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(Some Confused Guy)   Now here's a paradox for you: beer concentrate   (patsbcb.com) divider line 31
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2013-12-15 12:32:36 PM
 
2013-12-15 12:33:02 PM
I kinda wish they'd listed a patent application number or something I could look up to see what they're actually doing.

It seems like they're using an engineered or alternate yeast to make an extra-strong barley-wine from a dense mash, then adding water to dilute it down to the alcohol and carbohydrate density typical of american beer afterwards?

Seems a bit silly, but I guess it works.  Saves some energy cost on shipping it long distances since they're selling it as a novelty gift over the internet, at least, which is at least a nice try at being environmentally responsible.
 
2013-12-15 12:33:02 PM
Heretics.
 
2013-12-15 12:48:35 PM
bring whiskey.
 
2013-12-15 12:50:58 PM
It's been done

/Just add seltzer!
 
2013-12-15 12:51:00 PM

CodeMonkey4Life: bring whiskey.


But what if my whiskey's too heavy. . .?
 
2013-12-15 12:56:41 PM
When i drink a lot of beer I can't concentrate
 
2013-12-15 12:57:24 PM
What's paradoxical about this?
 
2013-12-15 01:06:45 PM
I get Bud Light concentrate from the tap. And by tap I mean "water faucet"

/just add water ...
 
2013-12-15 01:13:27 PM

Jim_Callahan: I kinda wish they'd listed a patent application number or something I could look up to see what they're actually doing.


2010/0047386.

/I'm magic
 
2013-12-15 01:21:30 PM

pueblonative: CodeMonkey4Life: bring whiskey.

But what if my whiskey's too heavy. . .?


With a bucket, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry...

/wait, wrong song
 
2013-12-15 01:22:04 PM

Jim_Callahan: I kinda wish they'd listed a patent application number or something I could look up to see what they're actually doing.

It seems like they're using an engineered or alternate yeast to make an extra-strong barley-wine from a dense mash, then adding water to dilute it down to the alcohol and carbohydrate density typical of american beer afterwards?

Seems a bit silly, but I guess it works.  Saves some energy cost on shipping it long distances since they're selling it as a novelty gift over the internet, at least, which is at least a nice try at being environmentally responsible.


It's sold as a backpacking thing.  Follow the link.  I think you're on to the basic process, though.
 
2013-12-15 01:37:59 PM
During prohibition some of the major breweries did something quite similar, selling beer starter kits that you just added water to. Of course, you had to wait seven days for it to ferment and carbonate.
 
2013-12-15 01:43:53 PM
I could see people sucking this down straight. When brandy was invented, it was to remove the water to make a wine concentrate for more profitable shipping; it was originally intended to be reconstituted into wine at voyage's end, but people liked it so much they just pounded it in concentrate form.
 
2013-12-15 01:56:53 PM
It's farking whisky.
 
2013-12-15 04:28:19 PM

Trocadero: It's farking whisky.


THIS
 
2013-12-15 04:38:22 PM

buckler: I could see people sucking this down straight. When brandy was invented, it was to remove the water to make a wine concentrate for more profitable shipping; it was originally intended to be reconstituted into wine at voyage's end, but people liked it so much they just pounded it in concentrate form.


I believe you mean port wine, not brandy.
 
2013-12-15 04:45:38 PM

EbolaNYC: buckler: I could see people sucking this down straight. When brandy was invented, it was to remove the water to make a wine concentrate for more profitable shipping; it was originally intended to be reconstituted into wine at voyage's end, but people liked it so much they just pounded it in concentrate form.

I believe you mean port wine, not brandy.


No, he's correct. Though Port did come about for largely the same reasons.
 
2013-12-15 04:47:41 PM
Also, most of the beer I drink is already concentrated. It's called Tripel Ale.
 
2013-12-15 04:49:32 PM

EbolaNYC: buckler: I could see people sucking this down straight. When brandy was invented, it was to remove the water to make a wine concentrate for more profitable shipping; it was originally intended to be reconstituted into wine at voyage's end, but people liked it so much they just pounded it in concentrate form.

I believe you mean port wine, not brandy.


Port is made by adding wine liquor (aguardiente) to wine to stop the fermenting prematurely, leaving sweeter wine that is still pretty alcoholic. The wine liquor is sometimes called brandy but is very different from commercial brandy. Brandy is simply made by distilling wine
 
2013-12-15 04:59:04 PM
It's called Vegemite.
 
2013-12-15 05:04:41 PM

Phaeon: EbolaNYC: buckler: I could see people sucking this down straight. When brandy was invented, it was to remove the water to make a wine concentrate for more profitable shipping; it was originally intended to be reconstituted into wine at voyage's end, but people liked it so much they just pounded it in concentrate form.

I believe you mean port wine, not brandy.

Port is made by adding wine liquor (aguardiente) to wine to stop the fermenting prematurely, leaving sweeter wine that is still pretty alcoholic. The wine liquor is sometimes called brandy but is very different from commercial brandy. Brandy is simply made by distilling wine


Ahhh, well thanks for the history lesson. A delicious history lesson.
 
2013-12-15 05:08:55 PM
Any Farkers try this stuff yet? I hate carrying half gallons of swill around on hiking trips, and forget bringing a bunch of sixers.

Hesitant to waste 10 bucks plus shipping on a 4 pack of beer powder, I already hate dropping that on Green Flashes IPA and Old Raputin, which at least I know are already world class brews.
 
2013-12-15 06:00:16 PM
Not contradictory at all -- during Prohibition, bakers and (former) beer-producers sold DIY home brew kits. Well, really more like malt syrups and extracts with a pretty explicit list of things to  not mix it with and in what order, and do afterwards, since that would make beer and that would be illegal.
 
2013-12-15 06:36:52 PM
It's called Guinness.

/My fellow stout-drinking friends call taking a piss "making Budweiser".
 
2013-12-15 06:53:11 PM
Old news is old--Miller made a concentrated beer almost 30 years ago.  It never made it out of the testing stage due to the lawyers warning about the potential lawsuits of people slamming the stuff without diluting it properly.

/I know, a lot changes in 30 years with people's expectations, etc.
 
2013-12-15 07:02:57 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Jim_Callahan: I kinda wish they'd listed a patent application number or something I could look up to see what they're actually doing.

It seems like they're using an engineered or alternate yeast to make an extra-strong barley-wine from a dense mash, then adding water to dilute it down to the alcohol and carbohydrate density typical of american beer afterwards?

Seems a bit silly, but I guess it works.  Saves some energy cost on shipping it long distances since they're selling it as a novelty gift over the internet, at least, which is at least a nice try at being environmentally responsible.

It's sold as a backpacking thing.  Follow the link.  I think you're on to the basic process, though.


Considering you have to carry either carbonated water or water and compressed CO2 to make the finished beer, it seems kind of like a "push" as far as saving weight for backpacking.
 
2013-12-15 07:18:01 PM

heavymetal: Benevolent Misanthrope: Jim_Callahan: I kinda wish they'd listed a patent application number or something I could look up to see what they're actually doing.

It seems like they're using an engineered or alternate yeast to make an extra-strong barley-wine from a dense mash, then adding water to dilute it down to the alcohol and carbohydrate density typical of american beer afterwards?

Seems a bit silly, but I guess it works.  Saves some energy cost on shipping it long distances since they're selling it as a novelty gift over the internet, at least, which is at least a nice try at being environmentally responsible.

It's sold as a backpacking thing.  Follow the link.  I think you're on to the basic process, though.

Considering you have to carry either carbonated water or water and compressed CO2 to make the finished beer, it seems kind of like a "push" as far as saving weight for backpacking.


Again, just follow the link.  They have a solution for that, too.
 
2013-12-15 09:24:13 PM
Sodastream finally has a use!
 
2013-12-16 12:40:57 AM

Mad_Radhu: It's called Guinness.

/My fellow stout-drinking friends call taking a piss "making Budweiser".


Well, you know, Guinness clocks in at 125 calories and 4.3% ABV... so I wouldn't exactly be knocking the Budweiser at 143 calories and 5.0% abv.

But if you want to keep drinking in the smuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug feel free.
 
2013-12-16 01:39:22 AM
Awesome. They managed to turn the beer fountain into a soda fountain and microbrews into Budweisers. Seriously, the carbonation makes all the difference. The age-old method of mixing liquid H2O with liquid CO2 can't come anywhere near what those yeast are capable of.
 
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