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2013-12-15 01:16:00 AM
And now we know who.
 
2013-12-15 01:31:49 AM
FTA: "No one is suggesting Pierson's political beliefs had anything to do with his crime," Mediaite said. "But what is the logic for editing out a carefully reported account of who this person was in life? Why does the Denver Post not trust its readers to be able to consume the unvarnished truth?"

and the related links FTA:
    ∙ Arapahoe High School shooter identified as a 'very opinionated Socialist'
    ∙ Haters on Twitter blame NRA for Arapahoe High School shooting, call for death
    ∙ Liberalism: An ideology of rage and hate
    ∙ Liberalism remains an ideology of genocidal hate and rage
    ∙ The left's answer for what ails America: Murder conservatives, NRA members
    ∙ Abortion supporters spew hate over #PrayToEndAbortion Twitter hashtag
    ∙ Do liberals really want a second civil war in America?
    ∙ Journalism professor: NRA members deserve execution by firing squad
    ∙ Texas Democratic Party leader, blogger calls for shooting NRA members
    ∙ Should an apology from a Democratic Party Executive Committee member cover calls for mass shootings?
    ∙ Des Moines columnist calls for repeal of Second Amendment, death of gun owners



Basically, the short version of the article is "I'm not saying that him being a leftist had anything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever, but him being a leftist had everything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever  and conservatives are the REAL victims here and furthermore."
 
2013-12-15 01:41:59 AM
I know this gets in the way of "assign the opposition's political moniker to a criminal," but nobody cares about the opinions of people in high school and I think it should stay that way.  Honestly, nobody cares what was flying through this guy's head.
 
2013-12-15 01:45:30 AM
I remember one time when someone on fark said that saddam hussein was "our emmanuel goldstein".

Bonus: they said it after he was captured.

not understanding 1984 is not limited to any one side of the political spectrum.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-12-15 06:50:33 AM
I'm Yukon Cornelius:

Basically, the short version of the article is "I'm not saying that him being a leftist had anything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever, but him being a leftist had everything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever  and conservatives are the REAL victims here and furthermore."

He wasn't a leftist.  Gun nuts try this after every shooting.

They even tried to label Adam Lanza as a leftist and he was a survivalist gun nut.
 
2013-12-15 07:24:00 AM

vpb: I'm Yukon Cornelius:

Basically, the short version of the article is "I'm not saying that him being a leftist had anything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever, but him being a leftist had everything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever  and conservatives are the REAL victims here and furthermore."

He wasn't a leftist.  Gun nuts try this after every shooting.

They even tried to label Adam Lanza as a leftist and he was a survivalist gun nut.


What makes one a "gun nut" as opposed to, say, a nut who got his hands on a gun? We have gang violence around here with kids getting hit by errant shots all the time. Are those guys "gun nuts"?
 
2013-12-15 07:51:49 AM
The Post did not explain why the edit was made, but Bearing Arms had one possible explanation.

Do tell.

"It's always about protecting the narrative, and defending the party, comrades," the blog said.

The Denver Post are all communists now? Seems legit and totally not at all the ramblings of a sucky blog.

Screenshots of the article before and after the edits can be seen at Twitchy.

Of course they can.

Whenever there is any kind of notorious shooting in the US these days the game of assigning the shooter to one political ideology or another gets played in short order.

That all noted, it was dumb edit meant to prevent what it instead ensured.
 
2013-12-15 08:00:27 AM
Whenever there a shooting -

Right - uphold 2nd amendment ignoring all criticism, call out shooter if shooter identifies with opposing political party.

Center - should we re-examine gun control and/or focus on mental health as a society

Left - condemn 2nd amendment ignoring all criticism, call out shooter if shooter identifies with opposing political party.

Someone post a picture of that funny penguin thing to make a point, then someone ask if there was a good guy with a gun there, and if he could have stopped it.

/end thread.
 
2013-12-15 08:00:53 AM
Listen you stupid Lib-U-Lardo Libbocreeps.  Liberalism is an inherently violent belief system.  Why just look at Islam, there's your proof.  Libs believe that there is no God (or only a Pagan Moon God).  Therefore to a Lib, human life has no meaning and people are simply expendable for no good reason.  (A good reason would be if they were poors or something.)  And remember that all of history's dictators - EVERY MAN JACK OF THEM - were screaming, prancing Liberals taking eugenics to its logical conclusion.  TINSTAAVC!
 
2013-12-15 08:03:23 AM

I'm Yukon Cornelius: Basically, the short version of the article is "I'm not saying that him being a leftist had anything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever, but him being a leftist had everything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever  and conservatives are the REAL victims here and furthermore."


Pretty much.

Anyone who is not a leftist generally has two things to say to leftists:

1) Stop being a leftist.
2) You awful beast, you are ruining this country.

Compromise to rightists means giving up everything you believe and becoming a rightist.
 
2013-12-15 08:06:20 AM

casual disregard: I'm Yukon Cornelius: Basically, the short version of the article is "I'm not saying that him being a leftist had anything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever, but him being a leftist had everything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever  and conservatives are the REAL victims here and furthermore."

Pretty much.

Anyone who is not a leftist generally has two things to say to leftists:

1) Stop being a leftist.
2) You awful beast, you are ruining this country.

Compromise to rightists means giving up everything you believe and becoming a rightist.


And to these folks, centrists count as leftists.
 
2013-12-15 08:09:06 AM

Nabb1: vpb: I'm Yukon Cornelius:

Basically, the short version of the article is "I'm not saying that him being a leftist had anything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever, but him being a leftist had everything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever  and conservatives are the REAL victims here and furthermore."

He wasn't a leftist.  Gun nuts try this after every shooting.

They even tried to label Adam Lanza as a leftist and he was a survivalist gun nut.

What makes one a "gun nut" as opposed to, say, a nut who got his hands on a gun? We have gang violence around here with kids getting hit by errant shots all the time. Are those guys "gun nuts"?


The amount of time spent engaged in shooting related activities. Like a World of Warcraft nut or an audiophile.

If the majority of your free time is spent dedicated to your hobby you are a (inserthobbyhere) nut.
 
2013-12-15 08:18:37 AM
Zarquon's Flat Tire:

If the majority of your free time is spent dedicated to your hobby you are a (inserthobbyhere) nut.

I spend my free time studying people who spend too much time eating nuts.

I'm a nut nut nut.
 
2013-12-15 08:22:50 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Nabb1: vpb: I'm Yukon Cornelius:

Basically, the short version of the article is "I'm not saying that him being a leftist had anything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever, but him being a leftist had everything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever  and conservatives are the REAL victims here and furthermore."

He wasn't a leftist.  Gun nuts try this after every shooting.

They even tried to label Adam Lanza as a leftist and he was a survivalist gun nut.

What makes one a "gun nut" as opposed to, say, a nut who got his hands on a gun? We have gang violence around here with kids getting hit by errant shots all the time. Are those guys "gun nuts"?

The amount of time spent engaged in shooting related activities. Like a World of Warcraft nut or an audiophile.

If the majority of your free time is spent dedicated to your hobby you are a (inserthobbyhere) nut.


I guess that makes a lot of us FARKnuts.
 
2013-12-15 08:23:07 AM

Nabb1: vpb: I'm Yukon Cornelius:

Basically, the short version of the article is "I'm not saying that him being a leftist had anything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever, but him being a leftist had everything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever  and conservatives are the REAL victims here and furthermore."

He wasn't a leftist.  Gun nuts try this after every shooting.

They even tried to label Adam Lanza as a leftist and he was a survivalist gun nut.

What makes one a "gun nut" as opposed to, say, a nut who got his hands on a gun? We have gang violence around here with kids getting hit by errant shots all the time. Are those guys "gun nuts"?


I would think so, all the gun fetishists use worship guns to improve their self esteem and in their minds gain power where they feel powerless. There is a reason a gang member holds up money and a gun in a picture, those are symbols of status and power in their minds. The world revolves around ego and self esteem.

Remember that yahoo PA sheriff who made those insane gun videos? He used gunfire as an answer to his critics, in his mind a display of power and authority, to us a whack-job on the edge.

I am not saying that is all gun owners, I have a redneck wing of the family that lives in a rural area and guns are just part of their life. But when they come to visit they point out they have a handgun, because they let TV news terrorize them and think they will be robbed/raped at a moments notice in the suburbs because they saw a black person driving down a busy street to get to my house.
 
2013-12-15 08:26:32 AM

Nabb1: Zarquon's Flat Tire: Nabb1: vpb: I'm Yukon Cornelius:

Basically, the short version of the article is "I'm not saying that him being a leftist had anything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever, but him being a leftist had everything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever  and conservatives are the REAL victims here and furthermore."

He wasn't a leftist.  Gun nuts try this after every shooting.

They even tried to label Adam Lanza as a leftist and he was a survivalist gun nut.

What makes one a "gun nut" as opposed to, say, a nut who got his hands on a gun? We have gang violence around here with kids getting hit by errant shots all the time. Are those guys "gun nuts"?

The amount of time spent engaged in shooting related activities. Like a World of Warcraft nut or an audiophile.

If the majority of your free time is spent dedicated to your hobby you are a (inserthobbyhere) nut.

I guess that makes a lot of us FARKnuts.


Well I sure couldn't ever claim I'm not.
 
2013-12-15 08:27:31 AM

Fark It: I know this gets in the way of "assign the opposition's political moniker to a criminal," but nobody cares about the opinions of people in high school and I think it should stay that way.  Honestly, nobody cares what was flying through this guy's head.


A bullet.
 
2013-12-15 08:29:49 AM
Let's see what we've learned:
1.  Subby doesn't understand what Orwellian means.
2. We've had two very public shootings in a year with the weapon personally recommended by Vice President Joe Biden.  The Navy Yard and Arapahoe High School  thanks him for that public service announcement about shotguns.
 
2013-12-15 08:36:47 AM
Hey waitafugginminute, I thought the zOMG SOOOOOOOCIALISTS! were coming to take yer guns.
 
2013-12-15 08:37:07 AM

I'm Yukon Cornelius: FTA: "No one is suggesting Pierson's political beliefs had anything to do with his crime," Mediaite said. "But what is the logic for editing out a carefully reported account of who this person was in life? Why does the Denver Post not trust its readers to be able to consume the unvarnished truth?"

and the related links FTA:
    ∙ Arapahoe High School shooter identified as a 'very opinionated Socialist'
    ∙ Haters on Twitter blame NRA for Arapahoe High School shooting, call for death
    ∙ Liberalism: An ideology of rage and hate
    ∙ Liberalism remains an ideology of genocidal hate and rage
    ∙ The left's answer for what ails America: Murder conservatives, NRA members
    ∙ Abortion supporters spew hate over #PrayToEndAbortion Twitter hashtag
    ∙ Do liberals really want a second civil war in America?
    ∙ Journalism professor: NRA members deserve execution by firing squad
    ∙ Texas Democratic Party leader, blogger calls for shooting NRA members
    ∙ Should an apology from a Democratic Party Executive Committee member cover calls for mass shootings?
    ∙ Des Moines columnist calls for repeal of Second Amendment, death of gun owners


Basically, the short version of the article is "I'm not saying that him being a leftist had anything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever, but him being a leftist had everything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever  and conservatives are the REAL victims here and furthermore."


Pretty much THIS. It's all part of the political "tit for tat" game. There is no debating ideologies like adults, people have to create straw men out of the most extreme examples found in order to vilify those whom disagree with us. There are no gray areas to agree to disagree, people have to be 100% right all the time now.

In a way that was the problem here. Not ideologies; just a kid who was wrong and kicked off the debate team, but refused to accept it and had to prove he was "right" by the barrel of a gun.
 
2013-12-15 08:39:44 AM

Nabb1: vpb: I'm Yukon Cornelius:

Basically, the short version of the article is "I'm not saying that him being a leftist had anything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever, but him being a leftist had everything to do with him committing a crime that had no political motives whatsoever  and conservatives are the REAL victims here and furthermore."

He wasn't a leftist.  Gun nuts try this after every shooting.

They even tried to label Adam Lanza as a leftist and he was a survivalist gun nut.

What makes one a "gun nut" as opposed to, say, a nut who got his hands on a gun? We have gang violence around here with kids getting hit by errant shots all the time. Are those guys "gun nuts"?


Fetishism.... I mean that seriously. I have a gun... it's fun... I shoot paper with it, and in the summer, I bring it with me because I live in a place where foxes have come at,me and I've  had a WAAAAAAY too close encounter with a bear that jumped down off of a dumpster (I couldn't see him until he jumped down). The thing is... I don't actually *want* to use my gun against either an animal or a person to defend myself. It's the animals land, and I'm just kinda visiting... with respect to people, even if they were up to something bad, I'd still feel absolutely terrible if I had to actually use it against a person. These gun fetishists though... the spank their monkey while fantasizing about finally getting the chance to "defend" themselves against some bad guy... I think many of them actually hope someone does try to break into their house or harm them because they really do just want to kill someone and have a way to not get in trouble for it. They look at guys like Zimmerman as a hero... they don't care that he started the fight and probably just pulled the gun because he was losing, the important thing for them is that he found a way to kill another person, and not go to jail for it. They cling to these wacky notions that someone is going to show up at their door to take their guns not because they hate any particular political ideology, but because they want to "assert their second amendment rights" (read: shoot people) and be able to rationalize/justify it. They are, in fact, nuts. They want to kill people, they just want to be able to do that, then still find a way to consider themselves good Christians.
 
2013-12-15 08:50:33 AM

tbeatty: Let's see what we've learned:
1.  Subby doesn't understand what Orwellian means.
2. We've had two very public shootings in a year with the weapon personally recommended by Vice President Joe Biden.  The Navy Yard and Arapahoe High School  thanks him for that public service announcement about shotguns.


Wow, so you're going for it. Okay, well, have fun.
 
2013-12-15 09:06:14 AM
vpb:
Gun nuts try this after every shooting.

They even tried to label Adam Lanza as a leftist and he was a survivalist gun nut.


Labeling: Is this irony or stupidity?

Using your logic, Adam Lanza labeled himself a leftist.  Way to go.

None of these one-off shooters have a particular identity that is broadly shared.  Whether it's "leftist", "gun nut", "survivalist," "socialist", "right wing" or whatever.  Nor does their brand of anti-social behavior correspond to widely diagnosed conditions such as ADHD or Aspbergers.  Nor is it due to a lack of mental health care, access to guns, movies or violent video games.  Stop trying to make 6 sigma look like 1 sigma.
 
2013-12-15 09:09:21 AM
Orwellian = "I read 1984 once in High School and only vaguely remember what it was about."


at least that's my take away any time someone tries to cite 1984.
 
2013-12-15 09:09:40 AM

LasersHurt: tbeatty: Let's see what we've learned:
1.  Subby doesn't understand what Orwellian means.
2. We've had two very public shootings in a year with the weapon personally recommended by Vice President Joe Biden.  The Navy Yard and Arapahoe High School  thanks him for that public service announcement about shotguns.

Wow, so you're going for it. Okay, well, have fun.


No, just pointing out the obvious.
 
2013-12-15 09:10:50 AM
I prefer the term "Snackwellian".
 
2013-12-15 09:11:18 AM

tbeatty: LasersHurt: tbeatty: Let's see what we've learned:
1.  Subby doesn't understand what Orwellian means.
2. We've had two very public shootings in a year with the weapon personally recommended by Vice President Joe Biden.  The Navy Yard and Arapahoe High School  thanks him for that public service announcement about shotguns.

Wow, so you're going for it. Okay, well, have fun.

No, just pointing out the obvious.


No, you're not. You're publicly exercising your ignorance while simultaneously making what you believe is a clever link to Biden.
 
2013-12-15 09:12:02 AM

tbeatty: Let's see what we've learned:
1.  Subby doesn't understand what Orwellian means.
2. We've had two very public shootings in a year with the weapon personally recommended by Vice President Joe Biden.  The Navy Yard and Arapahoe High School  thanks him for that public service announcement about shotguns.


Trot out all the ALTS!
 
2013-12-15 09:14:22 AM

LasersHurt: tbeatty: Let's see what we've learned:
1.  Subby doesn't understand what Orwellian means.
2. We've had two very public shootings in a year with the weapon personally recommended by Vice President Joe Biden.  The Navy Yard and Arapahoe High School  thanks him for that public service announcement about shotguns.

Wow, so you're going for it. Okay, well, have fun.


You must have a short memory. Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Savage, etc threw a shiatfit after Biden's speech where he said that you should use a shotgun to kill people during your next school shooting. The right wing media pounced, protesting that the AR-15 is the murder weapon of choice for Real Americans on a campus killing spree, while a shotgun is elitist and socialist.
 
2013-12-15 09:16:20 AM

tbeatty: Using your logic, Adam Lanza labeled himself a leftist.


I can label myself an Indian deity. Does that make me one?

Of course not. Stupid argument.
 
2013-12-15 09:16:31 AM
So, they edited a section where a classmate described him while leaving a section where the shooter described himself?
 
2013-12-15 09:17:31 AM

LasersHurt: tbeatty: LasersHurt: tbeatty: Let's see what we've learned:
1.  Subby doesn't understand what Orwellian means.
2. We've had two very public shootings in a year with the weapon personally recommended by Vice President Joe Biden.  The Navy Yard and Arapahoe High School  thanks him for that public service announcement about shotguns.

Wow, so you're going for it. Okay, well, have fun.

No, just pointing out the obvious.

No, you're not. You're publicly exercising your ignorance while simultaneously making what you believe is a clever link to Biden.


Anytime a shotgun is used, it appears to be the "clever" or "funny" thing to do in conservative circles. They really do have no grasp on humor at all.
 
2013-12-15 09:18:28 AM

bulldg4life: So, they edited a section where a classmate described him while leaving a section where the shooter described himself?


userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2013-12-15 09:18:59 AM
Keynesian = Kenyan = Socialist

It's all good.
 
2013-12-15 09:20:09 AM
It's sad that every time one of these things happens, people are, within hours, trying to assess the political views of the shooter. If that's the first thing that occurs to you when these stories break, something's wrong.
 
2013-12-15 09:23:52 AM

Nabb1: It's sad that every time one of these things happens, people are, within hours, trying to assess the political views of the shooter. If that's the first thing that occurs to you when these stories break, something's wrong.


If it's "within hours," it sounds like no, it's not the first thing.
 
2013-12-15 09:28:00 AM

Yakk: But when they come to visit they point out they have a handgun, because they let TV news terrorize them and think they will be robbed/raped at a moments notice in the suburbs because they saw a black person driving down a busy street to get to my house.


I have an aunt who lives in rural Indiana who brings a gun to events at our house because we live "in Chicago," or, you know, an hour's drive away from Chicago in the furthest bastions of what could be considered suburbs as the cornfields begin.
 
2013-12-15 09:30:53 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: It's sad that every time one of these things happens, people are, within hours, trying to assess the political views of the shooter. If that's the first thing that occurs to you when these stories break, something's wrong.

If it's "within hours," it sounds like no, it's not the first thing.


So, it's okay if you're doing it before the bodies are even cold. You're sitting there just hoping the guy has views opposite yours so you can make some hay out of those little corpses and that's okay, because it happened a little bit after, not immediately.
 
2013-12-15 09:32:05 AM
I think we can all agree that the world is better that the shooter is dead.

Gun deaths bring us all closer together!
 
2013-12-15 09:35:30 AM

Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: It's sad that every time one of these things happens, people are, within hours, trying to assess the political views of the shooter. If that's the first thing that occurs to you when these stories break, something's wrong.

If it's "within hours," it sounds like no, it's not the first thing.

So, it's okay if you're doing it before the bodies are even cold. You're sitting there just hoping the guy has views opposite yours so you can make some hay out of those little corpses and that's okay, because it happened a little bit after, not immediately.


Did I say I was? I was just taking exception to your assertion that it's "the first thing" and also "within hours," which are pretty much mutually exclusive. I'm sorry, but when IS an acceptable timeframe for discussing the events and the person responsible? I wouldn't want to offend your delicate sensibilities by discussing current events in a manner that you dislike.
 
2013-12-15 09:35:50 AM

Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: It's sad that every time one of these things happens, people are, within hours, trying to assess the political views of the shooter. If that's the first thing that occurs to you when these stories break, something's wrong.

If it's "within hours," it sounds like no, it's not the first thing.

So, it's okay if you're doing it before the bodies are even cold. You're sitting there just hoping the guy has views opposite yours so you can make some hay out of those little corpses and that's okay, because it happened a little bit after, not immediately.


That's actually a pretty normal reaction, to alienate the perpetrator of an atrocity. Could you imagine someone like you, who shared your values doing something like this? What would that say about you and your values? Of course you'd look for something that differentiates him from you.
 
2013-12-15 09:40:24 AM
The obvious is to buy more guns to protect themselves from the socialists!
 
2013-12-15 09:40:57 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: It's sad that every time one of these things happens, people are, within hours, trying to assess the political views of the shooter. If that's the first thing that occurs to you when these stories break, something's wrong.

If it's "within hours," it sounds like no, it's not the first thing.

So, it's okay if you're doing it before the bodies are even cold. You're sitting there just hoping the guy has views opposite yours so you can make some hay out of those little corpses and that's okay, because it happened a little bit after, not immediately.

Did I say I was? I was just taking exception to your assertion that it's "the first thing" and also "within hours," which are pretty much mutually exclusive. I'm sorry, but when IS an acceptable timeframe for discussing the events and the person responsible? I wouldn't want to offend your delicate sensibilities by discussing current events in a manner that you dislike.


Oh, sorry, wouldn't want you to miss the chance to feel validated by dead kids. Have to get to the important stuff right away.
 
2013-12-15 09:41:39 AM

rzrwiresunrise: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: It's sad that every time one of these things happens, people are, within hours, trying to assess the political views of the shooter. If that's the first thing that occurs to you when these stories break, something's wrong.

If it's "within hours," it sounds like no, it's not the first thing.

So, it's okay if you're doing it before the bodies are even cold. You're sitting there just hoping the guy has views opposite yours so you can make some hay out of those little corpses and that's okay, because it happened a little bit after, not immediately.

That's actually a pretty normal reaction, to alienate the perpetrator of an atrocity. Could you imagine someone like you, who shared your values doing something like this? What would that say about you and your values? Of course you'd look for something that differentiates him from you.


How about "he's a f*cking nutjob that figured shooting someone was a reasonable response to leaving te debate team"?

Does that work? Cause I'm not a f*cking nutjob.
 
2013-12-15 09:43:12 AM

rzrwiresunrise: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: It's sad that every time one of these things happens, people are, within hours, trying to assess the political views of the shooter. If that's the first thing that occurs to you when these stories break, something's wrong.

If it's "within hours," it sounds like no, it's not the first thing.

So, it's okay if you're doing it before the bodies are even cold. You're sitting there just hoping the guy has views opposite yours so you can make some hay out of those little corpses and that's okay, because it happened a little bit after, not immediately.

That's actually a pretty normal reaction, to alienate the perpetrator of an atrocity. Could you imagine someone like you, who shared your values doing something like this? What would that say about you and your values? Of course you'd look for something that differentiates him from you.


People like this usually have mental conditions the pathology of which is often complex and cannot simply be explained by values or political ideology. It may be human nature to want to believe you have little to nothing in common with the perpetrator, but when these stories break, you'll see people in FARK threads debating politics before they even have the shooter in custody or before he's dead.
 
2013-12-15 09:43:37 AM

Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: It's sad that every time one of these things happens, people are, within hours, trying to assess the political views of the shooter. If that's the first thing that occurs to you when these stories break, something's wrong.

If it's "within hours," it sounds like no, it's not the first thing.

So, it's okay if you're doing it before the bodies are even cold. You're sitting there just hoping the guy has views opposite yours so you can make some hay out of those little corpses and that's okay, because it happened a little bit after, not immediately.


I bet your fun to be around when watching NFL plays that are "under review".
 
2013-12-15 09:43:55 AM

bulldg4life: rzrwiresunrise: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: It's sad that every time one of these things happens, people are, within hours, trying to assess the political views of the shooter. If that's the first thing that occurs to you when these stories break, something's wrong.

If it's "within hours," it sounds like no, it's not the first thing.

So, it's okay if you're doing it before the bodies are even cold. You're sitting there just hoping the guy has views opposite yours so you can make some hay out of those little corpses and that's okay, because it happened a little bit after, not immediately.

That's actually a pretty normal reaction, to alienate the perpetrator of an atrocity. Could you imagine someone like you, who shared your values doing something like this? What would that say about you and your values? Of course you'd look for something that differentiates him from you.

How about "he's a f*cking nutjob that figured shooting someone was a reasonable response to leaving te debate team"?

Does that work? Cause I'm not a f*cking nutjob.


What he said ^^^^
 
2013-12-15 09:45:33 AM

Nabb1: Oh, sorry, wouldn't want you to miss the chance to feel validated by dead kids. Have to get to the important stuff right away.


Again with the conflation of "right away" and "within hours"? Come on, man. You don't expect anyone to buy that do you?
 
2013-12-15 09:46:04 AM
1984 by George Orwell
an erotic novel of a Big Brother that loves to watch
 
2013-12-15 09:47:48 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Oh, sorry, wouldn't want you to miss the chance to feel validated by dead kids. Have to get to the important stuff right away.

Again with the conflation of "right away" and "within hours"? Come on, man. You don't expect anyone to buy that do you?


Whatever makes you feel better about wanting to score political points before the families of the dead have been notified.
 
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