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2013-12-13 12:27:34 AM  

DrewCurtisJr: FizixJunkee: They have bad genes, and aspergers, and adhd, and dyslexia, and somatic symptom disorder.

Hasn't stopped me from doing a PhD.

Yes but you see I have stage II aspergers.



And that's significant because...?
 
2013-12-13 12:27:41 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: Peki: Gyn/Ecology was one of my favorite works.

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[doblelol.com image 302x480]


Whoops. My error.

I was confusing Daly and Firestone. I was thinking of Dialectic of Sex, not Gyn/Ecology.

Firestone criticized Marx's economic determinism, and said that it's whether or not you have a womb that determines your economic position. She advocated artificial reproduction and communal upbringing to "free" women from the career restraints placed upon them by pregnancy and child rearing.
 
2013-12-13 12:29:00 AM  

Peki: Why? If I have a porn stash, so should he.


media.salon.com
What a pornstache may look like.
 
2013-12-13 12:32:50 AM  

ZeroCorpse: Frankly, I don't understand why that isn't all that matters to the women who take these show-off pics. Clearly, they're trying to piss people off, because I can't imagine they're trying to get other men interested in them since they're supposedly happily married. The only answer is that they're doing it to be biatchy. They're doing it to run their "awesome life" in the faces of other people... And that's biatchy.


Yes. And so the winning move (if you run into one of these people in person) is to simply refuse to play.  Change the subject every time.

The true narcissists will get really pissed off when you do that, which is hilarious.

If it's images in advertising putting you in a bad mood, just learn to read less ads.
 
2013-12-13 12:32:51 AM  

Occam's Disposable Razor: sendtodave: Women's self esteem is based on how another woman looks?

Absolutely.


Yep.  Women spend an awful lot of time, energy, and money in competing against other women, and far less time trying to attract men than men would think they do.     Wanna woman to be happy?  Ensure she's the skinniest woman in the room, even if that means she's practically anorexic and no man around finds her body attractive.
 
2013-12-13 12:33:05 AM  

Occam's Disposable Razor: sendtodave: Women's self esteem is based on how another woman looks?

Absolutely.


cf. "HAZARDS" :

www.militariapress.com
 
2013-12-13 12:33:25 AM  

Occam's Disposable Razor: sendtodave: Women's self esteem is based on how another woman looks?

Absolutely.


That doesn't makes sense.
 
2013-12-13 12:33:26 AM  

Peki: What? You don't feel a little self-conscious every time a successful looking guy driving your dream car comes on TV? You don't feel that pull, that social gaze, judging you, telling you that you aren't good enough? You don't see the muscular, trim dudes, then look in the mirror and not feel a little down?

Guys, quit acting like peer pressure doesn't work on you too.


No. We don't feel that. We know you can't fathom this, and it is because all of you are farking insane. That is seriously the most ridiculous thing I have read today. Never attempt to speak for men again. That was terrible.
 
2013-12-13 12:34:14 AM  
I just don't get the outrage. To me, the fitness trainer was sending out a challenge to women who want to get in shape and get healthy, but are having trouble finding motivation or are making excuses that they know are just excuses. If that's not an immediate goal of yours, why are you even paying attention? I'm 18 weeks pregnant with my first and I'm holding Maria Kang as a role model. I don't want to go down the road other members of my family have gone down and still be fighting my baby weight 20 years after my daughter is born, which sounds like what she was doing. Looking at her makes me feel optimistic that that's a lifelong battle I won't have to face. If you look at her and feel anger and outrage, that says more about your issues than hers.
 
2013-12-13 12:34:24 AM  

Bumblefark: pushcart: Women with extra weight are hot. Biological determinism wires men to find them so. Look at ancient fertility figurines. Their shape signals fecundity and stimulates the male urge to procreate.

 

/gotta get me some of that sweet, sweet fecundity...


Snert and snert again! I tip my hat to you, but I am afraid I must dismiss the reductio ad absurdum on the right.
 
2013-12-13 12:34:47 AM  

sendtodave: Frederick: Peki: sendtodave: Peki: Frederick: Who do you think is most often placing value on a woman's sex appeal -men or women?  In this example the woman clearly has attributed her value to her sex appeal.

Chicken and egg question. They perpetuate it equally, and I don't really care who started it.

Being attractive is bad, and anyone who disagrees is bad.

Huh.

What? How in the heck do you get that from what I've said?

Funny.  I was going to say the exact same thing.

Being attractive is not bad.  Placing your self worth (or value) on being attractive is bad; is the point I'm trying to make.

... Why is that?

People tend to put value on what they are good at. Some people are good at looking good. They shouldn't value that? That shouldn't be an important part of their self identity?


I feel confident that if you dont understand, there is no way I can explain it to you so that you will.  I can only hope you are not in the psychology or counseling fields.

/genetics are not things people are "good at"
//self identity =/= self value
 
2013-12-13 12:36:03 AM  

ZeroCorpse: DrewCurtisJr: ZeroCorpse: These pictures are not for men; They're posted solely to be completely biatchy to other women... So I can understand the angry reaction.

And I've also lived long enough to know to stay the hell out of it.

It may not be out of biatchyness. You say you lived long enough to stay out of it, so lets assume you are over 25. How many guys have used the excuse of getting older to let themselves get out of shape? What if a guy who was 45 and in great shape posted a picture on a social media site and said I'm 47 what's your excuse? A 39 year old may find that motivating and decide that it is time to stop making excuses and get in shape.

I'm in my 40s. I'm not fat, but I'll never be built like Hugh Jackman. I accept that. I wish I could be rid of my spare tire, but it's not bad, all things considered, and my girl is supportive and thinks I'm attractive, so as long as she's happy, I can live with how I look.

And that's what it really comes down to. If someone is post-pregnancy, then I assume they're probably partnered already, and they're probably with someone who loves them. While it's nice to try to look good for your significant other, you also have to keep things in perspective: If they're happy with you (happy enough to raise kids with you) then who are you trying to impress with sexy pictures, or the desire to live up to other peoples' sexy pictures?

I contend that the people who make this a big deal are generally kind of vapid and self-absorbed. This is a Type-A personality sort of thing. This is narcissism. This does not affect me.

I'm not in competition with other guys. I have the love of my life, and she's happy with me the way I am. That is all that matter to me.

Frankly, I don't understand why that isn't all that matters to the women who take these show-off pics. Clearly, they're trying to piss people off, because I can't imagine they're trying to get other men interested in them since they're supposedly happily married. The only answer is that they're doing it to be biatchy. They're doing it to run their "awesome life" in the faces of other people... And that's biatchy.


I've read that women don't get all dressed up and sexy looking when going out for their husbands /boyfriends, they do it for other women. Because other women are watching.

My wife told me that this was accurate.

It's all about competition. All the time.
 
2013-12-13 12:36:14 AM  

DebinCO: Nope, you are NOT a feminist.


Exclusion!  Yes, that's the ticket.  It's working so well for the Republican party, how could it fail feminists?  There could not possibly be any strength in numbers.  Only the weak need sympathizers--in fact, feminists did their best work with the majority of public directly opposing them, right?  Your efforts in this thread to restore those conditions went very well.
 
2013-12-13 12:38:29 AM  

Sergeant Grumbles: Hearing "What's your excuse for being fat?" from the wife of a soccer star who can spend the day at home working out sounds pretty much exactly like Mitt Romney telling the poor that they need to get an education or start a business by borrowing money from their parents. There's just a massive amount of ignorance that comes off as smugness, or vice versa, that ignores the reality a lot of people face. That kind of inconsiderate attitude can most definitely draw anger, but there's just enough truth behind the comment to be defensible.
That said, shaming is never a good motivator, whether it be shaming the viewer directly or shaming their actions, it's still a negative form of encouragement. There are better ways that could have been phrased that wouldn't have provoked anywhere near as much ire.


Think that soccer star married her when she was 60 pounds overweight and now she works out, because she likes it? It's not ignorance or smugness you observe, but jealousy. The more vocal, the more of a problem it is. Give her a year with 3 kids living in a trailer park eating fast food and you would see her fa...er, probably just genetics, so she'd still all toned and washboardy. Sorry big girls.
 
2013-12-13 12:38:53 AM  

Frederick: /genetics are not things people are "good at"


Frederick Sanger is pretty good at it.
 
2013-12-13 12:39:26 AM  

sendtodave: I've read that women don't get all dressed up and sexy looking when going out for their husbands /boyfriends, they do it for other women. Because other women are watching.

My wife told me that this was accurate.

It's all about competition. All the time.



100% truth.
 
2013-12-13 12:42:49 AM  

Frederick: sendtodave: Frederick: Peki: sendtodave: Peki: Frederick: Who do you think is most often placing value on a woman's sex appeal -men or women?  In this example the woman clearly has attributed her value to her sex appeal.

Chicken and egg question. They perpetuate it equally, and I don't really care who started it.

Being attractive is bad, and anyone who disagrees is bad.

Huh.

What? How in the heck do you get that from what I've said?

Funny.  I was going to say the exact same thing.

Being attractive is not bad.  Placing your self worth (or value) on being attractive is bad; is the point I'm trying to make.

... Why is that?

People tend to put value on what they are good at. Some people are good at looking good. They shouldn't value that? That shouldn't be an important part of their self identity?

I feel confident that if you dont understand, there is no way I can explain it to you so that you will.  I can only hope you are not in the psychology or counseling fields.

/genetics are not things people are "good at"
//self identity =/= self value


Being good at something is about results.

How you achieve this results doesn't matter.

Peoples don't get disqualified from races because they were born being able to run fast, no darn it, that isn't fair!

In fact, we frown on performance enhancing drugs because they aren't "natural." Being born able to run fast? Not cheating. Using drugs to run fast?Cheating.

We value natural ability, natural beauty, etc. all the time.
 
2013-12-13 12:47:30 AM  

sendtodave: Occam's Disposable Razor: sendtodave: Women's self esteem is based on how another woman looks?

Absolutely.

That doesn't makes sense.


You're trying to jam logic into a space where it doesn't fit, friend.
 
2013-12-13 12:47:44 AM  

Peki: My fiance and I had a small row over this. Normally, I'm good about clicking pics from Fark or other places for him to *ahem* peruse later. This one I said to no to. He got biatchy about it, until I said this:

"Is that the sort of message you'd want your daughter to get? That the only thing a woman is good for is sex, so who cares that you dropped a 7 pound weight out of your cooch, get back on the treadmill so you can get those abs and look desirable?"

/yes, I'm a feminist. Yes the picture pissed me off. Not because of what it is, but because of the cultural context that surrounds it


Some people work out because they actually enjoy it, and actually enjoy doing things with their bodies. Now that I understand people equate it with sexual things, all of the hate makes a lot of sense. You are teeming with insecurities, I keep most of mine to myself.
 
2013-12-13 12:47:52 AM  

Peki: sendtodave: People tend to put value on what they are good at. Some people are good at looking good. They shouldn't value that? That shouldn't be an important part of their self identity?

Those are called models, and they have something called photoshop.

This picture? It ignores the social structures behind the woman that allow her to have that body.

LadyHawke: I notice that it's almost always actresses, fitness models, and fitness bloggers who end up losing the weight quickly.  If it were my job to be in insanely good shape and I was paid enough so I didn't have to do anything but workout and eat perfectly, I would probably have those abs too.

This touches on it.

theMightyRegeya: All right, so it's a second response, but I felt the need to add something on top of questioning why physically fit==whore (or something.)

I don't think physical fitness = whore. I think a selfie of your ultrafit body four days after birth (that you KNOW other women can't have)   = AW who knows she's destroying other women's self-esteem.


Ah, I think I understand feminism now. If someone does something you think you can't do, they are horrible people who should hide in their basement out of sight.

This is is why third wave feminism is a crock of shiat. The first wave fought for basic human rights. The second wave fought for equality and parity with men. The third wave fights so that no one ever gets their fee-fees hurt by seeing someone more successful than them.

By that logic, how dare people wear clothes that I can't afford, or drive cars in public that I can't afford. How dare anyone be better than me in public? Oh, and don't get me started on pro athletes. It's so not fair that they flaunt their years of rigorous training on tv? No one should be allowed to be better than anyone else, we should all be fat, lazy, unaccomplished apathetic slobs, lest someone feel bad about something.
 
2013-12-13 12:49:37 AM  

Occam's Disposable Razor: sendtodave: Occam's Disposable Razor: sendtodave: Women's self esteem is based on how another woman looks?

Absolutely.

That doesn't makes sense.

You're trying to jam logic into a space where it doesn't fit, friend.


2.bp.blogspot.com

Any major dude will tell you.
 
2013-12-13 12:50:39 AM  

Olo Manolo: Benevolent Misanthrope: It's not post-pregnancy fitness selfies that are causing the rage, you idiots.  It's the post-pregnancy fitness selfies accompanied by a caption on the order of, "Look at me!!!  If you aren't predisposed to lose weight quickly and look like me, you're a fat, lazy cow and I WIN ALL THE THINGS!!!!"

1: all selfies are of the "Look at me!" variety..
2: she has the right to be proud of her body, she is effing hot..
3: she didn't call anybody a fat lazy cow, or boast that she is better than anybody.. did you happen to read her whole "apology" article? the one where she correctly states that we are a fat country and it's bad for our health? the whole thing was about getting people to exercise some and eat better, it was all true, and good advice, but STILL people were crying "this hurts my poor wittle feewings!"
4: you sound fat...


Me and the old lady have some extra poundage but ya know....we'll survive a hard winter better than you will.so we win. Plus we can float.
 
2013-12-13 12:51:18 AM  

Lusiphur: Peki: sendtodave: People tend to put value on what they are good at. Some people are good at looking good. They shouldn't value that? That shouldn't be an important part of their self identity?

Those are called models, and they have something called photoshop.

This picture? It ignores the social structures behind the woman that allow her to have that body.

LadyHawke: I notice that it's almost always actresses, fitness models, and fitness bloggers who end up losing the weight quickly.  If it were my job to be in insanely good shape and I was paid enough so I didn't have to do anything but workout and eat perfectly, I would probably have those abs too.

This touches on it.

theMightyRegeya: All right, so it's a second response, but I felt the need to add something on top of questioning why physically fit==whore (or something.)

I don't think physical fitness = whore. I think a selfie of your ultrafit body four days after birth (that you KNOW other women can't have)   = AW who knows she's destroying other women's self-esteem.

Ah, I think I understand feminism now. If someone does something you think you can't do, they are horrible people who should hide in their basement out of sight.

This is is why third wave feminism is a crock of shiat. The first wave fought for basic human rights. The second wave fought for equality and parity with men. The third wave fights so that no one ever gets their fee-fees hurt by seeing someone more successful than them.

By that logic, how dare people wear clothes that I can't afford, or drive cars in public that I can't afford. How dare anyone be better than me in public? Oh, and don't get me started on pro athletes. It's so not fair that they flaunt their years of rigorous training on tv? No one should be allowed to be better than anyone else, we should all be fat, lazy, unaccomplished apathetic slobs, lest someone feel bad about something.


If the goal is total equality, the tallest blades of grass must be cut.
 
2013-12-13 01:01:23 AM  

sendtodave: Lusiphur: Peki: sendtodave: People tend to put value on what they are good at. Some people are good at looking good. They shouldn't value that? That shouldn't be an important part of their self identity?

Those are called models, and they have something called photoshop.

This picture? It ignores the social structures behind the woman that allow her to have that body.

LadyHawke: I notice that it's almost always actresses, fitness models, and fitness bloggers who end up losing the weight quickly.  If it were my job to be in insanely good shape and I was paid enough so I didn't have to do anything but workout and eat perfectly, I would probably have those abs too.

This touches on it.

theMightyRegeya: All right, so it's a second response, but I felt the need to add something on top of questioning why physically fit==whore (or something.)

I don't think physical fitness = whore. I think a selfie of your ultrafit body four days after birth (that you KNOW other women can't have)   = AW who knows she's destroying other women's self-esteem.

Ah, I think I understand feminism now. If someone does something you think you can't do, they are horrible people who should hide in their basement out of sight.

This is is why third wave feminism is a crock of shiat. The first wave fought for basic human rights. The second wave fought for equality and parity with men. The third wave fights so that no one ever gets their fee-fees hurt by seeing someone more successful than them.

By that logic, how dare people wear clothes that I can't afford, or drive cars in public that I can't afford. How dare anyone be better than me in public? Oh, and don't get me started on pro athletes. It's so not fair that they flaunt their years of rigorous training on tv? No one should be allowed to be better than anyone else, we should all be fat, lazy, unaccomplished apathetic slobs, lest someone feel bad about something.

If the goal is total equality, the tallest blades of grass must be cut.


Close, except that all but the very shortest must be cut. Because it's totally not fair to make the 800 lb woman lose weight. Stop pushing your penisocracy on the poor misunderstood 800lb woman. Don't you get it? She's a hero for stuffing her face full of anti-establishment Twinkies.
 
2013-12-13 01:10:09 AM  
I like looking at pictures of hot chicks.
 
2013-12-13 01:12:35 AM  
fanbladesaresharp: Me and the old lady have some extra poundage but ya know....we'll survive a hard winter better than you will.so we win. Plus we can float.


I'm fat, myself.. I'm just not in the business of being pissed off at people who aren't.
 
2013-12-13 01:15:09 AM  

Peki: Danger Avoid Death: Peki: Gyn/Ecology was one of my favorite works.

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[doblelol.com image 302x480]

Whoops. My error.

I was confusing Daly and Firestone. I was thinking of Dialectic of Sex, not Gyn/Ecology.

Firestone criticized Marx's economic determinism, and said that it's whether or not you have a womb that determines your economic position. She advocated artificial reproduction and communal upbringing to "free" women from the career restraints placed upon them by pregnancy and child rearing.


Heh. Never trust The Google.
 
2013-12-13 01:18:38 AM  

Bucky Katt: I like looking at pictures of hot chicks.


Monster! Don't you know how bad that makes unattractive people feel?
 
2013-12-13 01:21:33 AM  

PerfectHotSauce: I just don't get the outrage. To me, the fitness trainer was sending out a challenge to women who want to get in shape and get healthy, but are having trouble finding motivation or are making excuses that they know are just excuses. If that's not an immediate goal of yours, why are you even paying attention? I'm 18 weeks pregnant with my first and I'm holding Maria Kang as a role model. I don't want to go down the road other members of my family have gone down and still be fighting my baby weight 20 years after my daughter is born, which sounds like what she was doing. Looking at her makes me feel optimistic that that's a lifelong battle I won't have to face. If you look at her and feel anger and outrage, that says more about your issues than hers.


That's been covered already.

Apparently, it's bad to try and challenge women that might be suffering from depression. Because they're fat.

...

Actually, why would motivate someone suffering from depression? "You're great just the way you are?"
 
2013-12-13 01:22:11 AM  
Wat would, I mean. Wat.
 
2013-12-13 01:29:13 AM  
I think someone has a crush on me. How cute.
 
2013-12-13 01:36:41 AM  

pushcart: Bumblefark: pushcart: Women with extra weight are hot. Biological determinism wires men to find them so. Look at ancient fertility figurines. Their shape signals fecundity and stimulates the male urge to procreate.

/gotta get me some of that sweet, sweet fecundity...

Snert and snert again! I tip my hat to you, but I am afraid I must dismiss the reductio ad absurdum on the right.


Heh. Fair enough. Actually, I don't entirely disagree. But, with some caveats...

I think cultures in different stages of advancement tend to emphasize different aspects of the female form, in constructing their representations of "beauty." That doesn't make any one representation more or less "natural" than any other -- just a better cultural fit.

And, just as it would be a mistake to look at Barbie dolls as an empirically accurate representation of what men find attractive in the everyday world, I think you'd be mistaken to assume that earlier men actually lusted after women shaped like those fertility fetish figures. It's a caricature of a selectively focused ideal, nothing more. In the real world, it would be regarded as strange and grotesque.

images.forbes.com
 
2013-12-13 01:39:35 AM  

Catlike Typist: DebinCO: Nope, you are NOT a feminist.

Exclusion!  Yes, that's the ticket.  It's working so well for the Republican party, how could it fail feminists?  There could not possibly be any strength in numbers.  Only the weak need sympathizers--in fact, feminists did their best work with the majority of public directly opposing them, right?  Your efforts in this thread to restore those conditions went very well.


::sigh:: Because what YOU call "feminists" are nothing more than window dressing. All storm and no thunder. All for naught. Because real feminism doesn't exist anymore. We've beaten the men into the ground and we women are so full of self-hate (the original post re: post-pregnancy "selfies") that we are doomed until we finally figure out that we are all human beings, and nothing more. I'm sorry for your take on my post(s) but I suspect you were born in the 1980s. It proves my thesis. That makes me very sad.  :-(

And bringing American politics to a discussion on feminism proves that you don't read; don't parse; and don't do any original thinking except what you hear on the Internets or from your self-absorbed so-called "feminist" friends. Gah.

It's almost like we've gone back to the Eisenhower era, except we don't have to (unless we WANT to) wear pearls while we're cooking.

You and your ilk have destroyed the good work(s) that Betty, Bella, and Simone did...how do you reconcile that? Seriously asking. Not expecting a thoughtful answer but that would be OK if you can Google it together.

My post had NOTHING to do with what you call "exclusion." Nor shaming.

This is what men hate about us...and sometimes I agree with them, sad to say. Your post does us no favors...only reinforces the stereotypes.

Get back to me when you're 60. Then we'll have something to talk about. Until then, you might want to rethink what you just posted.  :-/
 
2013-12-13 01:44:13 AM  

DebinCO: American politics


Considering it's where feminism started. . . And you're the one griping about history.

You're probably still pissed about the lesbian menace take-over in the 80s.
 
2013-12-13 01:44:37 AM  

Bumblefark: pushcart: Bumblefark: pushcart: Women with extra weight are hot. Biological determinism wires men to find them so. Look at ancient fertility figurines. Their shape signals fecundity and stimulates the male urge to procreate.

/gotta get me some of that sweet, sweet fecundity...

Snert and snert again! I tip my hat to you, but I am afraid I must dismiss the reductio ad absurdum on the right.

Heh. Fair enough. Actually, I don't entirely disagree. But, with some caveats...

I think cultures in different stages of advancement tend to emphasize different aspects of the female form, in constructing their representations of "beauty." That doesn't make any one representation more or less "natural" than any other -- just a better cultural fit.

And, just as it would be a mistake to look at Barbie dolls as an empirically accurate representation of what men find attractive in the everyday world, I think you'd be mistaken to assume that earlier men actually lusted after women shaped like those fertility fetish figures. It's a caricature of a selectively focused ideal, nothing more. In the real world, it would be regarded as strange and grotesque.


Interesting, I've never thought about Barbie as a modern day Venus figurine. It's a really interesting way to look at it.

Hyper-Exaggerated notions of what women are supposed to look like
 
2013-12-13 01:49:37 AM  
Actually...

Has anyone ever speculated on whether the Venus figurines might actually just be children's dolls?

I mean, there's no reason to assume that dolls are a new thing.

/my mom figured that the hands, and stick figure cave painting were kids scribbling on the walls
 
2013-12-13 01:50:12 AM  
What!?  All people are NOT the same??
 
2013-12-13 01:52:19 AM  
For all the Kim Kardashian lovers out there:

www.gumbumper.com

Yum, right?
 
2013-12-13 01:53:25 AM  

ZeroCorpse: For all the Kim Kardashian lovers out there:



Yum, right?


Ermergherd! A cold sore!
 
2013-12-13 01:55:14 AM  

TheBlackFlag: What!?  All people are NOT the same??


They are! You win! And how pleased I am to say that!  :-)
 
2013-12-13 01:58:18 AM  
sendtodave
I hope you have him farkied as patriarchy that perpetuates traditional gender roles!
Really now, assuming that women care more about looks, and men care more about wealth and power?
That's so last century.


Dave, I should be farkied as a card carrying member of the patriarchy that perpetuates gender rolls keeping down the women.

I do suppose some of my cultural references are squared well in the 90's and some of my assumptions no longer hold true. That is a wonderful thing, I want to see true gender equality. Someday society may have changed around you too, but thanks for the update. I am listening.

However farkieing me as a member of the patriarchy? I don't know where to go with that. There was a young woman who wanted to become an engineer so I sent her threatening emails to become a nurse or a grade school teacher. And there was the time I burned that symbolic wooden phallus in the female corporate executive's yard.

May I suggest that you do things like publicly shame sexist programmer making dongle forking joke by putting their face on twitter. You could take pictures of men man-sitting on the bus and subway and post them on fark to put the patriarchy in check.

Be the face of social justice my friend.
 
2013-12-13 01:58:22 AM  

upndn: Lame farkin thread. I was expecting pics...and lots of them, you know chicks and skin and boobs and curves and such.

Instead, one smoking hot milf and something bumbledfarked, whatever....

/dnrtfa
//now where will I look
///farkin innernet


*sigh* Fine..if you're gonna whine:

images.thehollywoodgossip.com

There. Now don't say I never gave you nothing.

/heh. I've been verbified.
 
2013-12-13 02:00:40 AM  

Enemabag Jones: sendtodave
I hope you have him farkied as patriarchy that perpetuates traditional gender roles!
Really now, assuming that women care more about looks, and men care more about wealth and power?
That's so last century.

Dave, I should be farkied as a card carrying member of the patriarchy that perpetuates gender rolls keeping down the women.

I do suppose some of my cultural references are squared well in the 90's and some of my assumptions no longer hold true. That is a wonderful thing, I want to see true gender equality. Someday society may have changed around you too, but thanks for the update. I am listening.

However farkieing me as a member of the patriarchy? I don't know where to go with that. There was a young woman who wanted to become an engineer so I sent her threatening emails to become a nurse or a grade school teacher. And there was the time I burned that symbolic wooden phallus in the female corporate executive's yard.

May I suggest that you do things like publicly shame sexist programmer making dongle forking joke by putting their face on twitter. You could take pictures of men man-sitting on the bus and subway and post them on fark to put the patriarchy in check.

Be the face of social justice my friend.


Well, I was being sarcastic, but this all kinda sounds like fun.
 
2013-12-13 02:00:43 AM  

Bumblefark: upndn: Lame farkin thread. I was expecting pics...and lots of them, you know chicks and skin and boobs and curves and such.

Instead, one smoking hot milf and something bumbledfarked, whatever....

/dnrtfa
//now where will I look
///farkin innernet

*sigh* Fine..if you're gonna whine:

[images.thehollywoodgossip.com image 630x473]

There. Now don't say I never gave you nothing.

/heh. I've been verbified.


That was great until I got to the face. Then all I heard was "MICHAEL!"
 
2013-12-13 02:02:11 AM  

Peki: DebinCO: American politics

Considering it's where feminism started. . . And you're the one griping about history.

You're probably still pissed about the lesbian menace take-over in the 80s.


Wow, nice. Go for the low blow. What if I AM a lesbian? You just negated everything you wrote above, proving my point about pseudo-feminists in the 21st century. Well done, "sister." Your true colors just shone through loud and clear. How does it feel to be dis-enfranchised among your own sisterhood?

This is going to be a panel discussion at my university classes next semester. Thanks for the fodder!  :-) I couldn't have done it without you!
 
2013-12-13 02:02:26 AM  
sendtodave
Well, I was being sarcastic, but this all kinda sounds like fun.


Then I missed the joke. My bad.
 
2013-12-13 02:06:27 AM  

DebinCO: Peki: DebinCO: American politics

Considering it's where feminism started. . . And you're the one griping about history.

You're probably still pissed about the lesbian menace take-over in the 80s.

Wow, nice. Go for the low blow. What if I AM a lesbian? You just negated everything you wrote above, proving my point about pseudo-feminists in the 21st century. Well done, "sister." Your true colors just shone through loud and clear. How does it feel to be dis-enfranchised among your own sisterhood?

This is going to be a panel discussion at my university classes next semester. Thanks for the fodder!  :-) I couldn't have done it without you!


I didn't say anything about you being a lesbian. There were plenty of lesbians who were pissed off at what happened, just like there are plenty of gay folks who were against equal marriage. I just said you were still pissed about it.

And I AM disenfranchised among my own sisterhood. Comes with being transgendered. *shrug*
 
2013-12-13 02:06:52 AM  

DebinCO: Peki: DebinCO: American politics

Considering it's where feminism started. . . And you're the one griping about history.

You're probably still pissed about the lesbian menace take-over in the 80s.

Wow, nice. Go for the low blow. What if I AM a lesbian? You just negated everything you wrote above, proving my point about pseudo-feminists in the 21st century. Well done, "sister." Your true colors just shone through loud and clear. How does it feel to be dis-enfranchised among your own sisterhood?

This is going to be a panel discussion at my university classes next semester. Thanks for the fodder!  :-) I couldn't have done it without you!


Oh, this is something.

Second generation feminists teach classes to third generation feminists, and despise them?

.... It's so beautiful!
 
2013-12-13 02:08:01 AM  
Btw, Deb, in case you hadn't figured it out, this is you:

img.fark.net
 
2013-12-13 02:08:40 AM  

sendtodave: Second generation feminists teach classes to third generation feminists, and despise them?


She's not second wave. She's a first waver.
 
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