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(Baton Rouge Advocate)   Dumb: Gun buyback programs. Even dumber: Refusing to take in illegal guns. You know, the ones everyone actually wants off the streets   (theadvocate.com) divider line 237
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2013-12-14 11:09:50 PM
I'll give anybody fifty bucks for a gun they own and don't want as long as it is not stolen or has a body on it.
 
2013-12-14 11:15:14 PM
I'll give anybody fifty-one bucks for a gun they own and don't want as long as it is not stolen or has a body on it.
 
2013-12-14 11:29:09 PM
ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.
 
2013-12-14 11:29:14 PM

violentsalvation: I'll give anybody fifty-one bucks for a gun they own and don't want as long as it is not stolen or has a body on it.


$51 bucks and I'm flexible on the body part.
 
TSD [TotalFark]
2013-12-14 11:33:30 PM
There's no headlines if illegal weapons are gone.
 
2013-12-14 11:37:20 PM
FTFA: "No assault-style weapons of the type Moore said are becoming the weapon of choice for criminals were turned in."

Bullshiat. The rate of usage for "assault weapons" in crime has held steady at around 2% for the last 30 years. I expect lies, but this one is just preposterous.
 
2013-12-14 11:51:36 PM
The only example that article mentioned of a gun that was refused was one that was so broken it couldn't possibly fire. It's not like they were rejecting sawed off shotguns and tommy guns with box mags.
 
2013-12-15 12:20:20 AM

HotWingAgenda: The only example that article mentioned of a gun that was refused was one that was so broken it couldn't possibly fire. It's not like they were rejecting sawed off shotguns and tommy guns with box mags.


ftfa
Not everyone left the Living Faith Christian Center on Winboure Avenue with a Circle K gas card for turning their unused and unwanted guns in to law enforcement officials, though.
They did not meet the criteria to receive a $50 Circle K gas card because their weapons were illegal
 
2013-12-15 12:32:10 AM

Frank N Stein: HotWingAgenda: The only example that article mentioned of a gun that was refused was one that was so broken it couldn't possibly fire. It's not like they were rejecting sawed off shotguns and tommy guns with box mags.

ftfa
Not everyone left the Living Faith Christian Center on Winboure Avenue with a Circle K gas card for turning their unused and unwanted guns in to law enforcement officials, though.
They did not meet the criteria to receive a $50 Circle K gas card because their weapons were illegal


This is an example of agenda blindness.  He literally couldn't see that sentence because it disagreed with his assumptions.
 
2013-12-15 12:39:28 AM
i43.tinypic.com


"Ah! Run, he's got a board with a nail in it!"
 
2013-12-15 12:45:18 AM
This is what happens when you let good intentions get beshiatted by bureaucracy
 
2013-12-15 01:37:05 AM
$50 isn't a lot for gas.
 
2013-12-15 01:51:07 AM
50 bucks is a lot of venison
 
2013-12-15 01:56:44 AM

Bucky Katt: $50 isn't a lot for gas.


At $3.25 a gallon that's a little over 15 gallons.  That's enough for someone to drive to a few gun shows to buy more guns.
 
2013-12-15 01:59:43 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: FTFA: "No assault-style weapons of the type Moore said are becoming the weapon of choice for criminals were turned in."

Bullshiat. The rate of usage for "assault weapons" in crime has held steady at around 2% for the last 30 years. I expect lies, but this one is just preposterous.


I caught that bit too. The only "assault weapons" becoming popular are the ones being brought in illegally from Mexico and those biatches are full on military assault rifles.
 
2013-12-15 02:00:53 AM
What I don't understand is why Baton Rouge  sold these guns to citizens if they were just going to buy them back later.  :-\
 
2013-12-15 02:01:06 AM

Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.


No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.
 
2013-12-15 02:02:02 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: FTFA: "No assault-style weapons of the type Moore said are becoming the weapon of choice for criminals were turned in."

Bullshiat. The rate of usage for "assault weapons" in crime has held steady at around 2% for the last 30 years. I expect lies, but this one is just preposterous.


For fair consideration: telling the truth would not be as conducive toward attaining popular support for unreasonable restrictions on popular sporting rifles.
 
2013-12-15 02:02:48 AM
It drew dozens. Dozens!

/not news
 
2013-12-15 02:02:56 AM

jayphat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: FTFA: "No assault-style weapons of the type Moore said are becoming the weapon of choice for criminals were turned in."

Bullshiat. The rate of usage for "assault weapons" in crime has held steady at around 2% for the last 30 years. I expect lies, but this one is just preposterous.

I caught that bit too. The only "assault weapons" becoming popular are the ones being brought in illegally from Mexico and those biatches are full on military assault rifles.


You mean the ones that were sent to Mexico from the US?
 
2013-12-15 02:03:42 AM
Gun buybacks are for making people feel better, not stopping crime.  Just like gun control laws.
 
2013-12-15 02:03:57 AM

Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.


Not sure if trolling...
 
2013-12-15 02:04:10 AM
What really boggles my mind is that there's still people out there who don't realize how farking retardedly inefficient gun buyback programes are
 
2013-12-15 02:05:15 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Bullshiat. The rate of usage for "assault weapons" in crime has held steady at around 2% for the last 30 years. I expect lies, but this one is just preposterous.


Uh, is that actually "assault weapons" or  all rifles?
 
2013-12-15 02:07:24 AM

Frank N Stein: What really boggles my mind is that there's still people out there who don't realize how farking retardedly inefficient gun buyback programes are


They don't perform their  stated function, no, but they do act as masturbatory fantasies/hate-ons for those who want to show people that yes, there are still firearms out there...despite their best efforts to save people from them.  :-P  "Why, there could be an assault rifle in your grandfather's attic, and you might not even know it!"
 
2013-12-15 02:08:42 AM

PaLarkin: Bucky Katt: $50 isn't a lot for gas.

At $3.25 a gallon that's a little over 15 gallons.  That's enough for someone to drive to a few gun shows Walmart parking lots to buy more guns.


You know, because it's totally a real thing that you can legally transact any gun sale in your nearby suburban public space.

How come police don't offer $50 gas cards to turn in the crazy mass murderer wannabees and gang banger assassins?  Wouldn't that get to the real root of the problem?
 
2013-12-15 02:09:43 AM

Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.


Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.
 
2013-12-15 02:10:10 AM
why is there no hue and cry that all these people are exploiting the 'gun show loophole'? How dare they sell guns without background checks!
 
2013-12-15 02:12:45 AM

stevarooni: Frank N Stein: What really boggles my mind is that there's still people out there who don't realize how farking retardedly inefficient gun buyback programes are

They don't perform their  stated function, no, but they do act as masturbatory fantasies/hate-ons for those who want to show people that yes, there are still firearms out there...despite their best efforts to save people from them.  :-P  "Why, there could be an assault rifle in your grandfather's attic, and you might not even know it!"


This made the news out here in Chicago. About a year or so ago Chicago held a gun buyback program. A gun shop/shooting club got together and turned in a bunch of inoperable/worthless guns for $100 each (I think). That group then used the money to fund a youth shooting camp and publicized what they did. Plenty of people got buttwrecked about it, and even the police weren't too happy about it:
"We host the gun turn-in event on an annual basis to encourage residents to turn in their guns so that we take firearms off our streets, and it's unfortunate that this group is abusing a program intended to increase the safety of our communities."

Maximum trolling. 10/10
 
2013-12-15 02:13:12 AM
Didn't I read somewhere that major firearms manufacturers are the ones subsidizing the gift cards for these buy backs?
 
2013-12-15 02:13:39 AM

Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.


So, I guess we shouldn't be using .223 rounds to kill gophers eh?
 
2013-12-15 02:14:42 AM

sendtodave: I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.



Fun fact: It wasn't actually sniper rifle, even if it did have cheap optics on top of it.
 
2013-12-15 02:16:04 AM
I'm kind of wondering about this "Japanese sniper rifle" thing. As far as I know; Japan really didn't have snipers; sure, they marksmen, but, snipers? They would have regarded sniping less than favorably. Especially with the huge revival of the bushido code preceding WW2. I'm betting it was a sporterized arisaka, with a modern scope, that was never a sniper rifle.
 
2013-12-15 02:16:35 AM

Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.


Not sure if hoplophobe or trolling.  Most likely answer seeing as this is Fark...  hoplophobe.
 
2013-12-15 02:17:42 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Didn't I read somewhere that major firearms manufacturers are the ones subsidizing the gift cards for these buy backs?


I don't know what you read, DJatToD, but I've never heard that.  Could be.  Though I've heard it's largely Bloomburg and  Bloomburg-like folks bankrolling these kinds of things.  Local police supply the manpower and possibly venue, and the number of guns turned tend to be pretty low, so no matter who's paying for it, they get a lot of publicity for their political views for a very low price.
 
2013-12-15 02:18:34 AM

Smeggy Smurf: Not sure if hoplophobe or trolling.  Most likely answer seeing as this is Fark...  hoplophobe.


Seeing as how this is Fark, it's more likely Extreme Sarcasm™.
 
2013-12-15 02:21:46 AM

iheartscotch: I'm kind of wondering about this "Japanese sniper rifle" thing. As far as I know; Japan really didn't have snipers; sure, they marksmen, but, snipers? They would have regarded sniping less than favorably. Especially with the huge revival of the bushido code preceding WW2. I'm betting it was a sporterized arisaka, with a modern scope, that was never a sniper rifle.


Yeah, the Japanese had sniper rifles,  iheartscotch, as variants of the Ariska Type 99 (MilitaryFactory.com).  There might have been a "revival of the bushido code", but the Japanese Imperial Army sure as hell weren't constrained by some ancient sense of honorable war, they fought to win and used dirty tricks when they had to.
 
2013-12-15 02:22:52 AM

Frank N Stein: What really boggles my mind is that there's still people out there who don't realize how farking retardedly inefficient gun buyback programes are


I think most people and politicians realize how ineffective they are but they get a good pile of revolvers on a table and like to do a "tough on crime" photo op.
 
2013-12-15 02:22:57 AM
jayphat:
So, I guess we shouldn't be using .223 rounds to kill gophers eh?

I can get .223 locally for 50 cents a round, can't find .22 anywhere for less than $1.00 a round.  You do the math.
 
2013-12-15 02:23:47 AM

sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.


For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.
 
2013-12-15 02:23:56 AM

jayphat: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

So, I guess we shouldn't be using .223 rounds to kill gophers eh?


Well, I'm hoping that he's just trolling and we don't need to point out that "high powered sniper rifles" are patterned after civilian hunting rifles. Or that "calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles" often start as civilian calibers. My Tikka T3 is more precise and more powerful than most "high powered sniper rifles". Has anyone every seen a "low powered sniper rifle" for that matter?

M-24 = Remington 700.
5.56 NATO = .223 Remington (with minor differences)
 
2013-12-15 02:26:08 AM

IlGreven: sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.

For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.


Please describe the technical difference between a sniper rifle and a conventional hunting rifle.
 
2013-12-15 02:26:28 AM

IlGreven: sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.

For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.


You think any gun with some glass bolted to the top is a sniper rifle, don't you?
 
2013-12-15 02:26:33 AM

IlGreven: sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.

For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.


Accurate shooting at distance...
 
2013-12-15 02:26:57 AM

stevarooni: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Didn't I read somewhere that major firearms manufacturers are the ones subsidizing the gift cards for these buy backs?

I don't know what you read, DJatToD, but I've never heard that.  Could be.  Though I've heard it's largely Bloomburg and  Bloomburg-like folks bankrolling these kinds of things.  Local police supply the manpower and possibly venue, and the number of guns turned tend to be pretty low, so no matter who's paying for it, they get a lot of publicity for their political views for a very low price.


I may have just made that up...

I remember a few years back the ex's dad turned in a sawed off shotgun and got like $100 for it. He said it was mainly a bunch of old dudes turning in junky old rifles. There didn't seem to be any gang member types turning in handguns, shockingly enough.
 
2013-12-15 02:29:10 AM

jayphat: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

So, I guess we shouldn't be using .223 rounds to kill gophers eh?


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Carl recommends using specially-shaped plastic explosive charges.
 
2013-12-15 02:31:03 AM

Frank N Stein: IlGreven: sendtodave: Dimensio: Frank N Stein: ftfa: A high-powered Japanese sniper rifle

So a sporterized arisaka? The horror.

No private citizen has need to own a rifle as powerful as a sniper rifle.

Additionally, no private citizen has need to own a rifle chambered in calibers identical or similar to military assault rifles.

Well, the citizen that traded it in for a fifty buck gift certificate obviously didn't need it.

I'd guess all the citizens that didn't trade their sniper rifles in did still need them.

For what?

No, really; I want to know what a sniper rifle could be used for that another firearm could not be.

You think any gun with some glass bolted to the top is a sniper rifle, don't you?


Sniper rifles are really long and have gigantic scopes on top, and are usually covered in grass and twigs and stuff, oh and they have a tripod usually
 
2013-12-15 02:31:04 AM

Frank N Stein: What really boggles my mind is that there's still people out there who don't realize how farking retardedly inefficient ineffective gun buyback programes are


FTFA
 
2013-12-15 02:31:45 AM
Yep,  Dow Jones, that's just  how gun buys [for destruction] work; mostly people getting rid of complete junk, and hoplophobes freeing themselves from the tyranny of having an old, inherited gun hanging around (that might be a $10,000 relic with true historical value).
 
2013-12-15 02:32:09 AM
These gun buy backs are just all sorts of stupid.

WW2 Japanese Sniper Rifle? Sell it to some collector for way more than $50. It will sit in a gun safe for the rest of its existence only to be taken out for show and target shooting on rare occasion.

The only gun buybacks that seem to work are the ones where the gun geeks show up and offer wholesale prices or at least far better than the cops.
 
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