HeadLever: Rapmaster2000: I'm not sure what makes a gun range luxurious.This one offers free machine gun rental on your B-day, free gun storage, free sight in service, free gun cleaning *under review*, free personal instructions, etc.Plus having an indoor gun range with a 100-yd rifle range is nice.
gopher321: It calls itself the nation's largest indoor shooting range, and includes luxury features for members.e.g. Personal masturbatory rooms for the higher class of gun fetishist
Government Fromage: I could use a place like that. Minus the someone shooting themself with my gun part./need to get my AR15 sighted in. It's off by a mile and I couldn't hit paper when I took it to the range last week.
Rapmaster2000: They opened a "luxury" gun range near my office. I'm not sure what makes a gun range luxurious.
wildcardjack: I have it on good authority that Cheyney travels the country killing hobos. He finds them, cleans them up, dresses them nice, and releases them on the edge of town with $80 to start a new life. Then he shoots them in the head.
HeadLever: Government Fromage: I could use a place like that. Minus the someone shooting themself with my gun part./need to get my AR15 sighted in. It's off by a mile and I couldn't hit paper when I took it to the range last week.Yeah, but when the minimum annual fee is $250, might as well get you a good bore sight and head off to the public range.
cubic_spleen: I laugh when gun nuts accidentally shoot each other, because they are all stupid cowards; and the fewer stupid cowards in the world, the better.
dryknife: Rapmaster2000: They opened a "luxury" gun range near my office. I'm not sure what makes a gun range luxurious.Silver bullets.
base935: Interesting how some reporter writes in the paper that the employee was "cleaning" a gun for a customer, and everyone imagines some idiot with a full 33rd magazine inserted, looking down the muzzle.
Government Fromage: I picked up one of those laser boresighter doohickies at Gander Mountain for $30. It shapped like a 223 casing and goes in the chamber. I'm going to give it a try this week. Not sure how well it will do but hopefully at least get me hitting the target. Last week was a waste of time at the range. I was turning the knobs on the scope randomly hoping to at least get on paper.
El Pachuco: kqc7011: Sounds like someone does not know the difference between Clearing and Cleaning.Two very different operations.A hangfire is always a possibility when clearing after the primer has been struck and the round does not go off.But one should never cover anything with the muzzle at any time.However sometimes one will when clearing a round and there is no way around it.31 years using guns, , pistols, rifles, shktguns, automatic weapons. Thousands of rounds, brand new, reloads, military surplus, stuff stored for decades......and never one single hang fire. I've been waiting, and it's always a hard primer or weak strike.This guy was dicking around and dropped hammer on a live chamber, end of story, end of excuses.
wildcardjack: Frisco is mostly Californians, so it's not representative of Texas. Srsly, it's where they put the first In-N-Out when they came to town. It was packed open to close for weeks.
kqc7011: El Pachuco:Wonder if we will ever see (if they have it) the security tape to show what actually went on.
mongbiohazard: jaytkay: Is this the thread where all the responsible gun owners high five themselves after they tell us the REAL way to handle a gun?I don't know about any "high fiving" but as you alluded to there IS a correct way to handle a gun just as there are correct ways to handle a knife, hammer, chemicals or anything else. Basic safe handling practices which, IMHO, everyone should be taught in school whether they ever plan to own a gun or not. And practice number one is: never, ever, ever point a gun at something that you don't want getting shot - even if the gun is "empty" ("empty" guns fire the deadliest bullets).
Benevolent Misanthrope: BSABSVR: Those can't be predictable. Fark assures me that people are never shot at gun clubs.Also I hate the passive voice there. The gun didn't just up and discharge. The employee was trying to clean a loaded gun.Doubtful. "Luxury" gun club, first night open, new employees. Probably more like, "OH WOW, dood, cool gun, can I see it? Thanks. Mannn... how much did you pay for this?? Man, this gun is Bad... ASS. I've been thinking to get one, ya know, I'm a real fan of th"<BANG>
BSABSVR: Those can't be predictable. Fark assures me that people are never shot at gun clubs.Also I hate the passive voice there. The gun didn't just up and discharge. The employee was trying to clean a loaded gun.
Old enough to know better: I'm not against Americans owning guns. I'm against idiots owning guns.
markie_farkie: According to this, the employee was attempting to clear a jammed gun when it fired..http://friscoblog.dallasnews.com/2013/12/frisco-gun-club-employee-in ju red-on-shooting-range.html
Satan's Dumptruck Driver: markie_farkie: According to this, the employee was attempting to clear a jammed gun when it fired..http://friscoblog.dallasnews.com/2013/12/frisco-gun-club-employee-in ju red-on-shooting-range.html.Knowing how awesome the media is at reporting about guns, I bet he didn't even "shoot" his hand. One of the articles indicated a grazing wound on the employee's palm. He was probably close to racking the slide to clear a no-fire when it finally went off. The front/rear sight probably cut a nice groove in his palm.
Giltric: Now I am positive that Mayor Bloomberg is an admin here.
BigNumber12: Predictable? Do a majority of gun club openings feature accidental shootings?
John Buck 41: BigNumber12: Predictable? Do a majority of gun club openings feature accidental shootings?Pretty obvious that an ant-gun nut submitted this.
sobriquet by any other name: John Buck 41: BigNumber12: Predictable? Do a majority of gun club openings feature accidental shootings?Pretty obvious that an ant-gun nut submitted this.oh, i see, it's "too soon" to talk about how predictable (statistically) it is for nice normal people to blow each other apart, accidentally. Because that IS predictable.the answer to this isn't "ban guns", it's to "stop glorifying guns into your personal masturbatory arsenal".
WTFDYW: markie_farkie: According to this, the employee was attempting to clear a jammed gun when it fired..http://friscoblog.dallasnews.com/2013/12/frisco-gun-club-employee-in ju red-on-shooting-range.html/He obviously did it wrong, but that will not stop the anti gun derpers from herping and derping./and urping
TwistedIvory: Step one: Drop magazine / eject rounds from cylinder.Step two: Clear chamber.Step three: Double- and triple-check clear chamber.Step four: NOW proceed with cleaning.
DrBenway: "Cleaning a customer's gun when it accidentally discharged"... Huh. So that's what the kids are calling it these days. Well, premature ejaculation is a biatch, even for the high rollers. Bang-chicka-bang.
Benevolent Misanthrope: Marcus Aurelius: He clearly fails at step 1 of picking up a weapon.THIS.Even if he was a "20-year experienced range safety officer who had worked at other ranges and served in the military", he obviously didn't know what he was doing. Never, ever point the business end of a gun toward anything but a safe target. Ever. I don't care if its mag is lying on the bench and the breech is open, with a range flag in place.NEVER.And for Cthulhu's sake, keep your goddamn booger-hook off the bang-switch.
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