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2013-12-13 02:15:35 PM
Put another way: "Though fires are dangerous and best handled by pros plus leaving my post is against company policy, I'm gonna ignore all that and do what I want; and when it works out against me, I'll run to the press."
 
2013-12-13 02:17:15 PM
Pizza Hut all over again... their FB page is starting to heat up.
 
2013-12-13 02:21:05 PM

rkiller1: Put another way: "Though fires are dangerous and best handled by pros plus leaving my post is against company policy, I'm gonna ignore all that and do what I want; and when it works out against me, I'll run to the press."


you'll get some bites.
 
2013-12-13 02:22:30 PM
And if he had somehow made the situation worse, or caused injury to someone in trying to respond to the situation, his employer would have most likely been vicariously liable. The policy is perfectly reasonable.
 
2013-12-13 02:22:45 PM
that's gay
 
msP [TotalFark]
2013-12-13 02:22:45 PM
Someone should start a company and hire all the people who have been fired in situations like this. Not me, though, because I don't have the money to pay for insurance in case something horrible happens to them while they're being heroic.
 
2013-12-13 02:23:03 PM
Well, doesn't everyone want to be a firefighter when they grow up?

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I SAY WE LET 'EM GO!
 
2013-12-13 02:24:05 PM
If you don't putt out, you're disqualified in stroke play and lose the hole in match play
 
2013-12-13 02:25:36 PM

olapbill: rkiller1: Put another way: "Though fires are dangerous and best handled by pros plus leaving my post is against company policy, I'm gonna ignore all that and do what I want; and when it works out against me, I'll run to the press."

you'll get some bites.


You'll get more bites.
 
2013-12-13 02:25:51 PM
"The safety of our customers and team members is a top priority at Meijer. We have a very specific protocol in place for our team members to follow when emergencies occur and we can't allow any deviation from the policy that could put our customers or team members  liability insurance at risk," Meijer responded.
 
2013-12-13 02:26:25 PM
If he had failed, damaged something, hurt someone, or hurt himself, it would have left the company liable. That's why it's company policy. It's sad that it has to be this way. That's why a lot of companies have the "fark the extinguishers, just get out of the building" safety policy.
 
2013-12-13 02:26:53 PM

kronicfeld: And if he had somehow made the situation worse, or caused injury to someone in trying to respond to the situation, his employer would have most likely been vicariously liable. The policy is perfectly reasonable.


He wasn't injured though and firing a local hero is bad press. They need to know when to make an exception. Zero tolerance policies seldom work out.
 
2013-12-13 02:27:42 PM
What's a Meijer?
Is it a big deal?
Should I make it the focus of my study?
Are these puns phonetically in the correct tones or is it a minor mistake on my part that sharply fall flat?
 
2013-12-13 02:27:42 PM
FTA: Bowers did admit that he was suspended several years ago for leaving his post when he chased after a shoplifter...

Well that's his problem right there. He didn't understand that his job has nothing to do with doing what is right. It's only to greet people and reduce the store's liability.

Anything else is pinko commie talk.
 
2013-12-13 02:28:22 PM
Is it common for people to be sued who helped others put out a fire? by the comments in here it apparently happens everyday and justifies this guy being shiat canned.
 
2013-12-13 02:28:25 PM
"He says he got in trouble because he left his post as a greeter to help a customer put out a fire in the parking lot." . . . left his "post"?  Is he guarding the border at Guantanamo? I would have given him an award.
 
2013-12-13 02:28:43 PM

cgraves67: If he had failed, damaged something, hurt someone, or hurt himself, it would have left the company liable. That's why it's company policy. It's sad that it has to be this way. That's why a lot of companies have the "fark the extinguishers, just get out of the building" safety policy.


Then why even have fire extinguishers?  Seriously.
 
2013-12-13 02:28:54 PM

genner: kronicfeld: And if he had somehow made the situation worse, or caused injury to someone in trying to respond to the situation, his employer would have most likely been vicariously liable. The policy is perfectly reasonable.

He wasn't injured though and firing a local hero is bad press. They need to know when to make an exception. Zero tolerance policies seldom work out.


This. Zero tolerance is one of the dumbest concepts ever.
 
2013-12-13 02:30:08 PM
"The safety of our customers and team members is a top priority at Meijer. We have a very specific protocol in place for our team members to follow when emergencies occur and we can't allow any deviation from the policy that could put our customers or team members at risk," Meijer responded

Doesn't THAT sound like a fun place to work.
 
2013-12-13 02:30:41 PM

KeeptheChief: cgraves67: If he had failed, damaged something, hurt someone, or hurt himself, it would have left the company liable. That's why it's company policy. It's sad that it has to be this way. That's why a lot of companies have the "fark the extinguishers, just get out of the building" safety policy.

Then why even have fire extinguishers?  Seriously.


Probably because federal laws require them. But apparently "company policy" can override them being used in the very emergency they are put in place for. So, whatever...
 
2013-12-13 02:30:52 PM

cgraves67: If he had failed, damaged something, hurt someone, or hurt himself, it would have left the company liable. That's why it's company policy. It's sad that it has to be this way. That's why a lot of companies have the "fark the extinguishers, just get out of the building" safety policy.



I'm part of the "safety council" at my job.  We are legally required by OSHA to have over a dozen fire extinguishers.  Only 3 people are to use them.  I'm not kidding.  If you were not trained specifically how to use the fire extinguishers you are supposed to ignore them and evacuate.  And you can't do CPR unless you are vaccinated against Hepatitis.
 
2013-12-13 02:31:00 PM

genner: He wasn't injured though


The result is irrelevant. The policy is there so that the employee doesn't expose the employer - or himself, for that matter - to the risk in the first place. Forgiving violation when there is a good result reduces the deterrent effect in the future.
 
2013-12-13 02:31:24 PM

Mad Scientist: "The safety of our customers and team members is a top priority at Meijer. We have a very specific protocol in place for our team members to follow when emergencies occur and we can't allow any deviation from the policy that could put our customers or team members  liability insurance at risk," Meijer responded.


If the customers get injured outside of our premises, it's not our problem!
 
2013-12-13 02:32:05 PM

ThatBillmanGuy: genner: kronicfeld: And if he had somehow made the situation worse, or caused injury to someone in trying to respond to the situation, his employer would have most likely been vicariously liable. The policy is perfectly reasonable.

He wasn't injured though and firing a local hero is bad press. They need to know when to make an exception. Zero tolerance policies seldom work out.

This. Zero tolerance is one of the dumbest concepts ever.


Yes.  Also, taking a fire extinguisher to a dashboard fire is hardly running into a burning building.  No one was in any danger, and if he'd told the customer to fark off, the store would've been massacred by the press.
 
2013-12-13 02:32:05 PM

Hermione_Granger: FTA: Bowers did admit that he was suspended several years ago for leaving his post when he chased after a shoplifter...

Well that's his problem right there. He didn't understand that his job has nothing to do with doing what is right. It's only to greet people and reduce the store's liability.

Anything else is pinko commie talk.


You do realize that the reason they don't chase shoplifters is because they get the full value of that item from the insurance company covering them, and there have been too many walmart/target/kmart/etc greaters and employees who have been shot in the face doing so, right?
 
2013-12-13 02:32:11 PM
This is why companies suck. They think their rules and procedures can account for every possible scenario that could ever possibly happen. Then they have a 3000 page employee manual for handy reference during an emergency. The first rule in every employee manual should be "Use your farking brain. Failing that, use the manual".

If the fire got out of control, then it would have jumped to the next car, or at least damaged it. This guy used his brain and Meijer show everyone what they think about having employees with brains.
 
2013-12-13 02:32:33 PM

Marcus Aurelius: "The safety of our customers and team members is a top priority at Meijer. We have a very specific protocol in place for our team members to follow when emergencies occur and we can't allow any deviation from the policy that could put our customers or team members at risk," Meijer responded

Doesn't THAT sound like a fun place to work.



It's like you're under a military regime.


/seriously am I pronouncing this right for my puns?
 
2013-12-13 02:33:04 PM
dammit, Meijer.  I shop there instead of wal-mart and now you do this.  grr, gonna have to find a new place that I shop at only a couple times a year.

/this call for a sternly worded letter
 
2013-12-13 02:33:12 PM

KeeptheChief: cgraves67: If he had failed, damaged something, hurt someone, or hurt himself, it would have left the company liable. That's why it's company policy. It's sad that it has to be this way. That's why a lot of companies have the "fark the extinguishers, just get out of the building" safety policy.

Then why even have fire extinguishers?  Seriously.


Because laws
 
2013-12-13 02:33:12 PM

mike_d85: What's a Meijer?
Is it a big deal?
Should I make it the focus of my study?
Are these puns phonetically in the correct tones or is it a minor mistake on my part that sharply fall flat?


No it's pronounced like M-eye-r, as in the long 'i' vowel sound instead of the long 'a' sound. Sooo, you are making a minor mistake in your attempts at punniness.
 
2013-12-13 02:33:35 PM

RobotSpider: If the fire got out of control, then it would have jumped to the next car, or at least damaged it.


Car insurance to the rescue. Or, you know, the fire department.
 
2013-12-13 02:34:11 PM

Hermione_Granger: FTA: Bowers did admit that he was suspended several years ago for leaving his post when he chased after a shoplifter...

Well that's his problem right there. He didn't understand that his job has nothing to do with doing what is right. It's only to greet people and reduce the store's liability.

Anything else is pinko commie talk.


I guarentee the policy was never once told to him. Those rules are always described after the fact.
 
2013-12-13 02:34:28 PM

genner: kronicfeld: And if he had somehow made the situation worse, or caused injury to someone in trying to respond to the situation, his employer would have most likely been vicariously liable. The policy is perfectly reasonable.

He wasn't injured though and firing a local hero is bad press. They need to know when to make an exception. Zero tolerance policies seldom work out.


That's why I have a zero tolerance policy for zero tolerance policies.
 
2013-12-13 02:34:28 PM

mike_d85: And you can't do CPR unless you are vaccinated against Hepatitis.


What about the HIV?  And the gay?
 
2013-12-13 02:34:34 PM

cgraves67: KeeptheChief: cgraves67: If he had failed, damaged something, hurt someone, or hurt himself, it would have left the company liable. That's why it's company policy. It's sad that it has to be this way. That's why a lot of companies have the "fark the extinguishers, just get out of the building" safety policy.

Then why even have fire extinguishers?  Seriously.

Because laws



...a-n-d why is it a law?
 
2013-12-13 02:37:22 PM
fraid of a lawsuuuute
big skeery lawsooooooot
only care bout lawsewwwwt
loosin sleep over lawsuuuuit

thank you litigants shoppers!
 
2013-12-13 02:39:03 PM

mike_d85: And you can't do CPR unless you are vaccinated against Hepatitis.


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2013-12-13 02:39:07 PM

insano: mike_d85: What's a Meijer?
Is it a big deal?
Should I make it the focus of my study?
Are these puns phonetically in the correct tones or is it a minor mistake on my part that sharply fall flat?

No it's pronounced like M-eye-r, as in the long 'i' vowel sound instead of the long 'a' sound. Sooo, you are making a minor mistake in your attempts at punniness.


Then why did you set me up for a "Captian" joke?!?!
 
2013-12-13 02:39:11 PM

Savian: mike_d85: And you can't do CPR unless you are vaccinated against Hepatitis.

What about the HIV?  And the gay?


Saliva transmission isn't an issue with HIV.
 
2013-12-13 02:39:46 PM
As my attorney friends says,doing the right thing is not necessarily going to be the thing that gets you justice.

Some people will stare at an accident and take pictures. Others will help out.  Corporations may be people but I doubt we''ll ever meet an heroic one.
 
2013-12-13 02:39:54 PM

hardinparamedic: mike_d85: And you can't do CPR unless you are vaccinated against Hepatitis.

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Seriously.  I had to get a blood test.  I am immune to whichever Hepatitis they can give you a vaccine for.
 
2013-12-13 02:40:11 PM
It is sad when company policy trumps instinct to do something nice or the right thing at times. Would he have gotten fired if he just gave the person the extinguisher?
 
2013-12-13 02:40:25 PM
Somewhere in time we started selecting for stupidity in humans. Now it all seems to be paying off this decade.
 
2013-12-13 02:40:34 PM
If your car catches fire let it burn. If you extinguish the fire before your car is a total loss it will never be the same.
Open the hood windows and trunk for good measure
 
2013-12-13 02:41:05 PM

KeeptheChief: cgraves67: KeeptheChief: cgraves67: If he had failed, damaged something, hurt someone, or hurt himself, it would have left the company liable. That's why it's company policy. It's sad that it has to be this way. That's why a lot of companies have the "fark the extinguishers, just get out of the building" safety policy.

Then why even have fire extinguishers?  Seriously.

Because laws

...a-n-d why is it a law?


I was working with a company last week that was screaming for a software change because the system didn't conform to their SOP.  It was a major change costing lots of time and money, which they didn't want to pay for.  We had to go to the president of the company to get the SOP changed.  No one else in the organization would even consider changing their SOP to conform to the software, instead of vice versa.

I often wonder how some companies manage to stay in business.
 
2013-12-13 02:41:42 PM

darwinpolice: ThatBillmanGuy: genner: kronicfeld: And if he had somehow made the situation worse, or caused injury to someone in trying to respond to the situation, his employer would have most likely been vicariously liable. The policy is perfectly reasonable.

He wasn't injured though and firing a local hero is bad press. They need to know when to make an exception. Zero tolerance policies seldom work out.

This. Zero tolerance is one of the dumbest concepts ever.

Yes.  Also, taking a fire extinguisher to a dashboard fire is hardly running into a burning building.  No one was in any danger, and if he'd told the customer to fark off, the store would've been massacred by the press.


So you think the employee quick ran out to the car in the parking lot, assessed the situation and decided it was not a big danger, so he ran back inside, got a fire extinguisher, ran back out and sprayed?  While I think that's a weird way to imagine it went down, I do wonder why you think some random dude
who isn't a fire fighter knows how to tell which fires are dangerous and which are not.

Sure this store is getting massacred by the press today.  Yet today and tomorrow, their sales won't be any lower.  If however, this employee got hurt, this store would be footing the bill.  If this store did not fire this employee, then in the future employees could argue "sure Meijer had this policy but it was well known they don't enforce their policies, see for instance this one guy who grabbed a fire extinguisher."

Meijer doesn't want to pay the major medical bills that might result by allowing their employees to fight car fires in their parking lot.  That's what 9-1-1 is for.  The other possible headlines for this are: "Meijer refuses to pay medical bills of hero store worker who fought a fire," or "family sues Meijer for a fortune for wrongful death after allowing their husband/father to die fighting a fire in the parking lot" or "family with what started as just a mere car fire sues Meijer because he was on the clock representing Meijer when he did something really stupid making it a ton worse."
 
2013-12-13 02:42:54 PM

mike_d85: hardinparamedic: mike_d85: And you can't do CPR unless you are vaccinated against Hepatitis.

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Seriously.  I had to get a blood test.  I am immune to whichever Hepatitis they can give you a vaccine for.


Oh yeah. If there is a chance you can come in contact with blood or bodily fluid in the course of your job, you are required by federal law to be offered the HepB vaccine free of cost.

IIRC, there has never been an actual, documented case of a HepB, HepC, or HIV infection from performing CPR, however. This was one of the big myths the AHA worked to dispel to encourage bystanders to do, at the very least, hands-only CPR on adults.
 
2013-12-13 02:42:58 PM

Marcus Aurelius: "The safety of our customers and team members is a top priority at Meijer. We have a very specific protocol in place for our team members to follow when emergencies occur and we can't allow any deviation from the policy that could put our customers or team members at risk," Meijer responded

Doesn't THAT sound like a fun place to work.


Because lawyers and lawsuits.  The fear of litigation has caused many people and businesses to change their behavior regarding helping fellow humans in times of need.
 
2013-12-13 02:43:13 PM

KeeptheChief: cgraves67: If he had failed, damaged something, hurt someone, or hurt himself, it would have left the company liable. That's why it's company policy. It's sad that it has to be this way. That's why a lot of companies have the "fark the extinguishers, just get out of the building" safety policy.

Then why even have fire extinguishers?  Seriously.


Protection for company property.  If it had been the self-checkout that caught on fire instead of a car and this guy put the fire out, you can bet it wouldn't have been an issue.
 
GBB
2013-12-13 02:43:34 PM
The difference between a bad employee and a good employee is the ability to know and follow established policy and protocol.
The difference between a good employee and a great employee is knowing when to ignore established policy and protocol and get the job done.
The difference between a great employee and a fired employee is getting caught.
 
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