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2013-12-15 02:34:41 AM

Frank N Stein: IlGreven: sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.

For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.

You think any gun with some glass bolted to the top is a sniper rifle, don't you?


Unless the glass is a snow globe. Then the gun is a Christmas decoration.
 
2013-12-15 02:35:33 AM

IlGreven: sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.

For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.


I've used my nagant to hunt deer on many occasions. One of the most famous shots in WW2 was taken by a Russian sniper and a nagant. The deer don't stand a chance when you shoot them in the head.

/ they don't run far either
 
2013-12-15 02:35:36 AM
When they did this in Australia they would buy everything. Working or not. Legal or not, No questions asked.  The buyback here just happened to coincide with a great increase in penalty for having an illegal weapon.  Gun crime almost vanished overnight.
 
2013-12-15 02:36:16 AM
So....they accept the guns "no questions asked," but before destroying them, check if they've been used in any criminal activity. That doesn't really add up to me. If they're publicizing that they're checking the histories of these guns, I feel like that would discourage the unsavory types from turning in their firearms.

/not a gun owner myself, but practically all my family and friends are
//nothing against legally owning a gun and knowing how to safely use it, preferably via a series of lessons with a firearms instructor
 
2013-12-15 02:37:56 AM

IlGreven: sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.

For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.


For whatever it is they are using currently using them for. Shooting stuff, most likely.

I'd guess you could substitute a different gun, maybe. But why go through the trouble? They already have a perfectly functional gun.
 
2013-12-15 02:38:21 AM

butt_made_baby: When they did this in Australia they would buy everything. Working or not. Legal or not, No questions asked.  The buyback here just happened to coincide with a great increase in penalty for having an illegal weapon.  Gun crime almost vanished overnight.

 

But then the dingos ate your babies.
 
2013-12-15 02:38:46 AM
"Dumb: Gun buyback programs."

i18.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-15 02:39:20 AM
So some dumbass took a rifle worth $200 - $500, hacked it up making a "deer rifle" worth maybe $125  and then was paid $50 for it?
And this is news somewhere?
/and if was an actual WWII "sniper rifle", someone may want to tell him he robbed himself for over $1k

Then there were the recently stolen from "friends or family" guns. It would be more effective if they just did a "Heroin for Guns" program.

//stupid humans
 
2013-12-15 02:40:16 AM

stevarooni: iheartscotch: I'm kind of wondering about this "Japanese sniper rifle" thing. As far as I know; Japan really didn't have snipers; sure, they marksmen, but, snipers? They would have regarded sniping less than favorably. Especially with the huge revival of the bushido code preceding WW2. I'm betting it was a sporterized arisaka, with a modern scope, that was never a sniper rifle.

Yeah, the Japanese had sniper rifles,  iheartscotch, as variants of the Ariska Type 99 (MilitaryFactory.com).  There might have been a "revival of the bushido code", but the Japanese Imperial Army sure as hell weren't constrained by some ancient sense of honorable war, they fought to win and used dirty tricks when they had to.


I had known that the Japanese military used the bushido code to indoctrinate its populous. They must not have had too many snipers; or Iwo Jima and Okinawa would have been worse.
 
2013-12-15 02:40:44 AM

stevarooni: Yep,  Dow Jones, that's just  how gun buys [for destruction] work; mostly people getting rid of complete junk, and hoplophobes freeing themselves from the tyranny of having an old, inherited gun hanging around (that might be a $10,000 relic with true historical value).


The thought that some clueless twit would bring a historic relic firearm to one of these events to be shredded just makes my eyes get misty. Oh sure, its a beautiful artifact from a bygone era that was passed down through generations of your family, but fark the effort of getting it appraised or selling it to someone that will appreciate it (unlike you), just throw it in a farking shredder.

Hey, lets go to the history museum next, I hear they have a bunch of really old and dangerous knives a child might hurt themselves with. We'd better urn that farker to the ground!
 
2013-12-15 02:41:08 AM
Shirley a Japanese rifle from WWII is worth more than $50. He'll even Rick from Pawn Stars might pay more.
 
2013-12-15 02:41:53 AM
Why are gun buyback programs dumb again?
 
2013-12-15 02:42:11 AM
WW2 Japanese Sniper Rifle? Like nothing more than Arisaka rifle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arisaka

Even your basic hunting rifle is likely better than any Arisaka that has been sitting around since WWII in some ones closet.
 
2013-12-15 02:42:16 AM

butt_made_baby: When they did this in Australia they would buy everything. Working or not. Legal or not, No questions asked.  The buyback here just happened to coincide with a great increase in penalty for having an illegal weapon.  Gun crime almost vanished overnight.


Now it's mostly knife crime?

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2013-12-15 02:43:58 AM

IlGreven: sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.

For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.


So funny story-

Today I was out shooting in the desert with the wife. She has a Remington 700 chambered in 7mm (same model that the Army bases the M-24 on). I had my Ruger Scout (.308 Winchester- basically the same as the military 7.62x51 round) and my Tikka T3 in 300 WSM (.30 caliber). The Tikka is my hunting rifle, and it packs more knockdown power than most rifles the military is fielding today, with a few exceptions such as the .50 BMG and 338 Lapua.

The guys shooting near us were having a grand old time shooting up the desert, but between their inexperience and the growing pile of Budweiser bottles, they couldn't hit the 1 pound jar of Tannerite they set about 100 yards out. One of the guys staggered over and asked if I wanted to shoot their target. Now 100 yards is nothing, and the shot was easily made. The guys all cheered at the explosion and they hailed my Great Feat of Marksmanship. I asked them why they had me come over, and one of the guys said "well you have that cool sniper rifle there". Well, sorry guys, but this "sniper rifle" capable of shooting 4" groups at 600 yards is nothing but a hunting rifle.

That's really what sniper rifles are. They're just hunting rifles. The first sniper rifles WERE hunting rifles as in the early days of sniping, the military really didn't field anything acceptable for precision shooting, and up until Vietnam, most believed that sniping was not a soldier's profession. Most sniper rifles, except for the big boys like the Barrett or MacMillan started out as civilian rifles. The M-24 that I shot while in the Army started out as a Remington 700 just like my wife's, and they just replace the stock, add a Leo scope, Harris bipod and make it all black. Same action as a 700, same caliber (.308 Winchester). My wife's 700 is capable of engaging a target (deer) 500+ yards, and its completely stock. I've taken shots past 800 yards with my Tikka. Are these sniper rifles?

Typically, while the military occasionally makes a leap ahead of the civilians in terms of technology, the military is more often than not the ones who are militarizing civilian firearms, accessories, and techniques.
 
2013-12-15 02:44:10 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: FTFA: "No assault-style weapons of the type Moore said are becoming the weapon of choice for criminals were turned in."

Bullshiat. The rate of usage for "assault weapons" in crime has held steady at around 2% for the last 30 years. I expect lies, but this one is just preposterous.


Cool. What's the number when used in murder sprees that kill over 5 people? We're not saying we're gunna stop crime, but isn't it nice not to have mass murder?
 
2013-12-15 02:45:19 AM

howdoibegin: Why are gun buyback programs dumb again?


Some people in this thread touched on the reason why, but it essentially boils down to this: Politicians use tax money for a publicity campaign that does absolutely nothing to combat gun violence/get guns out of dangerous hands.
 
2013-12-15 02:45:31 AM

howdoibegin: Adolf Oliver Nipples: FTFA: "No assault-style weapons of the type Moore said are becoming the weapon of choice for criminals were turned in."

Bullshiat. The rate of usage for "assault weapons" in crime has held steady at around 2% for the last 30 years. I expect lies, but this one is just preposterous.

Cool. What's the number when used in murder sprees that kill over 5 people? We're not saying we're gunna stop crime, but isn't it nice not to have mass murder?


You are correct; mass murder is entirely impossible without use of a rifle featuring a pistol grip and adjustable stock.
 
2013-12-15 02:45:47 AM

Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.


This has to be a troll. People don't actually believe that, do they? 'As powerful as a sniper rifle'? 'Military assault calibers'? Seriously?

You need to put down that Time magazine and do some research. If you want to be afraid of being shot with something, be afraid of having a leg blown off with some old geezer's elk rifle. If I have to get shot with ANY kind of rifle, I'm hoping it will be an 'assault' rifle with military rounds. A gut shot from a soft nose .300 Weatherby will spray organ chunks for 30 feet.
 
2013-12-15 02:46:01 AM

iheartscotch: I had known that the Japanese military used the bushido code to indoctrinate its populous. They must not have had too many snipers; or Iwo Jima and Okinawa would have been worse.


Eh, no army ever has enough snipers for their tastes.  A beach filled with snipers, the air filled with planes, and the U.S. Navy plagued by an entire Navy of Japanese ships all there at the same time.  Poop in one hand, wish in the other, and tell me which one gets full first.  :D  Apparently the Japanese started to develop a stronger sniper program after they ran into a good number of snipers in China.
 
2013-12-15 02:47:16 AM

ElLoco: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

This has to be a troll. People don't actually believe that, do they? 'As powerful as a sniper rifle'? 'Military assault calibers'? Seriously?

You need to put down that Time magazine and do some research. If you want to be afraid of being shot with something, be afraid of having a leg blown off with some old geezer's elk rifle. If I have to get shot with ANY kind of rifle, I'm hoping it will be an 'assault' rifle with military rounds. A gut shot from a soft nose .300 Weatherby will spray organ chunks for 30 feet.


Relax. He's being sarcastic.
 
2013-12-15 02:47:24 AM

howdoibegin: Why are gun buyback programs dumb again?


Why is prayer dumb?
 
2013-12-15 02:47:45 AM

howdoibegin: Adolf Oliver Nipples: FTFA: "No assault-style weapons of the type Moore said are becoming the weapon of choice for criminals were turned in."

Bullshiat. The rate of usage for "assault weapons" in crime has held steady at around 2% for the last 30 years. I expect lies, but this one is just preposterous.

Cool. What's the number when used in murder sprees that kill over 5 people? We're not saying we're gunna stop crime, but isn't it nice not to have mass murder?


Yeah, we probably should restrict people from having bombs.
 
2013-12-15 02:49:47 AM

CthulhuCalling: IlGreven: sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.

For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.

So funny story-

Today I was out shooting in the desert with the wife. She has a Remington 700 chambered in 7mm (same model that the Army bases the M-24 on). I had my Ruger Scout (.308 Winchester- basically the same as the military 7.62x51 round) and my Tikka T3 in 300 WSM (.30 caliber). The Tikka is my hunting rifle, and it packs more knockdown power than most rifles the military is fielding today, with a few exceptions such as the .50 BMG and 338 Lapua.

The guys shooting near us were having a grand old time shooting up the desert, but between their inexperience and the growing pile of Budweiser bottles, they couldn't hit the 1 pound jar of Tannerite they set about 100 yards out. One of the guys staggered over and asked if I wanted to shoot their target. Now 100 yards is nothing, and the shot was easily made. The guys all cheered at the explosion and they hailed my Great Feat of Marksmanship. I asked them why they had me come over, and one of the guys said "well you have that cool sniper rifle there". Well, sorry guys, but this "sniper rifle" capable of shooting 4" groups at 600 yards is nothing but a hunting rifle.

That's really what sniper rifles are. They're just hunting rifles. The first sniper rifles WERE hunting rifles as in the early days of sniping, the military really didn't field anything acceptable for precision shooting, and up un ...


That's not a funny story. That's like me thinking it'd be awesome to tell you how knowledgeable I am about various strains of vegetables. I know my vegetables, check out my domain knowledge!
 
2013-12-15 02:50:13 AM

howdoibegin: Cool. What's the number when used in murder sprees that kill over 5 people? We're not saying we're gunna stop crime, but isn't it nice not to have mass murder?


The largest mass killing in a school in the United States was in Bath Township, Michigan, in 1927, and involved explosives (wiki).
 
2013-12-15 02:51:15 AM
Chicago's had those programs for years, never worked. Always wondered if a few crackheads ever traded in some stolen guns for some cash, pretty sure that one's happened.

Not quite sure if they had a ban on illegal guns, but they did have a supposed 'no questions asked' thing.
 
2013-12-15 02:51:21 AM

Frank N Stein: Relax. He's being sarcastic.


Ok. Whew.

I just, you know... you hear about people believing that stuff. It's hard to tell in text format.
 
2013-12-15 02:51:44 AM

howdoibegin: CthulhuCalling: IlGreven: sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.

For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.

So funny story-

Today I was out shooting in the desert with the wife. She has a Remington 700 chambered in 7mm (same model that the Army bases the M-24 on). I had my Ruger Scout (.308 Winchester- basically the same as the military 7.62x51 round) and my Tikka T3 in 300 WSM (.30 caliber). The Tikka is my hunting rifle, and it packs more knockdown power than most rifles the military is fielding today, with a few exceptions such as the .50 BMG and 338 Lapua.

The guys shooting near us were having a grand old time shooting up the desert, but between their inexperience and the growing pile of Budweiser bottles, they couldn't hit the 1 pound jar of Tannerite they set about 100 yards out. One of the guys staggered over and asked if I wanted to shoot their target. Now 100 yards is nothing, and the shot was easily made. The guys all cheered at the explosion and they hailed my Great Feat of Marksmanship. I asked them why they had me come over, and one of the guys said "well you have that cool sniper rifle there". Well, sorry guys, but this "sniper rifle" capable of shooting 4" groups at 600 yards is nothing but a hunting rifle.

That's really what sniper rifles are. They're just hunting rifles. The first sniper rifles WERE hunting rifles as in the early days of sniping, the military really didn't field anything acceptable for precision shooting, and up un ...

That's not a funny story. That's like me thinking it'd be awesome to tell you how knowledgeable I am about various strains of vegetables. I know my vegetables, check out my domain knowledge!


Iunno, man, I just completely lost it at "tannerite."

Lol, tannerite.
 
2013-12-15 02:51:48 AM

howdoibegin: Adolf Oliver Nipples: FTFA: "No assault-style weapons of the type Moore said are becoming the weapon of choice for criminals were turned in."

Bullshiat. The rate of usage for "assault weapons" in crime has held steady at around 2% for the last 30 years. I expect lies, but this one is just preposterous.

Cool. What's the number when used in murder sprees that kill over 5 people? We're not saying we're gunna stop crime, but isn't it nice not to have mass murder?


Very few, actually. Consider firstly that "mass shootings' (4+ murders via gun by one person at one place at one time) take less that 200 hundred lives a year. Consider secondly that even the most deadly of shooting sprees (Lubys and Virgina Tech) the weapon of choice were handguns. In short, semiautomatic rifles aren't the problem and its pretty wasteful to go after them.

Mass murderers are the problem, and without guns they'll use arson (47 lives), arson again (198 lives), car bombs, crashes, whatever.
 
2013-12-15 02:52:51 AM

howdoibegin: Adolf Oliver Nipples: FTFA: "No assault-style weapons of the type Moore said are becoming the weapon of choice for criminals were turned in."

Bullshiat. The rate of usage for "assault weapons" in crime has held steady at around 2% for the last 30 years. I expect lies, but this one is just preposterous.

Cool. What's the number when used in murder sprees that kill over 5 people? We're not saying we're gunna stop crime, but isn't it nice not to have mass murder?


Turns out that pistols are still the favoured weapons in that case. Also, pump action shotguns have been used as well (the Naval Yard shooting, for example). Rifles/carbines are just not used in crimes that often.
 
2013-12-15 02:54:14 AM

sycraft: howdoibegin: Adolf Oliver Nipples: FTFA: "No assault-style weapons of the type Moore said are becoming the weapon of choice for criminals were turned in."

Bullshiat. The rate of usage for "assault weapons" in crime has held steady at around 2% for the last 30 years. I expect lies, but this one is just preposterous.

Cool. What's the number when used in murder sprees that kill over 5 people? We're not saying we're gunna stop crime, but isn't it nice not to have mass murder?

Turns out that pistols are still the favoured weapons in that case. Also, pump action shotguns have been used as well (the Naval Yard shooting, for example). Rifles/carbines are just not used in crimes that often.


The obvious solution is to expand the definition of "assault weapon" to include any firearm model ever used in a homicide. As the term "assault weapon" is entirely arbitrary, such alteration is fully justified.

The state of California attempted to enact such an expansion, but the state governor -- evidently in the pocket of the National Rifle Association -- vetoed the legislation.
 
2013-12-15 02:54:30 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers
 
2013-12-15 02:55:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA

 Gun control does work.    In this country people were heavily against any reforms on guns at all.     It is illegal to own a semi automatic rifle.   It is illegal to own any rifle or shotgun with high capacity magazines.  People got over it.  Besides the resounding reasoning of MURICA why do you need a large caliber semi automatic weapon with a high capacity magazine?
 
2013-12-15 02:56:13 AM

butt_made_baby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA

 Gun control does work.    In this country people were heavily against any reforms on guns at all.     It is illegal to own a semi automatic rifle.   It is illegal to own any rifle or shotgun with high capacity magazines.  People got over it.  Besides the resounding reasoning of MURICA why do you need a large caliber semi automatic weapon with a high capacity magazine?


Please define "large caliber" and "high capacity magazine".
 
2013-12-15 02:57:05 AM

sendtodave: Iunno, man, I just completely lost it at "tannerite."

Lol, tannerite.


well, when you're out in the desert with a case of Budweiser and "borrowed" dad's AR, you're probably highly entertained with Tannerite as well.
 
2013-12-15 02:57:13 AM

howdoibegin: Why are gun buyback programs dumb again?


They aren't necessarily dumb. They just don't curb gun crime, which is what they are intended to do. There are old widows with closets full of hunting rifles and war relics that they don't know what to do with, or how to even ensure they're safe. So these these programs might help them. But there is a potential historical loss depending on who knows what gets turned in. Thankfully these cops had sharp eyes and were fair about it.
 
2013-12-15 02:58:33 AM

butt_made_baby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA

 Gun control does work.    In this country people were heavily against any reforms on guns at all.     It is illegal to own a semi automatic rifle.   It is illegal to own any rifle or shotgun with high capacity magazines.  People got over it.  Besides the resounding reasoning of MURICA why do you need a large caliber semi automatic weapon with a high capacity magazine?


oh, this old chestnut again.
 
2013-12-15 02:58:51 AM

iheartscotch: stevarooni: iheartscotch: I'm kind of wondering about this "Japanese sniper rifle" thing. As far as I know; Japan really didn't have snipers; sure, they marksmen, but, snipers? They would have regarded sniping less than favorably. Especially with the huge revival of the bushido code preceding WW2. I'm betting it was a sporterized arisaka, with a modern scope, that was never a sniper rifle.

Yeah, the Japanese had sniper rifles,  iheartscotch, as variants of the Ariska Type 99 (MilitaryFactory.com).  There might have been a "revival of the bushido code", but the Japanese Imperial Army sure as hell weren't constrained by some ancient sense of honorable war, they fought to win and used dirty tricks when they had to.

I had known that the Japanese military used the bushido code to indoctrinate its populous. They must not have had too many snipers; or Iwo Jima and Okinawa would have been worse.


I'm not a weapons expert, but according to several different documentaries I've seen, backed up by accounts that I've read, by the time Iwo Jima and Okinawa rolled around, the Japanese weren't just lacking in snipers, but their weapons were abysmally substandard and their lack of decent ammunition led to some units executing suicidal bayonet charges straight into the teeth of Allied machine gun fire. The whole Kamikaze phenomenon wasn't limited to airplanes.

If the aforementioned Japanese sniper rifle were made before the war or at it's outset, chances are it would be a very well-made weapon, albeit a truly unspectacular one. By what accounts I've read, the Japanese, unlike the Germans, placed very little value on infantry weapons. Now if the sniper rifle were one of those made toward or at the end of the war, firing it would literally be taking your life into your hands, as it would more than likely to blow up in your face. (I watched a documentary with a little Brit expert named Mike Loades, and he said he wouldn't fire a Japanese rifle made at the end of the war because it was too fragile and poorly made.)

My two cents. I'm not a weapons expert, as I said, but I am an avid history buff. I'd be more interested in the Japanese sniper rifle as a piece of history than I would as a weapon.
 
2013-12-15 02:59:45 AM

Dimensio: butt_made_baby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA

 Gun control does work.    In this country people were heavily against any reforms on guns at all.     It is illegal to own a semi automatic rifle.   It is illegal to own any rifle or shotgun with high capacity magazines.  People got over it.  Besides the resounding reasoning of MURICA why do you need a large caliber semi automatic weapon with a high capacity magazine?

Please define "large caliber" and "high capacity magazine".



Over 6.5mm and over ten rounds.      http://parliamentflagpost.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/australian-gun-laws . html
 
2013-12-15 03:00:35 AM
butt_made_baby: *link to a Daily Show segment*

You expect people to take you seriously?
 
2013-12-15 03:01:02 AM

Danger Avoid Death: Frank N Stein: IlGreven: sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.

For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.

You think any gun with some glass bolted to the top is a sniper rifle, don't you?

Unless the glass is a snow globe. Then the gun is a Christmas decoration.


"That's not a gun, its a lamp!" "Yeah but its loaded !"
 
2013-12-15 03:01:12 AM
Nowhere does it say that the illegal guns were refused. What it does say -- which is clear if you understand English -- is that only those with guns that met certain criteria were eligible for the gas cards. Don't you suspect that those with illegal weapons simply had those weapons confiscated? Do you really think the law enforcement officers said "that gun is illegal, you can keep it"?
 
2013-12-15 03:02:43 AM

Danger Avoid Death: If the aforementioned Japanese sniper rifle were made before the war or at it's outset, chances are it would be a very well-made weapon, albeit a truly unspectacular one. By what accounts I've read, the Japanese, unlike the Germans, placed very little value on infantry weapons. Now if the sniper rifle were one of those made toward or at the end of the war, firing it would literally be taking your life into your hands, as it would more than likely to blow up in your face. (I watched a documentary with a little Brit expert named Mike Loades, and he said he wouldn't fire a Japanese rifle made at the end of the war because it was too fragile and poorly made.)

My two cents. I'm not a weapons expert, as I said, but I am an avid history buff. I'd be more interested in the Japanese sniper rifle as a piece of history than I would as a weapon.


Same problem that the Germans had towards the end of the war, they were in a rush to get the weapons out the door and into the field that they took a lot of shortcuts. I'll admit that the Germans on their worst day in QA were probably still superior to what the Japanese were churning out, but as a historical piece... absolutely. Especially if the chrysanthemum cartouche is still intact.
 
2013-12-15 03:02:45 AM

Andulamb: Nowhere does it say that the illegal guns were refused. What it does say -- which is clear if you understand English -- is that only those with guns that met certain criteria were eligible for the gas cards. Don't you suspect that those with illegal weapons simply had those weapons confiscated? Do you really think the law enforcement officers said "that gun is illegal, you can keep it"?


Well, that's not very sporting, is it?

The cops just stole their illegal guns!
 
2013-12-15 03:02:48 AM

butt_made_baby: Dimensio: butt_made_baby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA

 Gun control does work.    In this country people were heavily against any reforms on guns at all.     It is illegal to own a semi automatic rifle.   It is illegal to own any rifle or shotgun with high capacity magazines.  People got over it.  Besides the resounding reasoning of MURICA why do you need a large caliber semi automatic weapon with a high capacity magazine?

Please define "large caliber" and "high capacity magazine".


Over 6.5mm and over ten rounds.      http://parliamentflagpost.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/australian-gun-laws . html


Then you advocate banning many popular hunting rifle calibers, despite rifles as a whole being less commonly utilized to commit murder than unarmed attacks. Please explain the rational and logical basis for establishing a ten-round magazine to be "standard" and an eleven-round magazine to be "high-capacity".
 
2013-12-15 03:03:21 AM

Andulamb: Nowhere does it say that the illegal guns were refused. What it does say -- which is clear if you understand English -- is that only those with guns that met certain criteria were eligible for the gas cards. Don't you suspect that those with illegal weapons simply had those weapons confiscated? Do you really think the law enforcement officers said "that gun is illegal, you can keep it"?


I'd hope so. But it is Louisiana, after all.
 
2013-12-15 03:04:29 AM

Frank N Stein: butt_made_baby: *link to a Daily Show segment*

You expect people to take you seriously?


You don't see the comedy aspect of the "BECAUSE MURICA AND MY SUV" reasoning behind your current gun laws?
 
2013-12-15 03:04:31 AM

butt_made_baby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA

 Gun control does work.    In this country people were heavily against any reforms on guns at all.     It is illegal to own a semi automatic rifle.   It is illegal to own any rifle or shotgun with high capacity magazines.  People got over it.  Besides the resounding reasoning of MURICA why do you need a large caliber semi automatic weapon with a high capacity magazine?


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Yeah, they worked really well, that is to say, not at all. At least criminals aren't able to get guns at all, right?
Oh wait Jeweller Angelos Koots admits to making sub-machine guns at his Seven Hills home and supplying them to biker groups
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"Backyard arms trader Angelos Koots admitted making up to 100 of the perfectly constructed MAC 10 machine guns - more commonly seen in war zones and believed to have been used in Sydney gang shootings - at his Seven Hills house.
The guns, sold with two magazines and a silencer, were of such quality that during "Mythbuster" style tests alongside a genuine MAC 10 they fired 600 rounds a minute.

Sydney District Court heard that Koots made the guns for an associate who had links to outlaw motorcycle gangs.
The high-powered made-to-order weapons were then sold at meetings organised by a Penrith gym owner and another syndicate member, with the transaction taking place opposite a McDonalds in Glenmore Park."

Well sure he's the only arms trafficker in Australia, right? Wrong!
"A LAKE Macquarie man who was making handguns  that fell into the hands of Newcastle drug dealers was jailed on Monday for four years and six months."


But hey, back to your statement: Why do you NEED religious liberty, or freedom of the press? Why do you NEED a court with presumption of innocence, why do you NEED protection from unreasonable searches and seizures? We could play this all day long.
 
2013-12-15 03:05:17 AM

butt_made_baby: Dimensio: butt_made_baby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA

 Gun control does work.    In this country people were heavily against any reforms on guns at all.     It is illegal to own a semi automatic rifle.   It is illegal to own any rifle or shotgun with high capacity magazines.  People got over it.  Besides the resounding reasoning of MURICA why do you need a large caliber semi automatic weapon with a high capacity magazine?

Please define "large caliber" and "high capacity magazine".


Over 6.5mm and over ten rounds.      http://parliamentflagpost.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/australian-gun-laws . html


Ah. Sweet. So these will be perfectly fine, then.

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Good to know where the line is.
 
2013-12-15 03:07:48 AM

butt_made_baby: Dimensio: butt_made_baby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA

 Gun control does work.    In this country people were heavily against any reforms on guns at all.     It is illegal to own a semi automatic rifle.   It is illegal to own any rifle or shotgun with high capacity magazines.  People got over it.  Besides the resounding reasoning of MURICA why do you need a large caliber semi automatic weapon with a high capacity magazine?

Please define "large caliber" and "high capacity magazine".


Over 6.5mm and over ten rounds.      http://parliamentflagpost.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/australian-gun-laws . html


you realize that .308 Winchester (7.62 mm) is one of the most popular hunting and sporting rounds in use? In fact you're asking to ban the entire .30 cal family - 300 Savage, 308 Winchester, 300 WM, 300 WSM, 30-06... in addition the third most popular hunting and sporting caliber, the 7-08, 7mm Magnum and the .270 Winchester? Do you intend for hunters to induce suffering on animals by requiring them to use calibers that are insufficient to quickly and humanely take game?

To what rationale is your limitation on 10 rounds for capacity?
 
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