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2013-12-12 11:45:55 PM
Wasn't expecting the need for popcorn. Brb...gotta go see if the wife or daughters will throw some in the microwave for me.

/The Internet has turned some adults into drooling idiots
 
2013-12-12 11:47:29 PM
All I have to say about this is that Kim Kardashian is not a good example of a nice post-pregnancy body. She's a fat-assed cow who looks like a partially-melted Bratz doll, despite having a personal trainer and all the money she could need to spend on beauty. Any woman who feels like they need to look like Kim Kardashian should know that many people find her ugly, fat-assed, and unpleasant in every way.

As for the others... Well, this is how women pick on each other. No matter how much pseudo-feminists want to rage about men embracing and endorsing an impossible female body image, the truth is that women do it to each other a lot more, and a with generally vicious intentions. These pictures are not for men; They're posted solely to be completely biatchy to other women... So I can understand the angry reaction.

And I've also lived long enough to know to stay the hell out of it.
 
2013-12-12 11:47:39 PM
Hey mother, want another?
 
2013-12-12 11:47:53 PM

Enemabag Jones: complain about 20 year old games from a Japanese company.


if you are referring to mario and saving princess peach, I believe he has been around for about 30 years now rather than 20.
 
2013-12-12 11:48:11 PM

Peki: sendtodave: Does it focus primarily on hurt feelings?

Nope. The whole thing is about perspective: how to look at everyday situations with a transgendered person's eyes.



OMG. That is SO WRONG. Whatever the "everyday situations" are that you think are so important for you to see, it is NOT worth blinding ANYONE regardless of their gender.

/plus back-alley eye surgery is a dangerous game (see, e.g., the documentary "Minority Report")
 
2013-12-12 11:49:01 PM

powhound: Wasn't expecting the need for popcorn. Brb...gotta go see if the wife or daughters will throw some in the microwave for me.

/The Internet has turned some adults into drooling idiots


Are you not entertained?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Is this not why you come here?
 
2013-12-12 11:50:12 PM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: OMG. That is SO WRONG. Whatever the "everyday situations" are that you think are so important for you to see, it is NOT worth blinding ANYONE regardless of their gender.


LOL
 
2013-12-12 11:50:21 PM

Gergesa: sendtodave: voristrupp: I am fit and what's more *I* have a phd and they don't. I think all women should have PhDs or MDs. What's THEIR excuse?

Oh, you mean everybody doesn't share MY priorities in life?

But you would say that, with hard work and determination, anyone could get a phd, right?

You will probably need money or a scholarship also.



The NSF will pay all your tuition and fees, plus give you $32,000/year, while you get your PhD.  They did for me!
 
2013-12-12 11:50:22 PM

Peki: My fiance and I had a small row over this. Normally, I'm good about clicking pics from Fark or other places for him to *ahem* peruse later. This one I said to no to. He got biatchy about it, until I said this:

"Is that the sort of message you'd want your daughter to get? That the only thing a woman is good for is sex, so who cares that you dropped a 7 pound weight out of your cooch, get back on the treadmill so you can get those abs and look desirable?"

/yes, I'm a feminist. Yes the picture pissed me off. Not because of what it is, but because of the cultural context that surrounds it


That poor, poor man.
 
2013-12-12 11:50:47 PM

Enemabag Jones: How about shutting the fark up and dealing with the situation.

If you want washboard abs work for it, if you are happy with your life as it is then you don't need to have a dialog about not having a perfect body.

Last time I checked most men don't have to have an article about self-acceptance that they are not wealthy and powerful.  But [some women] need to have self-affirmations that they are ok without the perfect body.

If you want it work for it, if you don't deal with life as it is.


Favorited...
 
2013-12-12 11:52:45 PM

Peki: dr_blasto: sendtodave: Peki: theMightyRegeya: And honestly, when I see a horde of people complaining about people bragging about physical fitness, the horde never shames men, it's always women!

Funny. Everyone missed that my original problem was with my fiance wanting to dl it as a porn pic. It was his reaction to the picture that set me off.

I just thought it was weird that you provide him with fap material.

And that's not even of a naked woman. This is that "I'm a fit mom with my kids" pic right? WTF

In his defense, he didn't notice that there were kids in the pic at first. I had to point them out.


This sentence sounds like it's more for  your defense.
 
2013-12-12 11:53:50 PM

Mentalenemasquad: Enemabag Jones: How about shutting the fark up and dealing with the situation.

If you want washboard abs work for it, if you are happy with your life as it is then you don't need to have a dialog about not having a perfect body.

Last time I checked most men don't have to have an article about self-acceptance that they are not wealthy and powerful.  But [some women] need to have self-affirmations that they are ok without the perfect body.

If you want it work for it, if you don't deal with life as it is.

Favorited...


I hope you have him farkied as patriarchy that perpetuates traditional gender roles!

Really now, assuming that women care more about looks, and men care more about wealth and power?

That's so last century.
 
2013-12-12 11:54:05 PM
voristrupp:
I don't expect HER to invest all her time to publish several peer reviewed papers every year. I don't expect HER to get a patent or do 5 patient care volunteer visits to hospice patients per week.

I guess we all have some priorities qnd achievements,she never will so we should plaster ourselves and tag her on social media asking what her excuse is for not achieving enough. It would be motivational, right?



Yeah, that is a great idea. Every single one of the people that she tagged in that photo and singled out should tag her in photos pointing out her short comings...

You went to school for a long time, we get it.. Maybe if you went one more year you would have learned what "hypocrisy" means, and might not try to shame people for not living to your standard while denouncing that person for doing the same thing to other people...
 
2013-12-12 11:56:49 PM
Sounds like some people have read too many books. My Mom said that.
 
2013-12-12 11:57:04 PM

sendtodave: powhound: Wasn't expecting the need for popcorn. Brb...gotta go see if the wife or daughters will throw some in the microwave for me.

/The Internet has turned some adults into drooling idiots

Are you not entertained?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Is this not why you come here?


I come to Fark for the Rational Discussions! Except for that one tab, that shall not be mentioned.
 
2013-12-12 11:58:05 PM

DrewCurtisJr: voristrupp: I am fit and what's more *I* have a phd and they don't. I think all women should have PhDs or MDs. What's THEIR excuse?

They have bad genes, and aspergers, and adhd, and dyslexia, and somatic symptom disorder.


Hasn't stopped me from doing a PhD.
 
2013-12-12 11:58:12 PM

ZeroCorpse: These pictures are not for men; They're posted solely to be completely biatchy to other women... So I can understand the angry reaction.

And I've also lived long enough to know to stay the hell out of it.


It may not be out of biatchyness. You say you lived long enough to stay out of it, so lets assume you are over 25. How many guys have used the excuse of getting older to let themselves get out of shape? What if a guy who was 45 and in great shape posted a picture on a social media site and said I'm 47 what's your excuse? A 39 year old may find that motivating and decide that it is time to stop making excuses and get in shape.
 
2013-12-12 11:58:42 PM

UGGOS DO NOT DESERVE AN APOLOGY FROM THEIR BETTERS

 
2013-12-12 11:58:55 PM
Women with extra weight are hot. Biological determinism wires men to find them so. Look at ancient fertility figurines. Their shape signals fecundity and stimulates the male urge to procreate.
 
2013-12-12 11:59:40 PM

powhound: sendtodave: powhound: Wasn't expecting the need for popcorn. Brb...gotta go see if the wife or daughters will throw some in the microwave for me.

/The Internet has turned some adults into drooling idiots

Are you not entertained?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Is this not why you come here?

I come to Fark for the Rational Discussions! Except for that one tab, that shall not be mentioned.


The tab that shall not be named keeps Orville Redenbacher in business.
 
2013-12-13 12:00:22 AM

Enemabag Jones: How about shutting the fark up and dealing with the situation.

If you want washboard abs work for it, if you are happy with your life as it is then you don't need to have a dialog about not having a perfect body.

Last time I checked most men don't have to have an article about self-acceptance that they are not wealthy and powerful.  But [some women] need to have self-affirmations that they are ok without the perfect body.

If you want it work for it, if you don't deal with life as it is.


So much this. If seeing someone who is fit makes you feel bad about being fat, then get off your ass and do something about it. If you can accept your fatness and are comfortable with yourself, then good for you. Seeing a fit person won't make you feel bad. Work to overcome your flaws and insecurities, or accept them. Don't make excuses.

Which brings me to irony of all these people making excuses for their fatness in response to a poster asking "What's your excuse?" The poster isn't supposed to shame your fat. It's shaming your excuses. Sure, genetics allow her to be smoking hot after having kids, but if she can be that fit, you can at least reach the point of being "healthy."
 
2013-12-13 12:01:29 AM
Guys, quit acting like peer pressure doesn't work on you too.

Yes, peer pressure works on us - but we recognize that those feelings of inadequacy are our own problem, not Ryan Goslings, and so we don't go around complaining about it.

If people make you feel bad, it doesn't necessarily mean they Did something bad.

Maybe the reason that they made you feel bad was because of you...  So if the problem's yours, then you should be complaining to yourself (improving yourself, resetting your values, etc.etc.), not complaining about other people.
 
2013-12-13 12:01:55 AM

pushcart: Women with extra weight are hot. Biological determinism wires men to find them so. Look at ancient fertility figurines. Their shape signals fecundity and stimulates the male urge to procreate.


The countries with the highest brith rates disagree.
 
2013-12-13 12:03:14 AM
Women aren't supposed to look attractive after they've given birth.

As far as nature is concerned, the good looks have done their job.  These are now be jettisoned in favor of a body more suitable for decades of sustained hard work raising kids.

/ by sucking the life out of their husbands.
 
2013-12-13 12:03:33 AM

sendtodave: Mentalenemasquad: Enemabag Jones: How about shutting the fark up and dealing with the situation.

If you want washboard abs work for it, if you are happy with your life as it is then you don't need to have a dialog about not having a perfect body.

Last time I checked most men don't have to have an article about self-acceptance that they are not wealthy and powerful.  But [some women] need to have self-affirmations that they are ok without the perfect body.

If you want it work for it, if you don't deal with life as it is.

Favorited...

I hope you have him farkied as patriarchy that perpetuates traditional gender roles!

Really now, assuming that women care more about looks, and men care more about wealth and power?

That's so last century.


If you want the reward, do the work. It doesn't matter what century it is. The principle still applies ....
 
2013-12-13 12:04:37 AM

Peki: Laobaojun: Were you trolling or serious?

Sort of. It was my minor. My major was English. Lots of cross over though, so I probably could have double-majored if I'd wanted to. *shrug*

And yeah. Lots of reading. Lots and lots of reading.

/Butler, Wittig, Feinstein, Iriguary, Kessler, and classics like Steinem, MacKinnon and Daly


Nice! You know how to use The Google!  LOL

May I suggest some women writers from the 19th century? You'd be surprised. But you do "lots and lots of reading." Heh. Nope, not giving you a reading list. And I've got a Ph.D. Saw a LOT of you young, oh-so-serious women in my classes, to my everlasting despair. :-/

"Lots and lots of reading." So how did that translate to you being a "feminist" in the post-20th century? If you were even born then?

I suspect that, at usual, 99% of those who claim feminist "credentials" are those who read "Lots and lots." And never understood the driving force behind what we stood for, at our own peril, who challenged the status quo and made a very small change in our society.

Seriously, what have you done, as a "feminist," to change society?

Oh. I see. Nothing. And since this was about women getting fat during and after childbirth....many are claiming "OMG, I have a thyroid problem (which 90% of women DO NOT HAVE)" I guess we must part company here and I'll go grade some papers.

And my partner, who is looking over my shoulder, just said, "Why do you even try?"

I looked back at him and said, "If not me, who else?"

Do not trust the Google. If you are serious about "Womyn's" studies, let me know and I'll send you some links. But I've got a class of 30 who needs my attention, and you're just a phantom on the 'Tubes, a phantom who doesn't give us feminists a good name.

Back to the topic:

If you get fat, and blame it on the baby, you don't get to call yourself a feminist. You should care more about your body. And your partner. And the baby. That is all.
 
2013-12-13 12:05:05 AM

sendtodave: powhound: sendtodave: powhound: Wasn't expecting the need for popcorn. Brb...gotta go see if the wife or daughters will throw some in the microwave for me.

/The Internet has turned some adults into drooling idiots

Are you not entertained?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Is this not why you come here?

I come to Fark for the Rational Discussions! Except for that one tab, that shall not be mentioned.

The tab that shall not be named keeps Orville Redenbacher in business.


Somebody should do an article about this and post it in the Business tab.
 
2013-12-13 12:05:27 AM

theMightyRegeya: Laobaojun: Anne.Uumellmahaye: This is the first time I've ever seen this image, I'm sorry that I feel no rage for you to be outraged about.

I also don't think it tells women to plop a kid out and immediately head for the treadmill so they can be sexy again. That's not a particularly sexy picture. She's hot, but she's also surrounded by toddlers. Get fit to be fit. If it makes you feel sexy, well then bonus. If you feel unsexy because you're not fit, either work on your physical fitness or work on your mental fitness. Either way, that's your issue, not hers.

This too.
As a guy who is fighting genetics, I sympathize, but surrender is lame.  Fit is sexy, but fit is also fit.  I have never heard of someone who was fit, but didn't feel sexy. Anorexic is not fit, and low BMI with no muscle tone is not fit, and it really does not take that much time out of your week to stay fit.
If this photo made you feel bad, get off your butt, cut the portions down, and stop feeling unfit.

And if you check out her website, she explains why she's physically fit.

For someone who says she's a feminist, that poster is awfully judgemental.

And honestly, when I see a horde of people complaining about people bragging about physical fitness, the horde never shames men, it's always women!  Even feminists shame women for it now!  I guess body shaming's okay if you do the mental gymnastics to say that physically fit women==appeasing the patriarchy and that physically fit women==body-shaming people who aren't physically fit...


Never shames men? Are you serious, or do you have memory issues?

Off of the top of my head, look at Val Kilmer and Axl Rose. Both have gotten chubby, and both get mocked because of it.
 
2013-12-13 12:07:26 AM

DebinCO: Seriously, what have you done, as a "feminist," to change society?


You obviously didn't read anything else I posted.

DebinCO: If you get fat, and blame it on the baby, you don't get to call yourself a feminist. You should care more about your body. And your partner. And the baby. That is all.


Not fat, don't have a baby, my fiance is awesome and didn't say shiat about my weight even when I was obese.

Any other conclusions you'd like to jump to?

And the only one of the names I googled was MacKinnon to make sure I spelled it right. Gyn/Ecology was one of my favorite works.
 
2013-12-13 12:08:15 AM

powhound: sendtodave: powhound: Wasn't expecting the need for popcorn. Brb...gotta go see if the wife or daughters will throw some in the microwave for me.

/The Internet has turned some adults into drooling idiots

Are you not entertained?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Is this not why you come here?

I come to Fark for the Rational Discussions! Except for that one tab, that shall not be mentioned.


Foobies tab?
 
2013-12-13 12:09:28 AM

pushcart: Women with extra weight are hot. Biological determinism wires men to find them so. Look at ancient fertility figurines. Their shape signals fecundity and stimulates the male urge to procreate.


www.sbicamerica.com  4.bp.blogspot.com

/gotta get me some of that sweet, sweet fecundity...
 
2013-12-13 12:09:34 AM

Dr Jack Badofsky: powhound: sendtodave: powhound: Wasn't expecting the need for popcorn. Brb...gotta go see if the wife or daughters will throw some in the microwave for me.

/The Internet has turned some adults into drooling idiots

Are you not entertained?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Is this not why you come here?

I come to Fark for the Rational Discussions! Except for that one tab, that shall not be mentioned.

Foobies tab?


Orville sells hand lotion now?
 
2013-12-13 12:10:38 AM
Now watch. Next thing she'll pick out is that Gyn/Ecology was by Daly, not MacKinnon.

/even though I didn't actually say that
//and she'll miss this post
 
2013-12-13 12:13:58 AM

Peki: DebinCO: Seriously, what have you done, as a "feminist," to change society?

You obviously didn't read anything else I posted.

DebinCO: If you get fat, and blame it on the baby, you don't get to call yourself a feminist. You should care more about your body. And your partner. And the baby. That is all.

Not fat, don't have a baby, my fiance is awesome and didn't say shiat about my weight even when I was obese.

Any other conclusions you'd like to jump to?

And the only one of the names I googled was MacKinnon to make sure I spelled it right. Gyn/Ecology was one of my favorite works.


Just LOL.
 
2013-12-13 12:14:58 AM
See 'ya. I have a real job.
 
2013-12-13 12:15:11 AM

DebinCO: Peki: DebinCO: Seriously, what have you done, as a "feminist," to change society?

You obviously didn't read anything else I posted.

DebinCO: If you get fat, and blame it on the baby, you don't get to call yourself a feminist. You should care more about your body. And your partner. And the baby. That is all.

Not fat, don't have a baby, my fiance is awesome and didn't say shiat about my weight even when I was obese.

Any other conclusions you'd like to jump to?

And the only one of the names I googled was MacKinnon to make sure I spelled it right. Gyn/Ecology was one of my favorite works.

Just LOL.


Seriously? I'd rather work together. We're supposed to be on the same damn side.
 
2013-12-13 12:15:55 AM

Danger Avoid Death: Fathym: Gergesa: sendtodave: voristrupp: I am fit and what's more *I* have a phd and they don't. I think all women should have PhDs or MDs. What's THEIR excuse?

Oh, you mean everybody doesn't share MY priorities in life?

But you would say that, with hard work and determination, anyone could get a phd, right?

You will probably need money or a scholarship also.

And maybe a little intelligence?

How little? I might qualify.


Average will do, sometimes less. My ~ 30 co-candidates were generally in two groups, 1) highly intelligent and rational, and 2) brain-meltingly moronic (particularly that one young earth creationist geneticist). Not many fell in between, but both groups had similar pass rates. What both both groups possessed was a will do endure the PhD no matter what. Persistence (hard work and determination?) is more important than intellect for attaining a PhD. Money and scholarship? Well, with enough persistance you will eventually find them too.
 
2013-12-13 12:16:49 AM
"They make women jealous and feel bad about themselves"

... umm, that's the reason women do everything.
 
2013-12-13 12:18:48 AM

Peki: Gyn/Ecology was one of my favorite works.


??
doblelol.com
 
2013-12-13 12:18:54 AM

sendtodave: Dr Jack Badofsky: powhound: sendtodave: powhound: Wasn't expecting the need for popcorn. Brb...gotta go see if the wife or daughters will throw some in the microwave for me.

/The Internet has turned some adults into drooling idiots

Are you not entertained?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Is this not why you come here?

I come to Fark for the Rational Discussions! Except for that one tab, that shall not be mentioned.

Foobies tab?

Orville sells hand lotion now?


Pssst!  Extra Butter flavor.
 
2013-12-13 12:19:41 AM

FizixJunkee: They have bad genes, and aspergers, and adhd, and dyslexia, and somatic symptom disorder.

Hasn't stopped me from doing a PhD.


Yes but you see I have stage II aspergers.
 
2013-12-13 12:20:06 AM
Lame farkin thread. I was expecting pics...and lots of them, you know chicks and skin and boobs and curves and such.

Instead, one smoking hot milf and something bumbledfarked, whatever....

/dnrtfa
//now where will I look
///farkin innernet
 
2013-12-13 12:20:21 AM

DrewCurtisJr: FizixJunkee: They have bad genes, and aspergers, and adhd, and dyslexia, and somatic symptom disorder.

Hasn't stopped me from doing a PhD.

Yes but you see I have stage II aspergers.


Have you tried chickens?
 
2013-12-13 12:21:56 AM
Hearing "What's your excuse for being fat?" from the wife of a soccer star who can spend the day at home working out sounds pretty much exactly like Mitt Romney telling the poor that they need to get an education or start a business by borrowing money from their parents. There's just a massive amount of ignorance that comes off as smugness, or vice versa, that ignores the reality a lot of people face. That kind of inconsiderate attitude can most definitely draw anger, but there's just enough truth behind the comment to be defensible.
That said, shaming is never a good motivator, whether it be shaming the viewer directly or shaming their actions, it's still a negative form of encouragement. There are better ways that could have been phrased that wouldn't have provoked anywhere near as much ire.
 
2013-12-13 12:22:28 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Have you tried chickens?


Can't, I also have poultry intolerance syndrome.
 
2013-12-13 12:23:42 AM

bojon: From the pics, it appears that these women have ambitions of a job in show business. I do not see many tubbies in the movies.


Yeah, too many people look at these women and think they are rich and famous - they can afford to stay in shape. Instead, they should think how these women have to stay in shape to maintain their lifestyle. Young starlet diet? Day one: zero balance checking account.
 
2013-12-13 12:25:35 AM
LiberalConservative:
Average will do, sometimes less. My ~ 30 co-candidates were generally in two groups, 1) highly intelligent and rational, and 2) brain-meltingly moronic (particularly that one young earth creationist geneticist). Not many fell in between, but both groups had similar pass rates. What both both groups possessed was a will do endure the PhD no matter what. Persistence (hard work and determination?) is more important than intellect for attaining a PhD. Money and scholarship? Well, with enough persistance you will eventually find them too.


You didn't get your PhD in physics, did you?

The "dumbest" physicist I know probably has an IQ in the 100-110 range which, by physics standards, is quite low.  The guy didn't graduate from a top tier school, either.   However, he did work his butt off to graduate, and still works his butt off as a research scientist (he got lucky and chose a "hot field" for which there were ample post doc and research opportunities).   Frankly, he must put that much effort into his work to be any good at it...it just takes him longer to "get" stuff than it does his colleagues/competitors.

I respect that guy a lot and even consider him a friend.  But I seriously doubt he'll ever make significant contributions in his field, even with all the effort he puts into it.

In summary,

1. Persistence and hard work are required to get a PhD, but that doesn't mean they'll be enough to succeed in science once you have your PhD;

2. The smarter you are, the less hard work you have to put into your PhD to graduate.
 
2013-12-13 12:25:52 AM
sendtodave
I hope you have him farkied as patriarchy that perpetuates traditional gender roles!
Really now, assuming that women care more about looks, and men care more about wealth and power?
That's so last century.

It could be and I hope it is last century.
 
2013-12-13 12:26:29 AM

sendtodave: Women's self esteem is based on how another woman looks?


Absolutely.
 
2013-12-13 12:26:54 AM

DrewCurtisJr: ZeroCorpse: These pictures are not for men; They're posted solely to be completely biatchy to other women... So I can understand the angry reaction.

And I've also lived long enough to know to stay the hell out of it.

It may not be out of biatchyness. You say you lived long enough to stay out of it, so lets assume you are over 25. How many guys have used the excuse of getting older to let themselves get out of shape? What if a guy who was 45 and in great shape posted a picture on a social media site and said I'm 47 what's your excuse? A 39 year old may find that motivating and decide that it is time to stop making excuses and get in shape.


I'm in my 40s. I'm not fat, but I'll never be built like Hugh Jackman. I accept that. I wish I could be rid of my spare tire, but it's not bad, all things considered, and my girl is supportive and thinks I'm attractive, so as long as she's happy, I can live with how I look.

And that's what it really comes down to. If someone is post-pregnancy, then I assume they're probably partnered already, and they're probably with someone who loves them. While it's nice to try to look good for your significant other, you also have to keep things in perspective: If they're happy with you (happy enough to raise kids with you) then who are you trying to impress with sexy pictures, or the desire to live up to other peoples' sexy pictures?

I contend that the people who make this a big deal are generally kind of vapid and self-absorbed. This is a Type-A personality sort of thing. This is narcissism. This does not affect me.

I'm not in competition with other guys. I have the love of my life, and she's happy with me the way I am. That is all that matter to me.

Frankly, I don't understand why that isn't all that matters to the women who take these show-off pics. Clearly, they're trying to piss people off, because I can't imagine they're trying to get other men interested in them since they're supposedly happily married. The only answer is that they're doing it to be biatchy. They're doing it to run their "awesome life" in the faces of other people... And that's biatchy.
 
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