Benevolent Misanthrope: It's not post-pregnancy fitness selfies that are causing the rage, you idiots. It's the post-pregnancy fitness selfies accompanied by a caption on the order of, "Look at me!!! If you aren't predisposed to lose weight quickly and look like me, you're a fat, lazy cow and I WIN ALL THE THINGS!!!!"
Peki: Frederick: Who do you think is most often placing value on a woman's sex appeal -men or women? In this example the woman clearly has attributed her value to her sex appeal.Chicken and egg question. They perpetuate it equally, and I don't really care who started it.
Peki: My fiance and I had a small row over this. Normally, I'm good about clicking pics from Fark or other places for him to *ahem* peruse later. This one I said to no to. He got biatchy about it, until I said this:"Is that the sort of message you'd want your daughter to get? That the only thing a woman is good for is sex, so who cares that you dropped a 7 pound weight out of your cooch, get back on the treadmill so you can get those abs and look desirable?"/yes, I'm a feminist. Yes the picture pissed me off. Not because of what it is, but because of the cultural context that surrounds it
rzrwiresunrise: First, it does seem a little strange that so much emphasis would be put on getting back into mating form ASAP once she's squeezed out a pup. I mean, unless she's in tight competition with other females for her mate, or for another potential mate.Second, it seems as tho there's a very narrow definition of healthy at work here, one that only depends on fitness. Fit and healthy aren't always equivalent; in fact, they can be at odds more often than not. As fit as a lot of elite athletes may be, I'd be hesitant to call them healthy, especially given the myriad injuries that accompany performance at those levels. Additionally, there's plenty of anecdotal evidence of people who are quite fit... and suffering from heart attacks, strokes, etc.Last, I wonder if there's a skewed perception of what body fat percentages look like in real terms. This is a good article that provides pics and explanations for the various ranges. It's surprising wrt what we imagine looks fit.Sample:[www.builtlean.com image 400x273]
PerfectHotSauce: I just don't get the outrage. To me, the fitness trainer was sending out a challenge to women who want to get in shape and get healthy, but are having trouble finding motivation or are making excuses that they know are just excuses. If that's not an immediate goal of yours, why are you even paying attention? I'm 18 weeks pregnant with my first and I'm holding Maria Kang as a role model. I don't want to go down the road other members of my family have gone down and still be fighting my baby weight 20 years after my daughter is born, which sounds like what she was doing. Looking at her makes me feel optimistic that that's a lifelong battle I won't have to face. If you look at her and feel anger and outrage, that says more about your issues than hers.
voristrupp: This magical thing? It's called WILLPOWER. See, when I'm not pregnant I eat less, breastfeed, take my kids to the scary, scary outdoors, and even... Are you ready for this? MAKE FOOD THAT DOESNT INVOLVE A MICROWAVE OR A DRIVE THRU. It's a scary concept, I know. And blah blah blah to the "I'm so busy" bs-ers. Take the stairs. Pack a healthy lunch. Stop drinking soda (diet included). Make healthy dinner in a crockpot. Quit with the excuses.Lots of us do all of the above and we don't look like Ms. Kang. Do you look like Ms Kang? No? Then what's your excuse?
Peki: DebinCO:I don't need a reading list. I've got my degree in Women's Studies.
Pangea: Peki: Frederick: Who do you think is most often placing value on a woman's sex appeal -men or women? In this example the woman clearly has attributed her value to her sex appeal.Chicken and egg question. They perpetuate it equally, and I don't really care who started it.I go to the gym 5 days a week and I like how it makes me look. It makes me feel confident and I do it for me, not my wife.Who are you to tell me that I should feel guilty about trying to make myself look fit and be healthy?Your twisted, self-loathing doesn't define my self-image and I reject your belief that it is supposed to.
sendtodave: Peki: sendtodave: People tend to put value on what they are good at. Some people are good at looking good. They shouldn't value that? That shouldn't be an important part of their self identity?Those are called models, and they have something called photoshop.This picture? It ignores the social structures behind the woman that allow her to have that body.LadyHawke: I notice that it's almost always actresses, fitness models, and fitness bloggers who end up losing the weight quickly. If it were my job to be in insanely good shape and I was paid enough so I didn't have to do anything but workout and eat perfectly, I would probably have those abs too.This touches on it.theMightyRegeya: All right, so it's a second response, but I felt the need to add something on top of questioning why physically fit==whore (or something.)I don't think physical fitness = whore. I think a selfie of your ultrafit body four days after birth (that you KNOW other women can't have) = AW who knows she's destroying other women's self-esteem.Women's self esteem is based on how another woman looks?That doesn't make sense. No, it's based on how they feel that they look.You're saying that we we get rid of food looking people, more women would feel better about themselves, basically.Everyone gets a medal!
Laobaojun: Anne.Uumellmahaye: This is the first time I've ever seen this image, I'm sorry that I feel no rage for you to be outraged about.I also don't think it tells women to plop a kid out and immediately head for the treadmill so they can be sexy again. That's not a particularly sexy picture. She's hot, but she's also surrounded by toddlers. Get fit to be fit. If it makes you feel sexy, well then bonus. If you feel unsexy because you're not fit, either work on your physical fitness or work on your mental fitness. Either way, that's your issue, not hers.This too.As a guy who is fighting genetics, I sympathize, but surrender is lame. Fit is sexy, but fit is also fit. I have never heard of someone who was fit, but didn't feel sexy. Anorexic is not fit, and low BMI with no muscle tone is not fit, and it really does not take that much time out of your week to stay fit.If this photo made you feel bad, get off your butt, cut the portions down, and stop feeling unfit.
bmwericus: LadyHawke: I notice that it's almost always actresses, fitness models, and fitness bloggers who end up losing the weight quickly. If it were my job to be in insanely good shape and I was paid enough so I didn't have to do anything but workout and eat perfectly, I would probably have those abs too.There's a lot of factors at work here, let's face it.There are some women who take the whole "Hey, I'm eating for TWO!" thing as an excuse to pack on 50 lbs for a pregnancy - which is way more than you need to from the get go - IIRC, a healthy gain is like 20-25 lbs or a bit more. You don't have to double your normal intake for nine months.I think that Post Partum depression is a big factor too for some women - my wife had it pretty bad for a couple months.The point about seeing fitness nuts and celebs whose sole job is to look good - well yea - imagine how many hours a day these gals worked out prior to, during and probably shortly after giving birth? Plus, for the rich celebs, top notch medical care during to insure eating enough but not too much, a chef to prepare you meals - etc. Sweet life? Must make it easier anyway.I'm not going to comment on the 'letting yourself go' - I'm a guy and gained a ton of weight over a few years and lost it with great effort, so I know about that problem. I blame a job that just sucked my soul out, and had me working too many hours in a swivel chair.And if you are pissed by seeing those pics, well, think of them as an object lesson in how it CAN be done, if you are motivated.
studebaker hoch: Two moderate workouts a week will keep anyone in shape.Hardest excecise at the gym is pulling open the front door.
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