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2013-12-13 02:22:26 PM  
The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.
 
2013-12-13 02:30:33 PM  
Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.
 
2013-12-13 02:31:38 PM  

Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.


This, this and THIS

The same thing with the Pink Panther movies. You just cannot replace Peter Sellers.
 
2013-12-13 02:33:06 PM  

Babbs: Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.

This, this and THIS

The same thing with the Pink Panther movies. You just cannot replace Peter Sellers.


Or Herbert Lom.
 
2013-12-13 02:33:20 PM  
Nothing to see here indeed.
 
2013-12-13 02:34:44 PM  
It'll be like eating a spoonful of Drano. Sure, it'll clean you out, but it'll leave you hollow inside.
 
2013-12-13 02:34:46 PM  

Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.


Dude, can I have your dealer's number? 'Cuz you seem to be scoring better shiat if you really believe that.
 
2013-12-13 02:35:44 PM  

LouisZepher: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Dude, can I have your dealer's number? 'Cuz you seem to be scoring better shiat if you really believe that.


Yeah, I'm a big Steve Martin fan, but... I don't see it.
 
2013-12-13 02:36:33 PM  
I would have been far happier if they had just decided to make more episodes of  Police Squad!

Six episodes of the show got made and it was one of the more underrated comedies of all-time.  There were too few  Police Squad episodes, and too many  Naked Gun movies.  Plus, I'd far rather have good TV than a bad movie.

Of course, media companies would far rather have a bad movie than good TV because people pay for bad movies, while good TV doesn't net the same kind of revenue.  So, yet again, what's best takes a back seat to what's profitable.

I hate life.
 
2013-12-13 02:36:43 PM  

Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.


Done in one.
 
2013-12-13 02:37:33 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: LouisZepher: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Dude, can I have your dealer's number? 'Cuz you seem to be scoring better shiat if you really believe that.

Yeah, I'm a big Steve Martin fan, but... I don't see it.


Depends, pre-banjo Steve Martin or Post-banjo Steve Martin
 
2013-12-13 02:39:57 PM  
They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...
 
2013-12-13 02:40:19 PM  

JolobinSmokin: ThatBillmanGuy: LouisZepher: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Dude, can I have your dealer's number? 'Cuz you seem to be scoring better shiat if you really believe that.

Yeah, I'm a big Steve Martin fan, but... I don't see it.

Depends, pre-banjo Steve Martin or Post-banjo Steve Martin


You realize there really isn't a pre-banjo Steve Martin, right? It's kind of always been his thing.
 
2013-12-13 02:41:59 PM  

CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...


Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.
 
2013-12-13 02:42:18 PM  

Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.


Exactly... Helms is funny, but this isn't his role. The studios don't understand that sometimes movies just 'work', and the people involved can be a magic ingredient that can never quite be replicated.

Other movies are a product of their time, and only worked in the era they camme out in, but this one really IS all about cast.

Funny trivia: Airplane! was Leslie Neilsen's first comedic role. You'd think he'd been doing it his whole life.
 
2013-12-13 02:43:17 PM  

JolobinSmokin: Depends. Pre-banjo Steve Martin or Post-banjo Steve Martin?


Umm... (sfw)

Agree completely that this is a fool's errand.
 
2013-12-13 02:44:24 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...

Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.


That I would love to see.
 
2013-12-13 02:46:27 PM  
Sideline gripe:  Did you realize that the first Naked Gun film was only rated "PG-13", while Exit Through the Gift Shop is rated "R?"  what this means, is that as an art teacher in a high school, it would be OK for me to show my students the first Naked Gun film without permission slips, but to show Exit Through the Gift Shop I would need prior approval from the school principal and signed permission slips from all the parents.

Pretty farking ridiculous, right?
 
2013-12-13 02:46:38 PM  

Pfighting Polish: I would have been far happier if they had just decided to make more episodes of  Police Squad!

Six episodes of the show got made and it was one of the more underrated comedies of all-time.  There were too few  Police Squad episodes, and too many  Naked Gun movies.  Plus, I'd far rather have good TV than a bad movie.

Of course, media companies would far rather have a bad movie than good TV because people pay for bad movies, while good TV doesn't net the same kind of revenue.  So, yet again, what's best takes a back seat to what's profitable.

I hate life.


I heard an interview somewhere (Police Squad DVD perhaps?) of Leslie Nielsen explaining why he thought Police Squad failed on TV. He thought it was due to all of the sight gags. You really do have to be "tuned in" to get all of the jokes. Not doing your taxes, or the laundry or cooking dinner or something. Dialed. IN.

/I'm with you, bring back Police Squad!
//not Naked Gun
///I'll probably try it. I kinda like Ed Helms
 
2013-12-13 02:46:47 PM  
Finally, the watered-down, politically correct Naked Gun film is coming from my nightmares to the silver screen!
 
2013-12-13 02:47:15 PM  

Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.


Babbs: The same thing with the Pink Panther movies. You just cannot replace Peter Sellers.


Pretty funny sequence of posts, right there.
 
2013-12-13 02:50:47 PM  
BOOOOO!!!! Police Squad/Naked Gun/Frank Drebin died with Nielsen.
 
2013-12-13 02:51:51 PM  

Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.


Ed O'Neill.  End of story.

/plays a cop well
//parallels to Nielsen starting with drama and switching to comedy
///can play the straightman and deadpan roles better than anyone else alive
 
2013-12-13 02:53:01 PM  

Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.


What he said.

Besides the fact that they've done the "parody movie" thing to death and failed miserably, Nothing that made The Naked Gun work is reproducible now. Leslie Nielsen was a dramatic actor before Airplane!. His deadpan delivery sold the comedy. It's just not going to happen.
 
2013-12-13 02:54:25 PM  

SubBass49: Sideline gripe:  Did you realize that the first Naked Gun film was only rated "PG-13", while Exit Through the Gift Shop is rated "R?"  what this means, is that as an art teacher in a high school, it would be OK for me to show my students the first Naked Gun film without permission slips, but to show Exit Through the Gift Shop I would need prior approval from the school principal and signed permission slips from all the parents.

Pretty farking ridiculous, right?


Romeo and Juliet ('68 version) is a 10th grade staple around here.  It's PG and shows underage tits.  No approval required.
 
2013-12-13 02:56:31 PM  

Mikey1969: Funny trivia: Airplane! was Leslie Neilsen's first comedic role. You'd think he'd been doing it his whole life.


I didn't know that. That's pretty cool; comedy is an entirely different kind of acting altogether.
 
2013-12-13 02:57:58 PM  

media.komonews.com

You guys hiring?

 
2013-12-13 02:58:29 PM  

bhcompy: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Ed O'Neill.


Now you're talking.
 
2013-12-13 02:59:17 PM  
Hmmm, like a blind man at an orgy I'm going to have to feel my way around.

/the bigger question is OJ reprising his role? Maybe Tyson could be Nordberg
//on my toes...like a midget at a urinal
 
2013-12-13 03:01:11 PM  

qorkfiend: Mikey1969: Funny trivia: Airplane! was Leslie Neilsen's first comedic role. You'd think he'd been doing it his whole life.

I didn't know that. That's pretty cool; comedy is an entirely different kind of acting altogether.


Comedy is an entirely different kind of acting
 
2013-12-13 03:02:57 PM  

LouisZepher: Dude, can I have your dealer's number? 'Cuz you seem to be scoring better shiat if you really believe that.


For you:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9zfxe4JVlQ   There's a lot of Drebin in this scene.

Hoboclown: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.
Babbs: The same thing with the Pink Panther movies. You just cannot replace Peter Sellers.

Pretty funny sequence of posts, right there.


This was actually the joke.   "In before Pink Panther references...."   Too subtle for FARK?   I actually think Martin would be better as Drebin than he was as Cleusau.
 
ecl
2013-12-13 03:05:42 PM  
Why not Jack Black?
 
2013-12-13 03:05:52 PM  

FakeMeat: I heard an interview somewhere (Police Squad DVD perhaps?) of Leslie Nielsen explaining why he thought Police Squad failed on TV. He thought it was due to all of the sight gags. You really do have to be "tuned in" to get all of the jokes. Not doing your taxes, or the laundry or cooking dinner or something. Dialed. IN.


Wiki, FWIW, says something along the same lines as to ABC's explanation of why they cancelled it.  Matt Groening of  Simpsons fame says that show would work now.  Think  Archer, too.

Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.

Many of the TV shows were drawn line-for-line from  M Squad episodes, the same way  Airplane! was drawn directly from  Zero Hour.  In the end, that seems like a great way to go.  Almost would like to see a show skewer  Law & Order or  CSI that way.
 
2013-12-13 03:06:00 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: qorkfiend: Mikey1969: Funny trivia: Airplane! was Leslie Neilsen's first comedic role. You'd think he'd been doing it his whole life.

I didn't know that. That's pretty cool; comedy is an entirely different kind of acting altogether.

Comedy is an entirely different kind of acting


Comedy is an entirely different kind of acting
 
2013-12-13 03:06:17 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: BOOOOO!!!! Police Squad/Naked Gun/Frank Drebin died with Nielsen. Naked Gun 33 1/3


FTFY.
 
2013-12-13 03:07:29 PM  
just don't remake Forbidden Planet with Ed Helms too
 
2013-12-13 03:07:57 PM  

ecl: Why not Jack Black?


They want it to remain a comedy.
 
2013-12-13 03:09:08 PM  
I think Andre Braughner could pull off Frank Drebin.
 
2013-12-13 03:12:41 PM  

Johnson: just don't remake Forbidden Planet with Ed Helms too


I would enjoy a Forbidden Planet remake. However I'm sure it'd be so CGI rich that it'd be unrecognizable as coming from the same source.
 
2013-12-13 03:13:15 PM  
NOPE
 
2013-12-13 03:14:23 PM  
It would be an entirely different kind of movie, altogether.
 
2013-12-13 03:14:41 PM  
bhcompy:    Ed O'Neill

YOU!  I like you.


js34603:   Tyson could be Nordberg

I've seen worse ideas

/HEY! IT'S ENRICO PALLAZZO!
 
2013-12-13 03:16:30 PM  
Jon Hamm could pull it off.
 
2013-12-13 03:18:53 PM  

Pfighting Polish: FakeMeat:

Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.


Agreed
 
2013-12-13 03:19:20 PM  
Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.
 
2013-12-13 03:20:15 PM  
Disappointed that neither the headline nor the initial posting contained the phrase "Surely you can't be serious"

/yea, yea different movie, wanna fight about it?
 
2013-12-13 03:21:41 PM  
Surely you can be serious?
 
2013-12-13 03:24:40 PM  

Opiate of the Lasses: Disappointed that neither the headline nor the initial posting contained the phrase "Surely you can't be serious"

/yea, yea different movie, wanna fight about it?


That's my ringtone....

Every time my phone rings;

"Surely you can't be serious.
I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"...

On a loop.
Sometimes I wait to answer calls, just to see the weird looks I get from those around.
Funny thing is watching people under thirty that don't know where it's from.

/my lawn, get off.
 
2013-12-13 03:25:20 PM  

Pfighting Polish: Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.


SO MUCH THIS.

I found the movies to be meh at best, but the TV show is one of my all-time favorites.  Instead of having Drebin fumble around with dopey looks, we got a comedy where everyone is playing it 100% straight.

I do think Ed O'Neill could maybe do it, and whoever said Andre Braugher is definitely thinking along the right lines.
 
2013-12-13 03:28:29 PM  

exparrot: Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.


Yeah, the ideal role for him was the straight man in "Airplane!".  He was also funny in a more comedic role in The Naked Gun in a different capacity but then people who didn't know what they were doing just made him a clown in all the later films.

So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.
 
2013-12-13 03:29:41 PM  

deadsanta: Babbs: Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.

This, this and THIS

The same thing with the Pink Panther movies. You just cannot replace Peter Sellers.

Or Herbert Lom.


Or Dick York.
 
2013-12-13 03:31:25 PM  

facisto: I think Andre Braughner could pull off Frank Drebin.


That's the only possibility that I would pay to see.

/We would have been here sooner, but your husband wasn't dead yet.
 
2013-12-13 03:34:05 PM  

Mugato: exparrot: Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.

Yeah, the ideal role for him was the straight man in "Airplane!".  He was also funny in a more comedic role in The Naked Gun in a different capacity but then people who didn't know what they were doing just made him a clown in all the later films.

So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.


Hmmm. interesting idea, but who would you pick?

Ian McShane could probably pull it off.

Christopher Walken? (or is he too well known as being versatile?)

Liam Neeson?

Kenneth Branagh?
 
2013-12-13 03:35:08 PM  

fearmongert: Mugato: exparrot: Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.

Yeah, the ideal role for him was the straight man in "Airplane!".  He was also funny in a more comedic role in The Naked Gun in a different capacity but then people who didn't know what they were doing just made him a clown in all the later films.

So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.

Hmmm. interesting idea, but who would you pick?

Ian McShane could probably pull it off.

Christopher Walken? (or is he too well known as being versatile?)

Liam Neeson?

Kenneth Branagh?


Patrick Stewart!!!!
 
DB
2013-12-13 03:37:33 PM  

cheer: Pfighting Polish: Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.

SO MUCH THIS.

I found the movies to be meh at best, but the TV show is one of my all-time favorites.  Instead of having Drebin fumble around with dopey looks, we got a comedy where everyone is playing it 100% straight.

I do think Ed O'Neill could maybe do it, and whoever said Andre Braugher is definitely thinking along the right lines.


There you go. That's why Airplane! and Police Squad work and things like Scary Movie 8 don't. It's the irony of everyone behaving like a completely bonkers situation is totally normal. Don't cast a comedian.

/We're sorry to bother you at time like this, Mrs. Twice. We would have come earlier but your husband wasn't dead then.
 
2013-12-13 03:37:37 PM  

Mugato: exparrot: Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.

Yeah, the ideal role for him was the straight man in "Airplane!".  He was also funny in a more comedic role in The Naked Gun in a different capacity but then people who didn't know what they were doing just made him a clown in all the later films.

So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.


Tyler Perry?
 
2013-12-13 03:39:59 PM  

fearmongert: So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.

Hmmm. interesting idea, but who would you pick?

Ian McShane could probably pull it off.

Christopher Walken? (or is he too well known as being versatile?)

Liam Neeson?

Kenneth Branagh?



I dunno, I can't think of any serious actor who hasn't done some goofy shiat in their career. Morgan Feeman? He's done Batman movies but he's still thought of as a serious actor. Maybe Clint Eastwood if he was still lucid. I don't think it's something they can replicate. The parody movie thing might be over. Maybe for the best.
 
2013-12-13 03:43:50 PM  
www3.pictures.zimbio.com
 
2013-12-13 03:45:30 PM  

DB: cheer: Pfighting Polish: Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.

SO MUCH THIS.

I found the movies to be meh at best, but the TV show is one of my all-time favorites.  Instead of having Drebin fumble around with dopey looks, we got a comedy where everyone is playing it 100% straight.

I do think Ed O'Neill could maybe do it, and whoever said Andre Braugher is definitely thinking along the right lines.

There you go. That's why Airplane! and Police Squad work and things like Scary Movie 8 don't. It's the irony of everyone behaving like a completely bonkers situation is totally normal. Don't cast a comedian.

/We're sorry to bother you at time like this, Mrs. Twice. We would have come earlier but your husband wasn't dead then.


To a lesser degree, that's the same magic that made Clue work, and Murder by Death. Deadpan hilarity. We need more of that. Hell, I'd pay good money to see Airplane! (the original cut) in theaters again.
 
2013-12-13 03:50:28 PM  
Well thank God for that.
 
2013-12-13 03:57:25 PM  

Mugato: o if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies


Anthony Hopkins - good tone and perfect delivery, though he'd die inside doing slapstick.

Ewan McGreggor

Dwane Johnson - Sure he does comedies now. but he'd do a bang up Sgt Nordberg

Someone already said it, but Jon Hamm would be spot on.

I'll take a leap : Seth McFarlane as long as he promises to stay out of the writers room.

...
 
2013-12-13 04:00:19 PM  
Why not cast Tommy Lee Jones..
 
2013-12-13 04:05:47 PM  

SordidEuphemism: DB: cheer: Pfighting Polish: Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.

SO MUCH THIS.

I found the movies to be meh at best, but the TV show is one of my all-time favorites.  Instead of having Drebin fumble around with dopey looks, we got a comedy where everyone is playing it 100% straight.

I do think Ed O'Neill could maybe do it, and whoever said Andre Braugher is definitely thinking along the right lines.

There you go. That's why Airplane! and Police Squad work and things like Scary Movie 8 don't. It's the irony of everyone behaving like a completely bonkers situation is totally normal. Don't cast a comedian.

/We're sorry to bother you at time like this, Mrs. Twice. We would have come earlier but your husband wasn't dead then.

To a lesser degree, that's the same magic that made Clue work, and Murder by Death. Deadpan hilarity. We need more of that. Hell, I'd pay good money to see Airplane! (the original cut) in theaters again.


All of the above.

Wacky Slapstick / Goofy Comedy can be very funny but for me it's Deadpan Comedy that delivers the real laughs and makes things quotable.
 
DB
2013-12-13 04:09:08 PM  

SordidEuphemism: DB: cheer: Pfighting Polish: Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.

SO MUCH THIS.

I found the movies to be meh at best, but the TV show is one of my all-time favorites.  Instead of having Drebin fumble around with dopey looks, we got a comedy where everyone is playing it 100% straight.

I do think Ed O'Neill could maybe do it, and whoever said Andre Braugher is definitely thinking along the right lines.

There you go. That's why Airplane! and Police Squad work and things like Scary Movie 8 don't. It's the irony of everyone behaving like a completely bonkers situation is totally normal. Don't cast a comedian.

/We're sorry to bother you at time like this, Mrs. Twice. We would have come earlier but your husband wasn't dead then.

To a lesser degree, that's the same magic that made Clue work, and Murder by Death. Deadpan hilarity. We need more of that. Hell, I'd pay good money to see Airplane! (the original cut) in theaters again.


Exactly. Both great movies. It's all farce. If it's played straight it seems witty and smart. If it's played burlesque it becomes buffoonery.
 
2013-12-13 04:09:56 PM  

walktoanarcade: bhcompy: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Ed O'Neill.

Now you're talking.


I always wanted a standalone Glen movie.

movieactors.com
 
2013-12-13 04:11:21 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: Wacky Slapstick / Goofy Comedy can be very funny but for me it's Deadpan Comedy that delivers the real laughs and makes things quotable.


"But what was he doing in the red light district?"

"Sex, Frank?"

"Uh, not right now Ed, we have a case to solve."
 
2013-12-13 04:13:35 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: Jon Hamm could pull it off.


Yes... This and/or Ed O'Neill. I concur
 
2013-12-13 04:14:43 PM  

SordidEuphemism: DB: cheer: ... To a lesser degree, that's the same magic that made Clue work, and Murder by Death. Deadpan hilarity. We need more of that.


See, the problem with all of this, though, is that deadpan humor is subtle.  And the problem is, it's really hard to sell subtlety.

It's hard to sell it to an executive to get it made.

It's hard to sell it to a mass audience of people, who are too dumb to drive to the theater on a snowy day without creating a 60-car pileup and who need to be hit over the head to understand what's going on.

It's hard to make a trailer or a 15-second TV promo that sells what's going on.

Etc.

I think that's part of the reason why we're seeing some really good TV and not generally seeing it in theaters.  TV, with 8,000,000 channels, can have some that afford to take the risk on something that might not be easy to sell but might be really good and might create trust in a network's product (AMC with  Breaking Badand  Mad Men, HBO with its slate of programming, etc.).  Movies don't have that luxury.

Which, again, is why I'd rather see this as a TV show, but also, again, is why it won't happen.

Frank: "Is there a ransom note?"
Ed: "Yes, the butler found it; it was tied to this window and thrown into the rock garden. I sent the note to the lab; they're demanding one million dollars."
Frank: "Why would the lab demand a million dollars?"
 
2013-12-13 04:16:12 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...

Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.


THIRDED!!
 
2013-12-13 04:19:05 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: Jon Hamm could pull it off.


good call.

At first I read this headline as Ed Harris, who I still think would be better than Ed Helms.
 
2013-12-13 04:19:13 PM  

ecl: Why not Jack Black?


Go stare at yourself in the mirror and try to say that without bursting out in laughter at the insanity of that suggestion, air.
 
2013-12-13 04:19:24 PM  

Mugato: Primitive Screwhead: Wacky Slapstick / Goofy Comedy can be very funny but for me it's Deadpan Comedy that delivers the real laughs and makes things quotable.

"But what was he doing in the red light district?"

"Sex, Frank?"

"Uh, not right now Ed, we have a case to solve."


Sorry, Buddy. No sax before a fight
 
2013-12-13 04:19:34 PM  

Already Disturbed: walktoanarcade: bhcompy: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Ed O'Neill.

Now you're talking.

I always wanted a standalone Glen movie.

[movieactors.com image 266x151]


Is that him as the odd doughnut guy in Wayne's World?  Is it 1 or 2?
He can do the deadpan delivery and make it something believable and unbelievable at the same time, kind of like Nielson.
 
2013-12-13 04:22:57 PM  
The bloopers were great.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-13 04:25:02 PM  

Crewmannumber6: facisto: I think Andre Braughner could pull off Frank Drebin.

That's the only possibility that I would pay to see.

/We would have been here sooner, but your husband wasn't dead yet.


The dead guy from Stand By Me?
 
2013-12-13 04:26:30 PM  
It's not so much that it's upsetting that that they're remaking the movie, it's the choice of using Ed Helms that makes it so wrong.  It defeats the whole purpose.  The deadpan jokes only work it's done by a serious, otherwise suave person.  Helms is an (average) goofball.  Who you need is Malcolm McDowell ala his recent sprint commercials.  If Ed Helms were delivering those lines, it would fall flat because you believe he would actually say that.
/Now look at me, having it out in the comments section
 
DB
2013-12-13 04:31:24 PM  
Pfighting Polish: ...

See, the problem with all of this, though, is that deadpan humor is subtle.  And the problem is, it's really hard to sell subtlety....

I think that's part of the reason why we're seeing some really good TV and not generally seeing it in theaters.  TV, with 8,000,000 channels, can have some that afford to take the risk on something that might not be easy to sell but might be really good and might create trust in a network's product (AMC with  Breaking Badand  Mad Men, HBO with its slate of programming, etc.).  Movies don't have that luxury.

Which, again, is why I'd rather see this as a TV show, but also, again, is why it won't happen.


All good points against why this should be made, especially with inferior talents of Ed Helms. The guy couldn't even hold his own hosting SNL.

/Next week, Timmy, we'll learn why cows look forward to being milked.
 
2013-12-13 04:31:48 PM  

fearmongert: Mugato: exparrot: Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.

Yeah, the ideal role for him was the straight man in "Airplane!".  He was also funny in a more comedic role in The Naked Gun in a different capacity but then people who didn't know what they were doing just made him a clown in all the later films.

So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.

Hmmm. interesting idea, but who would you pick?

Ian McShane could probably pull it off.

Christopher Walken? (or is he too well known as being versatile?)

Liam Neeson?

Kenneth Branagh?


I'll go with Jonathan Banks
 
2013-12-13 04:33:34 PM  
Don't know if anybody's mentioned that prior to Airplane, Leslie Nielson was primarily a dramatic actor.
 
2013-12-13 04:35:56 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Don't know if anybody's mentioned that prior to Airplane, Leslie Nielson was primarily a dramatic actor.


Surely you can't be serious!
 
ecl
2013-12-13 04:39:43 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: ecl: Why not Jack Black?

Go stare at yourself in the mirror and try to say that without bursting out in laughter at the insanity of that suggestion, air.


www.curaconflict.com
 
2013-12-13 04:39:58 PM  
I want Mark Walberg to play Ed.  Now stick with me.... he must play it as he did in The Happening.
 
2013-12-13 04:45:52 PM  

ecl: Dr Jack Badofsky: ecl: Why not Jack Black?

Go stare at yourself in the mirror and try to say that without bursting out in laughter at the insanity of that suggestion, air.

[www.curaconflict.com image 309x315]


Wow, has anyone ever told you that you look like a fish in a glass?
 
2013-12-13 04:46:06 PM  

Saiga410: I want Mark Walberg to play Ed.  Now stick with me.... he must play it as he did in The Happening.


...

Maybe.
 
DB
2013-12-13 04:46:33 PM  
Too bad Jerry Orbach is dead.
 
2013-12-13 04:47:29 PM  

Saiga410: I want Mark Walberg to play Ed.  Now stick with me.... he must play it as he did in The Happening.


What? No!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvmytj56Tck
 
2013-12-13 04:55:32 PM  
I hope this movie makes $0 at the box office.  There is absolutely no reason to reboot a film that was already done perfectly.
 
2013-12-13 04:55:34 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Saiga410: I want Mark Walberg to play Ed.  Now stick with me.... he must play it as he did in The Happening.

What? No!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvmytj56Tck


That movie holds a special place in my heart. It's the first movie both I and my wife disliked equally.
 
2013-12-13 05:00:50 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
Nothing to see here, go about your business.
 
2013-12-13 05:10:08 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: Smeggy Smurf: qorkfiend: Mikey1969: Funny trivia: Airplane! was Leslie Neilsen's first comedic role. You'd think he'd been doing it his whole life.

I didn't know that. That's pretty cool; comedy is an entirely different kind of acting altogether.

Comedy is an entirely different kind of acting

Comedy is an entirely different kind of acting


s.quickmeme.com
 
2013-12-13 05:15:08 PM  

Lipspinach: ThatBillmanGuy: CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...

Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.

That I would love to see.


Me:  "3 people all raving about this Sledge Hammer thing?  Never heard of it."
*Googles*
Me:  "OMG, that sounds friggin' AWESOME!"

/Everyone watched Miami Vice in my house, so I'd never seen it.
//Off to Netflix!
 
2013-12-13 05:18:22 PM  

trickymoo: Mugato: o if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies

Anthony Hopkins - good tone and perfect delivery, though he'd die inside doing slapstick.

Ewan McGreggor

Dwane Johnson - Sure he does comedies now. but he'd do a bang up Sgt Nordberg

Someone already said it, but Jon Hamm would be spot on.

I'll take a leap : Seth McFarlane as long as he promises to stay out of the writers room.

...


Anthony Hpkins came to my mind as well... especially considering Hannibal
 
2013-12-13 05:20:50 PM  

Saiga410: I want Mark Walberg to play Ed.  Now stick with me.... he must play it as he did in The Happening.


Say Hi to your mother for me!
 
2013-12-13 05:23:14 PM  

DB: Too bad Jerry Orbach is dead.


Genius choice.... too bad indead....

typo, meant to type indeed... but that typo was tooooo good to correct1
 
2013-12-13 05:25:39 PM  

brigid_fitch: Lipspinach: ThatBillmanGuy: CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...

Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.

That I would love to see.

Me:  "3 people all raving about this Sledge Hammer thing?  Never heard of it."
*Googles*
Me:  "OMG, that sounds friggin' AWESOME!"

/Everyone watched Miami Vice in my house, so I'd never seen it.
//Off to Netflix!


Yes, do see it.  Its great.  Loved it as a kid.
 
2013-12-13 05:26:33 PM  
This thread made me go to Amazon Prime and re-watch "The Kentucky Fried Movie" for the 50th time, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-12-13 05:28:23 PM  
Jonathan Frakes
 
2013-12-13 05:44:44 PM  
I recently watched Hot Shots! and Part Deux! on PVR.  They didn't age well at all.

Jim Abrahams and the Zucker Brothers haven't made a good movie in over a decade.

On the other hand, I kind of like Steve Carell's version of Get Smart.  I also like Rowan Atkinson's Johnny English.

To sum up ... this movie will in all likelyhood suck.  But maybe it will be an amusing diversion for 90 minutes.
 
2013-12-13 05:45:47 PM  

Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen

Liam Neeson simply cannot be replaced.

This is what my brain said the first time I read it.

/More booze is obviously needed.
 
DB
2013-12-13 05:51:55 PM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen Liam Neeson simply cannot be replaced.

This is what my brain said the first time I read it.

/More booze is obviously needed.


That would actually work a lot better than Ed Helms.
 
2013-12-13 05:53:45 PM  

Pfighting Polish: I would have been far happier if they had just decided to make more episodes of  Police Squad!

Six episodes of the show got made and it was one of the more underrated comedies of all-time.  There were too few  Police Squad episodes, and too many  Naked Gun movies.  Plus, I'd far rather have good TV than a bad movie.

Of course, media companies would far rather have a bad movie than good TV because people pay for bad movies, while good TV doesn't net the same kind of revenue.  So, yet again, what's best takes a back seat to what's profitable.

I hate life.


Agreed. A new TV show could work. Wasn't one of the main complaints about "Police Squad" that the gags came too fast and people who weren't paying full attention missed them? Now that we have DVRs I don't see that being as big a problem.
 
2013-12-13 06:01:26 PM  

Brokenseas: I recently watched Hot Shots! and Part Deux! on PVR.  They didn't age well at all.

Jim Abrahams and the Zucker Brothers haven't made a good movie in over a decade.

On the other hand, I kind of like Steve Carell's version of Get Smart.  I also like Rowan Atkinson's Johnny English.

To sum up ... this movie will in all likelyhood suck.  But maybe it will be an amusing diversion for 90 minutes.


Hot Shots: Part Deux still works for me, even if you don't get the specific references like Rambo with the bow and arrow, or Ah-nold firing a .50 cal machine gun one-handed. Charlie Sheen had the right attitude to be able to play it deadpan but still make sure the joke got through.
 
2013-12-13 06:07:43 PM  
http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2010/11/29/131661180/remembering-le slie-nielsen-a-master-of-the-art-of-not-being-funny

"For most of my career, I've been a dramatic actor. But ever since "Airplane!" and "Police Squad", and "Naked Gun: from the Files of Police Squad", everybody thinks I'm a comedian. But that's not quite true. A comedian is someone who says funny things. A comic is someone who says things funny. Well, I'm neither. I'm someone who says unfunny things. I say unfunny things in an unfunny way. And somehow it seems to end up funny. You see, for some reason, over the years, maybe it's the way I look, or maybe it's the sound of my voice -- [ starts to crack up ] -- but I have been cast in, as authority figures -- [ regains his composure ] -- well now, for example, say I'm a high school principal. Now in a drama, I would say a line like this one, I'd say: "Come in, Jimmy, have a seat. There's something I think we should talk about." Now, in a comedy, I would deliver the same line, but I'd say it like this: [ same voice ] "Come in, Jimmy, have a seat. There's something I think we should talk about." See what I mean?"

- Leslie Neilsen, SNL, Season 14, Episode 13
 
2013-12-13 06:18:15 PM  

brigid_fitch: Lipspinach: ThatBillmanGuy: CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...

Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.

That I would love to see.

Me:  "3 people all raving about this Sledge Hammer thing?  Never heard of it."
*Googles*
Me:  "OMG, that sounds friggin' AWESOME!"

/Everyone watched Miami Vice in my house, so I'd never seen it.
//Off to Netflix!


It was.
 
2013-12-13 06:27:15 PM  
FTA ".. the three films cumed $275 million."
 
2013-12-13 06:28:53 PM  

Mugato: exparrot: Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.

Yeah, the ideal role for him was the straight man in "Airplane!".  He was also funny in a more comedic role in The Naked Gun in a different capacity but then people who didn't know what they were doing just made him a clown in all the later films.

So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.


Like Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove.
 
2013-12-13 06:48:00 PM  

freakingmoron: FTA ".. the three films cumed $275 million."


Variety-speak.
 
2013-12-13 07:11:36 PM  

downstairs: brigid_fitch: Lipspinach: ThatBillmanGuy: CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...

Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.

That I would love to see.

Me:  "3 people all raving about this Sledge Hammer thing?  Never heard of it."
*Googles*
Me:  "OMG, that sounds friggin' AWESOME!"

/Everyone watched Miami Vice in my house, so I'd never seen it.
//Off to Netflix!

Yes, do see it.  Its great.  Loved it as a kid.


Sledge still needs a proper series finale.
 
2013-12-13 07:13:32 PM  
Hollywood makes deliberate klunkers like this, specifically so they have something they can write off as a tax loss against their successes. It's all part of the accounting game, whereby no movie ever actually makes a profit.

My guess is the studio sees a hit coming, and need this to cancel it out.
 
2013-12-13 07:14:30 PM  
Police Squad is available and highly recommended
 
2013-12-13 07:15:24 PM  

trickymoo: Anthony Hopkins - good tone and perfect delivery, though he'd die inside doing slapstick.


Which is why the TV show was so much better.  It wasn't slapstick; it was deadpan farce.
 
2013-12-13 08:06:28 PM  
When I got home I received a call from Mimi Du Jour.  She wanted me to come to the club right away. Since I had no idea where the Club Rightaway was, I suggested to go to the Club Flamingo. She agreed.
 
2013-12-13 08:08:53 PM  
It was one of those all-night wicker places.
 
2013-12-13 08:15:05 PM  
Shatner.
 
2013-12-13 08:54:23 PM  
I had a little hunch back at the office.
 
2013-12-13 09:01:56 PM  
The first thing I thought of when I saw this headline was.....

thumbs2.ebaystatic.com

Not a good thing.

/I agree Ed O'Neill would be awesome in the role
 
2013-12-13 09:10:08 PM  
Leslie Nielson is rolling in his grave right now, and farting in their general direction!
How can you possibly top this scene?

www.frikipedia.es

We miss you, Anna. You were truly a gifted actress.
 
2013-12-13 09:23:27 PM  
Bill Hader could pull it off.
 
2013-12-13 10:21:37 PM  
Wtf. This is worse than if someone tries to remake Mr. Magoo
 
2013-12-13 10:43:13 PM  
I hate Ed Helms. Everything he's ever done. shiat.
 
2013-12-13 11:13:12 PM  

downstairs: Yes, do see it.  Its great.  Loved it as a kid.


StoPPeRmobile: It was


Primitive Screwhead: Sledge still needs a proper series finale.


Re: Sledge Hammer:  I'm...I'm sorry.  11 minutes into the first episode and I just couldn't take the laugh track anymore.
 
2013-12-14 07:19:18 AM  
It's a long way, Frank. Want to take a dinghy?
No, I took care of that back at the office
 
2013-12-14 12:34:06 PM  
Cigarette?
 
2013-12-14 12:42:36 PM  

cheer: Cigarette?


Yes it is.

Stripper: "Is this some kind of bust?"

Drebin: "Yes, it's very impressive, but we need to ask you some questions."
 
2013-12-14 04:50:07 PM  
In case anyone is bored, Naked Gun is on HDNet Movies right now.

Also, no one mentioned Dan Ackroyd as a potential Drebin.  He was perfect as Joe Friday, which Drebin is obviously modeled after.
 
2013-12-14 06:41:25 PM  

bhcompy: Also, no one mentioned Dan Ackroyd as a potential Drebin.  He was perfect as Joe Friday, which Drebin is obviously modeled after.


I dunno; it's been a LONG time since he's done a good straight man, and even his Joe Friday was not great IMO.
 
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