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2013-12-13 09:22:07 AM  
WTF is Crackle?

It showed up on my AppleTV last night.
 
2013-12-13 09:27:37 AM  
Me last night:

"Hey, I have an ABC app now, I wonder if Agents of Shield is on there?"
"Hey, it is! This is great, I can start watching this show at my convenience!"
"WTF? It starts with Episode 5? WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS ABC???"

Seriously ABC, why would you do this? I'm being punished for having the gall to not watch your show from the beginning?
 
2013-12-13 09:29:02 AM  
I live in Canada. My Apple TV already has nothing.
 
2013-12-13 09:39:41 AM  

Broktun: WTF is Crackle?

It showed up on my AppleTV last night.


It's kinda like a poor man's Hulu/Netflix. it carries movies and old TV shows, but the selection isn't spectacular. Example: I watched All In The Family, but only the first 2 seasons, because that's all they carried.
 
2013-12-13 09:40:37 AM  

jayhawk88: Me last night:

"Hey, I have an ABC app now, I wonder if Agents of Shield is on there?"
"Hey, it is! This is great, I can start watching this show at my convenience!"
"WTF? It starts with Episode 5? WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS ABC???"

Seriously ABC, why would you do this? I'm being punished for having the gall to not watch your show from the beginning?


Despite a lot of vertical integration, the production and distribution arms of the network still generally work separately.  ABC would probably love to have all of those episodes available On Demand.  But ABC Studios has probably already sold the show to Netflix and they won't want people to catch up on ABC's app, but on Netflix next summer.

In general, when posed with a question asking "Why would X TV company do this," they most common response is, "because somebody else is paying them to."
 
2013-12-13 09:40:48 AM  
WTF is Apple TV?
 
2013-12-13 09:41:00 AM  
Finally,
There is still one hour a day when I can't watch Seinfeld.
 
2013-12-13 09:48:53 AM  

jayhawk88: Me last night:

"Hey, I have an ABC app now, I wonder if Agents of Shield is on there?"
"Hey, it is! This is great, I can start watching this show at my convenience!"
"WTF? It starts with Episode 5? WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS ABC???"

Seriously ABC, why would you do this? I'm being punished for having the gall to not watch your show from the beginning?


You're not missing anything.
 
2013-12-13 09:49:12 AM  

jayhawk88: ould you do this? I'm being punished for having the gall to not watch your show


Just spring for Hulu Plus big man
 
2013-12-13 09:59:00 AM  

SmellsLikePoo: jayhawk88: ould you do this? I'm being punished for having the gall to not watch your show

Just spring for Hulu Plus big man


I had it for a while shortly after dropping cable, but Hulu Plus seems to do the same thing, at least with shows currently in broadcast. Maybe it's changed now, but I specifically remember this being a reason why I dropped it..I still had to make it a point to get something watching within a couple weeks or it was gone.
 
2013-12-13 10:00:41 AM  

jayhawk88: SmellsLikePoo: jayhawk88: ould you do this? I'm being punished for having the gall to not watch your show

Just spring for Hulu Plus big man

I had it for a while shortly after dropping cable, but Hulu Plus seems to do the same thing, at least with shows currently in broadcast. Maybe it's changed now, but I specifically remember this being a reason why I dropped it..I still had to make it a point to get something watching within a couple weeks or it was gone.


For SHIELD, at least, it's no different.
 
2013-12-13 10:03:21 AM  

Mikey1969: Broktun: WTF is Crackle?
It showed up on my AppleTV last night.
It's kinda like a poor man's Hulu/Netflix. it carries movies and old TV shows, but the selection isn't spectacular. Example: I watched All In The Family, but only the first 2 seasons, because that's all they carried.


Apple TV is just now getting it? Crackle has been on my crappy Sony media player for years now.

It had a decent selection of the 90s-00s Godzilla movies for awhile - not sure if it still does. They were fun to throw on in the background while I was working on hobby stuff.
 
2013-12-13 10:06:17 AM  

Broktun: WTF is Crackle?

It showed up on my AppleTV last night.


the Night of the Living Dead remake (the good one) is on Crackle.

Crackle is ok, but the commercial time-outs suck.
 
2013-12-13 10:11:24 AM  

rugman11: jayhawk88: SmellsLikePoo: jayhawk88: ould you do this? I'm being punished for having the gall to not watch your show

Just spring for Hulu Plus big man

I had it for a while shortly after dropping cable, but Hulu Plus seems to do the same thing, at least with shows currently in broadcast. Maybe it's changed now, but I specifically remember this being a reason why I dropped it..I still had to make it a point to get something watching within a couple weeks or it was gone.

For SHIELD, at least, it's no different.


jayhawk88: SmellsLikePoo: jayhawk88: ould you do this? I'm being punished for having the gall to not watch your show

Just spring for Hulu Plus big man

I had it for a while shortly after dropping cable, but Hulu Plus seems to do the same thing, at least with shows currently in broadcast. Maybe it's changed now, but I specifically remember this being a reason why I dropped it..I still had to make it a point to get something watching within a couple weeks or it was gone.


admittedly I watched the first few episodes of Shield, but haven't been keeping up so I'm not aware what is up on Hulu...  I agree, they suck on some of the distribution, and until they start doing a better job I'll still rely on torrenting
 
2013-12-13 10:18:39 AM  

clkeagle: Mikey1969: Broktun: WTF is Crackle?
It showed up on my AppleTV last night.
It's kinda like a poor man's Hulu/Netflix. it carries movies and old TV shows, but the selection isn't spectacular. Example: I watched All In The Family, but only the first 2 seasons, because that's all they carried.

Apple TV is just now getting it? Crackle has been on my crappy Sony media player for years now.

It had a decent selection of the 90s-00s Godzilla movies for awhile - not sure if it still does. They were fun to throw on in the background while I was working on hobby stuff.


I wasn't impressed with AppleTV when I checked it out a year ago. Having to stream to it from a device, and not having something as simple as a web interface ruined it for me. I want to get something different, might do Chromecast, since I already have an Android device to control it, but really being able to enter an IP into a browser on the network for configuration seems like such a simple concept.
 
2013-12-13 10:20:22 AM  

Broktun: WTF is Crackle?

It showed up on my AppleTV last night.



iirc, Crackle shows Sony-owned movies and shows (which is why it is offered on the PS3).
 
2013-12-13 10:28:14 AM  

SmellsLikePoo: admittedly I watched the first few episodes of Shield, but haven't been keeping up so I'm not aware what is up on Hulu...  I agree, they suck on some of the distribution, and until they start doing a better job I'll still rely on torrenting


It's just that the networks whole philosophy here seems to be kind of a begrudging, "OK, FINE!" mentality. Tangent: Last year I bought a '12 Honda Odyssey, which had a USB port for plugging in your iPod/smartphone. As it should, of course, in the year Two Thousand and Freaking Twelve, where iPods have been in existance for over 10 years.

But they put the damn thing in the glove compartment. Not, like, right below the radio...not in the slot above the radio that is like custom-designed to hold a smartphone-sized device...not even near the center console so you could put in there. No, they just stick in the glove compartment, because, you know, you're going to open the glove compartment every time, reach over and plug in the cord, put your smartphone in the too-small slot they have in there, try to cram the excess cord in there somewhere as well, close the compartment, and then drive 5 minutes to Target.

You can just see the thinking here. The designers got the mandate from on high: we need a USB port. They all groused about it for a couple days - "We just got the satellite radio in these things...NOW THIS?" - tossed around some ideas, and one of them said, "Fark it, just put it in the glove box, now let's move on and talk about how many cigarette lighters directly on the front console we need. People still use those for chargers right?" Everyone involved in making those kinds of decisions are 3-4 years behind the curve, just like everyone at ABC is now.

You can almost hear the meeting...

"OK, people are watching TV online in record numbers..we have 100k requests from the website this week alone to make our shows available online...it's actually easier for us to make people watching online to see ads than it is to try and keep people with DVR's from skipping commercials...instead of having to rely on Nielsen Ratings, we can break down, to the exact number, how many people viewed a particular show in a given time frame.....How can we use all this technology and natural, grass-roots excitement for consuming our product to trick people into watching more broadcast TV?"
 
2013-12-13 10:29:06 AM  

rugman11: jayhawk88: Me last night:

"Hey, I have an ABC app now, I wonder if Agents of Shield is on there?"
"Hey, it is! This is great, I can start watching this show at my convenience!"
"WTF? It starts with Episode 5? WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS ABC???"

Seriously ABC, why would you do this? I'm being punished for having the gall to not watch your show from the beginning?

Despite a lot of vertical integration, the production and distribution arms of the network still generally work separately.  ABC would probably love to have all of those episodes available On Demand.  But ABC Studios has probably already sold the show to Netflix and they won't want people to catch up on ABC's app, but on Netflix next summer.

In general, when posed with a question asking "Why would X TV company do this," they most common response is, "because somebody else is paying them to."



I refuse to join into the AppleTV/Roku systems, or get Hulu/Netflix/Prime, as right now, there are too many backroom deals to divide up content across each platform, and no one company could ever have a fully stocked catalog. Its insane.

Betamax/VHS. Blu-Ray/HDDVD.

Do they really think they can take down cable/satellite/fiber by basically going into what amounts to a format war?
 
2013-12-13 10:39:50 AM  
Cool.  My Roku has had it for 2 years.
 
2013-12-13 10:43:33 AM  
I refuse to join into the AppleTV/Roku systems, or get Hulu/Netflix/Prime, as right now, there are too many backroom deals to divide up content across each platform, and no one company could ever have a fully stocked catalog. Its insane.

Betamax/VHS. Blu-Ray/HDDVD.

Do they really think they can take down cable/satellite/fiber by basically going into what amounts to a format war?


And Xbox is planning on developing original programs, too. If those are successful, it will be a cold day in Hell before you see them on Chromecast or Apple TV.
 
2013-12-13 10:46:17 AM  

FarkedOver: Cool.  My Roku has had it for 2 years.


Next thing is adding Chromecast compatibility to their app. Given Crackle is Sony, it may take a while.
 
2013-12-13 10:49:24 AM  

jayhawk88: It's just that the networks whole philosophy here seems to be kind of a begrudging, "OK, FINE!" mentality. Tangent: Last year I bought a '12 Honda Odyssey, which had a USB port for plugging in your iPod/smartphone. As it should, of course, in the year Two Thousand and Freaking Twelve, where iPods have been in existance for over 10 years.

But they put the damn thing in the glove compartment. Not, like, right below the radio...not in the slot above the radio that is like custom-designed to hold a smartphone-sized device...not even near the center console so you could put in there. No, they just stick in the glove compartment, because, you know, you're going to open the glove compartment every time, reach over and plug in the cord, put your smartphone in the too-small slot they have in there, try to cram the excess cord in there somewhere as well, close the compartment, and then drive 5 minutes to Target.


I have a 2013 Odyssey with the same thing. I just got a 32GB USB stick, filled it with songs, and plugged it in. Voila, I have weeks of music available to me in my car. Easy-peasy.
 
2013-12-13 10:50:39 AM  

jayhawk88: SmellsLikePoo: admittedly I watched the first few episodes of Shield, but haven't been keeping up so I'm not aware what is up on Hulu...  I agree, they suck on some of the distribution, and until they start doing a better job I'll still rely on torrenting

It's just that the networks whole philosophy here seems to be kind of a begrudging, "OK, FINE!" mentality. Tangent: Last year I bought a '12 Honda Odyssey, which had a USB port for plugging in your iPod/smartphone. As it should, of course, in the year Two Thousand and Freaking Twelve, where iPods have been in existance for over 10 years.

But they put the damn thing in the glove compartment.


It's not just Honda. I recently rented a Yaris and it was in the same spot. I thought it was pretty ridiculous too.
 
2013-12-13 11:33:05 AM  
This entire format wars thing is so gay.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2013-12-13 11:38:19 AM  
AppleTV is still around?  TIL.
 
2013-12-13 11:42:33 AM  

jayhawk88


But they put the damn thing in the glove compartment. Not, like, right below the radio...not in the slot above the radio that is like custom-designed to hold a smartphone-sized device...not even near the center console so you could put in there. No, they just stick in the glove compartment, because, you know, you're going to open the glove compartment every time, reach over and plug in the cord, put your smartphone in the too-small slot they have in there, try to cram the excess cord in there somewhere as well, close the compartment, and then drive 5 minutes to Target.


If you cannot tolerate a five-minute drive without consuming a specific piece of media, perhaps you're the problem.
 
2013-12-13 12:01:13 PM  
Bad enough iTunes pollutes our computers, people want a device that puts that crap on TVs.

/fark Apple
//stick with Media Tanks (Popcorn Hour, Dune, Mede8ter), HTPC, or PS3
 
2013-12-13 12:05:21 PM  

peterthx: Bad enough iTunes pollutes our computers, people want a device that puts that crap on TVs.

/fark Apple
//stick with Media Tanks (Popcorn Hour, Dune, Mede8ter), HTPC, or PS3


Take a deep breath. It's just a $99 content delivery device.
 
2013-12-13 12:14:33 PM  
Abe Vigoda's Ghost:
Take a deep breath. It's just a $99 content delivery device.

No, it's one of their continuing attempts to monopolize entertainment.
 
2013-12-13 12:21:51 PM  
FTFY

jayhawk88: SmellsLikePoo: 

You can almost hear the meeting...

"OK, people are watching TV online in record numbers..we have 100k requests from the website this week alone to make our shows available online...it's actually easier for us to make people watching online to see ads than it is to try and keep people with DVR's from skipping commercials...instead of having to rely on Nielsen Ratings, we can break down, to the exact number, how many people viewed a particular show in a given time frame.....How can we use all this technology and natural, grass-roots excitement for consuming our product to trick people into watching more broadcast TV advertising?"

 
2013-12-13 12:29:23 PM  
The moment that I noticed Crackle had appeared on my AppleTV, I excitedly opened the application and searched feverishly for Seinfeld. After scrolling through all the content, and not finding it, I concluded that, in my excited haste, I must have overlooked it. I looked again. And again. No Seinfeld. Maybe Crackle removed Seinfeld from their content listing. I pulled out my iPhone, opened up Crackle, and there was Seinfeld. So why no Seinfeld on the AppleTV? Why? WHY?

My understanding is that there is a different content lineup on Crackle, depending on the device accessing the application. And Seinfeld is not yet available on the AppleTV.

Or am I completely wrong, and missing out on The Contest right at this very moment?
 
2013-12-13 12:39:59 PM  

jayhawk88: It's just that the networks whole philosophy here seems to be kind of a begrudging, "OK, FINE!" mentality. Tangent: Last year I bought a '12 Honda Odyssey, which had a USB port for plugging in your iPod/smartphone. As it should, of course, in the year Two Thousand and Freaking Twelve, where iPods have been in existance for over 10 years.

But they put the damn thing in the glove compartment. Not, like, right below the radio...not in the slot above the radio that is like custom-designed to hold a smartphone-sized device...not even near the center console so you could put in there. No, they just stick in the glove compartment, because, you know, you're going to open the glove compartment every time, reach over and plug in the cord, put your smartphone in the too-small slot they have in there, try to cram the excess cord in there somewhere as well, close the compartment, and then drive 5 minutes to Target.


I have an Alpine bluetooth CD/radio unit in my 12 year old Renault. Get in the car. Start ignition, CD unit pairs with Android phone in my pocket, carries on playing Amazon MP3/Doggcaster/whatever on phone. At the end of the journey, turn off car, get out with phone still in pocket.

Oh, and it does track changing via the head unit. I also get hands-free calling with my phone and the unit synchronises the address book with my phone. Total cost, around £150.

It is frankly, fricking awesome, and I would never want to go back to USB wired connections.
 
2013-12-13 01:00:44 PM  
Apple finally gets Crackle and this is News?  Crackle has been around forever and the web and Crackle has been on Roku since 2011.

But another case of Apple getting something everyone else has had for years, but it bam because a press release like it is the second coming.
 
2013-12-13 01:05:21 PM  

theflatline: Apple finally gets Crackle and this is News?  Crackle has been around forever and the web and Crackle has been on Roku since 2011.

But another case of Apple getting something everyone else has had for years, but it bam because a press release like it is the second coming.


Met someone just the other day and thought "the cloud" didn't exist until iCloud.
 
2013-12-13 01:43:52 PM  

peterthx: Abe Vigoda's Ghost:
Take a deep breath. It's just a $99 content delivery device.

No, it's one of their continuing attempts to monopolize entertainment.


Yep. monopolizing entertainment by providing non-exclusive access to otherwise available content provided by other companies. Total monopoly!
 
2013-12-13 01:45:25 PM  

theflatline: Apple finally gets Crackle and this is News?  Crackle has been around forever and the web and Crackle has been on Roku since 2011.

But another case of Apple getting something everyone else has had for years, but it bam because a press release like it is the second coming.


You know, tomorrow's weather forecast is also news. It doesn't mean that tomorrow's weather is something that has never happened before.
 
2013-12-13 01:52:01 PM  

FarkedOver: Cool.  My Roku has had it for 2 years.


Yep, but since Apple...OMG NEWZ!!
 
2013-12-13 02:00:04 PM  

Broktun: WTF is Crackle?

It showed up on my AppleTV last night.


it's owned by Sony so it shows old Sony pictures movies for free but they rotate their schedule and have commercials the quality is good, but the selection stinks but hey it's free, I don't have cable, and you could always get it on any computer but hey Apple TV
 
2013-12-13 02:02:59 PM  
GameSprocket:
Yep. monopolizing entertainment by providing non-exclusive access to otherwise available content provided by other companies. Total monopoly!

I'm guessing you've never seen the term "iTunes exclusive" before

Or their little eBook pricing scandal.
 
2013-12-13 02:26:51 PM  

peterthx: GameSprocket:
Yep. monopolizing entertainment by providing non-exclusive access to otherwise available content provided by other companies. Total monopoly!

I'm guessing you've never seen the term "iTunes exclusive" before

Or their little eBook pricing scandal.


Not that it has anything to do with this topic, but it is acceptable for a company to work out an exclusive deal, look at Led Zeppelin's deal with Spotify.

Also, the "eBook pricing scandal" was Apple telling the publishers that they could charge whatever they wanted and Apple would just take a percentage. Oh noes! It is almost like Apple was trying to just act like a distributor of ebooks. We wouldn't want to have a monopoly for e-books *cough*Amazon*cough*.

I get that you want to be outraged about something, but you are probably going to have to look a bit harder.
 
2013-12-13 02:28:13 PM  
Really...?

Nobody...?

Okay...
i.imgur.com

/had to be done
 
2013-12-13 02:31:19 PM  

GameSprocket: Also, the "eBook pricing scandal" was Apple telling the publishers that they could charge whatever they wanted and Apple would just take a percentage. Oh noes! It is almost like Apple was trying to just act like a distributor of ebooks. We wouldn't want to have a monopoly for e-books *cough*Amazon*cough*.


Bullshiat. It was about them dictating what could and could not be charged, especially when getting ready to launch "iBooks".

/such innovation, take a product name and put an "i" in front of it
 
2013-12-13 02:34:24 PM  

GameSprocket: peterthx: GameSprocket:
Yep. monopolizing entertainment by providing non-exclusive access to otherwise available content provided by other companies. Total monopoly!

I'm guessing you've never seen the term "iTunes exclusive" before

Or their little eBook pricing scandal.

Not that it has anything to do with this topic, but it is acceptable for a company to work out an exclusive deal, look at Led Zeppelin's deal with Spotify.

Also, the "eBook pricing scandal" was Apple telling the publishers that they could charge whatever they wanted and Apple would just take a percentage. Oh noes! It is almost like Apple was trying to just act like a distributor of ebooks. We wouldn't want to have a monopoly for e-books *cough*Amazon*cough*.

I get that you want to be outraged about something, but you are probably going to have to look a bit harder.



The Apple scandal was a matter of price-fixing, in which Apple and the book publishers conspired to fix the price of eBooks so that the the evil Amazon corporation couldn't sell them for less than the publishers wanted them to.  And in case you didn't know, price-fixing is a federal crime.
 
2013-12-13 02:37:06 PM  
Hmm.  I have a first generation AppleTV, so it's probably too old for that.  But it does have a built-in 150 gig hard drive, so it can work without my iMac present or on.  Getting low on space, though.
 
2013-12-13 03:33:53 PM  

Alphax: Hmm.  I have a first generation AppleTV, so it's probably too old for that.  But it does have a built-in 150 gig hard drive, so it can work without my iMac present or on.  Getting low on space, though.


I have one, you can hack it to support an external hd.
 
2013-12-13 03:49:44 PM  

peterthx: GameSprocket: Also, the "eBook pricing scandal" was Apple telling the publishers that they could charge whatever they wanted and Apple would just take a percentage. Oh noes! It is almost like Apple was trying to just act like a distributor of ebooks. We wouldn't want to have a monopoly for e-books *cough*Amazon*cough*.

Bullshiat. It was about them dictating what could and could not be charged, especially when getting ready to launch "iBooks".

/such innovation, take a product name and put an "i" in front of it


Apple has never, ever been accused of telling someone how much they had to sell a book for. The publishers colluded to fix their prices and Apple went along with it.
 
2013-12-13 03:56:09 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: peterthx: Bad enough iTunes pollutes our computers, people want a device that puts that crap on TVs.

/fark Apple
//stick with Media Tanks (Popcorn Hour, Dune, Mede8ter), HTPC, or PS3

Take a deep breath. It's just a $99 content delivery device.


ooooooh, GOLLY!

You mean that if I send Apple money I will be able to watch EXACTLY THE SAME CRAP I CAN ALREADY SEE IN ABOUT A HUNDRED DIFFERENT PLACES?


Apple fanbois are pathetic..
 
2013-12-13 04:11:07 PM  

ryarger: Apple has never, ever been accused of telling someone how much they had to sell a book for. The publishers colluded to fix their prices and Apple went along with it.


unrealitymag.bcmediagroup.netdna-cdn.com

Yeahhh. They were totally innocent. Not their fault at all.

/didn't know the Apple reality distortion field now bends the law
 
2013-12-13 04:48:11 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: WTF is Apple TV?


Its the more expensive version of Roku.  Or it is something you could buy in addition to your XBox or Playstation that doesn't do as much as either one, including games, Netflix, Hulu, Crackle, Amazon Instant etc. (you do have to pay fees to Sony and Xbox for their respective gaming networks, but you get free games every month and other perks, so its not so bad.  If you are cheap, get a Roku.   If you are a gamer,  you already have PS3/4 or Xbox 360/One, stick with that.  If you have more dollars than sense, get an AppleTV)
 
2013-12-13 05:05:10 PM  

John the Magnificent: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: peterthx: Bad enough iTunes pollutes our computers, people want a device that puts that crap on TVs.

/fark Apple
//stick with Media Tanks (Popcorn Hour, Dune, Mede8ter), HTPC, or PS3

Take a deep breath. It's just a $99 content delivery device.

ooooooh, GOLLY!

You mean that if I send Apple money I will be able to watch EXACTLY THE SAME CRAP I CAN ALREADY SEE IN ABOUT A HUNDRED DIFFERENT PLACES?


Apple fanbois are pathetic..


Not as pathetic as people who have been brainwashed into blindly hating everything Apple does.

You mean that if I send Apple money I will be able to watch EXACTLY THE SAME CRAP I CAN ALREADY SEE IN ABOUT A HUNDRED DIFFERENT PLACES?

You could say the same thing about Roku or Amazon or any other similar service. But you're frothing at the mouth because Apple does something that everybody else does too?

Get a grip, junior.
 
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