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(Fox News)   "In 1949, when George Orwell predicted in his terrifying novel 1984 the future use of television sets to watch us in our homes, many thought he was a delusional paranoid. It turns out that he was just off by a generation"   (foxnews.com) divider line 269
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2013-12-13 09:39:52 AM
Such a great book. When the farmer, John Galt, refuses to maintain his farm anymore after Snowball and the other pigs take over...just great stuff. And then Winston hiding in that meat locker to avoid the firebombing. It's amazing how current that book is today, even though it was written so long ago.
 
2013-12-13 09:44:42 AM
So he was technically wrong.
Which is the best kind of wrong.
 
2013-12-13 09:48:01 AM
Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.
 
2013-12-13 09:51:11 AM

Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.


Maybe so, but there's no denying the encroachment upon your liberty and circumvention of restrictions designed to guarantee them. Instead of getting angry at the government, more people got angry at Snowden. 

Baffling.
 
2013-12-13 09:54:57 AM

Slaxl: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

Maybe so, but there's no denying the encroachment upon your liberty and circumvention of restrictions designed to guarantee them. Instead of getting angry at the government, more people got angry at Snowden. 

Baffling.


No question.  I'm just saying put this one guy's opinions on the subject in context.  I think we're all wise enough to know it's a crock of shiat, and that Congress has failed in their oversight role in this area.  Why?  They really don't have a problem with it either.

Some representation.
 
2013-12-13 09:57:08 AM

Pocket Ninja: Such a great book. When the farmer, John Galt, refuses to maintain his farm anymore after Snowball and the other pigs take over...just great stuff. And then Winston hiding in that meat locker to avoid the firebombing. It's amazing how current that book is today, even though it was written so long ago.


Plus now I know at what temperature paper burns. Great book.
 
2013-12-13 10:03:01 AM

Diogenes: Slaxl: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

Maybe so, but there's no denying the encroachment upon your liberty and circumvention of restrictions designed to guarantee them. Instead of getting angry at the government, more people got angry at Snowden. 

Baffling.

No question.  I'm just saying put this one guy's opinions on the subject in context.  I think we're all wise enough to know it's a crock of shiat, and that Congress has failed in their oversight role in this area.  Why?  They really don't have a problem with it either.

Some representation.


As I drove into work today the BBC was talking about Newtown, and it just made me really mad. The public has such a short attention span, they forget all about how the gun lobby ripped apart good legislation supporting universal background checks because MONEY, and obviously nothing was done about mental health either. 25 dead kids, man. Little 6 year olds. Makes me so pissed off.

And I watch everyday as my local Democratic party is supporting Kay Hagan who voted for the NDAA and is just as bad as the rest of those clowns in DC.

It's a disgusting mess. People act like this new budget deal is any good, it's f*cking sh*t. It's garbage, total garbage. Yeah your Congresspeople are finally working together, right? Because there are elections next year and those pussies are afraid of being voted out.

Vote all these clowns out of office.
 
2013-12-13 10:06:54 AM

Diogenes: Slaxl: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

Maybe so, but there's no denying the encroachment upon your liberty and circumvention of restrictions designed to guarantee them. Instead of getting angry at the government, more people got angry at Snowden.
Baffling.

No question.  I'm just saying put this one guy's opinions on the subject in context.  I think we're all wise enough to know it's a crock of shiat, and that Congress has failed in their oversight role in this area.  Why?  They really don't have a problem with it either.

Some representation.


It's not just Congress. We do it to each other. There are cameras everywhere. We all carry one. Look at how much stuff ends up on YouTube.
 
2013-12-13 10:08:26 AM

Nabb1: Diogenes: Slaxl: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

Maybe so, but there's no denying the encroachment upon your liberty and circumvention of restrictions designed to guarantee them. Instead of getting angry at the government, more people got angry at Snowden.
Baffling.

No question.  I'm just saying put this one guy's opinions on the subject in context.  I think we're all wise enough to know it's a crock of shiat, and that Congress has failed in their oversight role in this area.  Why?  They really don't have a problem with it either.

Some representation.

It's not just Congress. We do it to each other. There are cameras everywhere. We all carry one. Look at how much stuff ends up on YouTube.


Yeah, at minimum we're feeding the beast.
 
2013-12-13 10:39:18 AM
www.republibot.com

"It's an off switch. She'll get years for that..."
 
2013-12-13 10:41:58 AM
Be seeing you...
criminalbrief.com
 
2013-12-13 10:46:27 AM
Yes, you're so interesting that the entire government is watching you specifically.
 
2013-12-13 10:47:35 AM
I thought it was 1948.

And it's impressive that he knew it would be a brother.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-12-13 10:48:21 AM
bdub77:

As I drove into work today the BBC was talking about Newtown, and it just made me really mad. The public has such a short attention span, they forget all about how the gun lobby ripped apart good legislation supporting universal background checks because MONEY, and obviously nothing was done about mental health either. 25 dead kids, man. Little 6 year olds. Makes me so pissed off.

And I watch everyday as my local Democratic party is supporting Kay Hagan who voted for the NDAA and is just as bad as the rest of those clowns in DC.

It's a disgusting mess. People act like this new budget deal is any good, it's f*cking sh*t. It's garbage, total garbage. Yeah your Congresspeople are finally working together, right? Because there are elections next year and those pussies are afraid of being voted out.


People with power make the laws and money is power.  All you can do is push for the lesser of evils.
 
2013-12-13 10:48:37 AM
the future use of television sets to watch us in our homes

Read the article to hear about the evil of the XBox One Kinect, left disappointed.  What does a cell phone tower interceptor have to do with a TV that watches you?
 
2013-12-13 10:49:01 AM
Congress could fix this if they were so busy doing nothing and dissing the other side.
 
2013-12-13 10:49:27 AM

Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.


And his ice cream sucks. That strawberry is just a waste of 1/3 of the tub.
 
2013-12-13 10:49:38 AM
Right wing authoritarians outraged at right-wing-authoritarianism.  Yeah, I believe that.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-12-13 10:49:57 AM

Sock Ruh Tease: Yes, you're so interesting that the entire government is watching you specifically.


That's why no one cares.  It's nothing compared to what internet providers and advertisers do.

If you don't like people gathering information about you, become Amish.
 
2013-12-13 10:49:57 AM

Sock Ruh Tease: Yes, you're so interesting that the entire government is watching you specifically.


If you're not doing anything, you have nothing to fear, Citizen. Please continue to consume.
 
2013-12-13 10:50:37 AM
It is egregious how much the government is spying on its citizens, encroaching on our liberties, and disregarding our right to privacy.

Now, if you'll excuse me, poop is coming out.
 
2013-12-13 10:50:48 AM
Obama is near?
 
2013-12-13 10:50:50 AM

Carn: Right wing authoritarians outraged at right-wing-authoritarianism.  Yeah, I believe that.


So, you think only the right wing is capable of authoritarianism? You're properly conditioned, I see.
 
2013-12-13 10:51:00 AM
FTFA: "The object of the conspiracy is to emasculate all Americans and many foreigners of their right to privacy . . ."
 
2013-12-13 10:51:24 AM

bdub77: Plus now I know at what temperature paper burns. Great book.


That's easy; they burn at the temperature of matches.
 
2013-12-13 10:52:19 AM

Pocket Ninja: Such a great book. When the farmer, John Galt, refuses to maintain his farm anymore after Snowball and the other pigs take over...just great stuff. And then Winston hiding in that meat locker to avoid the firebombing. It's amazing how current that book is today, even though it was written so long ago.


Oceania has always been at war with East Brooklyn.
 
2013-12-13 10:52:24 AM
www.use-enco.com
 
2013-12-13 10:52:48 AM
While I agree with the content, it reads like an 8th grade esssy. Must be for the Fox 'readers.'
 
2013-12-13 10:52:48 AM

StRalphTheLiar: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

And his ice cream sucks. That strawberry is just a waste of 1/3 of the tub.


STRAWBERRY IS DELICIOUS!!!
 
2013-12-13 10:53:12 AM

Pocket Ninja: Such a great book. When the farmer, John Galt, refuses to maintain his farm anymore after Snowball and the other pigs take over...just great stuff. And then Winston hiding in that meat locker to avoid the firebombing. It's amazing how current that book is today, even though it was written so long ago.


Yeah, but I still don't get what the deal with Lenny and rabbits was.
 
2013-12-13 10:54:07 AM

Pocket Ninja: Such a great book. When the farmer, John Galt, refuses to maintain his farm anymore after Snowball and the other pigs take over...just great stuff. And then Winston hiding in that meat locker to avoid the firebombing. It's amazing how current that book is today, even though it was written so long ago.


Yes! I learned at what temperature pigs burn.
 
2013-12-13 10:54:12 AM

Nabb1: Carn: Right wing authoritarians outraged at right-wing-authoritarianism.  Yeah, I believe that.

So, you think only the right wing is capable of authoritarianism? You're properly conditioned, I see.


No.  The term right on the left/right authoritarian scale is not the same as the conventional left/right liberal/conservative scale that you are thinking of.  However, it is true that right-wing authoritarians tend to be right on that scale as well.  A very good read on the subject:  The Authoritarians
 
2013-12-13 10:54:31 AM

Slaxl: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

Maybe so, but there's no denying the encroachment upon your liberty and circumvention of restrictions designed to guarantee them. Instead of getting angry at the government, more people got angry at Snowden. 

Baffling.


There's a long, proud tradition of shooting the messenger.

Besides, getting mad at the government is impotent rage. We voted Obama in and he made things worse, but would Romney or McCain have been any better? The only way to realistically fight for privacy is with technical means - stronger encryption, more auditing of open source code (to find nsa backdoors), etc.
 
2013-12-13 10:54:59 AM

Sock Ruh Tease: Yes, you're so interesting that the entire government is watching you specifically.


Maybe not the whole government, but it only takes one low level bureaucrat to make your life difficult if they have a reason.  Read up on guys who put their ex's on watch lists, instances of "LOVEINT", etc.  That's just the stuff that's been identified and reported.

Local bullies could only dream of the power some desk jockey in the distant capital can wield over your finances, ability to travel, and soon - your medical data.  And no, often there are little or no controls in place over who has access to this information.
 
2013-12-13 10:55:32 AM

Sock Ruh Tease: Yes, you're so interesting that the entire government is watching you specifically.


Not the entire government, perhaps, but there have been instances of government agents abusing their surveillance abilities for private purposes.
 
2013-12-13 10:55:42 AM
Welcome to technology.  What's a horrifying and terrifying concept for one generation is perfectly acceptable for the next.  Our grandparents worried that telephones would be the death of communication.  Our parents worried about....well, let's be honest, they were too stoned at woodstock to care about much....
 
2013-12-13 10:57:37 AM
Even Dallas fans aren't this obvious in fellating their heroes. And they have better reason to.
 
2013-12-13 10:57:47 AM

bdub77: they forget all about how the gun lobby ripped apart good legislation supporting universal background checks because MONEY,


Wrong
 
2013-12-13 10:57:55 AM

Nabb1: Sock Ruh Tease: Yes, you're so interesting that the entire government is watching you specifically.

If you're not doing anything, you have nothing to fear, Citizen. Please continue to consume.


I'm not denying that the government collects information about people but let's be serious. The government has limited resources. The sheer logistics of storing and reviewing all of this information are so complicated as to be impossible. So for practical reasons they would have to prioritize who they are spying on. Does that make it better? Obviously not, but characterizing what the government is doing as a massive invasion of everyone's privacy is so ridiculous that the person making that characterization becomes less credible, and therefore is less likely to get positive attention.

If people actually took a few seconds to think about what they oppose instead of exaggerating things, it would fix almost all of the problems in government that people perceive as extremism.
 
2013-12-13 10:58:41 AM
"1984? Yeah right, man. That's a typo. Orwell is here now. He's livin' large. "

-Cereal Killer
 
2013-12-13 10:59:14 AM

satanorsanta: StRalphTheLiar: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

And his ice cream sucks. That strawberry is just a waste of 1/3 of the tub.

STRAWBERRY IS DELICIOUS!!!


Begun, the Ice Cream Wars have.  This book is just nailing it on so many levels.
 
2013-12-13 10:59:20 AM
If, in the 70's, I predicted we'd live in a police state where everyone had electronic tracking devices that could listen in on any of our conversation I would have been a conspiracy theorist. If I'd said we'd be clamoring for the devices and paying for the privilege I would have been thrown in the loony bin.
 
GBB
2013-12-13 10:59:47 AM

satanorsanta: StRalphTheLiar: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

And his ice cream sucks. That strawberry is just a waste of 1/3 of the tub.

STRAWBERRY IS DELICIOUS!!!


media.tumblr.com
There's always one.
 
2013-12-13 11:00:12 AM

StRalphTheLiar: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

And his ice cream sucks.

That strawberry is just a waste of 1/3 of the tub.

You shut your whore mouth.
 
2013-12-13 11:00:24 AM

Chthonic Echoes: FTFA: "The object of the conspiracy is to emasculate all Americans and many foreigners of their right to privacy . . ."


Emasculate:

1. To make (a man) feel less masculine : to deprive (a man) of his male strength, role, etc.
2. To make (something) weaker or less effective
 
2013-12-13 11:00:54 AM

Slaxl: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

Maybe so, but there's no denying the encroachment upon your liberty and circumvention of restrictions designed to guarantee them. Instead of getting angry at the government, more people got angry at Snowden. 

Baffling.


NSA spying to room number 101 is a bridge to far.
 
2013-12-13 11:00:58 AM
I Soviet America, TV watches you!
 
2013-12-13 11:01:09 AM

Diogenes: Slaxl: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

Maybe so, but there's no denying the encroachment upon your liberty and circumvention of restrictions designed to guarantee them. Instead of getting angry at the government, more people got angry at Snowden. 

Baffling.

No question.  I'm just saying put this one guy's opinions on the subject in context.  I think we're all wise enough to know it's a crock of shiat, and that Congress has failed in their oversight role in this area.  Why?  They really don't have a problem with it either.

Some representation.


You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship
 
2013-12-13 11:01:55 AM
blog.patrickrothfuss.com
Read this book, another prediction of the future.
 
2013-12-13 11:03:16 AM

Diogenes: Slaxl: Diogenes: Napolitano's a Truther.  So consider the source.

Maybe so, but there's no denying the encroachment upon your liberty and circumvention of restrictions designed to guarantee them. Instead of getting angry at the government, more people got angry at Snowden. 

Baffling.

No question.  I'm just saying put this one guy's opinions on the subject in context.  I think we're all wise enough to know it's a crock of shiat, and that Congress has failed in their oversight role in this area.  Why?  They really don't have a problem with it either.

Some representation.


The government acts this way for two reasons that I can see:

1) More people would be angry if another 9/11 happened than would be angry about unconstitutional surveillance. If another attack happened, they wouldn't want to say 'We stopped at that red line because of the constitution, and because it was the right thing to do.' Now, if another attack happens, they can legitimately say that no effort was spared.

2) They just like having more power. It feels good. It's a rare person who can pass up an opportunity for control because it's morally right.
 
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