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(Gawker)   A 60-year-old old man caught in bed with an 11-year-old girl can get five years in prison. Unless you're in Italy and the 11-year-old says she loves him. Then there's no problem   (gawker.com) divider line 105
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2013-12-14 08:03:03 PM
You said "old" twice.
 
2013-12-14 08:16:33 PM
Italian Justice. Not even once.
 
2013-12-14 08:41:31 PM
In America, where the farthest back you can dig is about 200 odd years, we can still come up with some weird legal precedents. And when you go to a city like Rome, they have mere statues ten times the age of America. You can bet your bippy that lawyers, of all people, kept their meticulous records a little bit better than the elements kept the statues. Their legal records must dwarf ours by orders of magnitude. So one can't be surprised when crazy archaic rulings come down the pike.

It's like the story of the magic hole where a boy throws a rock in and it never hits the bottom, so the townsfolk start using it as a garbage dump. This goes on for weeks and everyone comes and pays lots of money to pour things into this magic hole. At the very end of the story, the boy is sitting in the town square when he sees something fall out of the sky. It's the rock. Nothing ever really goes away, it's just forgot for a time then returns. There's nearly three thousand years of precedence in Italy's hole.

God only knows what's going to fall out of the sky next. In the next trial, he might get ten years for letting a minor eat fish on a Friday in defiance of the Pope's edict or be crucified because "that's what we do to perverts in Roma" or get a dowry from the crown of a nanny goat for each year of his child-bride's life and nice plot of farmland to tend. Who knows?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-12-14 09:09:37 PM
I think there is still at least one state in America where statutory rape charges will be dropped if you marry her and stay married until she is legal.  That marriage may require parental consent or court approval, the same as any other marriage to a minor.
 
2013-12-14 09:19:37 PM
What is the equation again?  Your age, divided by 6, plus 2?

Nope, still doesn't work.
 
2013-12-14 09:19:49 PM

ZAZ: I think there is still at least one state in America where statutory rape charges will be dropped if you marry her and stay married until she is legal.  That marriage may require parental consent or court approval, the same as any other marriage to a minor.


Southern states.
 
2013-12-14 09:19:57 PM
Difficulty: not a priest.
 
2013-12-14 09:22:27 PM

doglover: In America, where the farthest back you can dig is about 200 odd years, we can still come up with some weird legal precedents. And when you go to a city like Rome, they have mere statues ten times the age of America. You can bet your bippy that lawyers, of all people, kept their meticulous records a little bit better than the elements kept the statues. Their legal records must dwarf ours by orders of magnitude. So one can't be surprised when crazy archaic rulings come down the pike.

It's like the story of the magic hole where a boy throws a rock in and it never hits the bottom, so the townsfolk start using it as a garbage dump. This goes on for weeks and everyone comes and pays lots of money to pour things into this magic hole. At the very end of the story, the boy is sitting in the town square when he sees something fall out of the sky. It's the rock. Nothing ever really goes away, it's just forgot for a time then returns. There's nearly three thousand years of precedence in Italy's hole.

God only knows what's going to fall out of the sky next. In the next trial, he might get ten years for letting a minor eat fish on a Friday in defiance of the Pope's edict or be crucified because "that's what we do to perverts in Roma" or get a dowry from the crown of a nanny goat for each year of his child-bride's life and nice plot of farmland to tend. Who knows?


It's also the difference between common law (court-interpreted, like we have in the US) and civil law (the statutes control, like most other countries, including Italy).  We have some weird-ass outdated laws, but nobody's been prosecuted under them in decades.  If someone were to try it, most of those laws would be struck down.  In civil law, though, if the statute says something, that's the final authority.  Far as I'm aware, judges don't get the option of invalidating a statute that's still validly on the books.
 
2013-12-14 09:22:42 PM
Italy, the Florida of Europe.
 
2013-12-14 09:23:12 PM

doglover: In America, where the farthest back you can dig is about 200 odd years, we can still come up with some weird legal precedents. And when you go to a city like Rome, they have mere statues ten times the age of America. You can bet your bippy that lawyers, of all people, kept their meticulous records a little bit better than the elements kept the statues. Their legal records must dwarf ours by orders of magnitude. So one can't be surprised when crazy archaic rulings come down the pike.

It's like the story of the magic hole where a boy throws a rock in and it never hits the bottom, so the townsfolk start using it as a garbage dump. This goes on for weeks and everyone comes and pays lots of money to pour things into this magic hole. At the very end of the story, the boy is sitting in the town square when he sees something fall out of the sky. It's the rock. Nothing ever really goes away, it's just forgot for a time then returns. There's nearly three thousand years of precedence in Italy's hole.

God only knows what's going to fall out of the sky next. In the next trial, he might get ten years for letting a minor eat fish on a Friday in defiance of the Pope's edict or be crucified because "that's what we do to perverts in Roma" or get a dowry from the crown of a nanny goat for each year of his child-bride's life and nice plot of farmland to tend. Who knows?


what the fark are you talking about
 
2013-12-14 09:25:07 PM

Kuoxasar: doglover: In America, where the farthest back you can dig is about 200 odd years, we can still come up with some weird legal precedents. And when you go to a city like Rome, they have mere statues ten times the age of America. You can bet your bippy that lawyers, of all people, kept their meticulous records a little bit better than the elements kept the statues. Their legal records must dwarf ours by orders of magnitude. So one can't be surprised when crazy archaic rulings come down the pike.

It's like the story of the magic hole where a boy throws a rock in and it never hits the bottom, so the townsfolk start using it as a garbage dump. This goes on for weeks and everyone comes and pays lots of money to pour things into this magic hole. At the very end of the story, the boy is sitting in the town square when he sees something fall out of the sky. It's the rock. Nothing ever really goes away, it's just forgot for a time then returns. There's nearly three thousand years of precedence in Italy's hole.

God only knows what's going to fall out of the sky next. In the next trial, he might get ten years for letting a minor eat fish on a Friday in defiance of the Pope's edict or be crucified because "that's what we do to perverts in Roma" or get a dowry from the crown of a nanny goat for each year of his child-bride's life and nice plot of farmland to tend. Who knows?

what the fark are you talking about


A bottomless pit.

grantuslove.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-14 09:25:41 PM

Last Man on Earth: doglover: In America, where the farthest back you can dig is about 200 odd years, we can still come up with some weird legal precedents. And when you go to a city like Rome, they have mere statues ten times the age of America. You can bet your bippy that lawyers, of all people, kept their meticulous records a little bit better than the elements kept the statues. Their legal records must dwarf ours by orders of magnitude. So one can't be surprised when crazy archaic rulings come down the pike.

It's like the story of the magic hole where a boy throws a rock in and it never hits the bottom, so the townsfolk start using it as a garbage dump. This goes on for weeks and everyone comes and pays lots of money to pour things into this magic hole. At the very end of the story, the boy is sitting in the town square when he sees something fall out of the sky. It's the rock. Nothing ever really goes away, it's just forgot for a time then returns. There's nearly three thousand years of precedence in Italy's hole.

God only knows what's going to fall out of the sky next. In the next trial, he might get ten years for letting a minor eat fish on a Friday in defiance of the Pope's edict or be crucified because "that's what we do to perverts in Roma" or get a dowry from the crown of a nanny goat for each year of his child-bride's life and nice plot of farmland to tend. Who knows?

It's also the difference between common law (court-interpreted, like we have in the US) and civil law (the statutes control, like most other countries, including Italy).  We have some weird-ass outdated laws, but nobody's been prosecuted under them in decades.  If someone were to try it, most of those laws would be struck down.  In civil law, though, if the statute says something, that's the final authority.  Far as I'm aware, judges don't get the option of invalidating a statute that's still validly on the books.


11 is too young to know the difference between being 'in love' and being grateful for a secure home. However, many countries don't have the for profit, screw everyone system that the USA does.
 
2013-12-14 09:26:44 PM

JoieD'Zen: ZAZ: I think there is still at least one state in America where statutory rape charges will be dropped if you marry her and stay married until she is legal.  That marriage may require parental consent or court approval, the same as any other marriage to a minor.

Southern states.


Certainly not in florida, we convict 18 years for getting blow jobs from 17 yr olds to 3-5 years prison or probation (usually no jail time just probation and a life on the sex offender list).
 
2013-12-14 09:30:37 PM
www.quickmeme.com

/Best I could find
 
2013-12-14 09:31:08 PM
"Fortunately for her Boss Masusmoto was a pedophile and at age 11 she got her revenge".
 
2013-12-14 09:31:46 PM
Or in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Somalia, etc.

Guessing no one else saw:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-12-14 09:31:58 PM
11 years old? Was there grass on the field? If so, then its not pedo pedo.
 
2013-12-14 09:32:30 PM
Che cosa dafuq?
 
2013-12-14 09:32:47 PM

Misconduc: JoieD'Zen: ZAZ: I think there is still at least one state in America where statutory rape charges will be dropped if you marry her and stay married until she is legal.  That marriage may require parental consent or court approval, the same as any other marriage to a minor.

Southern states.

Certainly not in florida, we convict 18 years for getting blow jobs from 17 yr olds to 3-5 years prison or probation (usually no jail time just probation and a life on the sex offender list).


That's because Florida should be razed and start again with Nawlins swamp folken.
 
2013-12-14 09:35:40 PM

Kuoxasar: doglover: In America, where the farthest back you can dig is about 200 odd years, we can still come up with some weird legal precedents. And when you go to a city like Rome, they have mere statues ten times the age of America. You can bet your bippy that lawyers, of all people, kept their meticulous records a little bit better than the elements kept the statues. Their legal records must dwarf ours by orders of magnitude. So one can't be surprised when crazy archaic rulings come down the pike.


Do they still have statutes on the books from the Roman Empire?

Italy didn't even really become a nation until 1861.  Italy became a Democratic Republic in 1946.  I'm not saying they just wiped out all previous laws and started over from scratch, but I kind of doubt law from 2000 years ago still is applicable.
 
2013-12-14 09:37:08 PM

gfid: Kuoxasar: doglover: In America, where the farthest back you can dig is about 200 odd years, we can still come up with some weird legal precedents. And when you go to a city like Rome, they have mere statues ten times the age of America. You can bet your bippy that lawyers, of all people, kept their meticulous records a little bit better than the elements kept the statues. Their legal records must dwarf ours by orders of magnitude. So one can't be surprised when crazy archaic rulings come down the pike.

Do they still have statutes on the books from the Roman Empire?

Italy didn't even really become a nation until 1861.  Italy became a Democratic Republic in 1946.  I'm not saying they just wiped out all previous laws and started over from scratch, but I kind of doubt law from 2000 years ago still is applicable.


I heard the library holding all the records burned down a really long farking time ago.
 
2013-12-14 09:38:33 PM
Read the comments section, like a perverts posting board, about the only thing they missed was:  "After all she had the body of a 13 year old."
 
2013-12-14 09:39:51 PM

gfid: I kind of doubt law from 2000 years ago still is applicable.


Gravity?
 
2013-12-14 09:40:54 PM
And it's not even Berlusconi?
 
2013-12-14 09:41:26 PM
Wheeeeeennnn the girl wants to lie with a creepy old guy.

That's amoral. (That's amoral)
 
2013-12-14 09:42:11 PM
Perhaps the bride's age wasn't quite as young as 11, but I've seen in very old newspapers accounts of middle-aged and older men taking barely-out-of-childhood brides in the United States.
 
2013-12-14 09:44:54 PM
You're 11 years old. You THINK you know what you're doing, but trust me, you don't... and you're being really f****** stupid.

That's why he chose you....
 
2013-12-14 09:48:13 PM

bwilson27: gfid: Kuoxasar: doglover: In America, where the farthest back you can dig is about 200 odd years, we can still come up with some weird legal precedents. And when you go to a city like Rome, they have mere statues ten times the age of America. You can bet your bippy that lawyers, of all people, kept their meticulous records a little bit better than the elements kept the statues. Their legal records must dwarf ours by orders of magnitude. So one can't be surprised when crazy archaic rulings come down the pike.

Do they still have statutes on the books from the Roman Empire?

Italy didn't even really become a nation until 1861.  Italy became a Democratic Republic in 1946.  I'm not saying they just wiped out all previous laws and started over from scratch, but I kind of doubt law from 2000 years ago still is applicable.

I heard the library holding all the records burned down a really long farking time ago.


British case law comes up in US courts. It's held to less weight, but the common law countries share a legal history.
 
2013-12-14 09:48:47 PM

BigLuca: What is the equation again?  Your age, divided by 6, plus 2?

Nope, still doesn't work.


60 doesn't go into 11 very much.
 
2013-12-14 09:50:54 PM

Snarfangel: BigLuca: What is the equation again?  Your age, divided by 6, plus 2?

Nope, still doesn't work.

60 doesn't go into 11 very much.


not without some Viagra...


/and a lot of lube
 
2013-12-14 09:51:05 PM
Old enough to pee, good enough for me.
 
2013-12-14 09:54:20 PM
images.thehollywoodgossip.com
OH come ON!!!   Grandpa Was reading her a Story,.
 
2013-12-14 10:03:00 PM

Snarfangel: BigLuca: What is the equation again?  Your age, divided by 6, plus 2?

Nope, still doesn't work.

60 doesn't go into 11 very much.


Clearly you've never been to Utah
 
2013-12-14 10:07:21 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

Nice.
 
2013-12-14 10:07:41 PM
Maybe it was his birthday
 
2013-12-14 10:07:47 PM
I saw Osama. Reaaly good movie,'cept for the pedo at the end. Makes me wanna don a pork chop turban in Cairo.
 
2013-12-14 10:11:18 PM
BMFPitt:

And it's not even Berlusconi?

If anything, Berlusconi was more of a  ephebophile.
 
2013-12-14 10:16:34 PM

doglover: In America, where the farthest back you can dig is about 200 odd years


upload.wikimedia.org

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doglover: gfid: I kind of doubt law from 2000 years ago still is applicable.

Gravity?


i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-14 10:16:36 PM
Finally, the sick tag is used properly.
 
2013-12-14 10:17:13 PM
Cultural diversity in action.

(DNRTFA)
 
2013-12-14 10:21:27 PM
Well, at least she was 11, and not II.
 
2013-12-14 10:22:57 PM
What's Berlusconi done this time?
 
2013-12-14 10:23:30 PM

Rozinante: bwilson27: gfid: Kuoxasar: doglover: In America, where the farthest back you can dig is about 200 odd years, we can still come up with some weird legal precedents. And when you go to a city like Rome, they have mere statues ten times the age of America. You can bet your bippy that lawyers, of all people, kept their meticulous records a little bit better than the elements kept the statues. Their legal records must dwarf ours by orders of magnitude. So one can't be surprised when crazy archaic rulings come down the pike.

Do they still have statutes on the books from the Roman Empire?

Italy didn't even really become a nation until 1861.  Italy became a Democratic Republic in 1946.  I'm not saying they just wiped out all previous laws and started over from scratch, but I kind of doubt law from 2000 years ago still is applicable.

I heard the library holding all the records burned down a really long farking time ago.

British case law comes up in US courts. It's held to less weight, but the common law countries share a legal history.


Except Louisiana, which started with French law based on the Napoleonic code.

Nobody ever chooses to totally reinvent the wheel when it comes to laws.
 
2013-12-14 10:24:38 PM
If there's grass on the field, play ball.
 
2013-12-14 10:27:44 PM
Skirl Hutsenreiter:

Except Louisiana, which started with French law based on the Napoleonic code.


Law school: 'And that's how the law is... except in Louisiana'.
 
2013-12-14 10:35:56 PM
img.fark.net
 
2013-12-14 10:36:17 PM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Perhaps the bride's age wasn't quite as young as 11, but I've seen in very old newspapers accounts of middle-aged and older men taking barely-out-of-childhood brides in the United States.



It certainly happens.  This guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Hutchison) married a 16 year old..  In a surprise to no one, they're now divorced.
 
2013-12-14 10:40:51 PM

The Pope of Manwich Village: Wheeeeeennnn the girl wants to lie with a creepy old guy.

That's amoral. (That's amoral)


Nice.
That would have made a good headline.

I guess that between this and Berlusconi, Italy really doesn't seem to give a shiat
What you do between the sheets.


\no wonder they see the US as prudes
\\cause we are
\\\but 11 is too young
\\\\16 seems about right, off hand
 
2013-12-14 10:44:06 PM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Perhaps the bride's age wasn't quite as young as 11, but I've seen in very old newspapers accounts of middle-aged and older men taking barely-out-of-childhood brides in the United States.


Yeah, but people used to get married a lot younger than they do nowadays.

www.madeyoulaugh.com
 
2013-12-14 10:44:18 PM
A-60-year-old-old-man-caught-in-bed-with-an-11-year-old-girl

I think I know what his FARK log-in is...

In other news, R. Kelly announces plans for an extensive tour of Italy.
 
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