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(The Daily Beast)   That handshake with Obama and Castro? Yeah, that was a well-planned troll. And we all took a big bite   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 352
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2013-12-12 12:12:30 PM  
I've done a lot of things I'm not proud of, but I've never been so lonely and pathetic that I would have an argument with myself on an internet message board.
 
2013-12-12 12:13:03 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: Pants full of macaroni!!: jso2897: No. That's just another right wing blog about "what liberals think".
I'm asking you what YOU think - if indeed, you think anything at all - and you don't seem to be coming up with any answers.
(Save yourself the keystrokes of name-calling, like "pubescent" - I just ignore that stuff)
It's starting to look like you don't really have any coherent, expressable views at all.
DO you?

He sure does know how to condescend though!

And ultimately, isn't that what really matters?

NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)


Who the hell would do that?  Who would argue with themself on the internet.  Are you the South African sign language translator who was having a psychotic break?
 
2013-12-12 12:13:42 PM  
The only thing I've taken a big bite of lately is this tasty, tasty pork chop I'm having for lunch.
 
2013-12-12 12:16:51 PM  

blindio: I've done a lot of things I'm not proud of, but I've never been so lonely and pathetic that I would have an argument with myself on an internet message board.


Yeah, that's pretty messed up.
 
2013-12-12 12:17:19 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.  If you are going to ignore alllll those attributes and call the comparison ludicrous, well that's the tail wagging the dog.

There are tons of more apt comparisons to charismatic leaders than simply Hitler. It's a stupid comparison to make. Continue digging that hole, though. You're totally convincing everyone that there was no outrage over the handshake.


I said that everyone was overreacting.  This is convincing everyone what?  I would suggest you keep digging your hold but your shovel is broke.
 
2013-12-12 12:18:23 PM  

trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.  If you are going to ignore alllll those attributes and call the comparison ludicrous, well that's the tail wagging the dog.

There are tons of more apt comparisons to charismatic leaders than simply Hitler. It's a stupid comparison to make. Continue digging that hole, though. You're totally convincing everyone that there was no outrage over the handshake.

I said that everyone was overreacting.  This is convincing everyone what?  I would suggest you keep digging your hold but your shovel is broke.


No, you said that no one was overreacting except teh libz that were "apologizing"

You don't even remember your first argument do you?
 
2013-12-12 12:18:29 PM  

SlothB77: Why is the media so thrilled by this?

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: Castro! He's shaking hands with Raul Castro.
CHRIS CUOMO: As Christiane points out, President Obama just shook hands with Raul Castro from Cuba.  What does that say as a gesture?
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: It says that this a moment of reconciliation for Mandela. And President Obama is doing the diplomatic thing. He's not just going to walk by and ignore these people who are there.  And they're all in a line.  He's kissing now the U.N. Secretary General, President Zuma.
ROBYN CURNOW: This is a man, and it is so true, who brought people together in life and he continues to bring people together in death.

The media is having orgasms over Obama shaking hands with Castro.  Why is that?  What does that say about them?  Does that seem a bit odd to you?
I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.


If you think that is what having an orgasm is like, I feel very bad for you.
 
2013-12-12 12:19:14 PM  

Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

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Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

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Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"

They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.


I think you got that backwards.
 
2013-12-12 12:20:26 PM  

trappedspirit: It would be ludicrous to compare the number of Jews they had each killed.  But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.


Really? You think McCain was just trying to say Castro was charismatic when he compared the handshake to Hitler?

You know how stupid that makes you look?
 
2013-12-12 12:21:08 PM  
Hey, it's not like he misspelled potato or something.
 
2013-12-12 12:21:51 PM  

blindio: I've done a lot of things I'm not proud of, but I've never been so lonely and pathetic that I would have an argument with myself on an internet message board.


Some people are that desperate for attention.
 
2013-12-12 12:22:36 PM  

trappedspirit: Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this



So, pointing out hypocrisy is a form of apologetics?
 
2013-12-12 12:24:11 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: dinch: Hilarious. This reminds me of a friend of mine that was cheating on her boyfriend. For some dumb reason the guy she was cheating with sent her a love letter, and for an even dumber reason she held on to it. When her boyfriend found it and confronted her she grabbed the note, tore it up and flushed it down the toilet. Then denied there was ever a note.

The people in this thread stating that there was never any outrage are like that girl. Unfortunately, you can't flush the interwebs down the toilet.

You hang out with love cheats? Typical lib.


Like I'm going to care if a stupid girl tries to insult me.
 
2013-12-12 12:26:28 PM  
I think it's pretty shameful to see him shaking hands with an unapologetic communist, but come on, when is he going to get another chance to shake hands with the POTUS?
 
2013-12-12 12:29:47 PM  

trappedspirit: They are apologizing for his behavior


The only people that would use the label "apologist" for those ridiculing the outraged people, are the people that think there needs to be an apology for a hand-shake.

The only people that think there needs to be an apology for a hand-shake, are people outraged by the hand-shake.

Ergo, you yourself were outraged. Now you're embarrassed at your own stupidity and are trying to deflect.
 
2013-12-12 12:33:22 PM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Eh. I wish he didn't shake his hand, but it's not really a hot button issue for me. It's not like the guy took a smiling group photo at a funeral or something. I mean, THAT would be a pure ghetto/trailer trash move right there, right?


No.
 
2013-12-12 12:33:26 PM  

doubled99: Your view is delightfully simple and cute, like a small child playing!


Sorry, that's called summarizing, what did you want, an essay with as much details and citations as possible?

I notice you didn't seem to have any corrections or disagreements with it though.
 
2013-12-12 12:34:04 PM  

impaler: trappedspirit: It would be ludicrous to compare the number of Jews they had each killed.  But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.

Really? You think McCain was just trying to say Castro was charismatic when he compared the handshake to Hitler?

You know how stupid that makes you look?


Wait, I thought he was comparing Obama to Hitler?  He was saying that Castro has killed Jews?
 
2013-12-12 12:34:49 PM  

trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

Oh since you personally didn't see it, it obviously didn't happen.

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: trappedspirit: They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.   I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

Ok, maybe this guy


SlothB77: I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.

And John McCain. And the right-wing blogs. And Fox News. Other than that though, practically nobody.

Well thank god everyone is overreacting like a screeching harpy.  The right-wing blogs, lol.



I assume you mean liberals. Once again...

i13.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-12 12:36:17 PM  
 
2013-12-12 12:37:30 PM  

Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this


So, pointing out hypocrisy is a form of apologetics?


The hypocrisy was all those leaders acting like they are making nice.  It's fake, false, an outright lie.  But people think this is normal.  To suggest that shaking anyone's hand, evil hand or not, means anything about the other person is the root of the problem that everyone tries to ignore and shift the focus.
 
2013-12-12 12:38:06 PM  

trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.



They're apologists because you're ignorant?
 
2013-12-12 12:39:01 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully:
"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"
-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

What exactly is it about Hitler and the Nazis that make them - and only them - inadmissible for the purposes of learning from history?


Alright, go on then: How is Obama shaking Castro's hand, when they happen to meet at a memorial service for a guy they both liked a lot, the same as Neville Chamberlain shaking hands with Hitler over the Munich Agreement?
(Difficulty: Your answer has to be perceptive and pertinent)
 
2013-12-12 12:39:23 PM  
Why does everyone keep calling him Raul? Doesn't everyone know that Fidel's brother is named Dennis...or maybe Dwayne.
 
2013-12-12 12:39:24 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.  If you are going to ignore alllll those attributes and call the comparison ludicrous, well that's the tail wagging the dog.

There are tons of more apt comparisons to charismatic leaders than simply Hitler. It's a stupid comparison to make. Continue digging that hole, though. You're totally convincing everyone that there was no outrage over the handshake.

I said that everyone was overreacting.  This is convincing everyone what?  I would suggest you keep digging your hold but your shovel is broke.

No, you said that no one was overreacting except teh libz that were "apologizing"

You don't even remember your first argument do you?


The part about the harpies, in my post, that you read, and then forgot?  I think you are all worked up and looking for an argument.  That's what I think.  You haven't found one.
 
2013-12-12 12:39:51 PM  

sillydragon: blindio: I've done a lot of things I'm not proud of, but I've never been so lonely and pathetic that I would have an argument with myself on an internet message board.

Some people are that desperate for attention.


I don't understand why he's not on all the gray lists.  Schizoaffective Disorder is not really attractive to watch.
 
2013-12-12 12:40:04 PM  

trappedspirit: The hypocrisy was all those leaders acting like they are making nice.  It's fake, false, an outright lie


No, it's diplomacy. You're allowed to be nice to people you disagree with.
 
2013-12-12 12:40:41 PM  
What's this "we" shiat, submitter? I don't give a fark who the president shakes hands with. It's a handshake, not a wedding ceremony.

But then, I'm a grownup, not a whiny, pussified, know-nothing asshole who's always looking for something to be afraid of.
 
2013-12-12 12:40:41 PM  

Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.


They're apologists because you're ignorant?


i141.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-12 12:40:45 PM  

trappedspirit: The part about the harpies, in my post, that you read, and then forgot?  I think you are all worked up and looking for an argument.  That's what I think.  You haven't found one.


You're right, I haven't found one because you have yet to make a coherent, logical, and factually accurate statement.
 
2013-12-12 12:41:10 PM  

trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this


So, pointing out hypocrisy is a form of apologetics?

The hypocrisy was all those leaders acting like they are making nice.  It's fake, false, an outright lie.  But people think this is normal.  To suggest that shaking anyone's hand, evil hand or not, means anything about the other person is the root of the problem that everyone tries to ignore and shift the focus.



Aren't you afraid of hurting your back? You should get someone to help move those goalposts.
 
2013-12-12 12:41:21 PM  

trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.


They're apologists because you're ignorant?

[i141.photobucket.com image 491x481]


Look, we weren't the ones that said that because you hadn't seen the outrage it didn't happen. That was all you, bud.
 
2013-12-12 12:44:03 PM  

trappedspirit: [inigomontoya.jpg]


You take offense because people call you ignorant after you claim no one has attacked Obama for shaking hands??
 
2013-12-12 12:47:12 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: The hypocrisy was all those leaders acting like they are making nice.  It's fake, false, an outright lie

No, it's diplomacy. You're allowed to be nice to people you disagree with.


You're allowed to do a dance number too, that doesn't mean life is a musical.

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: The part about the harpies, in my post, that you read, and then forgot?  I think you are all worked up and looking for an argument.  That's what I think.  You haven't found one.

You're right, I haven't found one because you have yet to make a coherent, logical, and factually accurate statement.


Worked.  Up.  Work it back down.
 
2013-12-12 12:47:16 PM  
As I understand it, conservatives have never had a reaction to Oblahma's use of teleprompters, therefore any outrage is fabricated by the mainstream MSM liebrul media.
 
2013-12-12 12:48:24 PM  

trappedspirit: You're allowed to do a dance number too, that doesn't mean life is a musical.


This makes no sense. You don't understand diplomacy.

trappedspirit: Worked.  Up.  Work it back down.


Who's worked up? I'm simply stating facts here.
 
2013-12-12 12:49:15 PM  
There was a farker back in the day called FlashLV, who would make outlandish, obviously ridiculous statements, then spend the remainder of the thread obfuscating, detouring or outright denying he said any such thing. I'm reminded of him today.
 
2013-12-12 12:49:22 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.


They're apologists because you're ignorant?

[i141.photobucket.com image 491x481]

Look, we weren't the ones that said that because you hadn't seen the outrage it didn't happen. That was all you, bud.


I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.  Someone here even added some links of where this was happening.  That was a sane response to someone saying they haven't seen that side of things.  Guess what type of response you had.
 
2013-12-12 12:50:39 PM  

trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.


You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?
 
2013-12-12 12:52:18 PM  

Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: [inigomontoya.jpg]

You take offense because people call you ignorant after you claim no one has attacked Obama for shaking hands??


I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.  You've read everything into this "argument" that you wanted to.  You are bitter and looking for someone to share that bitterness with.  You keep trying, but it doesn't rub off.
 
2013-12-12 12:53:35 PM  

trappedspirit: I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.


Look, you can't rewrite history any more than you can move the goalposts. Maybe it's best for you to just move on to the next thread. You made a claim, you got called out on it, you just can't admit being wrong about it.
 
2013-12-12 12:53:47 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?


Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.
 
2013-12-12 12:54:26 PM  

Franko: An american president shaking hands with a communist?  Inconceivable!

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Indeed.

crimemagazine.com
 
2013-12-12 12:55:08 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.

Look, you can't rewrite history any more than you can move the goalposts. Maybe it's best for you to just move on to the next thread. You made a claim, you got called out on it, you just can't admit being wrong about it.


Rewrite history?  Would you care to show me where I made that claim?  Or will you claim that someone deleted the post?  I'm betting on the latter.
 
2013-12-12 12:56:10 PM  

trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.


What would be the point in making a claim like that? It's useless. I haven't seen the 1932 World Series, but I've seen all kinds of articles on it. What's the point of saying that?
 
2013-12-12 12:57:27 PM  

trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.


In his mind, this post means something other than "the outrage didn't happen"
 
2013-12-12 12:58:10 PM  

trappedspirit: Rewrite history?  Would you care to show me where I made that claim?


trappedspirit: I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.



People losing their minds over this:

HeartBurnKid: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/11/obama-shakes-raul-castro- ha nd-at-mandela-service/

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-on-obama-castro-handsha ke -chamberlain-shook-hands-with-hitler-audio

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/12/10/cnn-cuomo-obama-c as tr-handshake-not-be-misunderstood

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/192 61 5-rubio-slams-obama-handshake-with-castro

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/obama-castro-handshake-visual/2013/12 /1 0/id/541016

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2013/12/10/msnbccom-writer -h ails-obama-castro-handshake-omits-fact-cubans-holding

http://twitchy.com/2013/12/10/oh-bam-obamas-castro-handshake-in-shat te ring-perspective/

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/12/supreme_irony_of_obamaca st ro_handshake_goes_unnoticed.html

http://www.infowars.com/castro-handshake-what-about-that-obama-photo -o p-with-an-african-cannibal/

 
2013-12-12 12:58:57 PM  

dinch: THE GREAT NAME: dinch: Hilarious. This reminds me of a friend of mine that was cheating on her boyfriend. For some dumb reason the guy she was cheating with sent her a love letter, and for an even dumber reason she held on to it. When her boyfriend found it and confronted her she grabbed the note, tore it up and flushed it down the toilet. Then denied there was ever a note.

The people in this thread stating that there was never any outrage are like that girl. Unfortunately, you can't flush the interwebs down the toilet.

You hang out with love cheats? Typical lib.

Like I'm going to care if a stupid girl tries to insult me.


Stupid girl????

Reported to mods: trolling other users
 
2013-12-12 12:59:37 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: dinch: THE GREAT NAME: dinch: Hilarious. This reminds me of a friend of mine that was cheating on her boyfriend. For some dumb reason the guy she was cheating with sent her a love letter, and for an even dumber reason she held on to it. When her boyfriend found it and confronted her she grabbed the note, tore it up and flushed it down the toilet. Then denied there was ever a note.

The people in this thread stating that there was never any outrage are like that girl. Unfortunately, you can't flush the interwebs down the toilet.

You hang out with love cheats? Typical lib.

Like I'm going to care if a stupid girl tries to insult me.

Stupid girl????

Reported to mods: trolling other users


You are boring.
 
2013-12-12 12:59:43 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: What would be the point in making a claim like that? It's useless. I haven't seen the 1932 World Series, but I've seen all kinds of articles on it. What's the point of saying that?


Clearly the 1932 World Series didn't happen, and the liberal media is full of 1932 World Series apologists.
 
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