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2013-12-13 03:29:41 PM  

deadsanta: Babbs: Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.

This, this and THIS

The same thing with the Pink Panther movies. You just cannot replace Peter Sellers.

Or Herbert Lom.


Or Dick York.
 
2013-12-13 03:31:25 PM  

facisto: I think Andre Braughner could pull off Frank Drebin.


That's the only possibility that I would pay to see.

/We would have been here sooner, but your husband wasn't dead yet.
 
2013-12-13 03:34:05 PM  

Mugato: exparrot: Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.

Yeah, the ideal role for him was the straight man in "Airplane!".  He was also funny in a more comedic role in The Naked Gun in a different capacity but then people who didn't know what they were doing just made him a clown in all the later films.

So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.


Hmmm. interesting idea, but who would you pick?

Ian McShane could probably pull it off.

Christopher Walken? (or is he too well known as being versatile?)

Liam Neeson?

Kenneth Branagh?
 
2013-12-13 03:35:08 PM  

fearmongert: Mugato: exparrot: Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.

Yeah, the ideal role for him was the straight man in "Airplane!".  He was also funny in a more comedic role in The Naked Gun in a different capacity but then people who didn't know what they were doing just made him a clown in all the later films.

So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.

Hmmm. interesting idea, but who would you pick?

Ian McShane could probably pull it off.

Christopher Walken? (or is he too well known as being versatile?)

Liam Neeson?

Kenneth Branagh?


Patrick Stewart!!!!
 
DB
2013-12-13 03:37:33 PM  

cheer: Pfighting Polish: Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.

SO MUCH THIS.

I found the movies to be meh at best, but the TV show is one of my all-time favorites.  Instead of having Drebin fumble around with dopey looks, we got a comedy where everyone is playing it 100% straight.

I do think Ed O'Neill could maybe do it, and whoever said Andre Braugher is definitely thinking along the right lines.


There you go. That's why Airplane! and Police Squad work and things like Scary Movie 8 don't. It's the irony of everyone behaving like a completely bonkers situation is totally normal. Don't cast a comedian.

/We're sorry to bother you at time like this, Mrs. Twice. We would have come earlier but your husband wasn't dead then.
 
2013-12-13 03:37:37 PM  

Mugato: exparrot: Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.

Yeah, the ideal role for him was the straight man in "Airplane!".  He was also funny in a more comedic role in The Naked Gun in a different capacity but then people who didn't know what they were doing just made him a clown in all the later films.

So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.


Tyler Perry?
 
2013-12-13 03:39:59 PM  

fearmongert: So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.

Hmmm. interesting idea, but who would you pick?

Ian McShane could probably pull it off.

Christopher Walken? (or is he too well known as being versatile?)

Liam Neeson?

Kenneth Branagh?



I dunno, I can't think of any serious actor who hasn't done some goofy shiat in their career. Morgan Feeman? He's done Batman movies but he's still thought of as a serious actor. Maybe Clint Eastwood if he was still lucid. I don't think it's something they can replicate. The parody movie thing might be over. Maybe for the best.
 
2013-12-13 03:43:50 PM  
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2013-12-13 03:45:30 PM  

DB: cheer: Pfighting Polish: Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.

SO MUCH THIS.

I found the movies to be meh at best, but the TV show is one of my all-time favorites.  Instead of having Drebin fumble around with dopey looks, we got a comedy where everyone is playing it 100% straight.

I do think Ed O'Neill could maybe do it, and whoever said Andre Braugher is definitely thinking along the right lines.

There you go. That's why Airplane! and Police Squad work and things like Scary Movie 8 don't. It's the irony of everyone behaving like a completely bonkers situation is totally normal. Don't cast a comedian.

/We're sorry to bother you at time like this, Mrs. Twice. We would have come earlier but your husband wasn't dead then.


To a lesser degree, that's the same magic that made Clue work, and Murder by Death. Deadpan hilarity. We need more of that. Hell, I'd pay good money to see Airplane! (the original cut) in theaters again.
 
2013-12-13 03:50:28 PM  
Well thank God for that.
 
2013-12-13 03:57:25 PM  

Mugato: o if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies


Anthony Hopkins - good tone and perfect delivery, though he'd die inside doing slapstick.

Ewan McGreggor

Dwane Johnson - Sure he does comedies now. but he'd do a bang up Sgt Nordberg

Someone already said it, but Jon Hamm would be spot on.

I'll take a leap : Seth McFarlane as long as he promises to stay out of the writers room.

...
 
2013-12-13 04:00:19 PM  
Why not cast Tommy Lee Jones..
 
2013-12-13 04:05:47 PM  

SordidEuphemism: DB: cheer: Pfighting Polish: Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.

SO MUCH THIS.

I found the movies to be meh at best, but the TV show is one of my all-time favorites.  Instead of having Drebin fumble around with dopey looks, we got a comedy where everyone is playing it 100% straight.

I do think Ed O'Neill could maybe do it, and whoever said Andre Braugher is definitely thinking along the right lines.

There you go. That's why Airplane! and Police Squad work and things like Scary Movie 8 don't. It's the irony of everyone behaving like a completely bonkers situation is totally normal. Don't cast a comedian.

/We're sorry to bother you at time like this, Mrs. Twice. We would have come earlier but your husband wasn't dead then.

To a lesser degree, that's the same magic that made Clue work, and Murder by Death. Deadpan hilarity. We need more of that. Hell, I'd pay good money to see Airplane! (the original cut) in theaters again.


All of the above.

Wacky Slapstick / Goofy Comedy can be very funny but for me it's Deadpan Comedy that delivers the real laughs and makes things quotable.
 
DB
2013-12-13 04:09:08 PM  

SordidEuphemism: DB: cheer: Pfighting Polish: Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.

SO MUCH THIS.

I found the movies to be meh at best, but the TV show is one of my all-time favorites.  Instead of having Drebin fumble around with dopey looks, we got a comedy where everyone is playing it 100% straight.

I do think Ed O'Neill could maybe do it, and whoever said Andre Braugher is definitely thinking along the right lines.

There you go. That's why Airplane! and Police Squad work and things like Scary Movie 8 don't. It's the irony of everyone behaving like a completely bonkers situation is totally normal. Don't cast a comedian.

/We're sorry to bother you at time like this, Mrs. Twice. We would have come earlier but your husband wasn't dead then.

To a lesser degree, that's the same magic that made Clue work, and Murder by Death. Deadpan hilarity. We need more of that. Hell, I'd pay good money to see Airplane! (the original cut) in theaters again.


Exactly. Both great movies. It's all farce. If it's played straight it seems witty and smart. If it's played burlesque it becomes buffoonery.
 
2013-12-13 04:09:56 PM  

walktoanarcade: bhcompy: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Ed O'Neill.

Now you're talking.


I always wanted a standalone Glen movie.

movieactors.com
 
2013-12-13 04:11:21 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: Wacky Slapstick / Goofy Comedy can be very funny but for me it's Deadpan Comedy that delivers the real laughs and makes things quotable.


"But what was he doing in the red light district?"

"Sex, Frank?"

"Uh, not right now Ed, we have a case to solve."
 
2013-12-13 04:13:35 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: Jon Hamm could pull it off.


Yes... This and/or Ed O'Neill. I concur
 
2013-12-13 04:14:43 PM  

SordidEuphemism: DB: cheer: ... To a lesser degree, that's the same magic that made Clue work, and Murder by Death. Deadpan hilarity. We need more of that.


See, the problem with all of this, though, is that deadpan humor is subtle.  And the problem is, it's really hard to sell subtlety.

It's hard to sell it to an executive to get it made.

It's hard to sell it to a mass audience of people, who are too dumb to drive to the theater on a snowy day without creating a 60-car pileup and who need to be hit over the head to understand what's going on.

It's hard to make a trailer or a 15-second TV promo that sells what's going on.

Etc.

I think that's part of the reason why we're seeing some really good TV and not generally seeing it in theaters.  TV, with 8,000,000 channels, can have some that afford to take the risk on something that might not be easy to sell but might be really good and might create trust in a network's product (AMC with  Breaking Badand  Mad Men, HBO with its slate of programming, etc.).  Movies don't have that luxury.

Which, again, is why I'd rather see this as a TV show, but also, again, is why it won't happen.

Frank: "Is there a ransom note?"
Ed: "Yes, the butler found it; it was tied to this window and thrown into the rock garden. I sent the note to the lab; they're demanding one million dollars."
Frank: "Why would the lab demand a million dollars?"
 
2013-12-13 04:16:12 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...

Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.


THIRDED!!
 
2013-12-13 04:19:05 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: Jon Hamm could pull it off.


good call.

At first I read this headline as Ed Harris, who I still think would be better than Ed Helms.
 
2013-12-13 04:19:13 PM  

ecl: Why not Jack Black?


Go stare at yourself in the mirror and try to say that without bursting out in laughter at the insanity of that suggestion, air.
 
2013-12-13 04:19:24 PM  

Mugato: Primitive Screwhead: Wacky Slapstick / Goofy Comedy can be very funny but for me it's Deadpan Comedy that delivers the real laughs and makes things quotable.

"But what was he doing in the red light district?"

"Sex, Frank?"

"Uh, not right now Ed, we have a case to solve."


Sorry, Buddy. No sax before a fight
 
2013-12-13 04:19:34 PM  

Already Disturbed: walktoanarcade: bhcompy: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Ed O'Neill.

Now you're talking.

I always wanted a standalone Glen movie.

[movieactors.com image 266x151]


Is that him as the odd doughnut guy in Wayne's World?  Is it 1 or 2?
He can do the deadpan delivery and make it something believable and unbelievable at the same time, kind of like Nielson.
 
2013-12-13 04:22:57 PM  
The bloopers were great.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-13 04:25:02 PM  

Crewmannumber6: facisto: I think Andre Braughner could pull off Frank Drebin.

That's the only possibility that I would pay to see.

/We would have been here sooner, but your husband wasn't dead yet.


The dead guy from Stand By Me?
 
2013-12-13 04:26:30 PM  
It's not so much that it's upsetting that that they're remaking the movie, it's the choice of using Ed Helms that makes it so wrong.  It defeats the whole purpose.  The deadpan jokes only work it's done by a serious, otherwise suave person.  Helms is an (average) goofball.  Who you need is Malcolm McDowell ala his recent sprint commercials.  If Ed Helms were delivering those lines, it would fall flat because you believe he would actually say that.
/Now look at me, having it out in the comments section
 
DB
2013-12-13 04:31:24 PM  
Pfighting Polish: ...

See, the problem with all of this, though, is that deadpan humor is subtle.  And the problem is, it's really hard to sell subtlety....

I think that's part of the reason why we're seeing some really good TV and not generally seeing it in theaters.  TV, with 8,000,000 channels, can have some that afford to take the risk on something that might not be easy to sell but might be really good and might create trust in a network's product (AMC with  Breaking Badand  Mad Men, HBO with its slate of programming, etc.).  Movies don't have that luxury.

Which, again, is why I'd rather see this as a TV show, but also, again, is why it won't happen.


All good points against why this should be made, especially with inferior talents of Ed Helms. The guy couldn't even hold his own hosting SNL.

/Next week, Timmy, we'll learn why cows look forward to being milked.
 
2013-12-13 04:31:48 PM  

fearmongert: Mugato: exparrot: Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.

Yeah, the ideal role for him was the straight man in "Airplane!".  He was also funny in a more comedic role in The Naked Gun in a different capacity but then people who didn't know what they were doing just made him a clown in all the later films.

So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.

Hmmm. interesting idea, but who would you pick?

Ian McShane could probably pull it off.

Christopher Walken? (or is he too well known as being versatile?)

Liam Neeson?

Kenneth Branagh?


I'll go with Jonathan Banks
 
2013-12-13 04:33:34 PM  
Don't know if anybody's mentioned that prior to Airplane, Leslie Nielson was primarily a dramatic actor.
 
2013-12-13 04:35:56 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Don't know if anybody's mentioned that prior to Airplane, Leslie Nielson was primarily a dramatic actor.


Surely you can't be serious!
 
ecl
2013-12-13 04:39:43 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: ecl: Why not Jack Black?

Go stare at yourself in the mirror and try to say that without bursting out in laughter at the insanity of that suggestion, air.


www.curaconflict.com
 
2013-12-13 04:39:58 PM  
I want Mark Walberg to play Ed.  Now stick with me.... he must play it as he did in The Happening.
 
2013-12-13 04:45:52 PM  

ecl: Dr Jack Badofsky: ecl: Why not Jack Black?

Go stare at yourself in the mirror and try to say that without bursting out in laughter at the insanity of that suggestion, air.

[www.curaconflict.com image 309x315]


Wow, has anyone ever told you that you look like a fish in a glass?
 
2013-12-13 04:46:06 PM  

Saiga410: I want Mark Walberg to play Ed.  Now stick with me.... he must play it as he did in The Happening.


...

Maybe.
 
DB
2013-12-13 04:46:33 PM  
Too bad Jerry Orbach is dead.
 
2013-12-13 04:47:29 PM  

Saiga410: I want Mark Walberg to play Ed.  Now stick with me.... he must play it as he did in The Happening.


What? No!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvmytj56Tck
 
2013-12-13 04:55:32 PM  
I hope this movie makes $0 at the box office.  There is absolutely no reason to reboot a film that was already done perfectly.
 
2013-12-13 04:55:34 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Saiga410: I want Mark Walberg to play Ed.  Now stick with me.... he must play it as he did in The Happening.

What? No!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvmytj56Tck


That movie holds a special place in my heart. It's the first movie both I and my wife disliked equally.
 
2013-12-13 05:00:50 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
Nothing to see here, go about your business.
 
2013-12-13 05:10:08 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: Smeggy Smurf: qorkfiend: Mikey1969: Funny trivia: Airplane! was Leslie Neilsen's first comedic role. You'd think he'd been doing it his whole life.

I didn't know that. That's pretty cool; comedy is an entirely different kind of acting altogether.

Comedy is an entirely different kind of acting

Comedy is an entirely different kind of acting


s.quickmeme.com
 
2013-12-13 05:15:08 PM  

Lipspinach: ThatBillmanGuy: CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...

Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.

That I would love to see.


Me:  "3 people all raving about this Sledge Hammer thing?  Never heard of it."
*Googles*
Me:  "OMG, that sounds friggin' AWESOME!"

/Everyone watched Miami Vice in my house, so I'd never seen it.
//Off to Netflix!
 
2013-12-13 05:18:22 PM  

trickymoo: Mugato: o if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies

Anthony Hopkins - good tone and perfect delivery, though he'd die inside doing slapstick.

Ewan McGreggor

Dwane Johnson - Sure he does comedies now. but he'd do a bang up Sgt Nordberg

Someone already said it, but Jon Hamm would be spot on.

I'll take a leap : Seth McFarlane as long as he promises to stay out of the writers room.

...


Anthony Hpkins came to my mind as well... especially considering Hannibal
 
2013-12-13 05:20:50 PM  

Saiga410: I want Mark Walberg to play Ed.  Now stick with me.... he must play it as he did in The Happening.


Say Hi to your mother for me!
 
2013-12-13 05:23:14 PM  

DB: Too bad Jerry Orbach is dead.


Genius choice.... too bad indead....

typo, meant to type indeed... but that typo was tooooo good to correct1
 
2013-12-13 05:25:39 PM  

brigid_fitch: Lipspinach: ThatBillmanGuy: CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...

Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.

That I would love to see.

Me:  "3 people all raving about this Sledge Hammer thing?  Never heard of it."
*Googles*
Me:  "OMG, that sounds friggin' AWESOME!"

/Everyone watched Miami Vice in my house, so I'd never seen it.
//Off to Netflix!


Yes, do see it.  Its great.  Loved it as a kid.
 
2013-12-13 05:26:33 PM  
This thread made me go to Amazon Prime and re-watch "The Kentucky Fried Movie" for the 50th time, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-12-13 05:28:23 PM  
Jonathan Frakes
 
2013-12-13 05:44:44 PM  
I recently watched Hot Shots! and Part Deux! on PVR.  They didn't age well at all.

Jim Abrahams and the Zucker Brothers haven't made a good movie in over a decade.

On the other hand, I kind of like Steve Carell's version of Get Smart.  I also like Rowan Atkinson's Johnny English.

To sum up ... this movie will in all likelyhood suck.  But maybe it will be an amusing diversion for 90 minutes.
 
2013-12-13 05:45:47 PM  

Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen

Liam Neeson simply cannot be replaced.

This is what my brain said the first time I read it.

/More booze is obviously needed.
 
DB
2013-12-13 05:51:55 PM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen Liam Neeson simply cannot be replaced.

This is what my brain said the first time I read it.

/More booze is obviously needed.


That would actually work a lot better than Ed Helms.
 
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