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(The Raw Story)   Religious scholar Reza Aslan tells the world Megyn Kelly was only half right- Jesus is not white, but Christ is. Well, that clears that up   (rawstory.com ) divider line
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2013-12-13 03:07:48 PM  
8 votes:
"As everybody knows, before Roman Orthodoxy, there were a thousand different kinds of Christianity," Aslan said. "It could mean whatever you wanted it to mean.

shiat, that's no different than now.

If you're a blond, blue-eyed, white suburbanite woman, then God is a blond, blue-eyed suburbanite

The fact that there's a word missing from the end of that sentence is the subject of an entirely different book.
2013-12-13 03:49:15 PM  
5 votes:

cretinbob: Christ is a title, not a name


FTA: "What I just described is Jesus. What Megan Kelly described is the Christ - and they're different people," Aslan said. "In other words, the Christ can be whatever you want him to be."

I think he's using it right.
2013-12-13 03:47:40 PM  
5 votes:
Christ is a title, not a name
2013-12-13 03:43:58 PM  
4 votes:
I know that in China, they've combined the Mary and Child (Madonna) motif with the Buddhist bodhisattva Guanyin to create this:

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2013-12-13 03:32:45 PM  
4 votes:
Aslan's left nut is smarter than the entire staff at Fox News combined.
2013-12-13 07:41:14 PM  
3 votes:
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2013-12-13 06:03:58 PM  
3 votes:
His dad was white so there is at least even odds Jesus is white.
2013-12-13 03:13:58 PM  
3 votes:
That is actually a pretty sober and wise take on this whole nontroversy.

And since the point is outrage for outrage's sake, I expect the reaction to it will be further outrage.
2013-12-13 10:54:51 PM  
2 votes:
I think everybody misunderstood.  She wasn't talking about Jesus of Nazareth, she was talking about her true savior, Jeezus.

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2013-12-13 10:30:17 PM  
2 votes:

Hobodeluxe: Jesus as the Reincarnation of Mithra The Vatican was built upon the grounds previously devoted to the worship of Mithra (600 B.C.). The Orthodox Christian hierarchy is nearly identical to the Mithraic version.
Virtually all of the elements of Orthodox Christian rituals, from miter, wafer, water baptism, alter, and doxology, were adopted from the Mithra and earlier pagan mystery religions. The religion of Mithra preceded Christianity by roughly six hundred years. Mithraic worship at one time covered a large portion of the ancient world. It flourished as late as the second century.
The Messianic idea originated in ancient Persia and this is where the Jewish and Christian concepts of a Savior came from. Mithra, as the sun god of ancient Persia, had the following karmic similarities with Jesus:
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Identical Life Experiences
1. Mithra was born on December 25th as an offspring of the Sun. Next to the gods Ormuzd and Ahrimanes, Mithra held the highest rank among the gods of ancient Persia. He was represented as a beautiful youth and a Mediator. Reverend J. W. Lake states: "Mithras is spiritual light contending with spiritual darkness, and through his labors the kingdom of darkness shall be lit with heaven's own light; the Eternal will receive all things back into his favor, the world will be redeemed to God. The impure are to be purified, and the evil made good, through the mediation of Mithras, the reconciler of Ormuzd and Ahriman. Mithras is the Good, his name is Love. In relation to the Eternal he is the source of grace, in relation to man he is the life-giver and mediator" (Plato, Philo, and Paul, p. 15).

2. He was considered a great traveling teacher and masters. He had twelve companions as Jesus had twelve disciples. Mithras also performed miracles.

3. Mithra was called "the good shepherd, "the way, the truth and the light, redeemer, savior, Messiah." He was identified with both the lion and the lamb.

4. The International Encyclopedia states: "Mithras seems to ha ...


Not trying to be a prick. But a lot of that 'Jesus is a copy of other religions' has been going around for a while and a lot of it isn't true. The Egyptian links have been debunked by actual Egyptians. Mithra was never resurrected, and he was made from a rock not born to a virgin. The older versions of Mithra have no similarities to Jesus. Those didn't show up until the first or second century A.D. (after Jesus was born). This post doesn't mean in any way the Christian Bible is correct or represents one true religion. But, if you think something is bullshiat, the answer to disproving it isn't more bullshiat.
2013-12-13 09:10:13 PM  
2 votes:
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2013-12-13 08:01:38 PM  
2 votes:
As usual, the real irony here is what Kelly said just before she made the big statements everyone's jumping on her for:

"You can't just change what you're not comfortable with."

This, from a mouthpiece for a network for a movement that's trying to erase Thomas Jefferson's real accomplishments from history because they either weren't made in the name of Almighty God...or worse, against the name of Almighty God.
2013-12-13 08:00:50 PM  
2 votes:
I honestly believe that Megyn Kelly is definitely a Conservative, but she doesn't always believe the bullshiat she has to peddle, and this is one of those instances where she overreached trying to pay the lip service she is required to.

If anything, it seems to me she is aware the average FOX News viewer believes some cartoonish bullshiat.  The whole thing is so bizarre. It's like she felt required to jump into a mud puddle.
2013-12-13 07:14:21 PM  
2 votes:
Jesus as the Reincarnation of Mithra The Vatican was built upon the grounds previously devoted to the worship of Mithra (600 B.C.). The Orthodox Christian hierarchy is nearly identical to the Mithraic version.
Virtually all of the elements of Orthodox Christian rituals, from miter, wafer, water baptism, alter, and doxology, were adopted from the Mithra and earlier pagan mystery religions. The religion of Mithra preceded Christianity by roughly six hundred years. Mithraic worship at one time covered a large portion of the ancient world. It flourished as late as the second century.
The Messianic idea originated in ancient Persia and this is where the Jewish and Christian concepts of a Savior came from. Mithra, as the sun god of ancient Persia, had the following karmic similarities with Jesus:
.
Identical Life Experiences
1. Mithra was born on December 25th as an offspring of the Sun. Next to the gods Ormuzd and Ahrimanes, Mithra held the highest rank among the gods of ancient Persia. He was represented as a beautiful youth and a Mediator. Reverend J. W. Lake states: "Mithras is spiritual light contending with spiritual darkness, and through his labors the kingdom of darkness shall be lit with heaven's own light; the Eternal will receive all things back into his favor, the world will be redeemed to God. The impure are to be purified, and the evil made good, through the mediation of Mithras, the reconciler of Ormuzd and Ahriman. Mithras is the Good, his name is Love. In relation to the Eternal he is the source of grace, in relation to man he is the life-giver and mediator" (Plato, Philo, and Paul, p. 15).

2. He was considered a great traveling teacher and masters. He had twelve companions as Jesus had twelve disciples. Mithras also performed miracles.

3. Mithra was called "the good shepherd, "the way, the truth and the light, redeemer, savior, Messiah." He was identified with both the lion and the lamb.

4. The International Encyclopedia states: "Mithras seems to have owed his prominence to the belief that he was the source of life, and could also redeem the souls of the dead into the better world ... The ceremonies included a sort of baptism to remove sins, anointing, and a sacred meal of bread and water, while a consecrated wine, believed to possess wonderful power, played a prominent part."

5. Chambers Encyclopedia says: "The most important of his many festivals was his birthday, celebrated on the 25th of December, the day subsequently fixed -- against all evidence -- as the birthday of Christ. The worship of Mithras early found its way into Rome, and the mysteries of Mithras, which fell in the spring equinox, were famous even among the many Roman festivals. The ceremonies observed in the initiation to these mysteries -- symbolical of the struggle between Ahriman and Ormuzd (the Good and the Evil) -- were of the most extraordinary and to a certain degree even dangerous character. Baptism and the partaking of a mystical liquid, consisting of flour and water, to be drunk with the utterance of sacred formulas, were among the inauguration acts."

6. Prof. Franz Cumont, of the University of Ghent, writes as follows concerning the religion of Mithra and the religion of Christ: "The sectaries of the Persian god, like the Christians', purified themselves by baptism, received by a species of confirmation the power necessary to combat the spirit of evil; and expected from a Lord's supper salvation of body and soul. Like the latter, they also held Sunday sacred, and celebrated the birth of the Sun on the 25th of December.... They both preached a categorical system of ethics, regarded asceticism as meritorious and counted among their principal virtues abstinence and continence, renunciation and self-control. Their conceptions of the world and of the destiny of man were similar. They both admitted the existence of a Heaven inhabited by beatified ones, situated in the upper regions, and of a Hell, peopled by demons, situated in the bowels of the Earth. They both placed a flood at the beginning of history; they both assigned as the source of their condition, a primitive revelation; they both, finally, believed in the immortality of the soul, in a last judgment, and in a resurrection of the dead, consequent upon a final conflagration of the universe" (The Mysteries of Mithras, pp. 190, 191).

7. Reverend Charles Biggs stated: "The disciples of Mithra formed an organized church, with a developed hierarchy. They possessed the ideas of Mediation, Atonement, and a Savior, who is human and yet divine, and not only the idea, but a doctrine of the future life. They had a Eucharist, and a Baptism, and other curious analogies might be pointed out between their system and the church of Christ (The Christian Platonists, p. 240).

8. In the catacombs at Rome was preserved a relic of the old Mithraic worship. It was a picture of the infant Mithra seated in the lap of his virgin mother, while on their knees before him were Persian Magi adoring him and offering gifts.

9. He was buried in a tomb and after three days he rose again. His resurrection was celebrated every year.

10. McClintock and Strong wrote: "In modern times Christian writers have been induced to look favorably upon the assertion that some of our ecclesiastical usages (e.g., the institution of the Christmas festival) originated in the cultus of Mithraism. Some writers who refuse to accept the Christian religion as of supernatural origin, have even gone so far as to institute a close comparison with the founder of Christianity; and Dupuis and others, going even beyond this, have not hesitated to pronounce the Gospel simply a branch of Mithraism" (Art. "Mithra").

11. Mithra had his principal festival on what was later to become Easter, at which time he was resurrected. His sacred day was Sunday, "the Lord's Day." The Mithra religion had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper."

12. The Christian Father Manes, founder of the heretical sect known as Manicheans, believed that Christ and Mithra were one. His teaching, according to Mosheim, was as follows: "Christ is that glorious intelligence which the Persians called Mithras ... His residence is in the sun" (Ecclesiastical History, 3rd century, Part 2, ch. 5).

"I am a star which goes with thee and shines out of the depths." - Mithraic saying

"I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright morning star." - Jesus, (Revelation 22:16)
2013-12-13 07:01:33 PM  
2 votes:
Th paragraph near the end where he says Kelly is right because Jesus is perceived the way the believer "perceives humanity" is gold. He is saying, right there, that Kelly is racist. She perceives humanity as white. Bu that is where I disagree with him. I think he has mistaken the incarnation of "humanity" with the incarnation of "mercy" for one's own, local problems.

But the racism he pins her with in that paragraph is precious.
2013-12-13 06:40:15 PM  
2 votes:
I think somebody would've noted it at the time if two swarthy Palestinian parents gave birth to a blond, blue-eyed white kid.

That would've literally been rarer than another messiah being born.
2013-12-13 05:25:03 PM  
2 votes:
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2013-12-13 04:00:19 PM  
2 votes:
That's actually a really smart way of looking at it.
2013-12-14 03:13:43 PM  
1 vote:

impaler: PC LOAD LETTER: See my comment about Hercules above. I don't care if people worship people as gods or not, and that has zero bearing on if they actually existed as normal humans. Saints are demigods who perform magic, miracles, and witchcraft on behalf of the gods for all intents and purposes. We don't doubt that St. Patrick existed.

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There's a reason I don't use Socrates for my examples, and that's it. Again, Hercules was treated as real by Herodotus. And that goes to the fact that Herodotus is the only source of information--written long after the people he wrote about lived, mind you--that we have on many people he mentions. That's a big reason Diogenes Laertius isn't considered a reliable source, but we don't deny that people exist simply because Herodotus thought Hercules was real. Or do we start considering the possibility that Hercules was actually real, which has been floated before and I have no problem considering. King Arthur was one or several of a bunch of late-Roman-empire warlords in Brittania from what many have postulated. Ancient sources are horrible evidence for many of the reasons that that link says, yet, again, we do not apply the same standard to Saints or other demigods evenly. Why?

I get that some of my fellow Atheists want Jesus to simply NOT EXIST. It's a special kind of burial of religion that I appreciate. But I have a very specific view on religious events: they were mundane and boring and people were easily fooled by natural phenomena, were on drugs or drunk, or thought mental illness was dialogue with the Gods--see Abraham hearing voices to kill his son and the descriptions of Mohammed listening to "god", namely the voices in his head, as the descriptions of him were that he was listening to silence. I would much rather say "yeah, Jesus probably existed, but let's not get crazy here".
2013-12-14 04:27:06 AM  
1 vote:
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Seasonal frivolities, etc. etc.
2013-12-14 01:47:45 AM  
1 vote:
Jesus may have well looked like he could've been Yasser Arafat's cousin. Now, imagine saying that on a Fox News show.
2013-12-13 11:39:06 PM  
1 vote:
I RTFA. I love how conservatives, always fall to "I'm the real victim here" mentality.  No Megyn, you just said something stupid and people are calling you on it.  You acting defensive just shows that you had another agenda other than "doing it for the kids".

I think Jon Stewart summed it up best when he said "Who is she speaking to?  A child sophisticated enough to be watching a news program at 10pm, yet still believes that Santa Claus is real, and is racist enough to be freaked out at the thought that he might not be white."
2013-12-13 11:11:42 PM  
1 vote:

ZeroCorpse: 1. There is no "historical" Jesus. There's no evidence of Jesus' existence outside of the Bible that isn't apocryphal.

2. There IS a historical Saint Nicholas, and he was Caucasian (Greek, actually). This means there's more historical evidence of the existence of Santa Claus than there is for Jesus.

3. Megyn Kelly is a vapid asshole who has only gotten this far because she had standard blonde-girl good looks.

4. Numbered lists make Bill O'Reilly twitchy.


Preface: I am an atheist

However, Jesus, the human being, more than likely existed according to biblical scholars and historians. The details of his life, as described in the bible, are likely way off, but the man existed. Prophets were a dime a dozen back then, so it isn't shocking there wasn't more written about him.

See more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Existence

Basically, non-Christian Roman historians from the first century mention him (Josephus and Tacitus).
2013-12-13 10:54:41 PM  
1 vote:
1. There is no "historical" Jesus. There's no evidence of Jesus' existence outside of the Bible that isn't apocryphal.

2. There IS a historical Saint Nicholas, and he was Caucasian (Greek, actually). This means there's more historical evidence of the existence of Santa Claus than there is for Jesus.

3. Megyn Kelly is a vapid asshole who has only gotten this far because she had standard blonde-girl good looks.

4. Numbered lists make Bill O'Reilly twitchy.
2013-12-13 10:34:03 PM  
1 vote:
Also, the whole 'Jesus being White' shiat is bullshiat.  Jesus was Middle Eastern.  I'm sure if 95% of so called 'devout Christ followers' were on a plane and Jesus boarded and sat next to them they would be rapidly pushing the 'stewardess assistance' button screaming 'Terrorist'.
2013-12-13 09:54:51 PM  
1 vote:

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Fat, white Santa with the hat was invented by Coca Cola in the thirties.


Nope
2013-12-13 09:40:26 PM  
1 vote:

catmandu: There is no such thing as a white race. There is Negroid (sub-Saharan Africa); Mongoloid (east Asia, Russia west of the Urals, indigenous people of North and South America); Australoid (Australia and parts of Melanesia), and Caucasoid (North Africa, Middle East, Europe, Indian subcontinent, western Russia).

Jesus was Caucasian but he definitely wasn't white.


Good stuff.
2013-12-13 09:38:38 PM  
1 vote:
There is no such thing as a white race. There is Negroid (sub-Saharan Africa); Mongoloid (east Asia, Russia west of the Urals, indigenous people of North and South America); Australoid (Australia and parts of Melanesia), and Caucasoid (North Africa, Middle East, Europe, Indian subcontinent, western Russia).

Jesus was Caucasian but he definitely wasn't white.
2013-12-13 09:34:51 PM  
1 vote:
Jesus is just alright, with me.

Christ can kiss my ass.
2013-12-13 09:27:05 PM  
1 vote:
The only reason Christ was put upon the cross was because big government took away his concealed sword permit.
2013-12-13 09:10:55 PM  
1 vote:

Hobodeluxe: Mithra was born on December 25th


Why would the Persians be using a Roman calendar several hundred years before any of them would even know Rome exists?

Don't post bullshiat from Zeitgeist.
2013-12-13 09:00:23 PM  
1 vote:
I have an autographed picture of Jesus that proves he was white.
And if he wasn't, then why is the Bible written in American?
You can't explain that.
2013-12-13 08:46:46 PM  
1 vote:
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Brother from another mother.
2013-12-13 08:43:36 PM  
1 vote:
Also, how the hell did we get this far without somebody posting this?

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I dunno, if you saw that guy on the street would you call him "white"? Probably. But Anglo-Saxon Jesus he ain't.
2013-12-13 08:38:40 PM  
1 vote:
I for one am looking forward to FoxNews' regurgitation of this story at least 3 more times by 2020.
2013-12-13 08:27:50 PM  
1 vote:

worlddan: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: It's just a semantic difference. Aslan means Jesus "the guy" versus Christ "the magical parts."

It is not semantics because in Jesus Christ "the word was made flesh and dwelt among us." In Jesus "the guy" and Christ "the magical bits" are one and the same thing. That is the definition of incarnation. Jesus is God incarnate. It can sometimes be useful for the purposes of theological clarity to talk about those two aspects as if they were different things but one of the dangers of doing that is to fall into the trap of treating such differences as mere word play.

The Jews of 0 AD had a clear and specific definition of what those "magical bits" were and not any old magical bits were going to do. Not any person could be the Christ no more than the Christ could be any person. There was only one Christ: Jesus. No one is forced to believe that but anyone who doesn't is not Christian in any traditional understanding of that word.


I see you are both ignorant of what Messiah, i.e the word the Greeks meant by Christos, actually means in Judaism, and ignorant of the varied and different takes on the nature of Christ espoused by Christians both throughout the world and throughout time.
2013-12-13 08:17:58 PM  
1 vote:
I've always believed that Christianity has more to do with Paul and his work in Rome than it ever had to do with Jesus.
2013-12-13 08:03:39 PM  
1 vote:

Zerochance: I honestly believe that Megyn Kelly is definitely a Conservative, but she doesn't always believe the bullshiat she has to peddle, and this is one of those instances where she overreached trying to pay the lip service she is required to.

If anything, it seems to me she is aware the average FOX News viewer believes some cartoonish bullshiat.  The whole thing is so bizarre. It's like she felt required to jump into a mud puddle.


Yep, that's about my take on it.
2013-12-13 07:26:29 PM  
1 vote:
Jesus probably existed. We have less evidence for other historical figures existing. It's not a stretch that a doomsday carpenter rabbi was preaching interesting ideas in the 1st Century CE and pissed off both the local religious authorities and the Roman actual authorities. It's also not inconceivable that Saul decided to take over the movement because of ambition and completely changed the character, message, and tone of the movement to appeal to non-Jews.

Walking on water, healing the dead, etc, all made-up crap from other religions and movements.
2013-12-13 07:18:54 PM  
1 vote:

Bennie Crabtree: Th paragraph near the end where he says Kelly is right because Jesus is perceived the way the believer "perceives humanity" is gold. He is saying, right there, that Kelly is racist. She perceives humanity as white. Bu that is where I disagree with him. I think he has mistaken the incarnation of "humanity" with the incarnation of "mercy" for one's own, local problems.

But the racism he pins her with in that paragraph is precious.


No- he doesn't peg her as racist. Just as a white woman. Christ is as the perceiver.

I am no religious expert but even my southern baptist upbringing and a few freshmen level "religions of man" classes taught me that Jesus looked a lot more like Yasar Arafat than Dolph Lundgren.

What if Jesus were a ginger? An anth class I took way back when stated red hair was common in the mid east centuries ago. Still found in Afghanistan and parts of Asia/caucuses.
2013-12-13 07:15:14 PM  
1 vote:
Believable.  Distinct possibility that he may have had dark red (auburn?) hair as well.  Persians had a fair amount of red hair back in the day and are totally obsessed with it nowadays.  Blue eyes? Doubt it.
We keep saying typical Jew-type ignoring the fact that the Jews believe that Christ has yet to walk the face of the earth.  Saw some place that Christ (Isa) may have fallen in lineage as being one of the last prophets of Muslim faith.  Word is he was a minor player but seemed to have gained a small following for believing in peaceful settlement and criticism of the fatwa.
2013-12-13 07:05:32 PM  
1 vote:

EvilEgg: His dad was white so there is at least even odds Jesus is white.


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2013-12-13 06:58:04 PM  
1 vote:

DirkValentine: It's not enough to just go to Republican Church on Sundays, if you don't truly believe the Republican Religion in your heart of hearts, the derp won't flow through you, it will destroy you.

I don't know, man.  I honestly don't pay any attention to Fox outside of links about it but what I have seen tells me there are some serious sociopathic grifters that are there specifically b/c they have critical thinking skills and the ability to disown their soul and use them for the forces of evil.


You make a good point. You don't have to be a true believer, as long as you're a sociopath or don't have a soul.

These people make up the priestly class of the Republican Religion.
2013-12-13 06:56:29 PM  
1 vote:

impaler: DirkValentine: She's supposed to clarify her statements on her show tonight.

yes, that's right.  I can't WAIT to hear this.

I'm sure there's going to be a lot of crying about how liberals are being mean, using their facts and historical data to bully her.


She'll use Aslan's explanation.
2013-12-13 06:48:08 PM  
1 vote:
Well, Lemmy is white, so therefore God is white. And British. And FARKING METAL!
2013-12-13 06:43:46 PM  
1 vote:

cameroncrazy1984: DirkValentine: The big question here isn't what color this Christ fellow is :

Its why in the fark did Megyn say that?!?!?

I mean, wtf?

She knows her audience wants to hear that Jesus is a white dude?


Yeah, that's the easy answer but she's proven herself to not be stupid.  Sure, she works at fox at promotes their bullshiat, but that was a really, really weird statement.    Like, outside the bounds of what i would expect from her.   O'Reilly style.
2013-12-13 06:40:18 PM  
1 vote:
I would like to see Megyn interview Pope Frank and ask his thoughts on the subject. I imagine she would leave with the imprint of his oxfords on her butt
2013-12-13 06:40:14 PM  
1 vote:

syrynxx: I'd like to hear Ted Nugent's thoughts on this subject.


Jesus was a white, draft dodging pants shiatter.
2013-12-13 06:40:09 PM  
1 vote:

cretinbob: Also in reference to your post, there is the theory that Jesus went east and turned to Buddhism before going home and spreading it.


And Yoga and Kung Fu. Can't forget those.

I love that book so much, I think it's about time for another re-read.
2013-12-13 06:38:00 PM  
1 vote:

DirkValentine: The big question here isn't what color this Christ fellow is :

Its why in the fark did Megyn say that?!?!?

I mean, wtf?


She's supposed to clarify her statements on her show tonight.
2013-12-13 06:33:18 PM  
1 vote:

DirkValentine: The big question here isn't what color this Christ fellow is :

Its why in the fark did Megyn say that?!?!?

I mean, wtf?


She knows her audience wants to hear that Jesus is a white dude?
2013-12-13 06:30:26 PM  
1 vote:
The big question here isn't what color this Christ fellow is :

Its why in the fark did Megyn say that?!?!?

I mean, wtf?
2013-12-13 05:29:25 PM  
1 vote:
I'd like to hear Ted Nugent's thoughts on this subject.
2013-12-13 05:08:08 PM  
1 vote:

gilgigamesh: That is actually a pretty sober and wise take on this whole nontroversy.

And since the point is outrage for outrage's sake, I expect the reaction to it will be further outrage.


Reza Aslan has done some good work tracing the roots of Fundamentalist movements--Christian, Jewish and Islamic. His How to Win a Cosmic War is a brilliant piece.
2013-12-13 03:35:07 PM  
1 vote:
Well he lived in the middle east, so my guess is he was probably, oh I don't know, middle eastern?
2013-12-13 03:28:00 PM  
1 vote:
He can't be a religious scholar because he's an imaginary lion from Narnia!
2013-12-13 03:11:03 PM  
1 vote:
Fox News sucks. There, I said it.
2013-12-13 03:03:27 PM  
1 vote:
Bill O'Reilly = expert on Western religions
Reza Aslan != expert on Western religions

Study it out.
2013-12-13 02:56:03 PM  
1 vote:
This is the only thread submission today on this story that has at least put forth an accurate take.

/not subby
 
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