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(International Business Times)   Today in FFS: British politicians are getting an 11% pay rise, while public sector workers are capped at 1%   (ibtimes.co.uk) divider line 70
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2013-12-12 03:05:55 PM

Moopy Mac: Cold_Sassy: Same shiat, different country.

"By law, Congress obtains an annual automatic pay adjustment, equivalent to the prior year's average private sector wage change. However, the raise can't be a higher percentage than for other federal employees."

Congress has voted to decline these increases the last several years (and in a couple of those years federal employees did not receive any living adjustment). I do not believe Congress has received a cost of living raise since 2009.


With the job they have been doing they deserve nothing less then annual pay cuts.
 
2013-12-12 03:18:55 PM
They earn something like 70K pounds. I'd say a pay rise is in order.
 
2013-12-12 03:26:04 PM

SDRR: Moopy Mac: Cold_Sassy: Same shiat, different country.

"By law, Congress obtains an annual automatic pay adjustment, equivalent to the prior year's average private sector wage change. However, the raise can't be a higher percentage than for other federal employees."

Congress has voted to decline these increases the last several years (and in a couple of those years federal employees did not receive any living adjustment). I do not believe Congress has received a cost of living raise since 2009.

Are you saying that like it's a bad thing?

I think we need a payscale tied to performance, you know like teachers.


If remuneration for congressmen were tied to performance, we'd have to set them all on fire.
 
2013-12-12 03:36:14 PM
What the fark is this farkery?
 
2013-12-12 03:38:38 PM
Great success of socialism goose steps forward.
 
2013-12-12 03:53:29 PM

durbnpoisn: God_Almighty_Himself: durbnpoisn: This is my view on it.  You know how to solve all of our political problems?  Remove all financial gain from being a politician.  No gifts.  No salaries.  Then you would only see people who actually CARE about the job doing the job.  And they would actually do it.

I suppose that's your plan for making sure teachers REALLY want to teach and do a good job.  Or any other public servant...

Apples and oranges.  Teachers aren't elected.  They also don't get to vote on their own salary.  (The union says they have a vote, but it's not the same thing.)  They also don't get perks in the form of gifts.


If I had lots more money, and was good looking, and popular, I would run for public office, and this would be one of my campaign promises.

But I realize that there would be no way in hell I would ever get elected. And that makes me extremely sad for this country ):
 
2013-12-12 04:17:06 PM

durbnpoisn: Teachers aren't elected. They also don't get to vote on their own salary. (The union says they have a vote, but it's not the same thing.) They also don't get perks in the form of gifts.


No...teacher perks come in other forms...

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2013-12-12 04:22:17 PM

SirEattonHogg: Hey, repairs on the Jaguar ain't cheap, nor is the standard Savile row suit.


They have decent prices on suits right now... $400 isn't expensive for a suit.
 
2013-12-12 04:23:24 PM

Coming on a Bicycle: They earn something like 70K pounds. I'd say a pay rise is in order.


70k pounds is like double real money. They make enough.
 
2013-12-12 04:34:01 PM

SirEattonHogg: Farking amateurs in the west.  An 11% raise?  Hell, just steal what you need.


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Not to excuse corruption or pork barrel by American or UK politicians, but these guys have 83 billionaires in their Congress. The US has zero.   Source: http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-07/world/37519848_1_billio n aires-zong-qinghou-hurun-report

They don't need to vote to raise their salaries.


Wow . . . that is atrocious.  Corruption at it's core.
 
2013-12-12 05:21:47 PM
But if you ask for a rise
It's no surprise
They're giving none away...
Away...
Away...
 
2013-12-12 05:28:38 PM
If British MPs have any shred of decency they would all refuse to accept the pay increase, but that's a big if...
 
2013-12-12 06:15:12 PM

ukexpat: If British MPs have any shred of decency


I'm gonna stop you right there...
 
2013-12-12 06:28:44 PM

MyEnamine: Everyone should get an annual pay increase equal to inflation.


Ever hear of a feedback loop?
 
2013-12-12 07:04:34 PM

FarkinNortherner: SirEattonHogg: Hey, repairs on the Jaguar ain't cheap, nor is the standard Savile row suit.

To be fair, I'm relatively sure Parliament's most famous Jag driver thinks Savile Row is something to do with elderly paedophiles.


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What John 'Two Jags' Prescott might look like


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Don't even mention honours.
 
2013-12-12 07:27:25 PM

durbnpoisn: I'd love to think that this only happens in Britian.

This is my view on it.  You know how to solve all of our political problems?  Remove all financial gain from being a politician.  No gifts.  No salaries.  Then you would only see people who actually CARE about the job doing the job.  And they would actually do it.

But since that's never going to happen, there really is nothing to discuss.


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There's an easy way to i) dilute the effect of the corrupt ones on the system by making their votes worthless, and ii) dilute the effect of the people "lobbying" (cough, paying off) politicians.

Increase the number of senators and representatives by a factor of 10000.

BigPharm can wine and dine 100 senators.  They can't wine and dine 1,000,000 senators.  Similarly, when 1,000,000 people are voting on a bill, 100 money-influenced votes don't matter.
 
2013-12-12 08:58:25 PM
If what you are told is that MPs will receive an 11% pay rise, while proles suffer a pay freeze or minimal increases; yeah, that's pretty outrageous.

But, I've heard the guy from Ipsa making his case, and what he says seems pretty sensible to me.

The basic rate for an MP is on the order of £66000 (US$108000). That does not seem to reflect the responsibility of representing your constituents in parliament, when you consider that doctors and lawyers, perhaps even at less senior levels are paid more.

I've not read Ipsa's recommendations in full, but I understand that MP's expenses and pensions will be cut, so, the net effect is that the labour bill for parliament is the same. And I think it's this that they're worried about. They can make a massive public display about their basic salary increase, making it look like they're worried about their public perception, while they're a bunch of self-interested twunts.

/2015's slim Labour majority should at least be a lot less twuntish than Dave and his oiks, at least.
 
2013-12-12 09:37:14 PM

toraque: SDRR: Moopy Mac: Cold_Sassy: Same shiat, different country.

"By law, Congress obtains an annual automatic pay adjustment, equivalent to the prior year's average private sector wage change. However, the raise can't be a higher percentage than for other federal employees."

Congress has voted to decline these increases the last several years (and in a couple of those years federal employees did not receive any living adjustment). I do not believe Congress has received a cost of living raise since 2009.

Are you saying that like it's a bad thing?

I think we need a payscale tied to performance, you know like teachers.

If remuneration for congressmen were tied to performance, we'd have to set them all on fire.



Are you saying that like it's a bad thing?
 
2013-12-13 12:28:00 AM
The day the US government only gives themselves a measly 11% raise ... sheesh.
 
2013-12-13 08:29:30 AM

ukexpat: If British MPs have any shred of decency they would all refuse to accept the pay increase, but that's a big if...


They can't. The increase is set by an independent body and there is no mechanism for them to reject it. What they could do is donate it to charity.
 
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