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(AsiaOne Digital)   Experts say there is a fine line between ranting online as a catharsis release and just being a troll. "It's like taking drugs -- it makes you feel good for a while but once the effect wears off, you will feel as bad as before, if not worse"   (digitalone.com.sg) divider line 28
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2013-12-15 12:21:20 AM
What the fark did I just read?

Secondly.. Why did I actually read that?
 
2013-12-15 12:27:53 AM
That's not true, I feel fine later.

And that includes ranting on the internet too.
 
2013-12-15 01:34:29 AM
assholism is a real disease.
 
2013-12-15 02:55:43 AM
The last time I sent a rant to someone (email, based on an online story), I got back a personal reply that included a job offer.

/YMMV
 
2013-12-15 02:56:49 AM
The worst trolls are the ones who decide they are going to hang out on newspaper websites, and decide the comments is the place do do their teabaggery opinion pieces. The worst is when this bleeds over to the sports/entertainment sections.
 
2013-12-15 03:07:53 AM
I've been dealing with TERFs all day on twitter. It's like they desperately want to be the mean girls table in HS 2.0

I seriously do not get it. I'll never get why some adults get their jollies being shiats. I get why kids do it. And I'm a cis white woman fed up with a wee teeny tiny amount of their bullshiat directed at me today because I spoke up in defense of others. I would spend all day punching people in the farking face if I had to deal with this kind of shiat on a regular basis. It's seriously no wonder that some oppressed groups have high suicide rates. Constant nastiness from a minority of douchenozzles loudly and constantly directed at vulnerable minorities can sound like a majority voice. It's astounding the harm that actual bullies can do, even when they compose a very small percentage of people.

I used to pass it by, figure ignoring it was best. Newp. Not any more. I won't continue to engage them, but I will stand up and call out the bullshiat and point out when people are being terrible human beings. Otherwise the shiatbags seriously think they're just saying what everyone else really thinks.

fark. That. Noise.
 
2013-12-15 03:33:42 AM
The anonymity of the internet allows people to get away with behavior they'd never attempt in person. It's like you never see PETA protesters throwing fake blood on leather wearing Hell's Angels.
 
2013-12-15 03:46:03 AM
Its About time that I am Starting to realize IM not the One With the problem its you, you treat me this way because of your own demons IM done being ditched I am done feeling lonely I am done trying to be all of your expectations What happened to the MAN I Met SO many years ago Ive ALWAYS Been good to you T.ve Always tried to put myself on your Pedastool NO Matter What I do I Just cant reach the top Whatever is at the top is Not worth the Verbal and mental Abuse IM expected to take along the way You think TM a JOKE you only Keep me here because I take Care of the kids and your dogs and cleaning everything including Your laundry you almost made me Cry while at or daughters Dr, appointment because you Felt the need to yell at me because you had to do Your own Laundry and Made look badand actually had me Feeling bad about like it was my Fault IF there any guy reading this do Something to help out a little extra it Will mean the world to your Signifact other Everyone in the worlds Knows that horrible Feeling like your heart is being ripped From your Chest and Stomped on yeah tha Feeling... that What Ive been living everyday like Feeling worthless Unappreciated helpless angry Sad I want answers I want to Know what Could I have done to you to deserve this NOW I see its not what Iul done, its what Past loves have done, they tainted YOU you turn everything into what she did it wasOver 7- years ago Stop Comparing it to me Ive never hurt you the way She did, and she never had to endure the surrenng that biatch left behind Maybe IM Just not good enough mostly I freeze up when YOU Start to yell at me its the way Ive Sheltered myself For my whole life Thank you to Anyone out there who read this you heard me When none else can see that I need help For a Second You Stepped into a strangers world Felt the pain and know you made a difference to me
 
2013-12-15 04:20:27 AM
The font and style of that article should be considered trolling. Possibly the content, too, but I can't be sure because I didn't read it.
 
2013-12-15 05:05:42 AM

red5ish: The anonymity of the internet allows people to get away with behavior they'd never attempt in person. It's like you never see PETA protesters throwing fake blood on leather wearing Hell's Angels.


I will have you know I am much, much more civilized online than I am in reality.
 
2013-12-15 05:06:28 AM

red5ish: The anonymity of the internet allows people to get away with behavior they'd never attempt in person. It's like you never see PETA protesters throwing fake blood on leather wearing Hell's Angels.


What the f**k did you just f**king say about me, you little biatch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Fark Trolls, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Reddit, and I have over 300 confirmed pwns. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fark out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my farking words. You think you can get away with saying that shiat to me over the Internet? Think again, f**ker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Core and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shiat. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your f**king tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shiat fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're farking dead, kiddo.
 
2013-12-15 05:07:37 AM

Confabulat: red5ish: The anonymity of the internet allows people to get away with behavior they'd never attempt in person. It's like you never see PETA protesters throwing fake blood on leather wearing Hell's Angels.

I will have you know I am much, much more civilized online than I am in reality.


Well, you smell better, but that doesn't really count.
 
2013-12-15 05:33:53 AM

jso2897: Confabulat: red5ish: The anonymity of the internet allows people to get away with behavior they'd never attempt in person. It's like you never see PETA protesters throwing fake blood on leather wearing Hell's Angels.

I will have you know I am much, much more civilized online than I am in reality.

Well, you smell better, but that doesn't really count.


true that. If Fark could import my stench after a good 72-hour vodka bender, I reckon I could clear out a thread pretty fast.
 
2013-12-15 05:48:13 AM
Those people who are attracted to rant sites are usually people who are already high in their anger traits and nothing can stop them from expressing themselves in such an uncouth manner.

coont
 
2013-12-15 06:19:43 AM
FTA ""Some people become aggressive and act out violently by breaking things and hurting others physically. Other people turn their anger and frustration inwards and start indulging in self-destructive behaviour like alcohol and drugs.
"Then, there are those who rant.""


And in contrast to drugs or violence, it is completely legal. We have demonised people who drink so now we must do our best to demonise people who realise how crap the people around them are and just finding it too much to keep silent about...
 
2013-12-15 06:23:49 AM

jso2897: Confabulat: red5ish: The anonymity of the internet allows people to get away with behavior they'd never attempt in person. It's like you never see PETA protesters throwing fake blood on leather wearing Hell's Angels.

I will have you know I am much, much more civilized online than I am in reality.

Well, you smell better, but that doesn't really count.


Wasn't there a story on Fark some months ago about Peta people doing just that?  As I recall it didn't end well, unless it was an Onion link and I forgot...
 
2013-12-15 06:59:43 AM
I have felt bad after unfairly ranting on someone online. I've even, on rare occasions, gone back and apologized publicly for my tone.

One thing I've never felt bad for, though, is putting a bully in his place or pulling the mat out from under a troll so he instead gets trolled. For those, I remain forever proud.
 
2013-12-15 07:38:36 AM
Seven Proxies was my college DJ name.
 
2013-12-15 08:27:07 AM

Delta1212: The font and style of that article should be considered trolling. Possibly the content, too, but I can't be sure because I didn't read it.


Yeah.  Can someone teach that "writer" how to form a paragraph please?
 
2013-12-15 09:33:23 AM

Bucky Katt: assholism is a real disease.



and rampant in america.
 
2013-12-15 09:34:13 AM

GWSuperfan: The last time I sent a rant to someone (email, based on an online story), I got back a personal reply that included a job offer.

/YMMV



hopefully, it wasn't an offer to perform a blow job.
 
2013-12-15 10:20:42 AM
DNRTFA, but I'm guessing from Subster's succinct synopsis that there is a parallel with email in online rants.  Years ago I picked up the good habit of always pausing, and thinking twice and sending a message if I was impassioned about the subject.  In an emotional state?  (Or drunk?)  Then sit back and take a deep breath. Either edit, or cancel and STFU.
 
2013-12-15 12:27:44 PM
Amateurs

/DNRTFA
 
2013-12-15 01:37:25 PM
I troll.  I troll when I'm bored or have 15-20 minutes to kill.

Trolling has taught me some of the most important life lessons you can learn.  For example, I'm still amazed at how, no matter how ridiculous of a claim I make, if I present it well....SOMEONE will agree with me.  Be yourself, kids.  Whatever it is you think about X, there are people who agree.

I also remember, back during my first days on the internet, actually caring what other people thought.  My first BBS had some super weird Star Trek role-playing game they'd talk about (the actual game took place on IRC).  I remember trying to join in and then being made fun of for not actually knowing enough about Star Trek, and it like really hurt.  After trolling I've learned the things people say don't actually affect me.  I've also learned that, no matter what you do, no matter how friendly you try to be, you are going to offend a LOT of people.  You like X?  Well, lots of people hate you for it.  So, who cares?  Like what you like.

And even though my grammar and spelling suck pretty bad, it has improved 100x since I started trolling.  The petty arguments back and forth (which I enjoy and presumably the people arguing with me enjoy, or they wouldn't participate) have done a really good job of helping me write.  I'm not saying I'm a good writer, but I'm so much better than I used to be.  Writing a one page essay for class used to be a big deal.  Now?  Meh, I can write a page on any crap imaginable.  It's even improved my Google-Fu, since I regularly take absurd positions and then frantically try to find some legit sounding links to back up my claims.

My advice to kids out there - go and troll!  Troll your little hearts out!  The world needs more trolls.
 
2013-12-15 07:49:27 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: It's even improved my Google-Fu, since I regularly take absurd positions and then frantically try to find some legit sounding links to back up my claims.


What I hate is taking a position and the relevant keywords just happen to yield everything from health advice to physics of a black hole and electronics sales and pokemon cards, yet, absolutely nothing within the first 5 pages of what I'm looking for.

Fark_Guy_Rob: 've also learned that, no matter what you do, no matter how friendly you try to be, you are going to offend a LOT of people.


Even when it's a matter of facts and you are correct, also sincerely polite an helpful, this will happen.  I figure, if people are going to be assholes to me, I may as well feed into it. I don't troll per se, but I do get belligerent with certain types of people. I don't do it to get their goat like a sadist(some trolls are just unhinged), I do it so that they lay it all out when they get flustered, so that I can point at how crazy it is.  I can always mock myself and say, But MOM, he started it!

It's the internet, sometimes people need to just loosen up.  When they can't and it's Serious Business, that's when I lay it on thick.

And, of course, you hone all sorts of skills as you said.  It's mental exercise, it can develop a good sense of empathy to a lot of things, which in turn can help with gaining a working knowledge of a lot of things.  It's akin to learning multiple languages, which bring new idea's.

Some trolls are more simple, never changing or learning, be it sadistic, genuine misanthropes, or just perpetually confused kids, there's not much innovation or thought happening.

Some of the best grow and learn and better themselves even as they act like an idiot.

More or less, I'm with you, you damned moran.
 
2013-12-15 09:37:27 PM
I don't troll. My rants are real: what y'all see me posting here is really what I think and feel.

Or don't you believe anybody can actually be "weird?"

That said, what a stupid article. I rant online because nobody in my real life would want to hear it if there were any real people in my pathetic excuse for an existence.

I need a nap now.
 
2013-12-16 11:18:13 AM
Meh, trolling can be theraputic.  I've been slowly dwindling away at some shiat Stain from Pakistan (name is "Avijidit") for a few weeks because he's the unfortunate bastard Dell assigned to handle my case.  Dell failed hard, and this Cowardly coont Rag couldn't learn enough English to help me, so he's been evading answering my questions.

after a while of reminding him that he's a liar and a coward, I broke him, and got him to call me crying with a manager on the phone asking me what they could give me to get me to stop.  They're sorry I couldn't understand "Avijidit," but they really wanted to make my issue right. Since I don't want another farking Dell, i told them a video of "Avijidit" eating a motherboard would suffice.  They haven't sent it, but I also haven't stopped trolling this Sand Digging fark.  If they call again, I'm strongly considering asking if he'll kill himself.

farking Dell.

//but TFA is wrong.  I definitely feel good going off on this guy, who definitely deserves it.  Also, if he eventually does eat a motherboard for me, I'll feel good for quite a while about living up to my word and leaving the guy alone.  Nobody directs their incompetencery at me and gets away with it.  Nobody.
 
2013-12-16 04:56:11 PM

The One True TheDavid: I don't troll. My rants are real: what y'all see me posting here is really what I think and feel.

Or don't you believe anybody can actually be "weird?"

That said, what a stupid article. I rant online because nobody in my real life would want to hear it if there were any real people in my pathetic excuse for an existence.

I need a nap now.


That's the only reason most people get on fark.

If not "not want to hear" then people you don't want to piss off.  Typically you don't want to talk about politics and religion with people you care about, you'll find out that you hate them or visa versa.

You only get intellectual or contrary with people you don't care about and that don't care about you.
 
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