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(Variety)   Great news: That Naked Gun reboot with Ed Helms as Frank Drebin that nobody wants is getting made   (variety.com) divider line 126
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2013-12-13 02:22:26 PM
The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.
 
2013-12-13 02:30:33 PM
Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.
 
2013-12-13 02:31:38 PM

Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.


This, this and THIS

The same thing with the Pink Panther movies. You just cannot replace Peter Sellers.
 
2013-12-13 02:33:06 PM

Babbs: Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.

This, this and THIS

The same thing with the Pink Panther movies. You just cannot replace Peter Sellers.


Or Herbert Lom.
 
2013-12-13 02:33:20 PM
Nothing to see here indeed.
 
2013-12-13 02:34:44 PM
It'll be like eating a spoonful of Drano. Sure, it'll clean you out, but it'll leave you hollow inside.
 
2013-12-13 02:34:46 PM

Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.


Dude, can I have your dealer's number? 'Cuz you seem to be scoring better shiat if you really believe that.
 
2013-12-13 02:35:44 PM

LouisZepher: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Dude, can I have your dealer's number? 'Cuz you seem to be scoring better shiat if you really believe that.


Yeah, I'm a big Steve Martin fan, but... I don't see it.
 
2013-12-13 02:36:33 PM
I would have been far happier if they had just decided to make more episodes of  Police Squad!

Six episodes of the show got made and it was one of the more underrated comedies of all-time.  There were too few  Police Squad episodes, and too many  Naked Gun movies.  Plus, I'd far rather have good TV than a bad movie.

Of course, media companies would far rather have a bad movie than good TV because people pay for bad movies, while good TV doesn't net the same kind of revenue.  So, yet again, what's best takes a back seat to what's profitable.

I hate life.
 
2013-12-13 02:36:43 PM

Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.


Done in one.
 
2013-12-13 02:37:33 PM

ThatBillmanGuy: LouisZepher: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Dude, can I have your dealer's number? 'Cuz you seem to be scoring better shiat if you really believe that.

Yeah, I'm a big Steve Martin fan, but... I don't see it.


Depends, pre-banjo Steve Martin or Post-banjo Steve Martin
 
2013-12-13 02:39:57 PM
They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...
 
2013-12-13 02:40:19 PM

JolobinSmokin: ThatBillmanGuy: LouisZepher: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Dude, can I have your dealer's number? 'Cuz you seem to be scoring better shiat if you really believe that.

Yeah, I'm a big Steve Martin fan, but... I don't see it.

Depends, pre-banjo Steve Martin or Post-banjo Steve Martin


You realize there really isn't a pre-banjo Steve Martin, right? It's kind of always been his thing.
 
2013-12-13 02:41:59 PM

CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...


Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.
 
2013-12-13 02:42:18 PM

Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.


Exactly... Helms is funny, but this isn't his role. The studios don't understand that sometimes movies just 'work', and the people involved can be a magic ingredient that can never quite be replicated.

Other movies are a product of their time, and only worked in the era they camme out in, but this one really IS all about cast.

Funny trivia: Airplane! was Leslie Neilsen's first comedic role. You'd think he'd been doing it his whole life.
 
2013-12-13 02:43:17 PM

JolobinSmokin: Depends. Pre-banjo Steve Martin or Post-banjo Steve Martin?


Umm... (sfw)

Agree completely that this is a fool's errand.
 
2013-12-13 02:44:24 PM

ThatBillmanGuy: CarnySaur: They could still do a Sledge Hammer movie...

Why haven't they?! Sounds like a better idea than this.


That I would love to see.
 
2013-12-13 02:46:27 PM
Sideline gripe:  Did you realize that the first Naked Gun film was only rated "PG-13", while Exit Through the Gift Shop is rated "R?"  what this means, is that as an art teacher in a high school, it would be OK for me to show my students the first Naked Gun film without permission slips, but to show Exit Through the Gift Shop I would need prior approval from the school principal and signed permission slips from all the parents.

Pretty farking ridiculous, right?
 
2013-12-13 02:46:38 PM

Pfighting Polish: I would have been far happier if they had just decided to make more episodes of  Police Squad!

Six episodes of the show got made and it was one of the more underrated comedies of all-time.  There were too few  Police Squad episodes, and too many  Naked Gun movies.  Plus, I'd far rather have good TV than a bad movie.

Of course, media companies would far rather have a bad movie than good TV because people pay for bad movies, while good TV doesn't net the same kind of revenue.  So, yet again, what's best takes a back seat to what's profitable.

I hate life.


I heard an interview somewhere (Police Squad DVD perhaps?) of Leslie Nielsen explaining why he thought Police Squad failed on TV. He thought it was due to all of the sight gags. You really do have to be "tuned in" to get all of the jokes. Not doing your taxes, or the laundry or cooking dinner or something. Dialed. IN.

/I'm with you, bring back Police Squad!
//not Naked Gun
///I'll probably try it. I kinda like Ed Helms
 
2013-12-13 02:46:47 PM
Finally, the watered-down, politically correct Naked Gun film is coming from my nightmares to the silver screen!
 
2013-12-13 02:47:15 PM

Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.


Babbs: The same thing with the Pink Panther movies. You just cannot replace Peter Sellers.


Pretty funny sequence of posts, right there.
 
2013-12-13 02:50:47 PM
BOOOOO!!!! Police Squad/Naked Gun/Frank Drebin died with Nielsen.
 
2013-12-13 02:51:51 PM

Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.


Ed O'Neill.  End of story.

/plays a cop well
//parallels to Nielsen starting with drama and switching to comedy
///can play the straightman and deadpan roles better than anyone else alive
 
2013-12-13 02:53:01 PM

Solid State Vittles: The problem here is that Leslie Nielsen simply cannot be replaced.  No offense to Ed Helms, but the franchise is dead in the water without him.


What he said.

Besides the fact that they've done the "parody movie" thing to death and failed miserably, Nothing that made The Naked Gun work is reproducible now. Leslie Nielsen was a dramatic actor before Airplane!. His deadpan delivery sold the comedy. It's just not going to happen.
 
2013-12-13 02:54:25 PM

SubBass49: Sideline gripe:  Did you realize that the first Naked Gun film was only rated "PG-13", while Exit Through the Gift Shop is rated "R?"  what this means, is that as an art teacher in a high school, it would be OK for me to show my students the first Naked Gun film without permission slips, but to show Exit Through the Gift Shop I would need prior approval from the school principal and signed permission slips from all the parents.

Pretty farking ridiculous, right?


Romeo and Juliet ('68 version) is a 10th grade staple around here.  It's PG and shows underage tits.  No approval required.
 
2013-12-13 02:56:31 PM

Mikey1969: Funny trivia: Airplane! was Leslie Neilsen's first comedic role. You'd think he'd been doing it his whole life.


I didn't know that. That's pretty cool; comedy is an entirely different kind of acting altogether.
 
2013-12-13 02:57:58 PM

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You guys hiring?

 
2013-12-13 02:58:29 PM

bhcompy: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.

Ed O'Neill.


Now you're talking.
 
2013-12-13 02:59:17 PM
Hmmm, like a blind man at an orgy I'm going to have to feel my way around.

/the bigger question is OJ reprising his role? Maybe Tyson could be Nordberg
//on my toes...like a midget at a urinal
 
2013-12-13 03:01:11 PM

qorkfiend: Mikey1969: Funny trivia: Airplane! was Leslie Neilsen's first comedic role. You'd think he'd been doing it his whole life.

I didn't know that. That's pretty cool; comedy is an entirely different kind of acting altogether.


Comedy is an entirely different kind of acting
 
2013-12-13 03:02:57 PM

LouisZepher: Dude, can I have your dealer's number? 'Cuz you seem to be scoring better shiat if you really believe that.


For you:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9zfxe4JVlQ   There's a lot of Drebin in this scene.

Hoboclown: Rhypskallion: Did Steve Martin die while I wasn't paying attention?   He could actually pull off a pretty good Drebin.
Babbs: The same thing with the Pink Panther movies. You just cannot replace Peter Sellers.

Pretty funny sequence of posts, right there.


This was actually the joke.   "In before Pink Panther references...."   Too subtle for FARK?   I actually think Martin would be better as Drebin than he was as Cleusau.
 
ecl
2013-12-13 03:05:42 PM
Why not Jack Black?
 
2013-12-13 03:05:52 PM

FakeMeat: I heard an interview somewhere (Police Squad DVD perhaps?) of Leslie Nielsen explaining why he thought Police Squad failed on TV. He thought it was due to all of the sight gags. You really do have to be "tuned in" to get all of the jokes. Not doing your taxes, or the laundry or cooking dinner or something. Dialed. IN.


Wiki, FWIW, says something along the same lines as to ABC's explanation of why they cancelled it.  Matt Groening of  Simpsons fame says that show would work now.  Think  Archer, too.

Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.

Many of the TV shows were drawn line-for-line from  M Squad episodes, the same way  Airplane! was drawn directly from  Zero Hour.  In the end, that seems like a great way to go.  Almost would like to see a show skewer  Law & Order or  CSI that way.
 
2013-12-13 03:06:00 PM

Smeggy Smurf: qorkfiend: Mikey1969: Funny trivia: Airplane! was Leslie Neilsen's first comedic role. You'd think he'd been doing it his whole life.

I didn't know that. That's pretty cool; comedy is an entirely different kind of acting altogether.

Comedy is an entirely different kind of acting


Comedy is an entirely different kind of acting
 
2013-12-13 03:06:17 PM

Primitive Screwhead: BOOOOO!!!! Police Squad/Naked Gun/Frank Drebin died with Nielsen. Naked Gun 33 1/3


FTFY.
 
2013-12-13 03:07:29 PM
just don't remake Forbidden Planet with Ed Helms too
 
2013-12-13 03:07:57 PM

ecl: Why not Jack Black?


They want it to remain a comedy.
 
2013-12-13 03:09:08 PM
I think Andre Braughner could pull off Frank Drebin.
 
2013-12-13 03:12:41 PM

Johnson: just don't remake Forbidden Planet with Ed Helms too


I would enjoy a Forbidden Planet remake. However I'm sure it'd be so CGI rich that it'd be unrecognizable as coming from the same source.
 
2013-12-13 03:13:15 PM
NOPE
 
2013-12-13 03:14:23 PM
It would be an entirely different kind of movie, altogether.
 
2013-12-13 03:14:41 PM
bhcompy:    Ed O'Neill

YOU!  I like you.


js34603:   Tyson could be Nordberg

I've seen worse ideas

/HEY! IT'S ENRICO PALLAZZO!
 
2013-12-13 03:16:30 PM
Jon Hamm could pull it off.
 
2013-12-13 03:18:53 PM

Pfighting Polish: FakeMeat:

Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.


Agreed
 
2013-12-13 03:19:20 PM
Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.
 
2013-12-13 03:20:15 PM
Disappointed that neither the headline nor the initial posting contained the phrase "Surely you can't be serious"

/yea, yea different movie, wanna fight about it?
 
2013-12-13 03:21:41 PM
Surely you can be serious?
 
2013-12-13 03:24:40 PM

Opiate of the Lasses: Disappointed that neither the headline nor the initial posting contained the phrase "Surely you can't be serious"

/yea, yea different movie, wanna fight about it?


That's my ringtone....

Every time my phone rings;

"Surely you can't be serious.
I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"...

On a loop.
Sometimes I wait to answer calls, just to see the weird looks I get from those around.
Funny thing is watching people under thirty that don't know where it's from.

/my lawn, get off.
 
2013-12-13 03:25:20 PM

Pfighting Polish: Also, what made the show better than the movies was that it took on a challenge that the movies really didn't:  They didn't make Drebin a bumbling fool.  Drebin is actually pretty smart in the TV show.  The bumbling cop bit made the gags too easy and predictable.  Not having that to lean on made it a much smarter show.


SO MUCH THIS.

I found the movies to be meh at best, but the TV show is one of my all-time favorites.  Instead of having Drebin fumble around with dopey looks, we got a comedy where everyone is playing it 100% straight.

I do think Ed O'Neill could maybe do it, and whoever said Andre Braugher is definitely thinking along the right lines.
 
2013-12-13 03:28:29 PM

exparrot: Honestly, the thing that killed the earlier movies for me is when Leslie Nielsen stopped being the straight man and decided he was supposed to be funny.


Yeah, the ideal role for him was the straight man in "Airplane!".  He was also funny in a more comedic role in The Naked Gun in a different capacity but then people who didn't know what they were doing just made him a clown in all the later films.

So if they want to replicate "Airplane!" (impossible), they need to cast a dramatic actor, not known for comedies.
 
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