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2013-12-12 08:32:44 PM  
This is one of several reasons I'm horrified when selfish assholes suggest parents give their babies Benadryl to knock them out so they won't cry when flying. It doesn't take much to overdose when the child is very young since their bodies don't metabolize medications the same as an older child, teen or adult would.
 
2013-12-12 08:42:52 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: This is one of several reasons I'm horrified when selfish assholes suggest parents give their babies Benadryl to knock them out so they won't cry when flying. It doesn't take much to overdose when the child is very young since their bodies don't metabolize medications the same as an older child, teen or adult would.


my father was a pediatrician and used to do this to us kids all the time when travelling, and it never resulted in any drain bamgage
 
2013-12-12 09:02:55 PM  
He just didn't want to listen to your shiat. It works well as a sedative. He also knew how much was too much.

**click**

Oh yeah, and the tylenol rotted its liver out.Don't give any medication to a six month old FFS.

Rot in hell, biatch.
 
2013-12-12 09:08:34 PM  
Were this young couple rich? No? Then lucky this guy didn't succeed with his plan to personally go Galt.

If you have any issues then read the Fountainhead.
 
2013-12-12 09:19:41 PM  
Yes, dumbassmitter, you can overdose on Benadryl.
 
2013-12-12 09:25:53 PM  
Benedryl is some serious f*cking shiat. Histamines are a vital part of the body, especially when it comes to brain function. That's why when you take Benedryl you'll often get sleepy and feel weird.

High doses of Benedryl can kill people (For an adult it has to be VERY high, probably more than a 16-pack, but don't try it.) Probably toxic to the liver too.

You can go to Erowid if you want to see the weird stories on it.

Tylenol is another drug you can pretty easily OD on.
 
2013-12-12 09:29:27 PM  
Jesus.

That's not a good death.
 
2013-12-12 09:43:41 PM  
I took Benadryl, well the drug that's in Benadryl, the name on the box said Unisom. One night I took four of them hoping it would knock me out.

I was tense as hell, writhing around in my sheets trying to get comfortable. It sucked goat balls.
 
2013-12-12 09:45:18 PM  

jaylectricity: I took Benadryl, well the drug that's in Benadryl, the name on the box said Unisom. One night I took four of them hoping it would knock me out.

I was tense as hell, writhing around in my sheets trying to get comfortable. It sucked goat balls.


Benedryl blocks your parasympathetic nervous system. So yeah. That's why.
 
2013-12-12 10:25:31 PM  

hardinparamedic: jaylectricity: I took Benadryl, well the drug that's in Benadryl, the name on the box said Unisom. One night I took four of them hoping it would knock me out.

I was tense as hell, writhing around in my sheets trying to get comfortable. It sucked goat balls.

Benedryl blocks your parasympathetic nervous system. So yeah. That's why.


I'm not sure how that makes sense. Mostly because I'm not well-versed. But it seems that blocking the sympathetic nervous system would be the one to cause it. Because the need for an immediate response to my tension would be blocked, therefore I'd just be suffering through whatever tweaks my body was experience.

Or are you saying that eventually body would react to the tension in whatever way necessary, but since the PNS is blocked it builds up until its unbearable?

OK, now I'm just confusing myself.
 
2013-12-12 10:30:20 PM  

Nabb1: Yes, dumbassmitter, you can overdose on Benadryl.


Hell, you can kill yourself drinking too much farking water.
 
2013-12-12 10:38:16 PM  

Tax Boy: Bathia_Mapes: This is one of several reasons I'm horrified when selfish assholes suggest parents give their babies Benadryl to knock them out so they won't cry when flying. It doesn't take much to overdose when the child is very young since their bodies don't metabolize medications the same as an older child, teen or adult would.

my father was a pediatrician and used to do this to us kids all the time when travelling, and it never resulted in any drain bamgage



Our pediatrician was very firm about not giving a child medicine unless he needs it, travel plans be damned.  Maybe newer doctors are better informed.
 
2013-12-12 10:40:20 PM  
My pediatrician had a saying, "Benadryl is better than child abuse".  Smart, smart lady.
 
2013-12-12 10:42:45 PM  
Diphenhydramine is the worst drug in the universe. I tried to trip on it once and nope,nope,nope. Too wild,too out there and it just scared the shiat out of me. I used to do combos of dxm/dph until the dph started making me paranoid. Nothing good to be had with that shiat. That poor baby.
 
2013-12-12 10:43:05 PM  
I once took four benadryl, then took another four because I forgot the first four. I was hallucinating that the ceiling was writhing, and while I did finally get to sleep I woke up having scratched my arms till they were bloody. That wasn't a good night. So yes, you can take too much benadryl.
 
2013-12-12 10:43:30 PM  

jaylectricity: hardinparamedic: jaylectricity: I took Benadryl, well the drug that's in Benadryl, the name on the box said Unisom. One night I took four of them hoping it would knock me out.

I was tense as hell, writhing around in my sheets trying to get comfortable. It sucked goat balls.

Benedryl blocks your parasympathetic nervous system. So yeah. That's why.

I'm not sure how that makes sense. Mostly because I'm not well-versed. But it seems that blocking the sympathetic nervous system would be the one to cause it. Because the need for an immediate response to my tension would be blocked, therefore I'd just be suffering through whatever tweaks my body was experience.

Or are you saying that eventually body would react to the tension in whatever way necessary, but since the PNS is blocked it builds up until its unbearable?

OK, now I'm just confusing myself.


Yeah, there's something in Benadryl (unisom) that makes you twitchy.  My wife suggested it to help me sleep through a rough toothache that came on way after dinner.  I felt like I was on speed.  The exact opposite of what she thought would happen happened.
 
2013-12-12 10:43:37 PM  

FizixJunkee: Tax Boy: Bathia_Mapes: This is one of several reasons I'm horrified when selfish assholes suggest parents give their babies Benadryl to knock them out so they won't cry when flying. It doesn't take much to overdose when the child is very young since their bodies don't metabolize medications the same as an older child, teen or adult would.

my father was a pediatrician and used to do this to us kids all the time when travelling, and it never resulted in any drain bamgage


Our pediatrician was very firm about not giving a child medicine unless he needs it, travel plans be damned.  Maybe newer doctors are better informed.


Our as well. Actually,  I don't think any modern pediatrician would suggest giving a child a drug for convenience sake. It's pretty farking negligent. But get it... drain bamgage? :)
 
2013-12-12 10:44:45 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: This is one of several reasons I'm horrified when selfish assholes suggest parents give their babies Benadryl to knock them out so they won't cry when flying. It doesn't take much to overdose when the child is very young since their bodies don't metabolize medications the same as an older child, teen or adult would.


Pft. A hundred years ago, a woman would give her kids opium to knock them out while she left the one-room apartment to work her 16-hour shift painting radium on clock hands. Human race survived.

People today are farking pussies.
 
2013-12-12 10:45:19 PM  
Am I the only one who noticed that she gave the infant a massive dose of Benadryl AND TYLENOL???
 
2013-12-12 10:46:09 PM  
Another reason to avoid giving kids Benadryl on a trip - some kids will have a paradoxical reaction and completely flip their shiat until they metabolize the drug off.
 
2013-12-12 10:46:20 PM  
Infants can overdose on quite a lot of things. They're small. A 10 lb human. The Average American is about 180 lbs. So if you give them an adult dose of whatever, you're giving them 18 times the dose that you're getting. Give them half the dose, and you're still giving them 9 times what you're getting. Quarter? Still 4.5 times. That's a lot. Add to that that infants are a lot more sensitive in general... yeah. Its not hard to see where dumbass parents with no conception of dosage could get into trouble.
 
2013-12-12 10:47:22 PM  

Tax Boy: Bathia_Mapes: This is one of several reasons I'm horrified when selfish assholes suggest parents give their babies Benadryl to knock them out so they won't cry when flying. It doesn't take much to overdose when the child is very young since their bodies don't metabolize medications the same as an older child, teen or adult would.

my father was a pediatrician and used to do this to us kids all the time when travelling, and it never resulted in any drain bamgage


Well holy shiat you mean there is a difference between a teaspoon and an entire bottle?
 
2013-12-12 10:47:59 PM  
I'm just glad she didn't have an abortion.
 
2013-12-12 10:49:10 PM  

cptjeff: Infants can overdose on quite a lot of things. They're small. A 10 lb human. The Average American is about 180 lbs. So if you give them an adult dose of whatever, you're giving them 18 times the dose that you're getting. Give them half the dose, and you're still giving them 9 times what you're getting. Quarter? Still 4.5 times. That's a lot. Add to that that infants are a lot more sensitive in general... yeah. Its not hard to see where dumbass parents with no conception of dosage could get into trouble.


Darwin
 
2013-12-12 10:49:43 PM  
Infants can overdose on a lot of shiat an adult or child would have to suffocate themselves in to die from.  They have like 5 to 10% of the mass of an adult and their immune system and body chemistry are hyperactive as all hell, because they're doubling in size every few months.

The other side of that is that babies are as close to immune to disease as human beings get (which is why you need to seek a doctor immediately if it  is sick, since the exceptions can be deadly real fast).  So they've got that going for them.
 
2013-12-12 10:50:48 PM  

jaylectricity: I took Benadryl, well the drug that's in Benadryl, the name on the box said Unisom. One night I took four of them hoping it would knock me out.

I was tense as hell, writhing around in my sheets trying to get comfortable. It sucked goat balls.


Ha ha goat balls!
 
2013-12-12 10:55:47 PM  
I'm not sure if y'all have seen, but according to this article you can disolve 1.1kg of cocaine in one liter of water.  And unfortunately, they did that with pear juice, it got loose into retail maybe, and someone died.

/lots of people who died and died, they were all my friends and they died
 
2013-12-12 10:57:23 PM  
The highest I've been in years was when I was roasting coffee the other day. I think I lingered too long in the vapor trail.

I'm pretty sure jets don't fly as low, loud or often as they did there for a while. I was a babbling (out loud) idiot.
 
2013-12-12 11:00:01 PM  
I'm pretty sure the whole "teething" thing is a myth.

Dosing my mini-me is common sense.  I mean they have idiot proof syringes now.  It doesn't take much.

Perhaps babby had an ear infection?  Those suck.  Teething is nothing.
 
2013-12-12 11:02:21 PM  
Still one more overdose death than cannabis ever caused.
 
2013-12-12 11:02:30 PM  
"She told me the reason she gave him the Benadryl and Tylenol was because he was teething and he was teething."

Teething and teething?  That's, like, twice as bad as just teething
 
2013-12-12 11:02:39 PM  

jaylectricity: hardinparamedic: jaylectricity: I took Benadryl, well the drug that's in Benadryl, the name on the box said Unisom. One night I took four of them hoping it would knock me out.

I was tense as hell, writhing around in my sheets trying to get comfortable. It sucked goat balls.

Benedryl blocks your parasympathetic nervous system. So yeah. That's why.

I'm not sure how that makes sense. Mostly because I'm not well-versed. But it seems that blocking the sympathetic nervous system would be the one to cause it. Because the need for an immediate response to my tension would be blocked, therefore I'd just be suffering through whatever tweaks my body was experience.

Or are you saying that eventually body would react to the tension in whatever way necessary, but since the PNS is blocked it builds up until its unbearable?

OK, now I'm just confusing myself.


Without getting into details, your sympathetic nervous system is responsible for the "fight or flight" response, while the parasympathetic nervous system is responsible for putting your body at rest.   With your parasympathetic nervous system suppressed you would have increased heart rate and your digestive track would slow down significantly, while also potentially making you feel like you need to pee.
 
2013-12-12 11:02:48 PM  

jaylectricity: hardinparamedic: jaylectricity: I took Benadryl, well the drug that's in Benadryl, the name on the box said Unisom. One night I took four of them hoping it would knock me out.

I was tense as hell, writhing around in my sheets trying to get comfortable. It sucked goat balls.

Benedryl blocks your parasympathetic nervous system. So yeah. That's why.

I'm not sure how that makes sense. Mostly because I'm not well-versed. But it seems that blocking the sympathetic nervous system would be the one to cause it. Because the need for an immediate response to my tension would be blocked, therefore I'd just be suffering through whatever tweaks my body was experience.

Or are you saying that eventually body would react to the tension in whatever way necessary, but since the PNS is blocked it builds up until its unbearable?

OK, now I'm just confusing myself.



Are you ADD? Seriously people who actually are ADD react to some chemicals differently. Stimulants are often depressants and depressants can be stimulants. Ritilin chills out ADD kids but is a stimulant to regular people for instance. If you suspect your kid is ADD give them a cup of coffee. If they get wired and act crazy you need to beat their ass more.If they go take a nap then take them to a doctor.
 
2013-12-12 11:04:04 PM  
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"Benadryl--the seven-dollar babysitter. [...] Aww, it's so cute when she sleeps with her eyes open. Wh-what? Why are you whispering? She's not going to wake up..."

--Christopher Titus, "The Fifth Annual End of the World Tour"
 
2013-12-12 11:07:04 PM  

r1niceboy: I once took four benadryl, then took another four because I forgot the first four. I was hallucinating that the ceiling was writhing, and while I did finally get to sleep I woke up having scratched my arms till they were bloody. That wasn't a good night. So yes, you can take too much benadryl.


The night after a bad breakup, I could not sleep so I took a couple of them, then a couple more when I still could not sleep...then another one a little later. Between being so upset over the breakup and the mass quantities of Benadryl, I did not sleep for a day and a half. Never again will I do that - I thought I was going crazy...
 
2013-12-12 11:07:44 PM  

Bonobo62: "She told me the reason she gave him the Benadryl and Tylenol was because he was teething and he was teething."

Teething and teething?  That's, like, twice as bad as just teething


He had more than one tooth coming in. Otherwise he would have been toothing.
 
2013-12-12 11:08:01 PM  

A Terrible Human: Diphenhydramine is the worst drug in the universe. I tried to trip on it once and nope,nope,nope. Too wild,too out there and it just scared the shiat out of me. I used to do combos of dxm/dph until the dph started making me paranoid. Nothing good to be had with that shiat. That poor baby.


Years ago NyQuil had both.  It had alcohol, tylenol, dph, dxm, AND Psuedoephedrine.  They took out the dph many years ago and then the psuedoephedrine went when the whole meth issues started with otc drugs.  So when people talk about how strong NyQuil is, imagine adding two Benydryl and a couple pills of Sudafed.  That and the alcohol concentration used to be 25% (50 proof) not the current 10%.  Basically NyQuil in the 70s would drop you like a bad habit.
 
2013-12-12 11:08:40 PM  

hardinparamedic: jaylectricity: I took Benadryl, well the drug that's in Benadryl, the name on the box said Unisom. One night I took four of them hoping it would knock me out.

I was tense as hell, writhing around in my sheets trying to get comfortable. It sucked goat balls.

Benedryl blocks your parasympathetic nervous system. So yeah. That's why.


I think you have your anti-cholinergics confused with your anti-histamines.
 
2013-12-12 11:09:24 PM  
This is the bad side of late night emergency room residency.
 
2013-12-12 11:11:01 PM  
This surprises people? Have you ever taken two Benedryl? It's like cheap acid.
 
2013-12-12 11:13:24 PM  

Digitalstrange: If you suspect your kid is ADD give them a cup of coffee. If they get wired and act crazy you need to beat their ass more.If they go take a nap then take them to a doctor.


Or a Starbucks.
 
2013-12-12 11:15:42 PM  

brandent: A Terrible Human: Diphenhydramine is the worst drug in the universe. I tried to trip on it once and nope,nope,nope. Too wild,too out there and it just scared the shiat out of me. I used to do combos of dxm/dph until the dph started making me paranoid. Nothing good to be had with that shiat. That poor baby.

Years ago NyQuil had both.  It had alcohol, tylenol, dph, dxm, AND Psuedoephedrine.  They took out the dph many years ago and then the psuedoephedrine went when the whole meth issues started with otc drugs.  So when people talk about how strong NyQuil is, imagine adding two Benydryl and a couple pills of Sudafed.  That and the alcohol concentration used to be 25% (50 proof) not the current 10%.  Basically NyQuil in the 70s would drop you like a bad habit.


Which is exactly what you wanted when the front of your face felt like it was trying to explode and your nose was running so bad you couldn't read a book even with kleenex shoved in it.
 
2013-12-12 11:16:09 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: This is one of several reasons I'm horrified when selfish assholes suggest parents give their babies Benadryl to knock them out so they won't cry when flying. It doesn't take much to overdose when the child is very young since their bodies don't metabolize medications the same as an older child, teen or adult would.


My friend who's a doctor suggested we give my 1 1/2 year old a tiny dose to knock him out on the flight to Britain. I couldn't do it. Too terrified about stories like this.

/most miserable farking flight of my life.
 
2013-12-12 11:16:28 PM  

Fallout Boy: hardinparamedic: jaylectricity: I took Benadryl, well the drug that's in Benadryl, the name on the box said Unisom. One night I took four of them hoping it would knock me out.

I was tense as hell, writhing around in my sheets trying to get comfortable. It sucked goat balls.

Benedryl blocks your parasympathetic nervous system. So yeah. That's why.

I think you have your anti-cholinergics confused with your anti-histamines.


Diphenhydramine has anti-cholinergic properties. It also has sedative properties. Really, it's a crazy strong drug and you shouldn't fark around with it or give it to a child.
 
2013-12-12 11:17:45 PM  

ski9600: I'm not sure if y'all have seen, but according to this article you can disolve 1.1kg of cocaine in one liter of water.  And unfortunately, they did that with pear juice, it got loose into retail maybe, and someone died.

/lots of people who died and died, they were all my friends and they died


Best way to cross borders with the stuff. Dissolve it, run it through a Britta pitcher into a water bottle, evaporate back into powder.

Friend of mine got 10 years this way.
 
2013-12-12 11:19:07 PM  
Proper dose for Benadryl is supposed to be 1mg/kg of body weight.  OD on it can be, and mostly is, brutal.  Causes vastly increased heart rate, seizures, horrible scratching.  Really a bad trip for those who think they are going to get a good high.  Worst part is, there really isn't anything to reverse it, except for some Ativan of course...
 
2013-12-12 11:20:56 PM  
I took 32 Benadryl in high school and had a hallucination of a friend of mine coming into my room and conversing with me that was so real that I didn't realize it was a hallucination until a day or two later after I asked him about something we had talked about then. That's the only time in my life I ever had a visual hallucination and didn't realize I was hallucinating. And this conversation was totally normal and went on for like half an hour before he left, and there was nothing unusual at all except for the fact that it was all fake and I was borked on deliriants.
 
2013-12-12 11:22:06 PM  

SymphonyXtasy: Fallout Boy: hardinparamedic: jaylectricity: I took Benadryl, well the drug that's in Benadryl, the name on the box said Unisom. One night I took four of them hoping it would knock me out.

I was tense as hell, writhing around in my sheets trying to get comfortable. It sucked goat balls.

Benedryl blocks your parasympathetic nervous system. So yeah. That's why.

I think you have your anti-cholinergics confused with your anti-histamines.

Diphenhydramine has anti-cholinergic properties. It also has sedative properties. Really, it's a crazy strong drug and you shouldn't fark around with it or give it to a child.


You just counter it with diazepam, Then counter that with Flumazenil, Then counter that with Chinese needle snakes.
 
2013-12-12 11:24:24 PM  

Koalaesq: Bathia_Mapes: This is one of several reasons I'm horrified when selfish assholes suggest parents give their babies Benadryl to knock them out so they won't cry when flying. It doesn't take much to overdose when the child is very young since their bodies don't metabolize medications the same as an older child, teen or adult would.

My friend who's a doctor suggested we give my 1 1/2 year old a tiny dose to knock him out on the flight to Britain. I couldn't do it. Too terrified about stories like this.

/most miserable farking flight of my life.


Our pediatrician rec'd a half-teaspoon dose of children's benadryl for my 15 month old for her first flight (only a few hours). We didn't feel compelled on the trip out, but caved in when she was having an exceptionally tough time on the trip back home. She didn't sleep, but instead took on a thousand-yard stare and didn't really respond to us for a few hours. Pretty unsettling from a parent's POV.
 
2013-12-12 11:25:35 PM  
Suckmaster Burstingfoam:  ...to work her 16-hour shift painting radium on clock hands. Human race survived.

And, those babies could always find mommy in the dark.  Win/Win.
 
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