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((Americans for Democratic Action)   John Kerry is more liberal than Ted Kennedy. Here comes the political science   (adaction.org) divider line 428
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2004-01-24 12:22:42 PM
Liberal war hero v. borrow-and-spend AWOL. Even Florida can figure this one out, can't they? CAN'T THEY?!

/despair
 
2004-01-24 12:30:38 PM
Flamewar bait.
 
2004-01-24 12:42:58 PM
I think the poster means, "Here comes the political pseudoscience"
 
2004-01-24 12:46:33 PM
By contrast, Jesse Helms' score was 3.
 
2004-01-24 12:53:43 PM
ADA presents blue and black text on blue background. Liberals really are idiots.

/despairing liberal
 
2004-01-24 01:59:57 PM
Yay, so a higher score means they toe the party line instead of representing their districts.. I for one like my representatives to be tools.
 
2004-01-24 02:01:06 PM
But is he a better murderer?
 
2004-01-24 02:09:30 PM
ADA releases an annual voting record based on 20 issues we consider to be the most important each year.

Hmmmm... that, coupled with their grade-school-level web design leads me to believe this may not be the most accurate survey out there...
 
2004-01-24 02:11:54 PM
...oh, and this is the ADA group that *proudly* loves playing the race card to the point where they actually *print* actual "race cards":

http://www.adaction.org/cards.htm
 
2004-01-24 03:27:27 PM
Who's the better swimmer?
 
2004-01-24 03:30:10 PM
Dammit Puffy, you win.
 
2004-01-24 03:46:13 PM
Yeah, did somebody here order 2200 gallons of fuel and 38 boxes of matches? I don't know who called it in, but I need a signature to drop it off.
 
2004-01-24 03:59:59 PM
 
2004-01-24 04:15:29 PM
I'm with recockulous here...can't believe I even looked at this thread but am glad I did...good one!
 
2004-01-24 04:30:30 PM
I would be interested in hearing an intelligent response to these claims that are being made about Senator Kerry on the internet:

The controversial 'We need regime change here in the United States' comment by Democratic presidential candidate Senator John Kerry should have focused attention on this congenital liar and cover-up artist. While he smugly defends his comment, he tries to 'move ahead' and have us forget his previous transgressions:

1) His most famous - and first - appearance on the national stage came when he supposedly threw his Vietnam combat medals over the White House fence in a protest against the war. Guess what? Those were not his medals; they belonged to another Vietnam vet. Kerry kept his medals so that - like today - he can play both sides of the street. His medals are displayed on his office wall.

2) Of course Kerry also engaged in the ago-old game of playing both sides on this war in Iraq. In October 2002 he voted for the Congressional resolution authorizing President Bush to invade Iraq; now, speaking to Democratic primary voters - the one group that is overwhelmingly against the war - he proudly blasts Bush for the way he is conducting the diplomacy and the war.

3) All these lies and deceptions pale by comparison with his biggest act of dishonesty: his performance as Co-Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POWs and MIAs back in the early 1990's. This was a classic case of a committee with a pre-determined agenda . Kerry had an underhanded and evil intention in hijacking this committee. John Kerry wanted to have normalized relations with Hanoi so that real estate associates could do business in Vietnam and make money. What stood in the way of this? The lingering questions about US POWs still held against their will in Vietnam and Laos. So he took control of this committee and saw to it that the POW issue was crushed . Kerry destroyed anyone who stood in his way. Staffers were removed who produced evidence proving that US POWs were still alive. POW advocacy groups who 'kept the issue alive' were threatened with legal prosecution. Kerry lobbied for renewed trade relations with Hanoi. At the same time, his family members were brokering multi- million dollar deals to develop Vietnam--an odd coincidence. Kerry also prevented the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HT2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate, claiming human rights would deteriorate as a result. His actions sent a clear signal to Hanoi that Congress cares little about the human rights for which so many Americans fought and died.

 
2004-01-24 04:57:02 PM
CadetHappy, your comments are more like:
 
2004-01-24 05:33:23 PM
If that's science, I'm going to have to turn to religion for political information that I can count on.
 
2004-01-24 05:34:27 PM
But can Kerry out drink him?
 
2004-01-24 05:34:54 PM
It's nice to see he has a progressive record.

The problem with Kerry is that he's not electable.
The public thinks he's a war-hero. When they find out about the medal incident, they will think he's a loser.
 
2004-01-24 05:34:56 PM
If I may be so bold as to sum politics up:

Yeah, everything that guy just said is bullsh*t... Thank you.
 
2004-01-24 05:35:33 PM
I like Ted Kennedy.
 
2004-01-24 05:35:40 PM
Kerry is more horsefaced than Kennedy. Here comes the furries.
 
2004-01-24 05:35:58 PM
Bush has better night vision.
Trump OTOH, is still a douchebag.
 
2004-01-24 05:36:28 PM
A grain of salt? I'd take this score card with a "liberal" shake.
 
2004-01-24 05:37:23 PM
McGovern 72
The public thinks he's a war-hero. When they find out about the medal incident, they will think he's a loser.

Are you sure you're not thinking of Bob Kerry?
 
2004-01-24 05:37:59 PM
I'd be more likely to believe that the Amish are involved in a secret hacking conspiracy than believe this article has any value whatsoever, given its nature and source.

I'll believe the former when I log onto fark.com and see only the message, "EAT BREAD AND BUY CHAIRS."
 
2004-01-24 05:38:34 PM
CadetHappy

That third story in your post has peaked my curiosity. What source are you citing?
 
2004-01-24 05:38:47 PM
On a lighter note, who wants a barn raised?
 
2004-01-24 05:39:16 PM
CadetHappy, are you asserting that Kerry is a bigger liar than Bush? That race looks to be pretty neck and neck.
 
2004-01-24 05:39:31 PM
2004-01-24 05:37:23 PM Kaeishiwaza

Once they arrived at the Capitol, these veterans threw their war medals over a fence, in a protest against American policy in Vietnam. Kerry was one of the veterans who relinquished his war medals, however, after his election to the United States Senate, Kerry suddenly changed his tune. Kerrys war medals were then prominently displayed in his Capitol Hill office. On his campaign website, Kerry explains how the medals that he once appeared to throw away in public are now in his possession. Kerry says, I threw my ribbons back, not my medals. He then goes on to say, AfterwardsI went up and threw back medals a couple of veterans had given me.
 
2004-01-24 05:39:50 PM
Is that a problem ?
 
2004-01-24 05:40:24 PM
Edwards says they both have

 
2004-01-24 05:41:28 PM
Anybody-but-Bush for President 2004
 
2004-01-24 05:42:47 PM
Hey, I just found some rankings from a group called the "American Conservative Union."

They gave Kerry a "0" and "12" in 1999 and 2000.
They gave Kennedy a "4" and "12" the same years.
So there is no denying that Kerry votes correctly.
 
2004-01-24 05:43:41 PM
Does Bush have any metals for his service in the Viet Nam war?
 
2004-01-24 05:44:08 PM


I concur, Mr. Edwards!
 
2004-01-24 05:44:16 PM
This site isn't even worth the click. Showed in no way where their numbers came from.
 
2004-01-24 05:45:27 PM
The real question is which one has killed more people in the sixties? Kerry in 'Nam or Ted while driving?
 
2004-01-24 05:45:42 PM
"If Ted Kennedy had a Volkswagon he'd be President today"
-thanks for the laughs Lampoon-
 
2004-01-24 05:45:50 PM
*BARF*
This is so old. FARK kennedy, and FARK Kerry. they are one of the same, they are liberal democrats. The sad thing is that there is somekind of scoring system for them to comepete with.

I can hear it all ready in the mass primary. " I am more liberal than Ted Kenennedy, and his one seriuos f*cking liberal. Vote for me John Kerry"
 
2004-01-24 05:46:53 PM
Both Kerry and Bush drink the blood of newborn infants out of Geronimo's skull.
 
2004-01-24 05:47:30 PM
recockulous, that was beautiful. Laughed for a minute. Thanks.
 
2004-01-24 05:47:53 PM


I mean, the dude is a democrat... what did you expect; a bible-thumper ?
 
2004-01-24 05:47:58 PM
Mars Needs Bush: 2004.
 
2004-01-24 05:48:14 PM
His most famous - and first - appearance on the national stage came when he supposedly threw his Vietnam combat medals over the White House fence in a protest against the war. Guess what? Those were not his medals; they belonged to another Vietnam vet. Kerry kept his medals so that - like today - he can play both sides of the street. His medals are displayed on his office wall.

One-sided storytelling.

Of course Kerry also engaged in the ago-old game of playing both sides on this war in Iraq. In October 2002 he voted for the Congressional resolution authorizing President Bush to invade Iraq; now, speaking to Democratic primary voters - the one group that is overwhelmingly against the war - he proudly blasts Bush for the way he is conducting the diplomacy and the war.

take a look at what they ACTUALLY voted on.

All these lies and deceptions pale by comparison with his biggest act of dishonesty: his performance as Co-Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POWs and MIAs back in the early 1990's. This was a classic case of a committee with a pre-determined agenda . Kerry had an underhanded and evil intention in hijacking this committee. John Kerry wanted to have normalized relations with Hanoi so that real estate associates could do business in Vietnam and make money. What stood in the way of this? The lingering questions about US POWs still held against their will in Vietnam and Laos. So he took control of this committee and saw to it that the POW issue was crushed . Kerry destroyed anyone who stood in his way. Staffers were removed who produced evidence proving that US POWs were still alive. POW advocacy groups who 'kept the issue alive' were threatened with legal prosecution. Kerry lobbied for renewed trade relations with Hanoi. At the same time, his family members were brokering multi- million dollar deals to develop Vietnam--an odd coincidence. Kerry also prevented the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HT2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate, claiming human rights would deteriorate as a result. His actions sent a clear signal to Hanoi that Congress cares little about the human rights for which so many Americans fought and died.

You say potato, I say po-tah-to.

keep digging, CadetHappy
 
2004-01-24 05:48:16 PM
There are two types of Liberalism in America today::

There's the classic, open-minded, Jeffersonian liberalism of the Enlightenment that this country was actually founded on. (Look it up in the dictionary.)

Then there's the absurd strawman liberalism that lying right-wing pundits have invented, that doesn't actually exist outside OxyContin fuelled hallucinations.

A Liberal is the only way a true American can be. It's what we are. To be anything else is an aberration, even borderline treason.

/so there.
 
2004-01-24 05:48:36 PM
kethares..pics?
 
2004-01-24 05:49:44 PM
War hero? What does it take to earn that moniker these days?
 
2004-01-24 05:49:51 PM
I can't seem to think about Kerry without recalling this from Dave Barry last September:

"In conclusion, I want to extend my sincere best wishes to all of my opponents, Republican and Democrat, and to state that, in the unlikely event I am not elected, I will support whoever is, even if it is Sen. John Kerry, who once came, with his entourage, into a ski-rental shop in Ketchum, Idaho, where I was waiting patiently with my family to rent snowboards, and Sen. Kerry used one of his lackeys to flagrantly barge in line ahead of us and everybody else, as if he had some urgent senatorial need for a snowboard, like there was about to be an emergency meeting, out on the slopes, of the Joint Halfpipe Committee. I say it's time for us, as a nation, to put this unpleasant incident behind us. I know that I, for one, have forgotten all about it. That is how fair and balanced I am."
 
2004-01-24 05:50:01 PM
It must really suck to be John Kerry. I mean, he goes to all the trouble of whomping Dean in the Iowa primary, finally gets to be the frontrunner like he always wanted, and not only will Bush wipe the floor with him, but the news is still all about Dean!
 
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