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2013-12-15 04:56:27 PM  
Well. That was stupid. The person who made the decision not to call 911 for that is an amazing johnson him/herself.
 
2013-12-15 04:59:17 PM  
they cut a piece off an amazing johnson :(
 
2013-12-15 05:01:44 PM  
you missed a hoty quality setup here subs. 'piece of amazing johnson severed off after getting caught in door' was a gimme and I'm not even giving this much thought
 
2013-12-15 05:04:21 PM  
Alas, she was born a fifteen or so years too late for her soulmate:

www.iltlaugh.com
 
2013-12-15 05:04:21 PM  
Amazing!
 
2013-12-15 05:06:27 PM  

hardinparamedic: Well. That was stupid. The person who made the decision not to call 911 for that is an amazing johnson him/herself.


Back in my day you had walk 15 miles in the snow, uphill both ways, to get chewing gum to stick it back on from old Mr McGee's Irish/Chinese Restaurant and Chewing Gum Emporium on fifth street, back when we only had a few streets so we named them all by numbers, which were called Arabian Counters because of John Tower's work as Secretary of state in Arabia during that administration, which as you know preceded the Oil Glut by just seven years, and so that's when we stopped giving our horses greaser hairdos, although we kept making the leather jackets in horse sizes well into the next decade.
 
2013-12-15 05:19:05 PM  
Simple.  Just tell them she took an Advil to deal with the pain.  You'll have 6 cruisers and a K-9 unit in the parking lot within seconds thanks to zero tolerance.
 
2013-12-15 05:50:17 PM  
WTF were they thinking?
 
2013-12-15 06:06:02 PM  

NickelP: they cut a piece off an amazing johnson :(


Look, I'm all for "name your kid whatever you want" but...

JESUS.
 
2013-12-15 06:20:15 PM  

NickelP: you missed a hoty quality setup here subs. 'piece of amazing johnson severed off after getting caught in door' was a gimme and I'm not even giving this much thought


Perhaps you should resubmit it Juan Moore time.
 
2013-12-15 06:56:29 PM  
 
2013-12-15 07:04:28 PM  
 
2013-12-15 07:05:31 PM  
Would they have preferred the ambulance bill instead?
 
2013-12-15 07:06:13 PM  
This is good news. It means schools are learning to abandon zero tolerance rules.
 
2013-12-15 07:09:18 PM  
Amazingness aside....If a 6-year old's having a piece of her finger cut off is not an emergency warranting a 911 call, one wonders what would be. Does the nurse subscribe to the Black Knight theory of limb amputation? "Tis but a scratch!"
 
2013-12-15 07:15:19 PM  
I think I found the problem.
www.opposingviews.com
White kids get EMS.  Black kids get a "not my farking problem" from the principal.  Hell if it were my kid I wouldnt even mind them not calling EMS if they would have just taken my kid directly to the hospital with the finger for treatment.

/ok now imagine she's white.  Now did the school do something wrong? no?  Ok imagine you actually have a shred of decency, lets work from there.
 
2013-12-15 07:16:43 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Don't touch it, it'll regrow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneration_%28biology%29#Fingers


Just 3D print a replacement
 
2013-12-15 07:16:47 PM  

orclover: White kids get EMS.  Black kids get a "not my farking problem" from the principal.  Hell if it were my kid I wouldnt even mind them not calling EMS if they would have just taken my kid directly to the hospital with the finger for treatment.


So now the black kid is getting his finger sewn back on, AND a substantial settlement from the school system.

I don't think they thought their cunning plan all the way through.
 
2013-12-15 07:17:35 PM  
I am amazed
 
2013-12-15 07:17:52 PM  
Yet if sh'd been carrying a small plastic gun from a Star Wars action figure, they'd have called in half the local police force.
 
2013-12-15 07:19:46 PM  
Ehhh... It wasn't a life threatening emergency, though surely painful for the little girl to lose a fingertip. If the bleeding was contained, yeah, I could see transporting her to a hospital.

That said, it's not clear how far the parents were, or how long the kid had to wait for actual medical treatment. First Aid is fine and all, but not a substitute if someone may go into shock or worse. If the finger was crushed enough for that, there could have been worse damage inside the finger itself.

Basically, the school farked up a bit. They carry insurance on their students for exactly that sort of incident; I'm sure the admin thought they'd save a couple of bucks by skipping the ambulance, which will probably cost them a lot more just in bad publicity.
 
2013-12-15 07:20:35 PM  
HURR ABOLISH THE DEPT OF EDUCATION
STARVE THE BEAST STARVE THE BEAST STARVE THE BEAST!
 
2013-12-15 07:21:31 PM  
What kind of dumbass names their kid Amazing?

Idiots.
 
2013-12-15 07:23:24 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Amazingness aside....If a 6-year old's having a piece of her finger cut off is not an emergency warranting a 911 call, one wonders what would be. Does the nurse subscribe to the Black Knight theory of limb amputation? "Tis but a scratch!"


Maybe it was just the tip?
 
2013-12-15 07:24:04 PM  

jmr61: What kind of dumbass names their kid Amazing?

Idiots.


Maybe your parents are just unimaginitive idiots.
 
2013-12-15 07:24:12 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: A link to the story that is NOT on Opposing Views for those who are opposed to Opposing Views.

/refuse to click on that crap


Thank you very much
 
2013-12-15 07:24:26 PM  

houstondragon: Ehhh... It wasn't a life threatening emergency, though surely painful for the little girl to lose a fingertip. If the bleeding was contained, yeah, I could see transporting her to a hospital.

That said, it's not clear how far the parents were, or how long the kid had to wait for actual medical treatment. First Aid is fine and all, but not a substitute if someone may go into shock or worse. If the finger was crushed enough for that, there could have been worse damage inside the finger itself.

Basically, the school farked up a bit. They carry insurance on their students for exactly that sort of incident; I'm sure the admin thought they'd save a couple of bucks by skipping the ambulance, which will probably cost them a lot more just in bad publicity.


You have four hours, from the point the finger is detached, to get that child to a micro-vascular surgeon capable of performing re-implantation surgery. The loss of a finger, or part of a digit, is a time-critical emergency from which delaying can result in substantial life-long disability and cost to that child and his/her parents in rehabilitation and lost ability to perform a job later in life. This is a situation which would have been ideal for EMS intervention.

In reality, this child, barring a hospital being overloaded with critical patients, would be taken back immediately, and either assessed by surgery, or shipped by ground or air to a facility which has a microvascular team, if the digit was still viable.

So yeah. This was an emergency, just as much so as a guy in shock would be. First Aid doesn't qualify you to make a decision on whether or not the finger was viable, and every rational first aid instructor would tell you to call 911 in that instance.
 
2013-12-15 07:24:34 PM  
Attaching fingertips really isn't that big of a deal, assuming the body part is kept on ice and it is attended to quickly.

Latesha Coleman arrived at the hospital where Amazing had been taken by her father to find him holding a bag, "and he had the tip of her pinky in the bag."

I really hope there was some ice in that bag.

Per a call from the administrators: Coleman was told the "nurse was working with Amazing, that Amazing was fine...She's being loved on by the nurse."

First why are the administrators calling the parents and not the nurse.  I can see the nurse calling and saying "X happened, do you want an ambulance called, or do you want to drive her down to the ER yourselves.  It is not life threatening and should be attached asap".

I think school administrators are professional ass-coverers.
 
2013-12-15 07:25:01 PM  

Begoggle: Quantum Apostrophe: Don't touch it, it'll regrow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneration_%28biology%29#Fingers

Just 3D print a replacement


Exactly. I think not having a 3D printer per child is abuse.
 
2013-12-15 07:25:34 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Exactly. I think not having a 3D printer per child is abuse.


I think exposing a child to what you 3D print on your makerbot 2 would be child abuse.
 
2013-12-15 07:25:42 PM  
You don't have to call an ambulance for everything, subby.  For minor things, it's quicker and easier to just drive them to a clinic or the hospital yourself.  Ambulances aren't taxi services.  shiat, I've driven a guy to the hospital who had just cut off of one finger.
 
2013-12-15 07:27:07 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: You don't have to call an ambulance for everything, subby.  For minor things, it's quicker and easier to just drive them to a clinic or the hospital yourself.  Ambulances aren't taxi services.  shiat, I've driven a guy to the hospital who had just cut off of one finger.


Depending on where you're at, a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic.
 
2013-12-15 07:27:59 PM  
This reminds me of the time when my great uncle was about six years old he accidentally cut the tip off of one of his fingers and my great-grandmother sewed it back on. She was midwife to the local women and as close to a Doctor or nurse that they had in their rural community.

Perhaps a finger tip isn't a vital emergency, but if you get the lost part to a doctor quickly or even to a nurse, they might be able to save it like my great-grandmother did. I hear putting a lost tooth or body part in milk will help keep it alive. I suppose any cool balanced saline solution would do, possiby even a sports drink.

Some of my relations were more prone to lossing body parts than others. (Makes the drinky-drinky sign -- glug, glug, glug).

Once my grandfather got a salmon fly caught in the septum of his nose. It looked like a little rainbow toothbrush (Hitler) mustache. We laughed, and we laughed and we laughed. It was funny and not too painful. The doctor cut it off with some pliers or wire-cutters or  something. Anybody could have thought of that, dammit.

Another time he was impaled by a two-by-four.

I can't say it was his fault, but I expect he was drunk at the time, the same as the times when he lost some fingers.

Don't horse around with booze and saws, as the shop teacher on South Park would put it.
 
2013-12-15 07:28:19 PM  
Will they feel like it's an emergency once the lawsuits inevitably roll in?
 
2013-12-15 07:28:33 PM  

orclover: I think I found the problem.
[www.opposingviews.com image 301x251]
White kids get EMS.  Black kids get a "not my farking problem" from the principal.  Hell if it were my kid I wouldnt even mind them not calling EMS if they would have just taken my kid directly to the hospital with the finger for treatment.

/ok now imagine she's white.  Now did the school do something wrong? no?  Ok imagine you actually have a shred of decency, lets work from there.


White vs black is so last century. Now that poor and poor-looking whites get pissed on just as much as poor blacks, and rich blacks can buy their way into the establishment too, class warfare has replaced race wars. Some poor old hillbillies are still living in the past, but the country's moved on to other ways of dividing and oppressing each other.
 
2013-12-15 07:28:36 PM  
hardinparamedic,

And I am not sure if I am completely wrong, but that is better information.
 
2013-12-15 07:30:13 PM  

hardinparamedic: Satanic_Hamster: You don't have to call an ambulance for everything, subby.  For minor things, it's quicker and easier to just drive them to a clinic or the hospital yourself.  Ambulances aren't taxi services.  shiat, I've driven a guy to the hospital who had just cut off of one finger.

Depending on where you're at, a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic.


Tip.  Fingertip.  I bet it didn't even hit nail bed, let alone bone.
 
2013-12-15 07:31:22 PM  
i.imgur.com

Is this something you can share with the rest of us Amazing Larry?
 
2013-12-15 07:31:24 PM  
Oh, if only a little boy had kissed her afterward!

Authorities would be there within minutes to arrest him. They could have also helped her.
 
2013-12-15 07:32:27 PM  
You think Amazing is a weird name, try this, one of my favorites from "Overheard in New York":

Nurse #1: I know, I still can't believe she signed that name on the birth certificate.
Doctor: What name?
Nurse #2: When Dr. Smith* delivered the afterbirth, this mom said, 'Oh my god, what is that?' and Dr. Smith said, 'That's the placenta.'
Nurse #1: Yeah, and then the freakin' idiot says, 'That's the most beautiful name I ever heard! I'm gonna name my baby Placenta.'
Doctor: No, don't tell me-
Nurse #2: Yep.
Doctor: I'm sorry I asked.

-Hospital cafeteria
 
2013-12-15 07:33:43 PM  

brantgoose: Don't horse around with booze and saws, as the shop teacher on South Park would put it


Richard......

COME WATCH ME FLY RICHARD!!!

southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2013-12-15 07:34:29 PM  

whidbey: I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.


Do you think shiathead is a good name for a baby? I'm just curious where you draw the line.

/actual name.
 
2013-12-15 07:35:19 PM  
This isn't an emergency. Kid loses finger, yes. Kid loses tip of finger? Not really. Would suck but don't exactly critical of anything like a large cut basically. You lose a chunk of flesh and move on.
 
2013-12-15 07:36:30 PM  

hardinparamedic: whidbey: I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.

Do you think shiathead is a good name for a baby? I'm just curious where you draw the line.

/actual name.


Protip: Paul Harvey and Rush Limbaugh are not viable sources of information.
 
2013-12-15 07:37:11 PM  
I guess I am in the minority and very stingy or something but I actually don't think the very tip of the finger is worth an ambulance ride and a $10k medical bill to reattach it.  Whole finger? Maybe.
 
2013-12-15 07:37:15 PM  

orclover: I think I found the problem.
[www.opposingviews.com image 301x251]
White kids get EMS.  Black kids get a "not my farking problem" from the principal.  Hell if it were my kid I wouldnt even mind them not calling EMS if they would have just taken my kid directly to the hospital with the finger for treatment.

/ok now imagine she's white.  Now did the school do something wrong? no?  Ok imagine you actually have a shred of decency, lets work from there.


When i was little I was shipped off to summer camp for two weeks. One fine morning I walked to the food hall for breakfast and ended up sitting on a wasp which stung me at least twice on my thigh. I walked over to the nurse as she sat down for breakfast to tell her I had been stung. As you can imagine I was in pain and scared. She told me to wait until after breakfast. For all she knew- I could have been allergic to the venom. I could have died. She had no idea who I was and therefore no knowledge of my medical history. But she told me to wait until she finished her farking breakfast. Meanwhile my upper leg swelled at least twice its size.

/white
 
2013-12-15 07:37:19 PM  

Molavian: hardinparamedic: Satanic_Hamster: You don't have to call an ambulance for everything, subby.  For minor things, it's quicker and easier to just drive them to a clinic or the hospital yourself.  Ambulances aren't taxi services.  shiat, I've driven a guy to the hospital who had just cut off of one finger.

Depending on where you're at, a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic.

Tip.  Fingertip.  I bet it didn't even hit nail bed, let alone bone.


IIRC, TFA said it was severed below the nail.
 
2013-12-15 07:37:23 PM  
That was amazingly stupid
 
2013-12-15 07:37:47 PM  

Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.


I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out. Nothing to see here knuckledragger.
 
2013-12-15 07:38:21 PM  

Rincewind53: NickelP: they cut a piece off an amazing johnson :(

Look, I'm all for "name your kid whatever you want" but...

JESUS.


Obviously named after her daddy. Whoever he was.
 
2013-12-15 07:38:30 PM  
If they  didcall 911, the family would complain about having to pay for the ambulance ride.

"You called 911?  We have to pay $500 for the ride now!  Why didn't you just call us?!"
 
2013-12-15 07:38:40 PM  

Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.


I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.
 
2013-12-15 07:39:20 PM  

whidbey: I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.


 I don't even know WTF you're talking about at this point.
 
2013-12-15 07:40:34 PM  
farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2013-12-15 07:40:49 PM  
Is this your card?

s.mcstatic.com
 
2013-12-15 07:41:06 PM  

Molavian: hardinparamedic: Satanic_Hamster: You don't have to call an ambulance for everything, subby.  For minor things, it's quicker and easier to just drive them to a clinic or the hospital yourself.  Ambulances aren't taxi services.  shiat, I've driven a guy to the hospital who had just cut off of one finger.

Depending on where you're at, a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic.

Tip.  Fingertip.  I bet it didn't even hit nail bed, let alone bone.


If you've ever seen someone crush a finger in a door before, it's not exactly a nice clean surgical cut.

We're not talking about someone playing with a power tool or sharp knife, a little kid crushed her finger enough to clip off the tip. That tends to have other problems involved (like losing the nail, if it was still there)

Again, my reaction (and I am First Aid/CPR trained) would be to control the bleeding, and get the kid some damn help. Imagine if you're at work, and someone called you.

How long does it take to get there? Do you know where the nearest hospital would be? What time of day and traffic are you looking at? If the kid has the sniffles, sure, they can wait. Body parts get removed, you really should be calling professionals.
 
2013-12-15 07:41:59 PM  
unexpectly, school officials make new policy that just the tip from amazing johnson is no big deal
 
2013-12-15 07:42:42 PM  

NickelP: unexpectly, school officials make new policy that just the tip from amazing johnson is no big deal


Catholic School? :D
 
2013-12-15 07:44:27 PM  

houstondragon: Molavian: hardinparamedic: Satanic_Hamster: You don't have to call an ambulance for everything, subby.  For minor things, it's quicker and easier to just drive them to a clinic or the hospital yourself.  Ambulances aren't taxi services.  shiat, I've driven a guy to the hospital who had just cut off of one finger.

Depending on where you're at, a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic.

Tip.  Fingertip.  I bet it didn't even hit nail bed, let alone bone.

If you've ever seen someone crush a finger in a door before, it's not exactly a nice clean surgical cut.

We're not talking about someone playing with a power tool or sharp knife, a little kid crushed her finger enough to clip off the tip. That tends to have other problems involved (like losing the nail, if it was still there)

Again, my reaction (and I am First Aid/CPR trained) would be to control the bleeding, and get the kid some damn help. Imagine if you're at work, and someone called you.

How long does it take to get there? Do you know where the nearest hospital would be? What time of day and traffic are you looking at? If the kid has the sniffles, sure, they can wait. Body parts get removed, you really should be calling professionals.


I have 0 medical training and my Weeners would be to debate if I need to call 911 or if I should just go straight to the hospital. no idea what they were thinking
 
2013-12-15 07:46:06 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Amazingness aside....If a 6-year old's having a piece of her finger cut off is not an emergency warranting a 911 call, one wonders what would be. Does the nurse subscribe to the Black Knight theory of limb amputation? "Tis but a scratch!"


What warrants a 911 call? Just have another child come give this one a hug. The rest should sort itself out.
 
2013-12-15 07:47:51 PM  
Please don't call 911 for stupid crap like this. 911 is for life threatining emergencies. Not because your dumb kid smashed the tip of a finger.
 
2013-12-15 07:49:43 PM  
It is not an emergency.   The girl was not going to die nor were any of her limbs rendered or would be rendered inoperable due to the accident.  Yes it's yucky and could have left the tip of the pinky without a tip but you don't use an ambulance service up for something Yucky.

Sorry right call by the school
 
2013-12-15 07:52:10 PM  

brantgoose: This reminds me of the time when my great uncle was about six years old he accidentally cut the tip off of one of his fingers and my great-grandmother sewed it back on. She was midwife to the local women and as close to a Doctor or nurse that they had in their rural community.

Perhaps a finger tip isn't a vital emergency, but if you get the lost part to a doctor quickly or even to a nurse, they might be able to save it like my great-grandmother did. I hear putting a lost tooth or body part in milk will help keep it alive. I suppose any cool balanced saline solution would do, possiby even a sports drink.

Some of my relations were more prone to lossing body parts than others. (Makes the drinky-drinky sign -- glug, glug, glug).

Once my grandfather got a salmon fly caught in the septum of his nose. It looked like a little rainbow toothbrush (Hitler) mustache. We laughed, and we laughed and we laughed. It was funny and not too painful. The doctor cut it off with some pliers or wire-cutters or  something. Anybody could have thought of that, dammit.

Another time he was impaled by a two-by-four.

I can't say it was his fault, but I expect he was drunk at the time, the same as the times when he lost some fingers.

Don't horse around with booze and saws, as the shop teacher on South Park would put it.


Is your family composed of rock trolls or hill trolls?  Does Darwinism apply to any of you or do you all safely ignore it like bugs bunny ignores physics?
 
2013-12-15 07:53:47 PM  
Losing the tip of a finger is not life threatening, as long as it's put on ice you have hours to get it reattached.  From the article it's hard to say how much was cut off. If it wasn't down to the bone it will grow back eventually anyway.
 
2013-12-15 07:54:28 PM  
school nurses actions of loving on amazing johnson during the school day defended by administration
 
2013-12-15 07:54:59 PM  

hardinparamedic: Depending on where you're at, a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic.


From the hospital.  If you call 911 and say you have a severed finger, I highly doubt they'll send Lifeflight out to you direct.  I'm not saying don't call 911 and ask what to do, just saying that automatically expecting an ambulance isn't warranted.
 
2013-12-15 07:57:05 PM  
after smashing tip in a door, amazing johnson becomes a little less amazing
 
2013-12-15 07:57:16 PM  

kwame: NutWrench: kwame: Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.

I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.

Nope. You're butthurt.

I'm in a van on a country road with a head cold. You and the rest of these idiots are nothing more than a diversion. Don't get too thrilled with yourself.


Sorry to cause you undue stress, but I neither like nor dislike you any more than I would any other poor squashed critter on the side of the road. My concern for your health (are you in fact insane, or just lonely?) is a social concern. On a personal level you mean nothing to me. This is almost certainly not the sort of attention that you're seeking, but it's all I'm willing to extend you.
 
2013-12-15 07:57:48 PM  
Just the tip?
 
2013-12-15 07:58:10 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: hardinparamedic: Depending on where you're at, a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic.

From the hospital.  If you call 911 and say you have a severed finger, I highly doubt they'll send Lifeflight out to you direct.  I'm not saying don't call 911 and ask what to do, just saying that automatically expecting an ambulance isn't warranted.


if you call 911 because your finger tip got smashed off I am pretty sure they'd send a squad.
 
2013-12-15 07:58:32 PM  

NutWrench: kwame: NutWrench: kwame: Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.

I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.

Nope. You're butthurt.

I'm in a van on a country road with a head cold. You and the rest of these idiots are nothing more than a diversion. Don't get too thrilled with yourself.

Sorry to cause you undue stress, but I neither like nor dislike you any more than I would any other poor squashed critter on the side of the road. My concern for your health (are you in fact insane, or just lonely?) is a social concern. On a personal level you mean nothing to me. This is almost certainly not the sort of attention that you're seeking, but it's all I'm willing to extend you.


So wait, I tell you I don't give a sh*t and you reply with well I care even less? That's f*cking adorable.
 
2013-12-15 08:00:58 PM  

kwame: NutWrench: kwame: NutWrench: kwame: Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.

I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.

Nope. You're butthurt.

I'm in a van on a country road with a head cold. You and the rest of these idiots are nothing more than a diversion. Don't get too thrilled with yourself.

Sorry to cause you undue stress, but I neither like nor dislike you any more than I would any other poor squashed critter on the side of the road. My concern for your health (are you in fact insane, or just lonely?) is a social concern. On a personal level you mean nothing to me. This is almost certainly not the sort of attention that you're seeking, but it's all I'm willing to extend you.

So wait, I tell you I don't give a sh*t and you reply with well I care even less? That's f*cking adorable.


that dudes an idiotic asshole, but can you at least agree minimally you'd assume that girls parents are idiots for naming her that? why give your child a name that could set them back in life?
 
2013-12-15 08:01:41 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: A link to the story that is NOT on Opposing Views for those who are opposed to Opposing Views.

/refuse to click on that crap


Thanks. That farking popup!! Even when I click perfectly on the x it takes me to the story linked underneath.
The person who set the page up needs a throat punch for that popup alone.
 
2013-12-15 08:01:56 PM  
Save the part on ice and call the parents. You can't presume to know whether the parents have the resources that can be drained by such an event. Thousands of dollars spent that they may not have.
 
2013-12-15 08:02:29 PM  
That poor child, how could they do that to her?

I mean, AMAZING? Do they want her to become a magician or a stripper?

/why not both?
//**fiesta music**
 
2013-12-15 08:03:43 PM  

NutWrench: kwame: NutWrench: kwame: Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.

I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.

Nope. You're butthurt.

I'm in a van on a country road with a head cold. You and the rest of these idiots are nothing more than a diversion. Don't get too thrilled with yourself.

Sorry to cause you undue stress, but I neither like nor dislike you any more than I would any other poor squashed critter on the side of the road. My concern for your health (are you in fact insane, or just lonely?) is a social concern. On a personal level you mean nothing to me. This is almost certainly not the sort of attention that you're seeking, but it's all I'm willing to extend you.


You named your kid something ridiculous or you are named something ridiculous and haven't changed it,  regardless, this is all the attention I'll waste on you.
 
2013-12-15 08:06:37 PM  
The amazing johnson debuts new trick making the tip disappear
 
2013-12-15 08:07:31 PM  
Re: this little girl's name, different ethnic and religious groups in American society have different naming conventions.

For example, in my ethnic background children were traditionally named after deceased relatives. This leads to a somewhat restricted palette from which to choose (for example, my father's patrilineal ancestry alternated between "David" and "Max" for five generations) but that doesn't imply that we're being ridiculous about names.

Whereas in other groups in American society, including but far from limited to African-American communities, kids' names are often chosen for uniqueness or relation to something important in the parents' lives (e.g., Unique, Nevaeh, Aquanetta). Okay, so you think that's a silly naming convention? You have that right. Just don't be surprised if people are taken aback when you mock groups of people based on this. Personally, I think names like Todd or Anthony or Bruce are a bit strange, to say nothing of Mitt or Johns or Trig, but you won't hear me calling out Anglo folks for giving their kids silly names.
 
2013-12-15 08:08:27 PM  

NickelP: kwame: NutWrench: kwame: NutWrench: kwame: Mugato: kwame: It's the assumption that you get to judge he quality of the name someone chooses for their child. Just shut up and eat your Cheetos.

I'm not judging anything. People can name their kids whatever they want. And I can laugh at whatever I want. No need to get all butthurt about it.

I'm not butthurt. You get to say really stupid sh*t and I get to point it out.

Nope. You're butthurt.

I'm in a van on a country road with a head cold. You and the rest of these idiots are nothing more than a diversion. Don't get too thrilled with yourself.

Sorry to cause you undue stress, but I neither like nor dislike you any more than I would any other poor squashed critter on the side of the road. My concern for your health (are you in fact insane, or just lonely?) is a social concern. On a personal level you mean nothing to me. This is almost certainly not the sort of attention that you're seeking, but it's all I'm willing to extend you.

So wait, I tell you I don't give a sh*t and you reply with well I care even less? That's f*cking adorable.

that dudes an idiotic asshole, but can you at least agree minimally you'd assume that girls parents are idiots for naming her that? why give your child a name that could set them back in life?


Why assume it would set her back?
 
2013-12-15 08:08:44 PM  

hardinparamedic: You have four hours, from the point the finger is detached, to get that child to a micro-vascular surgeon capable of performing re-implantation surgery. The loss of a finger, or part of a digit, is a time-critical emergency from which delaying can result in substantial life-long disability and cost to that child and his/her parents in rehabilitation and lost ability to perform a job later in life. This is a situation which would have been ideal for EMS intervention.


Exactly.  It's not the threat to her life (which is basically nonexistent), but the threat to the fingertip.
 
2013-12-15 08:09:31 PM  
Truth be told, that name will probably help her quickly identify small-minded and prejudiced people.
 
2013-12-15 08:09:35 PM  
Just the tip of the amazing johnson will get you in trouble
 
2013-12-15 08:11:18 PM  
This wouldn't be an issue of that piece of finger was shaped like a gun.
 
2013-12-15 08:11:22 PM  
How about Lewis Black? Would he count?
 
2013-12-15 08:11:59 PM  

kwame: Truth be told, that name will probably help her quickly identify small-minded and prejudiced people.


Just because it sounds ridiculous. To be honest, without a pic I'd have bet on white trash.
 
2013-12-15 08:12:51 PM  

kwame: Truth be told, that name will probably help her quickly identify small-minded and prejudiced people.


Especially the ones hiring her.
 
2013-12-15 08:12:55 PM  

whidbey: hardinparamedic: whidbey: I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.

Do you think shiathead is a good name for a baby? I'm just curious where you draw the line.

/actual name.

Protip: Paul Harvey and Rush Limbaugh are not viable sources of information.


What about Lewis Black? Would you consider him a viable source?
 
2013-12-15 08:13:14 PM  
The name you pick for your child is important and deserves a little more thought than the five minutes it took to come up with something that sounds like a prescription medication or a flavor of Jello.
 
2013-12-15 08:14:29 PM  
"This is our daughter, Fantastic Dick."
 
2013-12-15 08:16:06 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: "This is our daughter, Fantastic Dick."


Dick Fantastic is my porn name.
 
2013-12-15 08:16:45 PM  
It's not often that a school administrator doors something to make me want to see them get mauled by a bear more than a zero tolerance asshat, without doing any molesting.
 
2013-12-15 08:17:55 PM  
I hope in her day-to-day life she's called something like Mazie or Amy.


/or Basketball Jones.
 
2013-12-15 08:18:34 PM  

orclover: Is your family composed of rock trolls or hill trolls?  Does Darwinism apply to any of you or do you all safely ignore it like bugs bunny ignores physics?


It's Canada. It doesn't matter how you injure yourself, everything just freezes instantly and almost no one ever dies from amputations. That's why Canadians are so carefree.
 
2013-12-15 08:19:20 PM  
I have a vewy good fwiend in Wome called Amazing Johnson.
 
2013-12-15 08:22:43 PM  
Latesha Coleman arrived at the hospital where Amazing had been taken by her father to find him holding a bag, "and he had the tip of her pinky in the bag."

"Pinky", lol.
 
2013-12-15 08:25:24 PM  
She didn't lose the piece of her finger. She had it in a bag. Knew right where it was the whole time. Plus it got re-attached, so she didn't lose it in that sense, either.
 
2013-12-15 08:29:15 PM  
yeah 911 should have been called in this case.
 
2013-12-15 08:32:55 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-12-15 08:33:53 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: A link to the story that is NOT on Opposing Views for those who are opposed to Opposing Views.

/refuse to click on that crap


since opposing views always links to the original source i just click them, find the original source link and go on my way. and since i run ad block my being there doesn't do much if anything for them.
 
2013-12-15 08:34:34 PM  

Suede head: I'm sure there was a time when calling your kid "John" or "Alison" was hilarious too. It's arbitrary.


No there wasn't. No it's not.
 
2013-12-15 08:39:47 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Don't touch it, it'll regrow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneration_%28biology%29#Fingers


bullshiat. the tip of my thumb never grew back AND some of the reattached skin didn't take and fell off. also the fingernail split in a crush injury is still split and that was 5 years ago. it has however almost grown to where it's all attached to the nail bed.

given my experience i'd say the chance of her keeping what was reattached is less that 25%. unless they did some really nice micro surgery which i doubt for a black 6 y/o girl.
 
2013-12-15 08:40:46 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: "This is our daughter, Fantastic Dick."


www.schnittberichte.com

"Guard number one is a senior on Klan's mountain and aspires to be a research chemist. Welcome, please, Hung Well."

www.schnittberichte.com

"Guard number two is a real skating buff. A warm welcome for Long Wang!"

www.schnittberichte.com

"Traveling comes naturally to guard number three, as he's a licensed airplane pilot. Welcome, please, Enormous Genitals!"
 
2013-12-15 08:43:13 PM  
It's been like 6 years since I last worked as an EMD and let my certification lapse, but I believe a severed finger was an alpha response (lowest priority that required an ambulance reponse) according to the Priority Dispatch EMD Protocols.  It simply isn't an emergency that requires 911.  It requires someone to drive the person to the ER.  I didn't RTFA, but it seems the appropriate response is to call the kid's guardian and ask them what course of action they'd like to take.
 
2013-12-15 08:46:04 PM  

hardinparamedic: whidbey: I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.

Do you think shiathead is a good name for a baby? I'm just curious where you draw the line.

/actual name.


I was waiting for someone to pull that one out. I'll bet it was your friend's brother's mom's cousin you heard it from, too.

/hint: when everyone in the world "knows someone" with that name, it's probably an urban legend.
 
2013-12-15 08:47:12 PM  
When I was about 6 or 7, I shut my little sister's finger in the door and severed it. She would have been less than 2. Where we lived, there was no 911 and to call the ambulance it would have taken at least a half hour or more to arrive.

My mom freaked out and threw us all in the van and we drove to the hospital. I had to hold the severed end of my sister's finger in a bag of ice and keep a cloth on the rest of the finger on her hand to stop the bleeding. We must have done like 80mph to the hospital which was about 20 miles away.

When we got there all they ended up doing is reattaching the finger with a bandage and sent us home in less than an hour.

Her finger healed and she only had a small scar as a result. So while I understand the freakout, it's not a life threatening event and calling 911 would have only resulted in a huge bill for an ambulance and such.
 
2013-12-15 08:50:21 PM  
 
2013-12-15 08:50:47 PM  

NutWrench: The name you pick for your child is important and deserves a little more thought than the five minutes it took to come up with something that sounds like a prescription medication or a flavor of Jello.


You know what's more problematic than being named Amazing? Having a staff made up of three Ashleys, two Sarahs, and two Jessicas and trying to have a management discussion.
 
2013-12-15 08:54:57 PM  
Professor Bunsen Jude (The Science Dude) approves of her name

img.fark.net
 
2013-12-15 08:55:35 PM  
With all of the name and 911 stuff aside, slamming your pinky in a door hard enough to sever the tip must have hurt like a mofo. Poor little girl.
 
2013-12-15 09:00:37 PM  
They could have put some tussin on it. That cures everything that ails black people except white people.
 
2013-12-15 09:01:08 PM  

High Five State!: Please don't call 911 for stupid crap like this. 911 is for life threatining emergencies. Not because your dumb kid smashed the tip of a finger.


IT CAME OFF. IT WAS SEVERED.

911 or just drive, its still a medical emergency and she needed to got to a hospital.
 
2013-12-15 09:03:26 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: "This is our daughter, Fantastic Dick."


Whoawhoawhoa, OUR daughter?
 
2013-12-15 09:04:37 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Losing the tip of a finger is not life threatening, as long as it's put on ice you have hours to get it reattached.  From the article it's hard to say how much was cut off. If it wasn't down to the bone it will grow back eventually anyway.


mind if we cut the end of yours off as a test? if it grows back i'll apologize for what i'm thinking right now.

of course if you have some pig bladder  cells around all bets are off.
 
2013-12-15 09:04:54 PM  

MeanJean: High Five State!: Please don't call 911 for stupid crap like this. 911 is for life threatining emergencies. Not because your dumb kid smashed the tip of a finger.

IT CAME OFF. IT WAS SEVERED.

911 or just drive, its still a medical emergency and she needed to got to a hospital.


Yeah call her parents to drive her...the guy down the street having a MI needs the ambulance.
 
2013-12-15 09:09:12 PM  

Curious: ReapTheChaos: Losing the tip of a finger is not life threatening, as long as it's put on ice you have hours to get it reattached.  From the article it's hard to say how much was cut off. If it wasn't down to the bone it will grow back eventually anyway.

mind if we cut the end of yours off as a test? if it grows back i'll apologize for what i'm thinking right now.

of course if you have some pig bladder  cells around all bets are off.


Only works in kids. Like greenwood fractures.
 
2013-12-15 09:10:50 PM  
Again?
 
2013-12-15 09:11:04 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: A link to the story that is NOT on Opposing Views for those who are opposed to Opposing Views.

/refuse to click on that crap


Oh noes! You might catch republicanitus if you click!
 
2013-12-15 09:16:19 PM  

hardinparamedic: You have four hours, from the point the finger is detached, to get that child to a micro-vascular surgeon capable of performing re-implantation surgery. The loss of a finger, or part of a digit, is a time-critical emergency from which delaying can result in substantial life-long disability and cost to that child and his/her parents in rehabilitation and lost ability to perform a job later in life. This is a situation which would have been ideal for EMS intervention.

In reality, this child, barring a hospital being overloaded with critical patients, would be taken back immediately, and either assessed by surgery, or shipped by ground or air to a facility which has a microvascular team, if the digit was still viable.

So yeah. This was an emergency, just as much so as a guy in shock would be. First Aid doesn't qualify you to make a decision on whether or not the finger was viable, and every rational first aid instructor would tell you to call 911 in that instance.


First of all, the Debbie Downer part from the article:   "In a prepared statement, Dickinson I.S.D. confirms Amazing lost the tip of her finger and that her parents were called to take her to the hospital. Had they not been able to reach Amazing's parents or if it were a life-threatening incident, 911 would have been called."

It doesn't sound like the nurse made a medical decision, she just followed standard procedures for a non-life threatening medical condition.

It is not clear how much time elapsed between the child's injury and when her parents got her to the hospital.  Sure, calling 911 would have gotten the child there faster, but it is not immediately obvious that the delay resulted in a worse outcome.

The article is not clear on how much of the fingertip was avulsed.  If it was a chunk of skin and subcutaneous tissue without exposed bone, then the "reattachment" was likely not a revascularization - the soft tissue is sewn on to cover the wound bed, and serves as a biological band-aid to cover the site as the tip regenerates.  If the amputated part included anything more than a sliver of the tuft of the distal phalanx, then the school should have called 911 for immediate transport to the hostpial.

Enemabag Jones: Attaching fingertips really isn't that big of a deal, assuming the body part is kept on ice and it is attended to quickly.

Latesha Coleman arrived at the hospital where Amazing had been taken by her father to find him holding a bag, "and he had the tip of her pinky in the bag."

I really hope there was some ice in that bag.


DO NOT PUT THE AMPUTATED PART DIRECTLY ON ICE!  FREEZING THE PART MAY KILL IT!

Ideally, you should use a wad of gauze moistened with normal saline to make a bulky wrapping, put that in a sealed plastic bag, and then put the bag o' finger in another plastic bag that contains ice and saline to keep it cool.  The part is not receiving oxygen and nutrition because it no longer receives blood.  Chilling the part slows down the metabolic activity of its cells, so they will remain viable longer.

In a non-ideal situation, e.g. cutting off a finger with the saw in your garage, first yell for your wife or kids to call 911 right the hell away.  If you are alone, call 911 yourself immediately.  Do not stop to do anything else, in case you get lightheaded and pass out, delaying your treatment.  If you can still keep your shiat together, stick a rag, paper towel, whatever on the digit and manually squeeze it to slow the bleeding.  DO NOT APPLY A RUBBER BAND OR ANY OTHER TOURNIQUET.  EMS will determine if that is appropriate, and you should let the professional first responders do it.

If you can find the amputated part, you will need to preserve it.  Moisten a small cloth towel, or a wad of paper towels.  The wrapping doesn't have to sterile, but it shouldn't be filthy.  Saturate the wrapping, and loosely squeeze it once so that it is sopping wet. Water is not ideal, but allowing the part to desiccate is worse than exposing it to hypotonic solution. Wrap the finger in the moistened cloth/rag/whatever.  Put the wad o' finger in a Ziploc bag and seal the bag.  Wrap the finger in the moistened cloth/rag/whatever.   Put that bag in a larger Ziploc bag or any other sealed container (you will not get the container back from the hospital, btw) that contains some ice and water.  TELL THE EMS CREW THE BAG/CONTAINER HAS THE FINGER IN IT.

Get your ass to a hospital that has microvascular surgeons that do this kind of thing frequently.  Get there as soon as possible.  If you live in the boonies, you may get a helicopter ride to the big city's level 1 trauma center.

/hand surgeon
//or Holiday Inn Express customer
 
2013-12-15 09:17:26 PM  

hardinparamedic: Quantum Apostrophe: Exactly. I think not having a 3D printer per child is abuse.

I think exposing a child to what you 3D print on your makerbot 2 would be child abuse.


I guess it's Sunday, I can't expect good comebacks. Tired?
 
2013-12-15 09:18:01 PM  
Not so amazing now.
 
2013-12-15 09:23:08 PM  

doglover: Only works in kids. Like greenwood fractures.


my link was a 33 y/o jockey but when you read the whole article i'm not sure it truly regenerated. they used the pig bladder cells to make a scaffold for the tissue to grow onto. kind of like the ear grown on the back of a mouse. close but on OEM quality.
 
2013-12-15 09:25:45 PM  
Little Girl expresses her thoughts on this using her undamaged finger.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-15 09:27:26 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: hardinparamedic: Quantum Apostrophe: Exactly. I think not having a 3D printer per child is abuse.

I think exposing a child to what you 3D print on your makerbot 2 would be child abuse.

I guess it's Sunday, I can't expect good comebacks. Tired?


Seriously, what is it with you and 3D printers?
 
2013-12-15 09:27:39 PM  
You people are all farking idiots. Why should they call 911? 911 is for life-threatening emergencies. What are they gonna do, rush her to the hospital in the ambulance to fix her finger? Are you people farking retarded? Just DRIVE her to the hospital, probably would've saved them a several thousand dollar ambulance bill too.

Would you people call 911 over a farking papercut too? Give me a break
 
2013-12-15 09:27:48 PM  
Similar thing happened this year at the school I teach at.  Play ground has a large metal gate that is closed when kids are on the playground to keep them from running away I guess.  Anyway, as kids are leaving the playground someone pushes the gate open and another kid had a finger stuck in between the gate and the gate post.

Finger was cut off clean right below the nail, looked like it was cut off by a knife.  911 wasn't called, but the kid was taken to the hospital about 3 blocks away.  I don't think they reattached, just cleaned and stitched it up.

I think in this case the school did what was needed.  The parents would have complained about the ambulance bill if they had called 911.

The only real solution will be removing all doors from all schools.

/Think of the children
 
2013-12-15 09:31:21 PM  

Parthenogenetic: hardinparamedic: You have four hours, from the point the finger is detached, to get that child to a micro-vascular surgeon capable of performing re-implantation surgery. The loss of a finger, or part of a digit, is a time-critical emergency from which delaying can result in substantial life-long disability and cost to that child and his/her parents in rehabilitation and lost ability to perform a job later in life. This is a situation which would have been ideal for EMS intervention.

In reality, this child, barring a hospital being overloaded with critical patients, would be taken back immediately, and either assessed by surgery, or shipped by ground or air to a facility which has a microvascular team, if the digit was still viable.

So yeah. This was an emergency, just as much so as a guy in shock would be. First Aid doesn't qualify you to make a decision on whether or not the finger was viable, and every rational first aid instructor would tell you to call 911 in that instance.

First of all, the Debbie Downer part from the article:   "In a prepared statement, Dickinson I.S.D. confirms Amazing lost the tip of her finger and that her parents were called to take her to the hospital. Had they not been able to reach Amazing's parents or if it were a life-threatening incident, 911 would have been called."

It doesn't sound like the nurse made a medical decision, she just followed standard procedures for a non-life threatening medical condition.

It is not clear how much time elapsed between the child's injury and when her parents got her to the hospital.  Sure, calling 911 would have gotten the child there faster, but it is not immediately obvious that the delay resulted in a worse outcome.

The article is not clear on how much of the fingertip was avulsed.  If it was a chunk of skin and subcutaneous tissue without exposed bone, then the "reattachment" was likely not a revascularization - the soft tissue is sewn on to cover the wound bed, and serves as a biological band-aid to cover the site as the tip regenerates.  If the amputated part included anything more than a sliver of the tuft of the distal phalanx, then the school should have called 911 for immediate transport to the hostpial.

Enemabag Jones: Attaching fingertips really isn't that big of a deal, assuming the body part is kept on ice and it is attended to quickly.

Latesha Coleman arrived at the hospital where Amazing had been taken by her father to find him holding a bag, "and he had the tip of her pinky in the bag."

I really hope there was some ice in that bag.

DO NOT PUT THE AMPUTATED PART DIRECTLY ON ICE!  FREEZING THE PART MAY KILL IT!

Ideally, you should use a wad of gauze moistened with normal saline to make a bulky wrapping, put that in a sealed plastic bag, and then put the bag o' finger in another plastic bag that contains ice and saline to keep it cool.  The part is not receiving oxygen and nutrition because it no longer receives blood.  Chilling the part slows down the metabolic activity of its cells, so they will remain viable longer.

In a non-ideal situation, e.g. cutting off a finger with the saw in your garage, first yell for your wife or kids to call 911 right the hell away.  If you are alone, call 911 yourself immediately.  Do not stop to do anything else, in case you get lightheaded and pass out, delaying your treatment.  If you can still keep your shiat together, stick a rag, paper towel, whatever on the digit and manually squeeze it to slow the bleeding.  DO NOT APPLY A RUBBER BAND OR ANY OTHER TOURNIQUET.  EMS will determine if that is appropriate, and you should let the professional first responders do it.

If you can find the amputated part, you will need to preserve it.  Moisten a small cloth towel, or a wad of paper towels.  The wrapping doesn't have to sterile, but it shouldn't be filthy.  Saturate the wrapping, and loosely squeeze it once so that it is sopping wet. Water is not ideal, but allowing the part to desiccate is worse than exposing it to hypotonic solution. Wrap the finger in the moistened cloth/rag/whatever.  Put the wad o' finger in a Ziploc bag and seal the bag.  Wrap the finger in the moistened cloth/rag/whatever.   Put that bag in a larger Ziploc bag or any other sealed container (you will not get the container back from the hospital, btw) that contains some ice and water.  TELL THE EMS CREW THE BAG/CONTAINER HAS THE FINGER IN IT.

Get your ass to a hospital that has microvascular surgeons that do this kind of thing frequently.  Get there as soon as possible.  If you live in the boonies, you may get a helicopter ride to the big city's level 1 trauma center.

/hand surgeon
//or Holiday Inn Express customer


Wow, tons of good info here! One quick question, how much does it take for a little girl to go into shock? Could this have been life threatening?
 
2013-12-15 09:32:58 PM  
So the kid made it to the hospital with her father and the finger tip was reattached. Sounds like the nurse made the right call.
 
2013-12-15 09:33:12 PM  

hardinparamedic: Do you think shiathead is a good name for a baby?


Don't be ridiculous. Junior will suffice.
 
2013-12-15 09:33:12 PM  
this article has it all.  "Amazing Johnson", "Dickinson". "he had the tip of her pinky in the bag"
 
2013-12-15 09:34:16 PM  

kwame: Curious: kwame: As someone who talks to a few thousand college students every semester, I appreciate something different or unique.

While I've got you, though, choke on a dick you smug racist cocksucker.

even you can't think this girl's name is appropriate. Amazing Johnson --- for a girl. really?

I've known a lot of people with a lot of very unusual names. Once you get to know them and avoid being a judgmental prick, you forget how odd the name originally sounded.


Can we just establish that there is a huge difference between mocking the names of people we have never met and will never meet, and mocking people in real life because of their names? I have worked with lovely people who have names that made me feel gross when I said them. I got over it. When I hear of friends or coworkers giving their babies awful names, I cringe and shake my head privately (well, out of gossip range anyway).

Personally, I draw the line at crazy, effed up spellings, jokes, sex words, food/alcohol and consumer products. I won't blink at "Unique" for a girl, but "You-Neek" screams of maternal non-employment. See, "Sunny" is okay, but "Sunny Summers"? No, stop. Why would you do that? "Peaches" is a double whammy. Try calling your elderly boss "Peaches" every day (she loves to hear her name). True story. Likewise, "Delicious" may be beautiful, but it's not exactly of help when you're building your corporate career, you know? Doesn't need to be an ethnicity thing. The days of naming after family members being mostly over, babies are getting awful names in all quarters now.
 
2013-12-15 09:38:00 PM  

Mugato: Quantum Apostrophe: hardinparamedic: Quantum Apostrophe: Exactly. I think not having a 3D printer per child is abuse.

I think exposing a child to what you 3D print on your makerbot 2 would be child abuse.

I guess it's Sunday, I can't expect good comebacks. Tired?

Seriously, what is it with you and 3D printers?


I question the exaggerated claims made for them by people with more marketing than engineering knowledge. That's all.
 
2013-12-15 09:38:15 PM  
So let me see if I understand how our public schools work.  Someone correct me if I am wrong.

If your child draws a gun, bites a pop tart into a gun shape, says the word gun, or if someone simply decides he's a threat, he will be expelled.

If your child kisses another student, he is a sex offender and will be expelled.

In later years your child my be offered personal tutoring in sex education.

if your child hurts him or her self, it's nothing.  Don't worry yourself.  The lost of body parts is a normal part of education.
 
2013-12-15 09:42:30 PM  

E5bie: I have worked with lovely people who have names that made me feel gross when I said them. I got over it.


Moist VanGellica.

Ji`Haad Il`Jabella

Lovely Johnson

Vaccine Duodinal

Candy Krushinka

Mo'Fuggly

/yes, these are real names.
 
2013-12-15 09:45:09 PM  
1. Messy but in no way an emergency. If you phone up an ambulance for a relatively minor accident then that's one less ambulance available if someone in the area has a heart attack/serious car accident/etc.

2. Not everyone has coverage for amuulance rides (does the ACA fix this) and wouldn't appreciate an extra $1000 bill for a broken finger.
 
2013-12-15 09:46:42 PM  

Curious: doglover: Only works in kids. Like greenwood fractures.

my link was a 33 y/o jockey but when you read the whole article i'm not sure it truly regenerated. they used the pig bladder cells to make a scaffold for the tissue to grow onto. kind of like the ear grown on the back of a mouse. close but on OEM quality.


I meant the natural growback.

I knew guys and girls who lost their fingertips on the cutting board. Some were wee, and their fingers are fine now. Some were not so wee, and they can only count to 9.95
 
2013-12-15 09:46:56 PM  
www.obscureinternet.com
 
2013-12-15 10:00:42 PM  
It was always fun in high school to hear the principal call "Anita Mann" over the intercom.

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2013-12-15 10:05:57 PM  

whidbey: happydude45: kwame: majestic: Dear black people:

Cut it out with the stupid names.

Sincerely,

The World

As someone who talks to a few thousand college students every semester, I appreciate something different or unique.

While I've got you, though, choke on a dick you smug racist cocksucker.

Nothing racist about pointing out their proclivity for idiotic made-up names.

I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.


Do you know what "hypocrite" means?

You should look it up, because I'm pretty sure you are treading all over that territory.
 
2013-12-15 10:08:33 PM  
Amazing Johnson

Meet

Stupifyin' Jones

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2013-12-15 10:09:19 PM  

DrVoice: It was always fun in high school to hear the principal call "Anita Mann" over the intercom.

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I went to school with a girl named Mary Christmas. Fox News told me someone declared war on her.
 
2013-12-15 10:11:15 PM  
Are 911 operators incapable of determining whether an ambulance needs to be sent out or not?

In Australia, emergency services operators are trained to be able to make these determinations and advise callers on the appropriate course of action. This includes non-life threatening events, like severing a finger.
 
2013-12-15 10:13:29 PM  
"...and at the end of the day, Mister Hugh Jafarkin Johnson, if that IS your real name, you knew what was up when you chose to send your kid to Hockey School. Now...are we done? Can I go back to doing my job? Yes? Wonderful. Get back on the ice, kid."
 
2013-12-15 10:13:46 PM  
Compare this to the story about those hysteric asshats in Colorado who tried to arrest a little kid and declare him a lifetime registered sex offender just for kissing a girl, and know one of the chief reasons why our country sucks so.god.damn.f*cking.much.
 
2013-12-15 10:14:49 PM  
You know who else lost a piece of a finger and didn't call 911?
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2013-12-15 10:29:55 PM  

99.998er: With all of the name and 911 stuff aside, slamming your pinky in a door hard enough to sever the tip must have hurt like a mofo. Poor little girl.


Damn. Makes my nuts hurt just to think about it.
 
2013-12-15 10:32:46 PM  

phrawgh: You know who else lost a piece of a finger and didn't call 911?
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It's darryl hannah. Why do I get the idea that a table of elderly korean men, betting, and a knife were involved?
 
2013-12-15 10:32:46 PM  

Kahabut: whidbey: happydude45: kwame: majestic: Dear black people:

Cut it out with the stupid names.

Sincerely,

The World

As someone who talks to a few thousand college students every semester, I appreciate something different or unique.

While I've got you, though, choke on a dick you smug racist cocksucker.

Nothing racist about pointing out their proclivity for idiotic made-up names.

I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.

Do you know what "hypocrite" means?

You should look it up, because I'm pretty sure you are treading all over that territory.


I love it when other posters make vague fingerwagging type comments like this.
 
2013-12-15 10:36:40 PM  

phrawgh: You know who else lost a piece of a finger and didn't call 911?
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http://mentalfloss.com/article/21263/quick-10-10-famous-spare-parts- or -missing-parts

http://izismile.com/2010/06/16/celebrities_and_their_physical_defect s_ 17_pics.html


odd.

/not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2013-12-15 10:38:37 PM  

wambu: 99.998er: With all of the name and 911 stuff aside, slamming your pinky in a door hard enough to sever the tip must have hurt like a mofo. Poor little girl.

Damn. Makes my nuts hurt just to think about it.


Yes, but just be thankful your name isn't Amazing Johnson.
/just kidding
 
2013-12-15 10:38:55 PM  

Fury Pilot: Are 911 operators incapable of determining whether an ambulance needs to be sent out or not?

In Australia, emergency services operators are trained to be able to make these determinations and advise callers on the appropriate course of action. This includes non-life threatening events, like severing a finger.


The operator who handled the call for Billy Mays was pretty determined. She was instructing them on how to start CPR while two witnesses were describing him as long dead. Maybe there is a special 911 for celebrities that is willing to fight to save your ass, while the others hang up in the case of foul language or general disinterest in your medical predicament.
 
2013-12-15 10:47:14 PM  
Really?? No one said it??

I have an Amazing Johnson for ya. .
 
2013-12-15 10:49:29 PM  

wambu: phrawgh: You know who else lost a piece of a finger and didn't call 911?
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http://mentalfloss.com/article/21263/quick-10-10-famous-spare-parts- or -missing-parts

http://izismile.com/2010/06/16/celebrities_and_their_physical_defect s_ 17_pics.html


odd.

/not that there's anything wrong with that.


Quit yer belly-achin'
sattlers.org
 
2013-12-15 10:50:53 PM  

whidbey: Kahabut: whidbey: happydude45: kwame: majestic: Dear black people:

Cut it out with the stupid names.

Sincerely,

The World

As someone who talks to a few thousand college students every semester, I appreciate something different or unique.

While I've got you, though, choke on a dick you smug racist cocksucker.

Nothing racist about pointing out their proclivity for idiotic made-up names.

I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.

Do you know what "hypocrite" means?

You should look it up, because I'm pretty sure you are treading all over that territory.

I love it when other posters make vague fingerwagging type comments like this.


Oh kiddo, nothing I said was even remotely vague.
 
2013-12-15 10:57:36 PM  

Fury Pilot: Are 911 operators incapable of determining whether an ambulance needs to be sent out or not?

In Australia, emergency services operators are trained to be able to make these determinations and advise callers on the appropriate course of action. This includes non-life threatening events, like severing a finger.


FWIW I've actually had to call 000 in Australia, and after I provided the relevant injury details they simply asked *me* whether they needed to send an ambulance or not.

/they're very unpleasant
 
2013-12-15 10:57:56 PM  
When I was 5, I almost severed the entire first joint of my pink finger doing some really poorly planned arts and crafts at kindergarten. Did they panic the fark out and call 911? No. They got applied first aid, got the nurse to stabilize it a bit, and had my parents come pick me up to get me to a doctor. was fine, although I have a bit of a frankenstein pinky now. Calling an ambulance just because a kid loses a bit of skin off the very tip of a finger, not even anywhere near the bone or joint, would be wildly irresponsible.

her parents were called to take her to the hospital. Had they not been able to reach Amazing's parents or if it were a life-threatening incident, 911 would have been called

OK then.

/also, Amazing Johnson is a great name for a gay pr0nstar
 
2013-12-15 10:58:39 PM  

Curious: ReapTheChaos: Losing the tip of a finger is not life threatening, as long as it's put on ice you have hours to get it reattached.  From the article it's hard to say how much was cut off. If it wasn't down to the bone it will grow back eventually anyway.

mind if we cut the end of yours off as a test? if it grows back i'll apologize for what i'm thinking right now.

of course if you have some pig bladder  cells around all bets are off.


I've actually done it a few times in my life, luckily never lost any actual bone, and it grew back just fine. You can't be a machinist for over 20 years and not take a little damage to your fingers.
 
2013-12-15 10:58:49 PM  
It's gonna be great when this chick is working at Checkers when she's 35... "Hey uh, Amazing, yeah when you're done scraping the grease trap I'm gonna need you to mop the women's bathroom, that homeless woman from behind Walgreens took a dump on the floor again... Thanks Amazing."
 
2013-12-15 11:00:04 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Fury Pilot: Are 911 operators incapable of determining whether an ambulance needs to be sent out or not?

In Australia, emergency services operators are trained to be able to make these determinations and advise callers on the appropriate course of action. This includes non-life threatening events, like severing a finger.

FWIW I've actually had to call 000 in Australia, and after I provided the relevant injury details they simply asked *me* whether they needed to send an ambulance or not.

/they're very unpleasant


Never intended to imply that all operators are good at their job. :)
 
2013-12-15 11:00:44 PM  

whidbey: hardinparamedic: whidbey: I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.

Do you think shiathead is a good name for a baby? I'm just curious where you draw the line.

/actual name.

Protip: Paul Harvey and Rush Limbaugh are not viable sources of information.


Would you accept my Special Education law professor who had seen the birth certificate?
 
2013-12-15 11:04:26 PM  

Kahabut: whidbey: Kahabut: whidbey: happydude45: kwame: majestic: Dear black people:

Cut it out with the stupid names.

Sincerely,

The World

As someone who talks to a few thousand college students every semester, I appreciate something different or unique.

While I've got you, though, choke on a dick you smug racist cocksucker.

Nothing racist about pointing out their proclivity for idiotic made-up names.

I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.

Do you know what "hypocrite" means?

You should look it up, because I'm pretty sure you are treading all over that territory.

I love it when other posters make vague fingerwagging type comments like this.

Oh kiddo, nothing I said was even remotely vague.


I love it when other posters play smug guessing games where they don't actually make a point, but continue to make even more cryptic passive-aggressive comments.
 
2013-12-15 11:11:48 PM  
Also, her name is actually Kayesha, they just called her amazing when her dad showed up
 
2013-12-15 11:15:29 PM  
Damned if you do and damned if you doesn't.  As long as you can figure out a way to get your cathartic post out there to make you feel better, I guess it doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of difference.  It's not like your opinion was going to suddenly go and do some good or make a change for the better anyways.
 
2013-12-15 11:23:46 PM  
My kid goes to this school district. I am a registered nurse. Calling 911 for such a minor injury would have been misuse of the emergency system. The nurse is trained to recognize life-threatening injuries. If this had happened to my child at home I would not have called 911. I would have been pissed if they called it from the school because I don't want the >$1000 bill the ambulance would charge me, and I wouldn't a 'bus tied up for a true emergency. This sounds like somebody just wants to get paid. School acted appropriately.
 
2013-12-15 11:30:06 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Curious: ReapTheChaos: Losing the tip of a finger is not life threatening, as long as it's put on ice you have hours to get it reattached.  From the article it's hard to say how much was cut off. If it wasn't down to the bone it will grow back eventually anyway.

mind if we cut the end of yours off as a test? if it grows back i'll apologize for what i'm thinking right now.

of course if you have some pig bladder  cells around all bets are off.

I've actually done it a few times in my life, luckily never lost any actual bone, and it grew back just fine. You can't be a machinist for over 20 years and not take a little damage to your fingers.


A little damage yes.

Tips of your fingers gone? That's more than a little damage. Turn the spindle off next time!
 
2013-12-15 11:32:50 PM  
whidbey:

Protip: Paul Harvey and Rush Limbaugh are not viable sources of information.

Paul Harvey has no credibility because he's dead.
 
2013-12-15 11:34:25 PM  

ReapTheChaos: I've actually done it a few times in my life, luckily never lost any actual bone, and it grew back just fine. You can't be a machinist for over 20 years and not take a little damage to your fingers.


i put my left thumb in a table saw. it did get some bone and about a third of the nail. nothing grew back.

but as you say you can't work around machinery year in and year out without a few nicks and stories.
 
2013-12-15 11:40:54 PM  

cmb53208: whidbey:

Protip: Paul Harvey and Rush Limbaugh are not viable sources of information.

Paul Harvey has no credibility because he's dead.


It would be nice if he and Rush could be on the same page.
 
2013-12-15 11:44:28 PM  
Did y'all miss the part about her being "loved on" by the nurse? Oops.
 
2013-12-15 11:47:59 PM  
My husband's aunt's son had a seizure at daycare and couldn't be woken up.  The daycare called his mom to come get him.  Apparently not being able to wake an unconscious child after a seizure wasn't considered 'an emergency'.  She pulled him out of the daycare immediately.

Unfortunately, this isn't a shocking story at all.
 
2013-12-15 11:53:25 PM  
Fingertips! Fingertips. Fingertiiips...

I hear the wind blow.
I hear the wind blow...
It seems to say, "Hello, hello."
"I'm the one who loves you so~"
 
2013-12-15 11:58:35 PM  
You named your kid "Amazing Johnson".  In this single act, you ensured that no one will give a fig about her problems.
 
2013-12-16 12:00:59 AM  

jmr61: What kind of dumbass names their kid Amazing?

Idiots.


OK you win.  Everyone else is an idiot.
 
2013-12-16 12:02:02 AM  

bborchar: My husband's aunt's son had a seizure at daycare and couldn't be woken up.  The daycare called his mom to come get him.  Apparently not being able to wake an unconscious child after a seizure wasn't considered 'an emergency'.  She pulled him out of the daycare immediately.

Unfortunately, this isn't a shocking story at all.


Your husband's cousin? Isn't that easier?
 
2013-12-16 12:04:14 AM  

Maggie_Luna: bborchar: My husband's aunt's son had a seizure at daycare and couldn't be woken up.  The daycare called his mom to come get him.  Apparently not being able to wake an unconscious child after a seizure wasn't considered 'an emergency'.  She pulled him out of the daycare immediately.

Unfortunately, this isn't a shocking story at all.

Your husband's cousin? Isn't that easier?


But how else is that poor boy supposed to remember that she's his mother's sister's son's wife?
 
2013-12-16 12:04:50 AM  

Maggie_Luna: bborchar: My husband's aunt's son had a seizure at daycare and couldn't be woken up.  The daycare called his mom to come get him.  Apparently not being able to wake an unconscious child after a seizure wasn't considered 'an emergency'.  She pulled him out of the daycare immediately.

Unfortunately, this isn't a shocking story at all.

Your husband's cousin? Isn't that easier?


Cousin-in-law (or just cousin) is even easier... Might as well say husband's dad's sister's daughter's brother.
 
2013-12-16 12:05:15 AM  

bborchar: My husband's aunt's son had a seizure at daycare and couldn't be woken up.  The daycare called his mom to come get him.  Apparently not being able to wake an unconscious child after a seizure wasn't considered 'an emergency'.  She pulled him out of the daycare immediately.

Unfortunately, this isn't a shocking story at all.


Okay, that is orders of magnitude worse than a severed fingertip.
Did they even time the seizure? Did the kid have a seizure disorder and was the daycare aware of it?
 
2013-12-16 12:06:53 AM  

E5bie: Did they even time the seizure?


Yeah. He might have broken a record or something.
 
2013-12-16 12:07:45 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: E5bie: Did they even time the seizure?

Yeah. He might have broken a record or something.


Especially if he seized out in the music room
 
2013-12-16 12:11:27 AM  
Maybe they thought the child was twerking.
 
2013-12-16 12:13:20 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Might as well say husband's dad's sister's daughter's brother.


i259.photobucket.com

What does that make us?
 
2013-12-16 12:13:25 AM  

hardinparamedic: a severed finger will get you a helicopter ride, Satanic


This is one of those phrases that just needs to be repeated.
 
2013-12-16 12:14:50 AM  

brantgoose: Once my grandfather got a salmon fly caught in the septum of his nose.


Did Chevy Chase beat the piss out of him?
 
2013-12-16 12:14:55 AM  

bborchar: My husband's aunt's son had a seizure at daycare and couldn't be woken up.  The daycare called his mom to come get him.  Apparently not being able to wake an unconscious child after a seizure wasn't considered 'an emergency'.  She pulled him out of the daycare immediately.

Unfortunately, this isn't a shocking story at all.


That's nothing! My cousin's best friend's sister's boyfriend's grandpa had a seizure and his head exploded Scanners-style
 
2013-12-16 12:24:39 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: cmb53208: whidbey:

Protip: Paul Harvey and Rush Limbaugh are not viable sources of information.

Paul Harvey has no credibility because he's dead.

It would be nice if he and Rush could be on the same page.


It would be a "good day."
 
2013-12-16 12:32:21 AM  

Parthenogenetic: hardinparamedic: You have four hours, from the point the finger is detached, to get that child to a micro-vascular surgeon capable of performing re-implantation surgery. The loss of a finger, or part of a digit, is a time-critical emergency from which delaying can result in substantial life-long disability and cost to that child and his/her parents in rehabilitation and lost ability to perform a job later in life. This is a situation which would have been ideal for EMS intervention.

In reality, this child, barring a hospital being overloaded with critical patients, would be taken back immediately, and either assessed by surgery, or shipped by ground or air to a facility which has a microvascular team, if the digit was still viable.

So yeah. This was an emergency, just as much so as a guy in shock would be. First Aid doesn't qualify you to make a decision on whether or not the finger was viable, and every rational first aid instructor would tell you to call 911 in that instance.

First of all, the Debbie Downer part from the article:   "In a prepared statement, Dickinson I.S.D. confirms Amazing lost the tip of her finger and that her parents were called to take her to the hospital. Had they not been able to reach Amazing's parents or if it were a life-threatening incident, 911 would have been called."

It doesn't sound like the nurse made a medical decision, she just followed standard procedures for a non-life threatening medical condition.

It is not clear how much time elapsed between the child's injury and when her parents got her to the hospital.  Sure, calling 911 would have gotten the child there faster, but it is not immediately obvious that the delay resulted in a worse outcome.

The article is not clear on how much of the fingertip was avulsed.  If it was a chunk of skin and subcutaneous tissue without exposed bone, then the "reattachment" was likely not a revascularization - the soft tissue is sewn on to cover the wound bed, and serves as a biological band-aid to cover the site as the tip regenerates.  If the amputated part included anything more than a sliver of the tuft of the distal phalanx, then the school should have called 911 for immediate transport to the hostpial.

Enemabag Jones: Attaching fingertips really isn't that big of a deal, assuming the body part is kept on ice and it is attended to quickly.

Latesha Coleman arrived at the hospital where Amazing had been taken by her father to find him holding a bag, "and he had the tip of her pinky in the bag."

I really hope there was some ice in that bag.

DO NOT PUT THE AMPUTATED PART DIRECTLY ON ICE!  FREEZING THE PART MAY KILL IT!

Ideally, you should use a wad of gauze moistened with normal saline to make a bulky wrapping, put that in a sealed plastic bag, and then put the bag o' finger in another plastic bag that contains ice and saline to keep it cool.  The part is not receiving oxygen and nutrition because it no longer receives blood.  Chilling the part slows down the metabolic activity of its cells, so they will remain viable longer.

In a non-ideal situation, e.g. cutting off a finger with the saw in your garage, first yell for your wife or kids to call 911 right the hell away.  If you are alone, call 911 yourself immediately.  Do not stop to do anything else, in case you get lightheaded and pass out, delaying your treatment.  If you can still keep your shiat together, stick a rag, paper towel, whatever on the digit and manually squeeze it to slow the bleeding.  DO NOT APPLY A RUBBER BAND OR ANY OTHER TOURNIQUET.  EMS will determine if that is appropriate, and you should let the professional first responders do it.

If you can find the amputated part, you will need to preserve it.  Moisten a small cloth towel, or a wad of paper towels.  The wrapping doesn't have to sterile, but it shouldn't be filthy.  Saturate the wrapping, and loosely squeeze it once so that it is sopping wet. Water is not ideal, but allowing the part to desiccate is worse than exposing it to hypotonic solution. Wrap the finger in the moistened cloth/rag/whatever.  Put the wad o' finger in a Ziploc bag and seal the bag.  Wrap the finger in the moistened cloth/rag/whatever.   Put that bag in a larger Ziploc bag or any other sealed container (you will not get the container back from the hospital, btw) that contains some ice and water.  TELL THE EMS CREW THE BAG/CONTAINER HAS THE FINGER IN IT.

Get your ass to a hospital that has microvascular surgeons that do this kind of thing frequently.  Get there as soon as possible.  If you live in the boonies, you may get a helicopter ride to the big city's level 1 trauma center.

/hand surgeon
//or Holiday Inn Express customer


Instead of putting it on ice, they should've touched it with a hot wire. It would've beaten spending the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS F*CKING COUCH!
 
2013-12-16 12:43:03 AM  

Mega Steve: bborchar: My husband's aunt's son had a seizure at daycare and couldn't be woken up.  The daycare called his mom to come get him.  Apparently not being able to wake an unconscious child after a seizure wasn't considered 'an emergency'.  She pulled him out of the daycare immediately.

Unfortunately, this isn't a shocking story at all.

That's nothing! My cousin's best friend's sister's boyfriend's grandpa had a seizure and his head exploded Scanners-style


LOL. The only time I have convos like that are when people come up to me and want to tell me about this great product their sister's husband's mother's cousin twice removed by kinship used that CURED their psoriasis. She has completely clear skin now!

/fark you, treatment-resistant, "full-blown" psoriasis
//I'm a child of the 80s. I almost shiat a brick when the doc called it full blown. I said, never ever again use that phrase unless you're talking about AIDS, dude.
 
2013-12-16 12:44:43 AM  

whidbey: HURR ABOLISH THE DEPT OF EDUCATION
STARVE THE BEAST STARVE THE BEAST STARVE THE BEAST!


hurr..what does a federal bureaucracy has to do with this incident? This school is run by the state, not the feds.
 
2013-12-16 12:54:11 AM  

whidbey: Protip: Paul Harvey and Rush Limbaugh are not viable sources of information.


Protip: That is a name I've actually seen in real life. Not in rush limbaugh.

Also: DaMiracleBra and Delastone.
 
2013-12-16 01:06:17 AM  

High Five State!: Please don't call 911 for stupid crap like this. 911 is for life threatining emergencies. Not because your dumb kid smashed the tip of a finger.


Not just smashed the finger, but crushed the finger to the point that the tip was amputated beneath the nail. This type of injury could very well cause enough bleeding to send a child into shock.
 
2013-12-16 01:14:43 AM  

Gyrfalcon: whidbey: hardinparamedic: whidbey: I love it when socially conservative white people think they qualify as some kind of Negro Social Fashion Police for all those poor stupid black people out there buying flatscreens with hard earned tax dollars.

Do you think shiathead is a good name for a baby? I'm just curious where you draw the line.

/actual name.

Protip: Paul Harvey and Rush Limbaugh are not viable sources of information.

Would you accept my Special Education law professor who had seen the birth certificate?


3 little CSB's:
When my grandma worked for the school superintendent at Memphis City Schools way back in the 50's she sat in on a class that had a student named pajamas (pronounced paj-uhmus). The little girl said her mom got the name from the Sears catalogue.

My dad is a teacher in south Alabama, one of his coworkers has two children named Dasani and Evian. After the bottled water.

An old roommate of mine was going through pharmacy school at UT Memphis and working as a pharmacy tech in the meantime. He had to fill a prescription for a toddler named Urine (rhymed with Irene). The mother said she saw the word on a poster in the doctors office and thought it was the prettiest name she'd ever heard.
 
2013-12-16 01:19:14 AM  

haolegirl: Parthenogenetic: hardinparamedic: You have four hours, from the point the finger is detached, to get that child to a micro-vascular surgeon capable of performing re-implantation surgery. The loss of a finger, or part of a digit, is a time-critical emergency from which delaying can result in substantial life-long disability and cost to that child and his/her parents in rehabilitation and lost ability to perform a job later in life. This is a situation which would have been ideal for EMS intervention.

In reality, this child, barring a hospital being overloaded with critical patients, would be taken back immediately, and either assessed by surgery, or shipped by ground or air to a facility which has a microvascular team, if the digit was still viable.

So yeah. This was an emergency, just as much so as a guy in shock would be. First Aid doesn't qualify you to make a decision on whether or not the finger was viable, and every rational first aid instructor would tell you to call 911 in that instance.

First of all, the Debbie Downer part from the article:   "In a prepared statement, Dickinson I.S.D. confirms Amazing lost the tip of her finger and that her parents were called to take her to the hospital. Had they not been able to reach Amazing's parents or if it were a life-threatening incident, 911 would have been called."

It doesn't sound like the nurse made a medical decision, she just followed standard procedures for a non-life threatening medical condition.

It is not clear how much time elapsed between the child's injury and when her parents got her to the hospital.  Sure, calling 911 would have gotten the child there faster, but it is not immediately obvious that the delay resulted in a worse outcome.

The article is not clear on how much of the fingertip was avulsed.  If it was a chunk of skin and subcutaneous tissue without exposed bone, then the "reattachment" was likely not a revascularization - the soft tissue is sewn on to cover the wound bed, and serves as ...

"Wow, tons of good info here! One quick question, how much does it take for a little girl to go into shock? Could this have been life threatening



People tend to be confused about 'shock'. The 'shock' you are describing is an acute psychological condition due to trauma, It is not a medical problem. Now there are four types of medical 'shock' that are all life threatening, it can not be caused by the reaction to an injury.

Hypovolemic shock: When you lose significant volume of blood or are severely dehydrated, you may not have enough blood perfusion to get oxygen to the needed vital organs.

Anaphylatic shock: Due to massive histamine release in an allergic reaction, the body goes into full protective mode and shunts blood to the core. Histamine also causes the blood vessels to leak into the extravascular space. You can lose blood pressure, and not adaquately perfuse the vital organs.

Neurogenic Shock: Due to a head injury, your brain is not regulating your blood pressure properly, and you lose perfusion to the vital organs.

Cardiogenic shock: Due to heart pumping failure you are not perfusing the vital organs.

All shock conditions can be fatal; however, this is never caused by a partial or full amputation of a finger.

Going into 'shock' after an injury that is not life-threatening, it not a life threatening condition unless you happen to walk into traffic or jump off a building due to dissociative fugue.

Also, amputation of a distal tip of the extremity is not in need of 911. Even if it is an open fracture (bone exposed) 911 should be optional if someone with some medical training is available to stabilize the injury and transportation is available to a hospital. Overuse of 911 is one of the numerous reasons that our medical system is going broke.
 
2013-12-16 01:29:39 AM  

glmorrs1: High Five State!: Please don't call 911 for stupid crap like this. 911 is for life threatining emergencies. Not because your dumb kid smashed the tip of a finger.

Not just smashed the finger, but crushed the finger to the point that the tip was amputated beneath the nail. This type of injury could very well cause enough bleeding to send a child into shock.


Yeah!?! No!
She would have been amazingly fine. Probably would have got a cool nickname out of it.
/lucky 4 fingers
 
2013-12-16 01:36:14 AM  

Cletusostomy: Also, amputation of a distal tip of the extremity is not in need of 911. Even if it is an open fracture (bone exposed) 911 should be optional if someone with some medical training is available to stabilize the injury and transportation is available to a hospital. Overuse of 911 is one of the numerous reasons that our medical system is going broke.


I'm going to disagree with you on the bolded part. Improper use of the 911 resources in a city, as well as a failure of the EMS profession in the United States to adopt greater educational standards and enter into the preventive and community healthcare aspects of healthcare (See Fort Worth for how effective this can be) is one of the reasons we're going broke in the United States.

I have friends who are in Canada, the UK, Australia and New Zealand who think we haven't changed since the 70s.
 
2013-12-16 01:38:50 AM  
These are probably the parents/children I took care of last night. Called 911 for a cough.

/Dr.Office has a copay
//ER is free
///CSB
 
2013-12-16 01:39:28 AM  
I cannot help but think that the majority of you who purport that this was not an emergency & the school was correct, plus ambulances cost so much...would be the biggest little biatches crying on 911 if this happened to you. Not all mind you, some of you would no doubt be too intoxicated to really feel it.

SMH
 
2013-12-16 02:10:03 AM  
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RIP

/Does it make anyone else sad that Fark is full of humorless trolls.
//I guess it's a little funny that they mainly stick to trolling themselves.
 
2013-12-16 02:13:05 AM  
But a six year-old boy kissing a girl... CALL DA POLICE!!!!
 
2013-12-16 02:17:41 AM  
With a nurse being there, I can see why they might not have called 911 for a non-life threatening emergency. I personally would have called non-emergency 911 (this is a 10 digit phone number, attached to 911 but not for emergency use) just to confirm that the wound was handled correctly and to have transport instructions in place. Like which hospital might be closed to trauma so go instead to hospital cross town, that sort of thing.

A lot of people don't know about the non-emergency 911... I actually had to use this once for a real emergency (calling an ambulance for a guy who collapsed on the street) when my cell phone was unable to call 911. I know, I know, this should not be technically possible. But the awful Huawei phone on Cricket Wireless, when I dialed 911, the call went to voice mail. Like 10 times. Because the non-emergency number was a fully formed phone number, it was able to get through to them, and the were able to bridge the call to the 911 network to get an ambulance out.

/csb
 
2013-12-16 03:29:12 AM  

Chicken Soda: whidbey: HURR ABOLISH THE DEPT OF EDUCATION
STARVE THE BEAST STARVE THE BEAST STARVE THE BEAST!

hurr..what does a federal bureaucracy has to do with this incident? This school is run by the state, not the feds.


Everything is run by the Feds. And you know what? They're taking your hard earned tax dollars and giving it to poor folks to buy flatscreen TVs. And then they vote Democrat in exchange, amirite?
 
2013-12-16 07:20:34 AM  

High Five State!: //ER is free


If you live in Canada maybe.
 
2013-12-16 07:46:12 AM  

Fury Pilot: Are 911 operators incapable of determining whether an ambulance needs to be sent out or not?

In Australia, emergency services operators are trained to be able to make these determinations and advise callers on the appropriate course of action. This includes non-life threatening events, like severing a finger.


In the US, if someone requests an ambulance, they get an ambulance.  You can not refuse a request for service.  There are circumstances where you can suggest there is another course of action, but if they still wanted an ambulance, they got one.
 
2013-12-16 09:27:06 AM  

EViLTeW: Fury Pilot: Are 911 operators incapable of determining whether an ambulance needs to be sent out or not?

In Australia, emergency services operators are trained to be able to make these determinations and advise callers on the appropriate course of action. This includes non-life threatening events, like severing a finger.

In the US, if someone requests an ambulance, they get an ambulance.  You can not refuse a request for service.  There are circumstances where you can suggest there is another course of action, but if they still wanted an ambulance, they got one.


Same thing here in Canada. You call 911 and ask for an ambulance, you get an ambulance sent to you. Doesn't matter if you called because you can't find your contact lenses or you have a blister on your thumb from taking a microwave dinner out of the microwave. It may not come with its lights and sirens, but one will be sent.
 
2013-12-16 09:27:25 AM  

High Five State!: glmorrs1: High Five State!: Please don't call 911 for stupid crap like this. 911 is for life threatining emergencies. Not because your dumb kid smashed the tip of a finger.

Not just smashed the finger, but crushed the finger to the point that the tip was amputated beneath the nail. This type of injury could very well cause enough bleeding to send a child into shock.

Yeah!?! No!
She would have been amazingly fine. Probably would have got a cool nickname out of it.
/lucky 4 fingers


If I'm remembering my training right (and I am), children have proportionally less volume of blood than adults. What could be a minor injury to a grown person could be severe enough to a child to cause hypovolemic shock.
 
2013-12-16 09:33:15 AM  

glmorrs1: High Five State!: glmorrs1: High Five State!: Please don't call 911 for stupid crap like this. 911 is for life threatining emergencies. Not because your dumb kid smashed the tip of a finger.

Not just smashed the finger, but crushed the finger to the point that the tip was amputated beneath the nail. This type of injury could very well cause enough bleeding to send a child into shock.

Yeah!?! No!
She would have been amazingly fine. Probably would have got a cool nickname out of it.
/lucky 4 fingers

If I'm remembering my training right (and I am), children have proportionally less volume of blood than adults. What could be a minor injury to a grown person could be severe enough to a child to cause hypovolemic shock.


Very doubtful that you would lose that much blood from severing the tip of your finger. If I remember my calculations right, a 6 year old should weigh about 24kg, and has about 80ml of blood per kg, which would make just under 2L of blood. Plus, when you sever a finger, the vasculature can normally clamp down enough to minimize blood loss. There are also no major arteries to worry about in your finger tip.
 
2013-12-16 10:25:13 AM  
Reminds me of the time my sister broke her arm in gym class. They called my dad instead of an ambulance. My sister was in incredible pain until my dad arrived. He was pissed at administrators. Oddly enough, he did not go to the media or file a lawsuit.
 
2013-12-16 10:47:38 AM  

glmorrs1: High Five State!: Please don't call 911 for stupid crap like this. 911 is for life threatining emergencies. Not because your dumb kid smashed the tip of a finger.

Not just smashed the finger, but crushed the finger to the point that the tip was amputated beneath the nail. This type of injury could very well cause enough bleeding to send a child into shock.


yeah I really doubt that, You're probably the moron I took care of who called 911 because they had an ear ache.
 
2013-12-16 11:10:47 AM  

High Five State!: glmorrs1: High Five State!: Please don't call 911 for stupid crap like this. 911 is for life threatining emergencies. Not because your dumb kid smashed the tip of a finger.

Not just smashed the finger, but crushed the finger to the point that the tip was amputated beneath the nail. This type of injury could very well cause enough bleeding to send a child into shock.

yeah I really doubt that, You're probably the moron I took care of who called 911 because they had an ear ache.


Dude, I'm an EMT. I take people to the hospital for all kinds of minor shiat that they don't really need an ambulance for.

You must be the nurse who handed over a patient for transport with breathing problems that put the nasal cannula on wrong, didn't turn the O2 on, and told me his lung sounds were clear in all quadrants when you coul hear the rales fom across the room.
 
2013-12-16 03:10:19 PM  

High Five State!: yeah I really doubt that, You're probably the moron I took care of who called 911 because they had an ear ache.


glmorrs1:You must be the nurse who handed over a patient for transport with breathing problems that put the nasal cannula on wrong, didn't turn the O2 on, and told me his lung sounds were clear in all quadrants when you coul hear the rales fom across the room.

Will you two just fark already? That way, we can get to attacking the real enemy. Nursing Home LPNs. :)
 
2013-12-16 04:46:07 PM  

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Outstanding.
 
2013-12-16 09:24:53 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Losing the tip of a finger is not life threatening, as long as it's put on ice you have hours to get it reattached.  From the article it's hard to say how much was cut off. If it wasn't down to the bone it will grow back eventually anyway.


Normally I would agree, however if it is severed below the fingernail then that is significant and I would demand a hospital trip asap.
 
2013-12-16 10:34:55 PM  

Tachypnea: EViLTeW: Fury Pilot: Are 911 operators incapable of determining whether an ambulance needs to be sent out or not?

In Australia, emergency services operators are trained to be able to make these determinations and advise callers on the appropriate course of action. This includes non-life threatening events, like severing a finger.

In the US, if someone requests an ambulance, they get an ambulance.  You can not refuse a request for service.  There are circumstances where you can suggest there is another course of action, but if they still wanted an ambulance, they got one.

Same thing here in Canada. You call 911 and ask for an ambulance, you get an ambulance sent to you. Doesn't matter if you called because you can't find your contact lenses or you have a blister on your thumb from taking a microwave dinner out of the microwave. It may not come with its lights and sirens, but one will be sent.


Undoubtedly it is is same in Australia, if you request an ambulance you get an ambulance, but you can call 000 (our 911 equivalent) for events that may not need an ambulance, and operators can advise you of your options.

Others in the thread gave the impression that you would never call 911 for anything other than life threatening injuries.
 
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