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(The Planetary Society)   The sorry state of planetary science funding In one chart   (planetary.org) divider line 62
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2013-12-15 05:09:11 PM
Dude...Who's going to science the planetaries now?
 
2013-12-15 05:25:49 PM

theorellior: HighZoolander: Meh, we've already landed a probe on Titan, why should Europa be any harder?

Gawd, I would love to have a Curiosity-sized mission to Titan. Wouldn't that just be the shiat? A nuclear-powered rover the size of a RAV-4 cruising around on gullies carved by ethane flash floods in rock-hard ice? Oops, I think I just jizzed in my pants.


Rover for Titan?  No.  Titan is the only world outside of earth that allows two more interesting options

1) Blimp.  Titan has low gravity, high atmospheric pressure and calm winds near the surface.  You can cover way more ground with a blimp than a rover, and just set down for a little while when you want surface samples.
2) Boat.  There are entire ethane lakes on the surface- paddle around them to see the coastline and get good measurements of the hydrology of the moon.

Rovers are great elsewhere, but I want a freaking boat on Titan.
 
2013-12-15 06:09:20 PM

dahmers love zombie: 2: As with all graphs that have a nonzero y-axis, that graph is bullshiat. Yes, there's been a drop, but it's not "almost to zero", as that graph would have you believe.


They should take a page from the Chicken Little playbook, and instead of plotting funding, plot funding anomaly (just like global warming graphs are temperature anomaly, and not temperature).

That way, they can produce a graph with maximal bias, without the appearance of a non-zero y-axis...just like the Hockey Teamers do.
 
2013-12-15 06:15:15 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Rovers are great elsewhere, but I want a freaking boat on Titan.


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2013-12-15 07:05:33 PM

SevenizGud: dahmers love zombie: 2: As with all graphs that have a nonzero y-axis, that graph is bullshiat. Yes, there's been a drop, but it's not "almost to zero", as that graph would have you believe.

They should take a page from the Chicken Little playbook, and instead of plotting funding, plot funding anomaly (just like global warming graphs are temperature anomaly, and not temperature).

That way, they can produce a graph with maximal bias, without the appearance of a non-zero y-axis...just like the Hockey Teamers do.


Good idea. Then you could randomly pick 2 or 3 years out of the graph and say "What funding decrease?" over and over again with no apparent understanding of math or English.
 
2013-12-15 08:42:08 PM

FTA:

Planetary Science funding steadily increased during President Obama's first term. The significant collapse in FY2013 was not due to Congress, but due to a new White House policy


Because democrats are pro-science!
 
2013-12-15 08:46:02 PM
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2013-12-15 11:06:56 AM


Doktor_Zhivago: China can put a man into space on a domestically produced rocket.

The US cannot.

How is that a mistaken view?

SpaceX could launch a manned vessel -right now- if they only had to adhere to China's safety guidelines.

I just have to know if you typed that with a straight face.
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2013-12-16 12:19:59 AM

OnlyM3: FTA:
Planetary Science funding steadily increased during President Obama's first term. The significant collapse in FY2013 was not due to Congress, but due to a new White House policy

Because democrats are pro-science!


There is enough blame to go around, without you being a partisan shill. If the Republicans love science funding so much, why did they shutdown the government? Why have they contributed to the sequester, that has hurt science funding? Why aren't they speaking loudly about the cuts to science funding, instead of rambling on about Obamacare and Benghazi every 10 seconds? Both parties are certainly to blame, and the Republicans aren't doing any favors by being very pro cutting thanks to the Tea Party. If the Republicans really gave a shiat about science, they'd speak up about it.

Oh, and for further proof that we can't turn to Republicans to champion science.
Of course if you have to blame both sides, you can't be angry at Democrats and blame them for all that is wrong with this country.
 
2013-12-16 02:02:39 AM
Somewhat misleading. Part of this is NASA getting away from the idea of doing a larger number of lower-quality/expense probes, and instead getting back to doing a few big-ticket launches. Also the scale for the budget numbers makes the decline look more severe than it actually has been. That makes it look like the future budget levels will be a tenth of the peak, when it's actually a 35% decrease from the '05 peak to '14 low.
 
2013-12-16 02:05:59 AM

italie: They've also retired one of their costliest programs in that time...


The chart claims to be the "Planetary Science" numbers, which if true means the Manned Spaceflight budget is totally separate. Your claim would be valid if discussing total NASA budget figures, but this is the budget specifically for planetary probes. The end of the Space Shuttle doesn't affect them. Still misleading with the cherry-picked y-axis, though.
 
2013-12-16 06:17:27 AM

bbfreak: How about this for a sexy mission, Europa Clipper


I'm up to my knees in my own cum. We should already BE living on Europa, anyway. The Orion program would have gotten us there AND taught us about radiation.
 
2013-12-16 01:43:17 PM

dahmers love zombie: 2: As with all graphs that have a nonzero y-axis, that graph is bullshiat. Yes, there's been a drop, but it's not "almost to zero", as that graph would have you believe.


This.  The just made themselves out to be untrustworthy asshats, destroying their ability to convey any message convincingly.  Asshats.
 
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