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(NPR)   If you eat food that had parents, it alters your gut bacteria significantly and quickly   (npr.org) divider line 99
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2013-12-12 08:41:54 AM
I still love bacon.
 
2013-12-12 08:45:30 AM
Aside from honey, which is regurgitated plant semen, is there anything we eat that DIDN'T have parents?  Modern bananas, maybe, since they're all clone cuttings of each other?  Seedless fruits?
 
2013-12-12 08:45:49 AM
That's why I only eat orphans.
 
2013-12-12 08:46:25 AM
9 people in a test isn't enough to make me give up steak.
 
2013-12-12 08:46:54 AM
I'm fairly certain plants have parents....unless we have finally figured out that spontaneous generation thing....
 
2013-12-12 08:47:44 AM
I don't eat anything that has a face.
 
2013-12-12 08:48:06 AM
"One type of bacterium that flourishes under the meat-rich diet has been linked to inflammation and intestinal diseases in mice."

I never eat mice, so I should be fine.
 
2013-12-12 08:49:43 AM
Whatever, I will continue to eat steak and LIKE IT.
 
2013-12-12 08:52:01 AM

Fast Moon: Aside from honey, which is regurgitated plant semen, is there anything we eat that DIDN'T have parents?  Modern bananas, maybe, since they're all clone cuttings of each other?  Seedless fruits?


Flowers also have parents.
 
2013-12-12 08:52:18 AM
It's almost as if your stomach adjusts it's bacteria based on what food it has to digest, imagine that.
 
2013-12-12 08:52:28 AM
manilovefilms.com
 
2013-12-12 08:55:01 AM
Hmm, all living organisms have parents in that they all come from other living organisms. I'd rather not have to start an all-rock diet.
 
2013-12-12 08:56:10 AM

mutterfark:


*tastes like chicken*
 
2013-12-12 08:58:40 AM

gnosis301: I don't eat anything that has a face.


Steaks don't have faces, that would be weird.
 
2013-12-12 08:59:23 AM

ReapTheChaos: It's almost as if your stomach adjusts it's bacteria based on what food it has to digest, imagine that.


You should adjust your apostrophe usage based on what word you actually meant, imagine that.

pkellmey: Hmm, all living organisms have parents in that they all come from other living organisms. I'd rather not have to start an all-rock diet.


Really?

www.ppdictionary.com
 
2013-12-12 09:00:53 AM
So, you're saying that our bodies adapt, and lactose intolerant people need to just bacterium up and quit whining?

Cause Kurt, goddamnit, its not a pizza if it doesn't have farking cheese.
 
2013-12-12 09:01:24 AM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-12-12 09:01:43 AM

gnosis301: I don't eat anything that has a face.


Oh yeah? Well I'm 33rd level Vegan.  I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.
 
2013-12-12 09:01:53 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: ReapTheChaos: It's almost as if your stomach adjusts it's bacteria based on what food it has to digest, imagine that.

You should adjust your apostrophe usage based on what word you actually meant, imagine that.

pkellmey: Hmm, all living organisms have parents in that they all come from other living organisms. I'd rather not have to start an all-rock diet.

Really?

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budding yeast (pictured) have a mother cell and a daughter cell.  just sayin'
 
2013-12-12 09:06:11 AM
I eat only foods that have materialized suddenly out of the ether.

/Earl Grey, hot!
 
2013-12-12 09:07:13 AM

Archae hippy: budding yeast (pictured) have a mother cell and a daughter cell.  just sayin'


Shameless hussies and their fatherless offspring!
 
2013-12-12 09:08:12 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: pkellmey: Hmm, all living organisms have parents in that they all come from other living organisms. I'd rather not have to start an all-rock diet.

Really?


Yep. Unless if you believe that non-living things can spontaneously create living things.
 
2013-12-12 09:09:02 AM

lewismarktwo: gnosis301: I don't eat anything that has a face.

Oh yeah? Well I'm 33rd level Vegan.  I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.


You're dreamy.
shs.osu.edu
 
2013-12-12 09:12:08 AM
So eating a diet that consists ENTIRELY of meat and cheese might not be super healthy? This is truly world-shattering research! Next they should study the merits of an all-beer diet to see if that is healthy. I'm sure they would have no shortage of volunteers, and the results will be shocking!
 
2013-12-12 09:12:18 AM

gnosis301: I don't eat anything that has a face.


My sister has stated that she won't eat anything "in its house", referring to snails and clams.
 
2013-12-12 09:12:32 AM
Honey, let's skip the Donner party this year. I have a gut feeling.
 
2013-12-12 09:15:16 AM

Fast Moon: gnosis301: I don't eat anything that has a face.

My sister has stated that she won't eat anything "in its house", referring to snails and clams.


So her girlfriend is happy?
 
2013-12-12 09:15:23 AM

Carn: Steaks don't have faces, that would be weird.


If you've not eaten beef face you've not lived.
 
2013-12-12 09:15:28 AM
Could possibly be, slight chance of , leaning towards , and possibly heading in the direction of another report that might have in some slight way connected to the agenda of a vegan!
 
2013-12-12 09:16:59 AM

mod3072: So eating a diet that consists ENTIRELY of meat and cheese might not be super healthy? This is truly world-shattering research! Next they should study the merits of an all-beer diet to see if that is healthy. I'm sure they would have no shortage of volunteers, and the results will be shocking!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMwCfTBjLaw
Super Size Me with whiskey  (probably safe for work, language?)
 
2013-12-12 09:17:07 AM

mod3072: So eating a diet that consists ENTIRELY of meat and cheese might not be super healthy?

-- for mice.

 
2013-12-12 09:18:32 AM

pkellmey: Hmm, all living organisms have parents in that they all come from other living organisms. I'd rather not have to start an all-rock diet.


They're not bad, if you don't overcook them.  I like 'em  rare.

i.imgur.com

/Pyura chilensis
// I think that's Latin for "horta"
///or "silacoid", if you prefer XCOM to Starfleet
 
2013-12-12 09:20:10 AM

Fast Moon: Aside from honey, which is regurgitated plant semen, is there anything we eat that DIDN'T have parents?  Modern bananas, maybe, since they're all clone cuttings of each other?  Seedless fruits?


Come on, man, you're, like, screwing up the pathos here.
 
2013-12-12 09:21:27 AM

gnosis301: I don't eat anything that has a face.


Thanks you for your sacrifice.
 
2013-12-12 09:23:03 AM

Millennium: gnosis301: I don't eat anything that has a face.

Thanks you for your sacrifice.


Stupid VeggieTales image. Never mind.
 
2013-12-12 09:23:31 AM
The only thing I got out of this article is I should eat a balanced diet...damn, science is lazy.
 
2013-12-12 09:24:40 AM
If god didn't want us to eat animals, why did she make them out of meat?
 
2013-12-12 09:26:24 AM

Parthenogenetic: Pyura chilensis


Wikipedia says they taste like soap. My older brother had his mouth washed out with soap so many times as a kid, he began to enjoy the taste but I never developed the palate.
 
2013-12-12 09:31:21 AM
Oh FFS another "meeeahhhh, you shouldn't eat meat or animal products" whiner.

Those vegan nitwits need to understand that vegetables are what food eats.

/MOAR BACON!
 
2013-12-12 09:32:32 AM

saadishsnake: The only thing I got out of this article is I should eat a balanced diet...damn, science the mediais lazy.


Don't blame science.  All the scientists said was there was a rapid change in the flora when shifted from an animal-to-plant based diet.  They didn't even make a suggestion that one was worse.  The media then focus on one microbe that thrived in the animal based diet has been linked to inflammation in mice.
 
2013-12-12 09:34:17 AM

Your Hind Brain: If god didn't want us to eat animals, why did she make them out of meat?


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2013-12-12 09:35:30 AM
I'm trying to imagine what sort of education left subby believing that plants don't have parents.

The only "foods" I can think of that don't have parents are minerals, like salt, and waste products, like alcohol. But if you count excreta, then I suppose it's not that much of a stretch to dairy and honey, and if those count, it's a bit of a slippery slope toward fruits and some vegetables.
 
2013-12-12 09:37:35 AM

loki see loki do: So, you're saying that our bodies adapt, and lactose intolerant people need to just bacterium up and quit whining?

Cause Kurt, goddamnit, its not a pizza if it doesn't have farking cheese.


Funny enough, I'm super lactose-intolerant, but cheese is fine, generally. Only "young" cheeses like fresh moz or mascarpone are an issue. As far as I understand, the bacteria eat the lactose in older cheeses, rendering it safe. Any lactose intolerant claiming issues with such cheese might be in error, or is incredibly intolerant.

\Daily factoid?
\\I take pride in knowing what I actually having issues with, dairy wise. I hate that hypochondriac feeling that some people imply, so if I can explain the science, better for all of us.
 
2013-12-12 09:39:22 AM

Archae hippy: The media then focus on one microbe that thrived in the animal based diet has been linked to inflammation in mice.


F*cking carnivorous mice.  They'll get you every time.
 
2013-12-12 09:47:04 AM
I have eaten meat and/or eggs daily for decades, so my bacteria feel right at home now.

I heard some loonie toon on the radio yesterday claiming that carbohydrates will sicken you virtually overnight.  I baked a potato in his honor.
 
2013-12-12 09:56:19 AM

Fast Moon: Aside from honey, which is regurgitated plant semen, is there anything we eat that DIDN'T have parents?  Modern bananas, maybe, since they're all clone cuttings of each other?  Seedless fruits?


Other than eating dirt, every organism ever created comes from a long line of parent organisms going back a billion or more years. DNRTFA, but the headline makes no sense.
 
2013-12-12 10:03:19 AM
I call bullshiat -- have you ever seen a vegan who actually looked healthy?  I've seen anorexics who are healthier than vegans.

The article fails to mention that many of the "bad" bacteria which you don't want large numbers of in your gut thrives on carbohydrates / sugar.  The "extreme diet" they fed these poor people also removed all of the processed crap from their diets.   I'd like to see the results of just removing the processed crap.  I'd imagine you'd find similarly positive results.

/Microbiologist, mad scientist. Angry scientist too.
 
2013-12-12 10:13:01 AM
More bad statistics from a poorly conducted study.  Once again science gets kicked in the nuts.  How amazing that the conclusions pointed towards what the researchers wanted to believe! Not.
 
2013-12-12 10:14:54 AM
Switching to a diet packed with meat and cheese - and very few carbohydrates - alters the trillions of microbes living in the gut, scientists report Wednesday in the journal Nature.

Funny how it has to be a BAD diet for it to work... Jesus, too much of ANY diet is not good.
 
2013-12-12 10:54:02 AM
Nonsense. Most American Indians, early fur trappers and pioneers, Canadian First Nations peoples and Eskimos traditionally ate a diet consisting of mostly animal protien: meat and/or fish. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors ate the same way.

We all evolved as primarily meat eaters. If such a diet was so bad, why didn't humans all die off thousands of years ago?

It's probably that our intestinal flora have changed due to our more modern diets, evolving to try to deal with loads of carbohydrates, and upon going back to a more natural, high protien diet those flora are forced to change again. If you were to change your diet to one consisting of mostly meat, sure, you'll have a slight case of the trots for a day or two but then you'll feel great.
You'll be eating more like you were meant to eat throughout 99% of our kind's existance.

Also the research consisted in part of feeding meat to mice? Herbivores? Really? I bet if some researcher tried feeding some lions salads and carrot sticks for awhile those lions would have some health issues too. Does it follow that fresh veggies are also bad for people?

I'm very skeptical about both the validity of this research and the conclusions that TFA's aurhor seems to be drawing from it.
 
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