day and traffic are you looking at? If the kid has the sniffles, sure, they can wait. Body parts get removed, you really should be calling professionals.


I have 0 medical training and my Weeners would be to debate if I need to call 911 or if I should just go straight to the hospital. no idea what they were thinking
 
2013-12-15 07:46:06 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Amazingness aside....If a 6-year old's having a piece of her finger cut off is not an emergency warranting a 911 call, one wonders what would be. Does the nurse subscribe to the Black Knight theory of limb amputation? "Tis but a scratch!"


What warrants a 911 call? Just have another child come give this one a hug. The rest should sort itself out.
 
2013-12-15 07:47:51 PM  
Please don't call 911 for stupid crap like this. 911 is for life threatining emergencies. Not because your dumb kid smashed the tip of a finger.
 
2013-12-15 07:49:43 PM  
It is not an emergency.   The girl was not going to die nor were any of her limbs rendered or would be rendered inoperable due to the accident.  Yes it's yucky and could have left the tip of the pinky without a tip but you don't use an ambulance service up for something Yucky.

Sorry right call by the school
 
2013-12-15 07:52:10 PM  

brantgoose: This reminds me of the time when my great uncle was about six years old he accidentally cut the tip off of one of his fingers and my great-grandmother sewed it back on. She was midwife to the local women and as close to a Doctor or nurse that they had in their rural community.

Perhaps a finger tip isn't a vital emergency, but if you get the lost part to a doctor quickly or even to a nurse, they might be able to save it like my great-grandmother did. I hear putting a lost tooth or body part in milk will help keep it alive. I suppose any cool balanced saline solution would do, possiby even a sports drink.

Some of my relations were more prone to lossing body parts than others. (Makes the drinky-drinky sign -- glug, glug, glug).

Once my grandfather got a salmon fly caught in the septum of his nose. It looked like a little rainbow toothbrush (Hitler) mustache. We laughed, and we laughed and we laughed. It was funny and not too painful. The doctor cut it off with some pliers or wire-cutters or  something. Anybody could have thought of that, dammit.

Another time he was impaled by a two-by-four.

I can't say it was his fault, but I expect he was drunk at the time, the same as the times when he lost some fingers.

Don't horse around with booze and saws, as the shop teacher on South Park would put it.


Is your family composed of rock trolls or hill trolls?  Does Darwinism apply to any of you or do you all safely ignore it like bugs bunny ignores physics?
 
2013-12-15 07:53:47 PM  
Losing the tip of a finger is not life threatening, as long as it's put on ice you have hours to get it reattached.  From the article it's hard to say how much was cut off. If it wasn't down to the bone it will grow back eventually anyway.
 
2013-12-15 07:54:28 PM  
school nurses actions of loving on amazing johnson during the school day defended by administration
 
2013-12-15 07:54:59 PM  

hardinparamedic: Depending on where you're at, a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic.


From the hospital.  If you call 911 and say you have a severed finger, I highly doubt they'll send Lifeflight out to you direct.  I'm not saying don't call 911 and ask what to do, just saying that automatically expecting an ambulance isn't warranted.
 
2013-12-15 07:57:05 PM  
after smashing tip in a door, amazing johnson becomes a little less amazing
 
2013-12-15 07:57:16 PM  

kwame: NutWrench: kwame: Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.

I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.

Nope. You're butthurt.

I'm in a van on a country road with a head cold. You and the rest of these idiots are nothing more than a diversion. Don't get too thrilled with yourself.


Sorry to cause you undue stress, but I neither like nor dislike you any more than I would any other poor squashed critter on the side of the road. My concern for your health (are you in fact insane, or just lonely?) is a social concern. On a personal level you mean nothing to me. This is almost certainly not the sort of attention that you're seeking, but it's all I'm willing to extend you.
 
2013-12-15 07:57:48 PM  
Just the tip?
 
2013-12-15 07:58:10 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: hardinparamedic: Depending on where you're at, a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic.

From the hospital.  If you call 911 and say you have a severed finger, I highly doubt they'll send Lifeflight out to you direct.  I'm not saying don't call 911 and ask what to do, just saying that automatically expecting an ambulance isn't warranted.


if you call 911 because your finger tip got smashed off I am pretty sure they'd send a squad.
 
2013-12-15 07:58:32 PM  

NutWrench: kwame: NutWrench: kwame: Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.

I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.

Nope. You're butthurt.

I'm in a van on a country road with a head cold. You and the rest of these idiots are nothing more than a diversion. Don't get too thrilled with yourself.

Sorry to cause you undue stress, but I neither like nor dislike you any more than I would any other poor squashed critter on the side of the road. My concern for your health (are you in fact insane, or just lonely?) is a social concern. On a personal level you mean nothing to me. This is almost certainly not the sort of attention that you're seeking, but it's all I'm willing to extend you.


So wait, I tell you I don't give a sh*t and you reply with well I care even less? That's f*cking adorable.
 
2013-12-15 08:00:58 PM  

kwame: NutWrench: kwame: NutWrench: kwame: Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.

I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.

Nope. You're butthurt.

I'm in a van on a country road with a head cold. You and the rest of these idiots are nothing more than a diversion. Don't get too thrilled with yourself.

Sorry to cause you undue stress, but I neither like nor dislike you any more than I would any other poor squashed critter on the side of the road. My concern for your health (are you in fact insane, or just lonely?) is a social concern. On a personal level you mean nothing to me. This is almost certainly not the sort of attention that you're seeking, but it's all I'm willing to extend you.

So wait, I tell you I don't give a sh*t and you reply with well I care even less? That's f*cking adorable.


that dudes an idiotic asshole, but can you at least agree minimally you'd assume that girls parents are idiots for naming her that? why give your child a name that could set them back in life?
 
2013-12-15 08:01:41 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: A link to the story that is NOT on Opposing Views for those who are opposed to Opposing Views.

/refuse to click on that crap


Thanks. That farking popup!! Even when I click perfectly on the x it takes me to the story linked underneath.
The person who set the page up needs a throat punch for that popup alone.
 
2013-12-15 08:01:56 PM  
Save the part on ice and call the parents. You can't presume to know whether the parents have the resources that can be drained by such an event. Thousands of dollars spent that they may not have.
 
2013-12-15 08:02:29 PM  
That poor child, how could they do that to her?

I mean, AMAZING? Do they want her to become a magician or a stripper?

/why not both?
//**fiesta music**
 
2013-12-15 08:03:43 PM  

NutWrench: kwame: NutWrench: kwame: Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.

I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.

Nope. You're butthurt.

I'm in a van on a country road with a head cold. You and the rest of these idiots are nothing more than a diversion. Don't get too thrilled with yourself.

Sorry to cause you undue stress, but I neither like nor dislike you any more than I would any other poor squashed critter on the side of the road. My concern for your health (are you in fact insane, or just lonely?) is a social concern. On a personal level you mean nothing to me. This is almost certainly not the sort of attention that you're seeking, but it's all I'm willing to extend you.


You named your kid something ridiculous or you are named something ridiculous and haven't changed it,  regardless, this is all the attention I'll waste on you.
 
2013-12-15 08:06:37 PM  
The amazing johnson debuts new trick making the tip disappear
 
2013-12-15 08:07:31 PM  
Re: this little girl's name, different ethnic and religious groups in American society have different naming conventions.

For example, in my ethnic background children were traditionally named after deceased relatives. This leads to a somewhat restricted palette from which to choose (for example, my father's patrilineal ancestry alternated between "David" and "Max" for five generations) but that doesn't imply that we're being ridiculous about names.

Whereas in other groups in American society, including but far from limited to African-American communities, kids' names are often chosen for uniqueness or relation to something important in the parents' lives (e.g., Unique, Nevaeh, Aquanetta). Okay, so you think that's a silly naming convention? You have that right. Just don't be surprised if people are taken aback when you mock groups of people based on this. Personally, I think names like Todd or Anthony or Bruce are a bit strange, to say nothing of Mitt or Johns or Trig, but you won't hear me calling out Anglo folks for giving their kids silly names.
 
2013-12-15 08:08:27 PM  

NickelP: kwame: NutWrench: kwame: NutWrench: kwame: Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.

I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.

Nope. You're butthurt.

I'm in a van on a country road with a head cold. You and the rest of these idiots are nothing more than a diversion. Don't get too thrilled with yourself.

Sorry to cause you undue stress, but I neither like nor dislike you any more than I would any other poor squashed critter on the side of the road. My concern for your health (are you in fact insane, or just lonely?) is a social concern. On a personal level you mean nothing to me. This is almost certainly not the sort of attention that you're seeking, but it's all I'm willing to extend you.

So wait, I tell you I don't give a sh*t and you reply with well I care even less? That's f*cking adorable.

that dudes an idiotic asshole, but can you at least agree minimally you'd assume that girls parents are idiots for naming her that? why give your child a name that could set them back in life?


Why assume it would set her back?
 
2013-12-15 08:08:44 PM  

hardinparamedic: You have four hours, from the point the finger is detached, to get that child to a micro-vascular surgeon capable of performing re-implantation surgery. The loss of a finger, or part of a digit, is a time-critical emergency from which delaying can result in substantial life-long disability and cost to that child and his/her parents in rehabilitation and lost ability to perform a job later in life. This is a situation which would have been ideal for EMS intervention.


Exactly.  It's not the threat to her life (which is basically nonexistent), but the threat to the fingertip.
 
2013-12-15 08:09:31 PM  
Truth be told, that name will probably help her quickly identify small-minded and prejudiced people.
 
2013-12-15 08:09:35 PM  
Just the tip of the amazing johnson will get you in trouble
 
2013-12-15 08:11:18 PM  
This wouldn't be an issue of that piece of finger was shaped like a gun.
 
2013-12-15 08:11:22 PM  
How about Lewis Black? Would he count?
 
2013-12-15 08:11:59 PM  

kwame: Truth be told, that name will probably help her quickly identify small-minded and prejudiced people.


Just because it sounds ridiculous. To be honest, without a pic I'd have bet on white trash.
 
2013-12-15 08:12:51 PM  

kwame: Truth be told, that name will probably help her quickly identify small-minded and prejudiced people.


Especially the ones hiring her.
 
2013-12-15 08:12:55 PM  

whidbey: hardinparamedic: whidbey: I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.

Do you think shiathead is a good name for a baby? I'm just curious where you draw the line.

/actual name.

Protip: Paul Harvey and Rush Limbaugh are not viable sources of information.


What about Lewis Black? Would you consider him a viable source?
 
2013-12-15 08:13:14 PM  
The name you pick for your child is important and deserves a little more thought than the five minutes it took to come up with something that sounds like a prescription medication or a flavor of Jello.
 
2013-12-15 08:14:29 PM  
"This is our daughter, Fantastic Dick."
 
2013-12-15 08:16:06 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: "This is our daughter, Fantastic Dick."


Dick Fantastic is my porn name.
 
2013-12-15 08:16:45 PM  
It's not often that a school administrator doors something to make me want to see them get mauled by a bear more than a zero tolerance asshat, without doing any molesting.
 
2013-12-15 08:17:55 PM  
I hope in her day-to-day life she's called something like Mazie or Amy.


/or Basketball Jones.
 
2013-12-15 08:18:34 PM  

orclover: Is your family composed of rock trolls or hill trolls?  Does Darwinism apply to any of you or do you all safely ignore it like bugs bunny ignores physics?


It's Canada. It doesn't matter how you injure yourself, everything just freezes instantly and almost no one ever dies from amputations. That's why Canadians are so carefree.
 
2013-12-15 08:19:20 PM  
I have a vewy good fwiend in Wome called Amazing Johnson.
 
2013-12-15 08:22:43 PM  
Latesha Coleman arrived at the hospital where Amazing had been taken by her father to find him holding a bag, "and he had the tip of her pinky in the bag."

"Pinky", lol.
 
2013-12-15 08:25:24 PM  
She didn't lose the piece of her finger. She had it in a bag. Knew right where it was the whole time. Plus it got re-attached, so she didn't lose it in that sense, either.
 
2013-12-15 08:29:15 PM  
yeah 911 should have been called in this case.
 
2013-12-15 08:32:55 PM  
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2013-12-15 08:33:53 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: A link to the story that is NOT on Opposing Views for those who are opposed to Opposing Views.

/refuse to click on that crap


since opposing views always links to the original source i just click them, find the original source link and go on my way. and since i run ad block my being there doesn't do much if anything for them.
 
2013-12-15 08:34:34 PM  

Suede head: I'm sure there was a time when calling your kid "John" or "Alison" was hilarious too. It's arbitrary.


No there wasn't. No it's not.
 
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