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2013-12-12 10:32:16 AM
Auburn's NC formula:
1.  Find a juco quarterback who was kicked off another SEC team for stealing
2.  Enroll in August, assuring at least 1 semester eligibility
3.  Profit.
 
2013-12-12 10:53:27 AM
April 20, 2013: Auburn spring game sets records
Spring football practice at Auburn culminates with a record-setting game late in April. The Tigers had the most popular, most-attended spring game in the nation, hosting a record 83,401 people at Jordan-Hare Stadium.

This is a very misleading statement. The game just happened to coincide with Auburn's annual stick-your-dick-in-a-chicken day, which every year draws more people than any other event at the college.
 
2013-12-12 11:01:27 AM
It's a damn shame Auburn beat Georgia. If they had lost that, then even their win over 'Bama wouldn't have won the division. And we'd again have Alabama going to the national championship without winning their division because SEC.
 
2013-12-12 11:03:57 AM
Read elsewhere there's a handful of people that have 1000:1 odds for them winning the national championship. One guy put out a twitter pic of his $50 bet ticket at 500:1.
 
2013-12-12 11:09:45 AM
They're going to get killed by FSU. Reality is a harsh mistress, and her lessons are not kind. Ask Notre Dame.
 
2013-12-12 11:14:35 AM

RminusQ: It's a damn shame Auburn beat Georgia. If they had lost that, then even their win over 'Bama wouldn't have won the division. And we'd again have Alabama going to the national championship without winning their division because SEC.


Well, it would be a tough game for Florida St. They've never beaten Alabama.

But then, Alabama has never beaten Rice.
Rice has never beaten Oklahoma.
Oklahoma has never beaten BYU.
BYU has never beaten Florida St.

I say we settle it with a 5-way battle to the death.

/yes, I've looked this up. For every damn team in FBS.
 
2013-12-12 11:28:42 AM

rcf1105: They're going to get killed by FSU. Reality is a harsh mistress, and her lessons are not kind. Ask Notre Dame.


Yeah because FSU has played some real competition this year like Wake Forest, Idaho, Syracuse, Florida.  Their toughest opponent was Clemson who just got blown out by South Carolina.
 
2013-12-12 11:40:04 AM

baufan2005: rcf1105: They're going to get killed by FSU. Reality is a harsh mistress, and her lessons are not kind. Ask Notre Dame.

Yeah because FSU has played some real competition this year like Wake Forest, Idaho, Syracuse, Florida.  Their toughest opponent was Clemson who just got blown out by South Carolina.


Clemson Clemson'd themselves ROYALLY in the fourth quarter with turnovers.  Until then they were dead even with USCe.  Additionally, they beat a fully healthy UGA at the beginning of the season.  Auburn was gifted a win from an injured UGA at the end of the season.

The schedules aren't that different, and FSU performed much better than Auburn on the field and on the scoreboard.  Additionally Auburns offense is incredibly one dimensional and they are going up against the 2nd best Rush Defense in the country who have a month to watch tape and strategize.  In contrast Auburn has one of the WORST secondaries in the country going up against the 2nd? best pass offense in the nation, and a rush offense that is top 5.

Good luck.
 
2013-12-12 11:48:10 AM
Did George Lucas coach Auburn then?
 
2013-12-12 12:17:24 PM

rcf1105: They're going to get killed by FSU. Reality is a harsh mistress, and her lessons are not kind. Ask Notre Dame.


I farking hope so.

Wicked Chinchilla: Additionally, they beat a fully healthy UGA at the beginning of the season.


Thats not entirely true, they lost their leading receiver the first TD and others were out that game for injuries.

That being said, UGA should have beaten shiatty auburn, when I heard the coaches say "we didnt think to tell the DSs to knock down the ball down" I wanted to strangle them, when you took that farking time out the first thing you should say is "DBs, its farking 4th down, dont catch it knock it into the ground! If you try to catch it youre walking back to athens"
 
2013-12-12 12:45:53 PM

Gosling: RminusQ: It's a damn shame Auburn beat Georgia. If they had lost that, then even their win over 'Bama wouldn't have won the division. And we'd again have Alabama going to the national championship without winning their division because SEC.

Well, it would be a tough game for Florida St. They've never beaten Alabama.

But then, Alabama has never beaten Rice.
Rice has never beaten Oklahoma.
Oklahoma has never beaten BYU.
BYU has never beaten Florida St.

I say we settle it with a 5-way battle to the death.

/yes, I've looked this up. For every damn team in FBS.


I know, I already facebook commented. Were you inspired by Duke losing to Florida St for infinity-th time?
 
2013-12-12 12:53:26 PM

RminusQ: It's a damn shame Auburn beat Georgia. If they had lost that, then even their win over 'Bama wouldn't have won the division. And we'd again have Alabama going to the national championship without winning their division because SEC.


If Auburn lost to Georgia, then Alabama would have won their division and would be playing in the NCG, no?
 
2013-12-12 01:15:37 PM

steamingpile: rcf1105: They're going to get killed by FSU. Reality is a harsh mistress, and her lessons are not kind. Ask Notre Dame.

I farking hope so.

Wicked Chinchilla: Additionally, they beat a fully healthy UGA at the beginning of the season.

Thats not entirely true, they lost their leading receiver the first TD and others were out that game for injuries.

That being said, UGA should have beaten shiatty auburn, when I heard the coaches say "we didnt think to tell the DSs to knock down the ball down" I wanted to strangle them, when you took that farking time out the first thing you should say is "DBs, its farking 4th down, dont catch it knock it into the ground! If you try to catch it youre walking back to athens"


Full disclosure, I'm an Auburn fan.  Now that's out of the way, I've watched that play repeatedly and I don't think we'll ever know for sure that the Georgia players WEREN'T trying to knock the ball down.  The ball hits the player in the hand as he is stretching out for the ball, to me it doesn't look like he was beginning a catching motion OR a knocking down motion yet when it bounces off his hands.
 
2013-12-12 01:30:47 PM

llortcM_yllort: RminusQ: It's a damn shame Auburn beat Georgia. If they had lost that, then even their win over 'Bama wouldn't have won the division. And we'd again have Alabama going to the national championship without winning their division because SEC.

If Auburn lost to Georgia, then Alabama would have won their division and would be playing in the NCG, no?


Assuming that they beat Missouri (which they almost certainly would have done), yes
 
2013-12-12 01:37:14 PM
It's funny that this is the worst representative the SEC has sent to the BCS National Championship game in the last eight or nine years and it might still be a close game.

I've already requested Tuesday, January 7th off of work.  I hope I'm nursing a hangover of joy and not of misery.  I suspect there will be a lot of cases of the flu that day in Tallahassee.
 
2013-12-12 01:55:23 PM
Betting against Auburn would be nuts. Anyone whose played real poker tournaments knows that luck is a powerful and dangerous force. Luck can carry you a long way in spite of bad play. Auburn's luck will catch up with them eventually. As in next season.
 
2013-12-12 02:25:41 PM

ClintBartonWannabe: Full disclosure, I'm an Auburn fan. Now that's out of the way, I've watched that play repeatedly and I don't think we'll ever know for sure that the Georgia players WEREN'T trying to knock the ball down. The ball hits the player in the hand as he is stretching out for the ball, to me it doesn't look like he was beginning a catching motion OR a knocking down motion yet when it bounces off his hands.


I watched him all year and he was trying to catch it, you can tell because his hands were turned up instead of down or just facing the line, which is why the ball popped up in the air, really irrelevant though since the quote was from Richt about not telling them just to knock the ball down which should have been done during the time out.

FLMountainMan: It's funny that this is the worst representative the SEC has sent to the BCS National Championship game in the last eight or nine years and it might still be a close game.


Wait werent you all talking about how FSU was going to pound whoever they play? It farking better not be close, I want auburn run out of the building and humiliated so bad the rest of us in the SEC can make fun of them for a decade.
 
2013-12-12 02:26:43 PM

llortcM_yllort: RminusQ: It's a damn shame Auburn beat Georgia. If they had lost that, then even their win over 'Bama wouldn't have won the division. And we'd again have Alabama going to the national championship without winning their division because SEC.

If Auburn lost to Georgia, then Alabama would have won their division and would be playing in the NCG, no?


Yeah I'm talking out my ass, I think.
 
2013-12-12 02:32:19 PM

Cat Food Sandwiches: Auburn's NC formula:
1.  Find a juco quarterback who was kicked off another SEC team for stealing
2.  Enroll in August, assuring at least 1 semester eligibility
3.  Profit.


That's shockingly accurate.
 
2013-12-12 03:08:46 PM

steamingpile: FLMountainMan: It's funny that this is the worst representative the SEC has sent to the BCS National Championship game in the last eight or nine years and it might still be a close game.

Wait werent you all talking about how FSU was going to pound whoever they play? It farking better not be close, I want auburn run out of the building and humiliated so bad the rest of us in the SEC can make fun of them for a decade.


No, I wasn't saying that.  Never have, actually.  Few fans who stuck with the team during the lost decade talk like that - the cynicism is too ingrained at this point.  You really need to stop projecting onto people.  This is like the third post this week.  Really, I like a lot of your SEC trash talk, but please stop the "homosaywhat" schtick.
 
2013-12-12 03:17:35 PM

Gosling: Well, it would be a tough game for Florida St. They've never beaten Alabama.


Maybe I am misunderstanding something, but FSU is 1-2-1 against Alabama.
 
2013-12-12 03:23:31 PM

TheYeti: Gosling: Well, it would be a tough game for Florida St. They've never beaten Alabama.

Maybe I am misunderstanding something, but FSU is 1-2-1 against Alabama.


0-2-1
http://www.winsipedia.com/florida-state/vs/alabama
 
2013-12-12 04:10:09 PM

Wicked Chinchilla: baufan2005: rcf1105: They're going to get killed by FSU. Reality is a harsh mistress, and her lessons are not kind. Ask Notre Dame.

Yeah because FSU has played some real competition this year like Wake Forest, Idaho, Syracuse, Florida.  Their toughest opponent was Clemson who just got blown out by South Carolina.

Clemson Clemson'd themselves ROYALLY in the fourth quarter with turnovers.  Until then they were dead even with USCe.  Additionally, they beat a fully healthy UGA at the beginning of the season.  Auburn was gifted a win from an injured UGA at the end of the season.

The schedules aren't that different, and FSU performed much better than Auburn on the field and on the scoreboard.  Additionally Auburns offense is incredibly one dimensional and they are going up against the 2nd best Rush Defense in the country who have a month to watch tape and strategize.  In contrast Auburn has one of the WORST secondaries in the country going up against the 2nd? best pass offense in the nation, and a rush offense that is top 5.

Good luck.


If bama couldn't stop Au from running all over them I'm not concerned with Fsu. Missouri had a better Defense than the semenoles. That is they had one before Tre Mason got a hold of them.
 
2013-12-12 04:38:11 PM

Wicked Chinchilla: The schedules aren't that different, and FSU performed much better than Auburn on the field and on the scoreboard. Additionally Auburns offense is incredibly one dimensional and they are going up against the 2nd best Rush Defense in the country who have a month to watch tape and strategize. In contrast Auburn has one of the WORST secondaries in the country going up against the 2nd? best pass offense in the nation, and a rush offense that is top 5.

Good luck.


Alabama and Mizzou thought this as well.  Not saying Auburn is going to win, but if we play mistake free it is going to be close.
 
2013-12-12 05:44:56 PM

Gosling: Well, it would be a tough game for Florida St. They've never beaten Alabama.


Because their history in the 60s/70s is relevant to today?  Are you the guy who keeps voting for Notre Dame to be in BCS bowls?
 
2013-12-12 05:50:29 PM
Wicked Chinchilla:The schedules aren't that different

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Additionally Auburns offense is incredibly one dimensional and they are going up against the 2nd best Rush Defense in the country who have a month to watch tape and strategize.  In contrast Auburn has one of the WORST secondaries in the country going up against the 2nd? best pass offense in the nation, and a rush offense that is top 5.

I keep hearing this argument and it seems to come from people who don't understand that FSU's stats were built by playing mostly teams like Wake Forest and Syracuse. Any halfway decent team is going to have top offensive and defensive rankings if they play almost exclusively against cream puffs.

I honestly can't say which way the game will go (and I'm laughing at anybody who says they do) because FSU hasn't played anybody worth a damn except for Clemson (who's well known for Clemsoning).

Personally, I hope FSU gets wiped off the board if only to further legitimize strength of schedule considerations when considering rankings.
 
2013-12-12 09:27:03 PM

RminusQ: I know, I already facebook commented. Were you inspired by Duke losing to Florida St for infinity-th time?


No, by a previous thread when I was looking up Troy's head-to-heads.
 
2013-12-12 09:32:34 PM
And while I'm here... lol at Louisiana-Lafayette (winless in 22 attempts vs. LSU) and San Diego St. (ditto against UCLA).

Michigan got off light, meanwhile; they've recorded wins against everybody they've played more than once.
 
2013-12-13 01:10:47 AM

Tyrone Biggums: Wicked Chinchilla: The schedules aren't that different, and FSU performed much better than Auburn on the field and on the scoreboard. Additionally Auburns offense is incredibly one dimensional and they are going up against the 2nd best Rush Defense in the country who have a month to watch tape and strategize. In contrast Auburn has one of the WORST secondaries in the country going up against the 2nd? best pass offense in the nation, and a rush offense that is top 5.

Good luck.

Alabama and Mizzou thought this as well.  Not saying Auburn is going to win, but if we play mistake free it is going to be close.


Auburn's offense is really one dimensional, and it doesn't matter because they run it really really well.  Mizzou made all sorts of defensive adjustments in that game and Auburn compensated for them all.  Mizzou ran the 4-3, the 4-2-5, the 3-3-5.  They dropped their LB's back so they could better read the runner, they moved their LB's up to clog the gaps and force the runner to the outside.  They held back to defend against the play action and cheated on the run daring Auburn to throw.  Every adjustment they made would work for two or three plays before Auburn adjusted, at which point they would push the no-huddle, forcing Mizzou to remain in their defense.  Mizzou knew exactly what they were going to do on offense and still couldn't stop them because Auburn's execution is exceptional.
 
2013-12-13 01:52:44 AM
Let's just put it this way:

If FSU had lost, it would have been two SEC teams playing for the national title. Again. No matter WHAT happened in the SEC Championship game, or any other games (given the OSU loss and the theoretical FSU loss), it was a guarantee.

The BCS should be investigated for racketeering. This is f*cking absurd.
 
2013-12-13 02:08:10 AM

Mentat: Auburn's offense is really one dimensional, and it doesn't matter because they run it really really well. Mizzou made all sorts of defensive adjustments in that game and Auburn compensated for them all. Mizzou ran the 4-3, the 4-2-5, the 3-3-5. They dropped their LB's back so they could better read the runner, they moved their LB's up to clog the gaps and force the runner to the outside. They held back to defend against the play action and cheated on the run daring Auburn to throw. Every adjustment they made would work for two or three plays before Auburn adjusted, at which point they would push the no-huddle, forcing Mizzou to remain in their defense. Mizzou knew exactly what they were going to do on offense and still couldn't stop them because Auburn's execution is exceptional.


The problem is Mizzou didnt stop the run almost all year, you know who did? UGA and you know who else? LSU, one beat them and another should have beat them except for a fluke play.

You know who is above both of them? FSU. You know who held Clemson to fewer rushing yards this year? FSU.

puffy999: If FSU had lost, it would have been two SEC teams playing for the national title. Again. No matter WHAT happened in the SEC Championship game, or any other games (given the OSU loss and the theoretical FSU loss), it was a guarantee.


Just whine because the pac12 was shut out yet again, if stanford or oregone hadnt had lost badly they would still be considered, when you lose that bad they drop out of consideration like Clemson did after getting smacked.
 
2013-12-13 02:47:31 AM

Gosling: RminusQ: It's a damn shame Auburn beat Georgia. If they had lost that, then even their win over 'Bama wouldn't have won the division. And we'd again have Alabama going to the national championship without winning their division because SEC.

Well, it would be a tough game for Florida St. They've never beaten Alabama.

But then, Alabama has never beaten Rice.
Rice has never beaten Oklahoma.
Oklahoma has never beaten BYU.
BYU has never beaten Florida St.

I say we settle it with a 5-way battle to the death.

/yes, I've looked this up. For every damn team in FBS.


You must have seen, then, that Notre Dame lost to Carnegie-Mellon.
 
2013-12-13 02:57:44 AM

BlazeTrailer: You must have seen, then, that Notre Dame lost to Carnegie-Mellon.


I was looking specifically for the most attempts on a currently-active team without a win. For Notre Dame, that turned out to be the University of Chicago, who they're 0-4 against. Notre Dame is 15-4 all time against Carnegie Mellon.

Carnegie Mellon, however, does show up as one of the schools charged to Georgia Tech, who has two winless attempts against them (as well as Arizona, Fresno St. and Utah).
 
2013-12-13 06:59:40 AM

Gosling: RminusQ: It's a damn shame Auburn beat Georgia. If they had lost that, then even their win over 'Bama wouldn't have won the division. And we'd again have Alabama going to the national championship without winning their division because SEC.

Well, it would be a tough game for Florida St. They've never beaten Alabama.

But then, Alabama has never beaten Rice.
Rice has never beaten Oklahoma.
Oklahoma has never beaten BYU.
BYU has never beaten Florida St.

I say we settle it with a 5-way battle to the death.

/yes, I've looked this up. For every damn team in FBS.


FSU beat Alabama (Saban lead) last time they played.
 
2013-12-13 07:03:00 AM
FYI - FSU vs UA 2007, FSU won by seven

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?id=272720052
 
2013-12-13 07:49:02 AM

steamingpile: The problem is Mizzou didnt stop the run almost all year, you know who did? UGA and you know who else? LSU, one beat them and another should have beat them except for a fluke play.

You know who is above both of them? FSU. You know who held Clemson to fewer rushing yards this year? FSU.


In base formation, I'm not sure FSU is all that much better against the run.  (Note:  Haven't watched a lot of LSU.  I'm just assuming based on what LSU typically fields on the DL.)  Not that any small difference should matter much, since LSU and UGA won and should've won, respectively.

Bama's biggest problems in that game were its secondary and its offense.  Not having Sunseri and Clinton-Dix took away their ability to walk up a safety.  FSU's advantage should be that its corners and safeties will allow them to do that when needed.  And still, like UGA, they should've won.

From what I saw, Mizzou played far too aggressively against the Barn's running game.  And they were less-and-less disciplined as the game wore on.  That's a recipe for disaster against teams like Auburn.

Other problem for Auburn offensively is that FSU is built to fight spread offenses.  Auburn is stylistically similar, albeit more run-heavy, to Clemson (but without Boyd and Watkins).

On the other side, unless Winston has some kind of meltdown, it's tough for me to see Auburn's secondary stopping FSU's passing game.  And doing so probably means the running game is wide open.  That's why I thought FSU was a better match for Bama than Oregon the whole time.  If FSU takes away the run, it's hard for me to see Marshall beating Winston in a passing contest.

None of that is to say the Barners couldn't win, but, on paper at least, it doesn't look like a good match-up for them.  I wouldn't be at all surprised to see The Gus pull a fair amount of trick plays.
 
2013-12-13 08:04:01 AM

steamingpile: The problem is Mizzou didnt stop the run almost all year, you know who did? UGA and you know who else? LSU, one beat them and another should have beat them except for a fluke play.

You know who is above both of them? FSU. You know who held Clemson to fewer rushing yards this year? FSU.


...adding:

Never mind, LSU ranks in the 50s against the run.  (What the hell happened there?  Did they lose their entire front seven or something?)  FSU's was a bit better than UGA (5 vs 23) per the advanced stats.
 
2013-12-13 08:37:33 AM

OfficeLife: FYI - FSU vs UA 2007, FSU won by seven

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?id=272720052


Looking at Gosling's link, that game is apparently vacated? That shiat opens a whole bag of worms.
 
2013-12-13 08:48:22 AM

OfficeLife: Gosling: RminusQ: It's a damn shame Auburn beat Georgia. If they had lost that, then even their win over 'Bama wouldn't have won the division. And we'd again have Alabama going to the national championship without winning their division because SEC.

Well, it would be a tough game for Florida St. They've never beaten Alabama.

But then, Alabama has never beaten Rice.
Rice has never beaten Oklahoma.
Oklahoma has never beaten BYU.
BYU has never beaten Florida St.

I say we settle it with a 5-way battle to the death.

/yes, I've looked this up. For every damn team in FBS.

FSU beat Alabama (Saban lead) last time they played.


I wouldn't count Sabans first year since bama was coming off a shiatty era, it was great I kind of hope he leaves to let bama get back to the shiatty times.
 
2013-12-13 09:08:15 AM

steamingpile: when you lose that bad they drop out of consideration like Clemson did after getting smacked.


Unless you're in the SEC.  Then the circular reasoning proving how tough the conference is kicks in.
 
2013-12-13 09:15:18 AM
The funny thing is that this was supposed to be a down year for FSU.
 
2013-12-13 10:08:55 AM

steamingpile: The problem is Mizzou didnt stop the run almost all year, you know who did? UGA and you know who else? LSU, one beat them and another should have beat them except for a fluke play.


Excluding the Auburn game, Mizzou gave up 1429 rushing yards and 11 rushing TD's on 400 attempts, for 3.57 ypc.  Mizzou was murder in the red zone in most of those games, often stuffing teams on 3rd and 4th down.  The most rushing yards they gave up was 184 to A&M.  They were fine all year against the rush, but they've never been very good against triple option based offenses that are good at disguising the ball carrier.
 
2013-12-13 10:46:25 AM

OfficeLife: FYI - FSU vs UA 2007, FSU won by seven

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?id=272720052


Winsipedia scores that game as 'vacated' in favor of Alabama.
 
2013-12-13 10:58:37 AM

steamingpile: The problem is Mizzou didnt stop the run almost all year, you know who did? UGA and you know who else? LSU, one beat them and another should have beat them except for a fluke play.

You know who is above both of them? FSU. You know who held Clemson to fewer rushing yards this year? FSU.


You know what team is better against the run than FSU? Bama.  And Auburn still rang up almost 300 rushing yards against them.

And a few first down conversions in the fourth quarter and UGA would not have been in that game.  And a few early mistakes doomed Auburn in the LSU game.

Again, not saying we will win against FSU.  We need to play mistake free and somehow take Winston out of the game (figuratively speaking of course) and I think it is a good game.
 
2013-12-13 11:13:24 AM

Gosling: OfficeLife: FYI - FSU vs UA 2007, FSU won by seven

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?id=272720052

Winsipedia scores that game as 'vacated' in favor of Alabama.


That's right.  The academic cheating scandal that FSU self-reported and involved a few players and that the NCAA ruled the administration knew nothing about, but still vacated wins for.  FSU will never self-report anything ever again.
 
2013-12-13 01:00:10 PM

Blathering Idjut: Unless you're in the SEC. Then the circular reasoning proving how tough the conference is kicks in.


No, its why you get smacked is when you drop, like clemson did, bama lost on a stupid play which is why they didnt drop or lose to an unranked team, do either one of those and you drop far.

Mentat: The most rushing yards they gave up was 184 to A&M.


And the 3rd most was to UGA, what do the top 2 have? Mobile/running QBs which is extremely hard on defenses that cant cover one on one, like FSU can do.

Tyrone Biggums: You know what team is better against the run than FSU? Bama. And Auburn still rang up almost 300 rushing yards against them.

And a few first down conversions in the fourth quarter and UGA would not have been in that game. And a few early mistakes doomed Auburn in the LSU game.


And without a fumble the refs missed or the pass they ruled incomplete the game wouldnt have been that out of control so quickly, lets not act like auburn imposed their will against them, again it was having to worry about the mobile QB that doomed UGA because of not being able to cover one on one in the secondary. Same with bama, their CBs arent as good as last year so shiat happens, auburns secondary is not good enough to deal with a QB that can throw and run the ball. It looks like a loss on paper and a bad loss but I guess we will see how long Gus can ride this luck train.........
 
2013-12-13 02:06:53 PM
Wow did anyone else see the press conference by the accusers attorney in the Winston case? She is farking insane basically alleging that this is a cover up so large even the cell phone provider is in on it.
 
2013-12-13 06:30:41 PM

steamingpile: Wow did anyone else see the press conference by the accusers attorney in the Winston case? She is farking insane basically alleging that this is a cover up so large even the cell phone provider is in on it.


I didn't see it, but I saw Bud Elliott from SB Nation was tweeting on it.

I work with lawyers all day in a law enforcement capacity.  I've seen some really stupid lawyers.  This one crosses the line from merely awful to quite possibly insane.

She asked why the medical reports contained redacted stuff.  The answer was, of course, HIPAA, which she was apparently unfamiliar with.

She insisted they never cut off contact with TPD this whole time. Then today she admitted cutting off contact because they were afraid ofTPD. I'm not sure which one it is.

She continued suggesting the accuser was drugged despite the testing, because a "big black guy" gave her a shot. She insinuated the tox tests were bullshiat, so apparently UF is now helping the TPD cover up sex crimes for FSU football players. That or someone needs to call the Princeton Review and redo the rankings, because apparently FSU football players are better chemists than UF doctors.

Then she insisted the boyfriend's DNA on the shorts and the anal swab were irrelevant because it happened 5+ days before the incident, despite telling investigators before that the shorts were irrelevant because the accuser and her friend share clothes (which her friend denied).  (I can say with near-certainly the 5+ claim is false.)

It only devolved into more conspiracy theory from there.

Basically, she said everybody's lying except the accuser.

She may just be the worst lawyer ever.
 
2013-12-13 06:39:27 PM

steamingpile: Wow did anyone else see the press conference by the accusers attorney in the Winston case? She is farking insane basically alleging that this is a cover up so large even the cell phone provider is in on it.


Oh, and my personal favorite (as a bureaucrat):  Demanding an investigation from Pam Bondi, the Florida AG.  Who doesn't have jurisdiction over Willie Meggs and TPD (that would be FDLE, which is under Rick Scott).

Quality lawyerin'.
 
2013-12-13 07:43:50 PM

RickyWilliams'sBong: steamingpile: Wow did anyone else see the press conference by the accusers attorney in the Winston case? She is farking insane basically alleging that this is a cover up so large even the cell phone provider is in on it.

I didn't see it, but I saw Bud Elliott from SB Nation was tweeting on it.

I work with lawyers all day in a law enforcement capacity.  I've seen some really stupid lawyers.  This one crosses the line from merely awful to quite possibly insane.

She asked why the medical reports contained redacted stuff.  The answer was, of course, HIPAA, which she was apparently unfamiliar with.

She insisted they never cut off contact with TPD this whole time. Then today she admitted cutting off contact because they were afraid ofTPD. I'm not sure which one it is.

She continued suggesting the accuser was drugged despite the testing, because a "big black guy" gave her a shot. She insinuated the tox tests were bullshiat, so apparently UF is now helping the TPD cover up sex crimes for FSU football players. That or someone needs to call the Princeton Review and redo the rankings, because apparently FSU football players are better chemists than UF doctors.

Then she insisted the boyfriend's DNA on the shorts and the anal swab were irrelevant because it happened 5+ days before the incident, despite telling investigators before that the shorts were irrelevant because the accuser and her friend share clothes (which her friend denied).  (I can say with near-certainly the 5+ claim is false.)

It only devolved into more conspiracy theory from there.

Basically, she said everybody's lying except the accuser.

She may just be the worst lawyer ever.


Ooooooorrrr this is the biggest conspiracy since nine-hundred eleventy! And Kennedy as well!!!!!!

That lawyer may need to be forcibly committed, its no wonder the cops didnt want to talk to her, you're taught to avoid crazy when growing up.
 
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