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(The Daily Beast)   That handshake with Obama and Castro? Yeah, that was a well-planned troll. And we all took a big bite   (thedailybeast.com ) divider line
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2013-12-12 01:00:06 PM  

trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.


The let me help you out...

 "Why should you shake hands with someone who's keeping Americans in prison? I mean, what's the point? Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler."  - John McCain (R) AZ

"[T]o witness the handshake between Obama and Raúl Castro makes the stomach turn."  -Mona Charen  The National Review

"[W]hen the leader of the free world shakes the bloody hand of a ruthless dictator like Raul Castro, it becomes a propaganda coup for the tyrant."    - Republican Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen

"Dictators Obama and Castro Shake Hands at Communist Funeral" Headline at Conservativebyte.com

Less that 2 minutes clicking.
 
2013-12-12 01:00:10 PM  
I was really hoping that they did it just to see if they can make Ted Cruz collapse on the ground and mouth-foam while he twitches.
 
2013-12-12 01:01:45 PM  

trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.

Look, you can't rewrite history any more than you can move the goalposts. Maybe it's best for you to just move on to the next thread. You made a claim, you got called out on it, you just can't admit being wrong about it.

Rewrite history?  Would you care to show me where I made that claim?  Or will you claim that someone deleted the post?  I'm betting on the latter.


Here's you:

"They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day. "

You're 100% full of shiat, first in that claim and then in your later attempts to say you didn't make that claim.
 
2013-12-12 01:02:05 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.

What would be the point in making a claim like that? It's useless. I haven't seen the 1932 World Series, but I've seen all kinds of articles on it. What's the point of saying that?


Maybe to have a conversation?  Like, somebody walks out and says, "hey, why is everyone running around screaming.  I don't see any reason to be all anxious."  And somebody else says, "Hey, there's a nuclear warhead coming at us."  And so then the running around and screaming gets another participant.  I guarantee you that if there was a thread about 1932 world series someone would be in there saying, "Hey, I saw that" and someone else will be posting, "Hey, I haven't seen that".  It's called expressing your perspective for the purpose of having a conversation.  Something political people are usually incapable of because they are so tightly wrapped everything looks like an argument to them.
 
2013-12-12 01:03:06 PM  
Amazing that people don't realize they're being trolled in a thread about trolling with "troll" in the headline.
 
2013-12-12 01:05:18 PM  

VendorXeno: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.

Look, you can't rewrite history any more than you can move the goalposts. Maybe it's best for you to just move on to the next thread. You made a claim, you got called out on it, you just can't admit being wrong about it.

Rewrite history?  Would you care to show me where I made that claim?  Or will you claim that someone deleted the post?  I'm betting on the latter.

Here's you:

"They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day. "

You're 100% full of shiat, first in that claim and then in your later attempts to say you didn't make that claim.


Are we reading the same thing?  I say "I haven't seen anyone losing their mind over this" and what are you saying?  That I have?  You are going to tell me what I have seen?  You are 200% full of shiat.
 
2013-12-12 01:06:11 PM  

Lord_Baull: Aren't you afraid of hurting your back? You should get someone to help move those goalposts.


Haven't you heard?  They're on wheels now.
 
2013-12-12 01:06:46 PM  

lordjupiter: Amazing that people don't realize they're being trolled in a thread about trolling with "troll" in the headline.


Eh, that line is getting really old. If people are going to say stupid things they deserve to be treated like stupid people, and the tired, "I were just trollin'," excuse shouldn't change that. If people really get off on being called idiots so much that they'll go out of their way to act like idiots, then I figure that's a serious problem with them, not the people who point out they're acting like idiots.
 
2013-12-12 01:07:22 PM  

trappedspirit: Maybe to have a conversation?


That's a stupid way to start a conversation; by accusing your neighbors of being apologists.
 
2013-12-12 01:07:25 PM  

John the Magnificent: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

The let me help you out...

 "Why should you shake hands with someone who's keeping Americans in prison? I mean, what's the point? Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler."  - John McCain (R) AZ

"[T]o witness the handshake between Obama and Raúl Castro makes the stomach turn."  -Mona Charen  The National Review

"[W]hen the leader of the free world shakes the bloody hand of a ruthless dictator like Raul Castro, it becomes a propaganda coup for the tyrant."    - Republican Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen

"Dictators Obama and Castro Shake Hands at Communist Funeral" Headline at Conservativebyte.com

Less that 2 minutes clicking.


Thank you.  I wish those had been links so that I could just click but thank you none the less.
 
2013-12-12 01:07:57 PM  
trappedspirit routinely goes to the water cooler saying "I have yet to see this 9/11 thing happen, but there sure are a lot of apologists!"
 
2013-12-12 01:08:30 PM  

trappedspirit: VendorXeno: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.

Look, you can't rewrite history any more than you can move the goalposts. Maybe it's best for you to just move on to the next thread. You made a claim, you got called out on it, you just can't admit being wrong about it.

Rewrite history?  Would you care to show me where I made that claim?  Or will you claim that someone deleted the post?  I'm betting on the latter.

Here's you:

"They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day. "

You're 100% full of shiat, first in that claim and then in your later attempts to say you didn't make that claim.

Are we reading the same thing?  I say "I haven't seen anyone losing their mind over this" and what are you saying?  That I have?  You are going to tell me what I have seen?  You are 200% full of shiat.


Yeah I'll tell you what you've seen, or what you tried to see, or how you willfully tried to spin a situation that either you were lying about or intentionally remaining ignorant about, one or the other. And then when people called you on it, pointed out examples, etc., your response was to try to deny you said it at all. Not sure what you think is cute or fun about being ignorant, belligerent and dishonest, but trust me, it's not a good way to spend your free time.
 
2013-12-12 01:09:50 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Maybe to have a conversation?

That's a stupid way to start a conversation; by accusing your neighbors of being apologists.


I could see someone getting upset, if 'apologist' described them.
 
2013-12-12 01:10:14 PM  

trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.


So you didn't know about the outrage that was happening, and yet spouted off about it anyway, and yet you take offense when people call you ignorant.  Tell me, was the Inigo Montoya pic you posted earlier directed at yourself?
 
2013-12-12 01:11:00 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit routinely goes to the water cooler saying "I have yet to see this 9/11 thing happen, but there sure are a lot of apologists!"


No, I was actually watching CNN when they broke the news.
 
2013-12-12 01:12:09 PM  

The Muthaship: SpectroBoy: Sounds like your opinion of Obama is sort of like this;

Funny that you got that from my opinion of the media, but ok.


Noooooo.... I got it from you saying (and I quote)  "every dumb ass move this guy makes"

You made it clear you considered "this guy" a maker of many "dumbass moves" and then labeled a completely reasonable thing (shaking hands with a leader we are negotiating with) as on of those dumbass moves.

Read that a few times. You'll see it eventually.
 
2013-12-12 01:13:38 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-12-12 01:14:17 PM  

ElLoco: I don't really keep up with these things... but why is there still an embargo again? I'm assuming there's some sort of at least half-assed reason?


Very simple. If you are running for President and want to win the votes of the South Florida Cubaneros, you must continue the embargo. For the record, the South Florida Cubaneros are THIRD-generation American citizens of the original Cubans who were forced to flee Cuba after it fell to the Castro brothers, Che, and Cienfuegos' revolution. That's it.
 
2013-12-12 01:14:35 PM  

HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.

So you didn't know about the outrage that was happening, and yet spouted off about it anyway, and yet you take offense when people call you ignorant.  Tell me, was the Inigo Montoya pic you posted earlier directed at yourself?


I didn't take offense, Inigo Montoya was not being called "inconceivable" and taking offense at being called that.  That's not how that meme works.
 
2013-12-12 01:16:16 PM  

SpectroBoy: Read that a few times. You'll see it eventually.


So, you inferred that my reasons for thinking he's a dumb ass are insignificant/petty despite my not including any of them, while ignoring the actual point of the post  Well done.
 
2013-12-12 01:16:27 PM  

trappedspirit: HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.

So you didn't know about the outrage that was happening, and yet spouted off about it anyway, and yet you take offense when people call you ignorant.  Tell me, was the Inigo Montoya pic you posted earlier directed at yourself?

I didn't take offense, Inigo Montoya was not being called "inconceivable" and taking offense at being called that.  That's not how that meme works.


I understand that.  I was pointing out that you appear not to know what ignorant means.
 
2013-12-12 01:17:51 PM  

puckrock2000: Franko: An american president shaking hands with a communist?  Inconceivable!

[news.xinhuanet.com image 450x349]

Indeed.

[crimemagazine.com image 295x300]



I think the one thing this photo proves is this: Fidel Castro was the original hipster.
 
2013-12-12 01:18:20 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: Nappy Imus: Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D

You're so convinced of you lib opinions, that you can't even accept as human those who disagree. Sad, really. Luckily libs are not as organised as the Germans otherwise you would no doubt start Holocausting those who do not share stupid lib opinions.


He's like some lib insult generator code run amok
 
2013-12-12 01:18:58 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do


Is this not supposed to be what happens when someone gets mad?  I'm just curious.
 
2013-12-12 01:19:20 PM  

Krieghund: SlothB77: there are Americans in prison in Cuba. Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand

There are Americans in prison in American. Obama's got no business touching himself at night.


There are Americans in prison in virtually every NATO country, so NATO is hereby dissolved.
 
2013-12-12 01:20:16 PM  

stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.


HEY MODS - We have an troll who has admitted to using alts to troll.

Little help here?
 
2013-12-12 01:20:49 PM  

HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.

So you didn't know about the outrage that was happening, and yet spouted off about it anyway, and yet you take offense when people call you ignorant.  Tell me, was the Inigo Montoya pic you posted earlier directed at yourself?

I didn't take offense, Inigo Montoya was not being called "inconceivable" and taking offense at being called that.  That's not how that meme works.

I understand that.  I was pointing out that you appear not to know what ignorant means.


Let me get this straight, you are saying I am ignorant of "ignorant"?  Just because I don't know the definition of a word doesn't mean it loses it's significance.
 
2013-12-12 01:21:57 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.

I couldn't care less about what you do with your alts.  It's just good to see having alts for the sole purpose of trolling is cool now.

Nope, not trolling. The alts are there to provide better lib arguments than actual libs can manage, so that NAME has something to get NAME's teeth into.


t1.gstatic.com


Do you gently weep "libs" in to your pillow wile trying to fall asleep too?
 
2013-12-12 01:22:33 PM  

trappedspirit: Let me get this straight, you are saying I am ignorant of "ignorant"?  Just because I don't know the definition of a word doesn't mean it loses it's significance.


You're definitely coming off as borderline illiterate..
 
2013-12-12 01:26:23 PM  

VendorXeno: Yeah I'll tell you what you've seen, or what you tried to see, or how you willfully tried to spin a situation that either you were lying about or intentionally remaining ignorant about, one or the other. And then when people called you on it, pointed out examples, etc., your response was to try to deny you said it at all. Not sure what you think is cute or fun about being ignorant, belligerent and dishonest, but trust me, it's not a good way to spend your free time.


This is how I know you are full of shiat.  Because it is running out of you and you can not stop it.  Do you know what a biased moron you sound like saying that you are going to tell me what I have seen?
 
2013-12-12 01:27:22 PM  

trappedspirit: HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.

So you didn't know about the outrage that was happening, and yet spouted off about it anyway, and yet you take offense when people call you ignorant.  Tell me, was the Inigo Montoya pic you posted earlier directed at yourself?

I didn't take offense, Inigo Montoya was not being called "inconceivable" and taking offense at being called that.  That's not how that meme works.

I understand that.  I was pointing out that you appear not to know what ignorant means.

Let me get this straight, you are saying I am ignorant of "ignorant"?  Just because I don't know the definition of a word doesn't mean it loses it's significance.


Indeed it doesn't.  And from the way you have behaved in this thread, not only are you ignorant of the fact that the right wing has made a whole tempest out of the teapot that is Obama shaking hands with Castro, but you are, indeed, ignorant of the meaning of the word "ignorant".
 
2013-12-12 01:30:20 PM  
The man is a politician he would shake Satan's hand. Hell, he dines with people who are actually poisoning your air, food, and water and thinks nothing of it.
 
2013-12-12 01:32:30 PM  

trappedspirit: VendorXeno: Yeah I'll tell you what you've seen, or what you tried to see, or how you willfully tried to spin a situation that either you were lying about or intentionally remaining ignorant about, one or the other. And then when people called you on it, pointed out examples, etc., your response was to try to deny you said it at all. Not sure what you think is cute or fun about being ignorant, belligerent and dishonest, but trust me, it's not a good way to spend your free time.

This is how I know you are full of shiat.  Because it is running out of you and you can not stop it.  Do you know what a biased moron you sound like saying that you are going to tell me what I have seen?


Not one at all. It's called induction and deduction, the ability to arrive at conclusions based on evidence and reasoning. I know that these skills are just about anathema to the right, but you can definitely use them to figure out things about other people. That you think you're that utterly inexplicable just demonstrates you're not used to thinking, or being around people who think.  

The faux outrage unleashed from right wing pundits was immediate, well covered and easily accessed. Further, it was status quo, entirely typical and in keeping with the usual behavior from that quarter. Therefor you either saw it or you willfully avoided looking for something you knew probably existed, and instead elected to promote the idea that it didn't exist. There's really no other possible scenario, sorry. I know you think you're spinning a clever lie, but you're not, you're just making yourself look especially stupid.
 
2013-12-12 01:32:50 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Indeed it doesn't.  And from the way you have behaved in this thread, not only are you ignorant of the fact that the right wing has made a whole tempest out of the teapot that is Obama shaking hands with Castro, but you are, indeed, ignorant of the meaning of the word "ignorant".


I think your login makes sense to me now.
 
2013-12-12 01:34:16 PM  

VendorXeno: The faux outrage unleashed from right wing pundits was immediate, well covered and easily accessed. Further, it was status quo, entirely typical and in keeping with the usual behavior from that quarter. Therefor you either saw it or you willfully avoided looking for something you knew probably existed, and instead elected to promote the idea that it didn't exist. There's really no other possible scenario, sorry. I know you think you're spinning a clever lie, but you're not, you're just making yourself look especially stupid.


This X 1000.
 
2013-12-12 01:37:04 PM  
Well he did shake shake John Boehners hand, this shouldn't be surprising.
 
2013-12-12 01:39:12 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.

I couldn't care less about what you do with your alts.  It's just good to see having alts for the sole purpose of trolling is cool now.

Nope, not trolling. The alts are there to provide better lib arguments than actual libs can manage, so that NAME has something to get NAME's teeth into.


You, sir, are no Andy Kaufman.
 
2013-12-12 01:40:05 PM  

VendorXeno: Therefor you either saw it or you willfully avoided looking for something you knew probably existed, and instead elected to promote the idea that it didn't exist. There's really no other possible scenario, sorry. I know you think you're spinning a clever lie, but you're not, you're just making yourself look especially stupid.


I think this is getting no where.  You are one of those people that need to have an argument in order to communicate.  You've found a spot to inject a make believe argument so that you can get your arguing on.  And now you've decided things have to be one of two ways and no way else.  Yet both of them are lies.  Have you stopped beating your wife yet?  Yeah, I get it.  Have I ever suggested that the outrage was none existent?  Doesn't matter.  You keep stuffing that straw in my shirt but I'm not going to be your strawman.
 
2013-12-12 01:40:39 PM  
The Muthaship: I love how the media always tells us of the secret brilliance of every dumb ass move this guy makes.

This one was pretty blah, but it does show the consistency.
 DERPDERPDERP_LIBRUL_MEDIA_derpderpderpitydoo!

Know how I can tell you're an idiot?
 
2013-12-12 01:42:42 PM  

SpectroBoy: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

HEY MODS - We have an troll who has admitted to using alts to troll.

Little help here?


You need to use the "notify moderators about this thread" link.
 
2013-12-12 01:43:22 PM  

trappedspirit: HeartBurnKid: Indeed it doesn't.  And from the way you have behaved in this thread, not only are you ignorant of the fact that the right wing has made a whole tempest out of the teapot that is Obama shaking hands with Castro, but you are, indeed, ignorant of the meaning of the word "ignorant".

I think your login makes sense to me now.


It should.  Shawn Michaels is awesome.
 
2013-12-12 01:44:29 PM  

trappedspirit: VendorXeno: Therefor you either saw it or you willfully avoided looking for something you knew probably existed, and instead elected to promote the idea that it didn't exist. There's really no other possible scenario, sorry. I know you think you're spinning a clever lie, but you're not, you're just making yourself look especially stupid.

I think this is getting no where.  You are one of those people that need to have an argument in order to communicate.  You've found a spot to inject a make believe argument so that you can get your arguing on.  And now you've decided things have to be one of two ways and no way else.  Yet both of them are lies.  Have you stopped beating your wife yet?  Yeah, I get it.  Have I ever suggested that the outrage was none existent?  Doesn't matter.  You keep stuffing that straw in my shirt but I'm not going to be your strawman.


I think it's definitely going somewhere. Many, many people here have recognized that you're being dishonest and trying to slander others. I, myself, prefer open, intelligent and honest dialogue, but I'll settle for exposing crackpots, liars and trolls, since it's kinda required to reach that stage anyway.
 
2013-12-12 01:54:18 PM  

SlothB77: Why is the media so thrilled by this?

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: Castro! He's shaking hands with Raul Castro.
CHRIS CUOMO: As Christiane points out, President Obama just shook hands with Raul Castro from Cuba.  What does that say as a gesture?
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: It says that this a moment of reconciliation for Mandela. And President Obama is doing the diplomatic thing. He's not just going to walk by and ignore these people who are there.  And they're all in a line.  He's kissing now the U.N. Secretary General, President Zuma.
ROBYN CURNOW: This is a man, and it is so true, who brought people together in life and he continues to bring people together in death.

The media is having orgasms over Obama shaking hands with Castro.  Why is that?  What does that say about them?  Does that seem a bit odd to you?
I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.


It's a funeral. If you can't manage to be polite enough to shake even your worst enemy's hand, GTFO, because people raised in a barn should probably take some etiquette classes before attending an event as sensitive as a funeral.
 
2013-12-12 01:56:56 PM  
Give it a couple years.  It will be full of spring break idiots at Pappas and Beers Havana.
 
2013-12-12 02:02:12 PM  
"The media is having orgasms over Obama shaking hands with Castro.  Why is that?  What does that say about them?  Does that seem a bit odd to you?
I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.   Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.
 "

Far more concerned about the many, many, many more fellow citizens unjustly being held in our own nation's prisons than in Cuba's.

Cuba isn't my enemy. Castro isn't my enemy. I and my liberties are both currently more at risk from the US government than they could possibly be from Cuba. That's one of the many, many, many things these pundits don't get.
 
2013-12-12 02:11:43 PM  
For most of the thread all I've been seeing is this:

209.160.41.119

I love when threads get so derailed they're pointless...
 
2013-12-12 02:13:33 PM  

VendorXeno: trappedspirit: VendorXeno: Therefor you either saw it or you willfully avoided looking for something you knew probably existed, and instead elected to promote the idea that it didn't exist. There's really no other possible scenario, sorry. I know you think you're spinning a clever lie, but you're not, you're just making yourself look especially stupid.

I think this is getting no where.  You are one of those people that need to have an argument in order to communicate.  You've found a spot to inject a make believe argument so that you can get your arguing on.  And now you've decided things have to be one of two ways and no way else.  Yet both of them are lies.  Have you stopped beating your wife yet?  Yeah, I get it.  Have I ever suggested that the outrage was none existent?  Doesn't matter.  You keep stuffing that straw in my shirt but I'm not going to be your strawman.

I think it's definitely going somewhere. Many, many people here have recognized that you're being dishonest and trying to slander others. I, myself, prefer open, intelligent and honest dialogue, but I'll settle for exposing crackpots, liars and trolls, since it's kinda required to reach that stage anyway.


Expose?  Oh, okay.  Go right ahead.  I keep asking people to expose me but all they can do is tell me what I have seen and what I am thinking.  You don't win an argument when you fabricate things you want to be in other people's heads.
 
2013-12-12 02:14:11 PM  

trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

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Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

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Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"

They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.


Nope. The "I never heard about it so it doesn't exist" is a stupid defense.
 
2013-12-12 02:14:14 PM  

HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

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Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

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Welcome out of the cave.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/11/obama-shakes-raul-castro- ha nd-at-mandela-service/

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-on-obama-castro-handsha ke -chamberlain-shook-hands-with-hitler-audio

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/12/10/cnn-cuomo-obama-c as tr-handshake-not-be-misunderstood

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/192 61 5-rubio-slams-obama-handshake-with-castro

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/obama-castro-handshake-visual/2013/12 /1 0/id/541016

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2013/12/10/msnbccom-writer -h ails-obama-castro-handshake-omits-fact-cubans-holding

http://twitchy.com/2013/12/10/oh-bam-obamas-castro-handshake-in-shat te ring-perspective/

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/12/supreme_irony_of_obamaca st ro_handshake_goes_unnoticed.html

http://www.infowars.com/castro-handshake-what-about-that-obama-photo -o p-with-an-african-cannibal/


Oh my... you went out and got all those links?  How do you still have the will to live?  Have you at least taken a shower since?
 
2013-12-12 02:19:34 PM  

VendorXeno: "The media is having orgasms over Obama shaking hands with Castro.  Why is that?  What does that say about them?  Does that seem a bit odd to you?
I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.   Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand. "

Far more concerned about the many, many, many more fellow citizens unjustly being held in our own nation's prisons than in Cuba's.

Cuba isn't my enemy. Castro isn't my enemy. I and my liberties are both currently more at risk from the US government than they could possibly be from Cuba. That's one of the many, many, many things these pundits don't get.


Maybe he was referring to the embargo.  None of us have any business shaking the guy's hand.  Just warm feelings.  Except cigars.
 
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