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(The Daily Beast)   That handshake with Obama and Castro? Yeah, that was a well-planned troll. And we all took a big bite   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 352
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2013-12-12 10:02:30 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Oh John, you silly goose.
 
2013-12-12 10:04:36 AM  

Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: That's my point.

You were right to point out that some people angry about the handshake are non-right-wing Cubans.

But you were wrong when you said "the only people really outraged over this are Cubans".

Now, maybe John McCain wasn't "really" outraged and it was just a bullsh*t pose, but plenty of non-Cuban right-wing derpers out there agreed wholeheartedly with his sentiment whether it was sincere or not.


Touche.  Made the same mistake of OP.
 
2013-12-12 10:05:39 AM  

Fart_Machine: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: THE GREAT NAME: That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Just what this site needs, more inept lazy trolls.

Hey douchebag, you know there's no such thing as a left-libertarian, right? Can't trust a man who doesn't even know his own political orientation.

Indeed.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism

Pants full of macaroni!!: THE GREAT NAME: [oeuvre]

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT A LIBERAL BELIEVES, ASK A CONSERVATIVE.


Hey whiney pants do you smash all the mirrors in your house. Cause you sure are scared of being shown yourself.
 
2013-12-12 10:05:39 AM  
We?
 
2013-12-12 10:05:55 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: Touche. Made the same mistake of OP.


Respect!
 
2013-12-12 10:07:02 AM  

jso2897: No. That's just another right wing blog about "what liberals think".
I'm asking you what YOU think - if indeed, you think anything at all - and you don't seem to be coming up with any answers.
(Save yourself the keystrokes of name-calling, like "pubescent" - I just ignore that stuff)
It's starting to look like you don't really have any coherent, expressable views at all.
DO you?


He sure does know how to condescend though!

And ultimately, isn't that what really matters?
 
2013-12-12 10:07:33 AM  
shaking hands is an act of kindness,

the GOP hates kindness in all forms.

Feel the hate flow through you....
 
2013-12-12 10:07:36 AM  

GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage


So you missed McCain equating it to Chamberlain shaking Hitler's hand?
 
2013-12-12 10:07:40 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Hey whiney pants do you smash all the mirrors in your house. Cause you sure are scared of being shown yourself.


See what I mean?
 
2013-12-12 10:08:02 AM  
Not sure what the point of a well-planned troll would be; it's not like Obama has to put forth any effort (or take any action at all) to troll the GOP.

/Switching parties, THAT would be a troll
 
2013-12-12 10:08:28 AM  

Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

Oh John, you silly goose.


He did nothing wrong there. None of this is wrong.
What are our leaders supposed to do when they are on the world stage, with the eyes of the world on them, and they encounter the leaders of regimes that are less than exemplary? Abandon all social graces? When offered the hand of a Raul Castro on  Moamar Khaddaffi. should our President or Vice President or Secretary of State spin on his heel like Mick Jagger on Ed Sullivan?
What the f**k do people expect them to do?
 
2013-12-12 10:09:42 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: jso2897: No. That's just another right wing blog about "what liberals think".
I'm asking you what YOU think - if indeed, you think anything at all - and you don't seem to be coming up with any answers.
(Save yourself the keystrokes of name-calling, like "pubescent" - I just ignore that stuff)
It's starting to look like you don't really have any coherent, expressable views at all.
DO you?

He sure does know how to condescend though!

And ultimately, isn't that what really matters?


NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)
 
GBB
2013-12-12 10:11:34 AM  
cla.calpoly.edu
Sometimes a handshake is just a handshake.
 
2013-12-12 10:11:43 AM  
Here, cons, claiming, "Outrage? What outrage? There was an outrage?" This is more believable:

www.blindfiveyearold.com
 
2013-12-12 10:11:49 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Fart_Machine: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: THE GREAT NAME: That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Just what this site needs, more inept lazy trolls.

Hey douchebag, you know there's no such thing as a left-libertarian, right? Can't trust a man who doesn't even know his own political orientation.

Indeed.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism
Pants full of macaroni!!: THE GREAT NAME: [oeuvre]

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT A LIBERAL BELIEVES, ASK A CONSERVATIVE.

Hey whiney pants do you smash all the mirrors in your house. Cause you sure are scared of being shown yourself.


Did you have a stroke or something?
 
2013-12-12 10:14:11 AM  

jso2897: Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

Oh John, you silly goose.

He did nothing wrong there. None of this is wrong.
What are our leaders supposed to do when they are on the world stage, with the eyes of the world on them, and they encounter the leaders of regimes that are less than exemplary? Abandon all social graces? When offered the hand of a Raul Castro on  Moamar Khaddaffi. should our President or Vice President or Secretary of State spin on his heel like Mick Jagger on Ed Sullivan?
What the f**k do people expect them to do?


I expect him to keep his farking mouth shut and not compare Obama shaking hands with Castro to Chamberlain shaking hands with Hitler.
 
2013-12-12 10:16:14 AM  

The Evil Home Brewer: We need to get past this cold war induced hysteria with Cuba and move on. So they probably have nukes left over from their association with the former Soviet Union...

Continuing this embargo against a neighbor 90 miles from Florida is just causing unnecessary suffering for their people (and the potential loss of additional economic markets we could take advantage of because of the proximity and lower shipping costs for US products than what we pay to ship to Europe or Asia).

If we really want their society to crumble? Lift the embargo and send representatives of the major US fast food chains to Cuba as ambassadors.

On a more serious note? The Chinese are communists too.... yet they have become preferred trading partners with the US because of their manufacturing base and willingness to pollute their own country to manufacture crap we are willing to buy.

So Fidel Castro probably had JFK assassinated.... The guy is sitting in a wheelchair drooling on himself .... if he's still alive. That was 50 years ago.... Time to move on.

His brother Raul seems to be a more reasonable and easier to deal with. Time to begin accepting shipments of Cuban cigars again. If we get Cuban cigars and they get McDonalds? .... We won the cold war.


Agree with pretty much your whole post, except I'd be surprised if Russia left any nukes in Cuba.
 
2013-12-12 10:19:35 AM  

Dimensio: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage

You are correct. For all of the claims of outrage, absolutely no one has actually expressed any outrage.



Burn.
 
2013-12-12 10:20:19 AM  

Free Radical: jso2897: Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

Oh John, you silly goose.

He did nothing wrong there. None of this is wrong.
What are our leaders supposed to do when they are on the world stage, with the eyes of the world on them, and they encounter the leaders of regimes that are less than exemplary? Abandon all social graces? When offered the hand of a Raul Castro on  Moamar Khaddaffi. should our President or Vice President or Secretary of State spin on his heel like Mick Jagger on Ed Sullivan?
What the f**k do people expect them to do?

I expect him to keep his farking mouth shut and not compare Obama shaking hands with Castro to Chamberlain shaking hands with Hitler.


You know Free Radical, the fact you are free owes more to people like John McCain than to people like Fidel/Raul Castro. You do know that, right? Or are you just another lib who "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!"
 
2013-12-12 10:21:11 AM  
As I tried to tell someone at work during a discussion on the merits of pineapple on pizza, not every issue can be reduced to a "people who identify with conservatives" vs "people who identify with liberals" argument. And they did anyway.

Much like various signals that Obama's presidency is illegitimate because he opens his eggs on the wrong side, there's a guy at work who's so consistently against any idea I come up with has reached the point where it's just a running joke. My solution? I have other people on the team suggest my ideas, and he gives them a fair shake. The problem? It wasn't my solution; it was the other team members AND the guy's supervisor. At this point, everyone involved has become skeptical of everything he says.

// Not so CSB: my family has been torn apart by outrage. Specifically, my observations that several people are constantly outraged by various slights against their world-view are, obviously, outrageous. I am tired.
 
2013-12-12 10:22:29 AM  
"While human rights have played no role in the US outreach to Iran in recent weeks, they remain at the center of U.S. policy goals for Cuba. The 1996 legislation that codified the U.S. embargo of the island, known as Helms-Burton, explicitly says the embargo shall not be lifted until Cuba releases political prisoners and holds free and fair elections."

Human rights in Cuba is a nice way to placate the Cuban expats while making the embargo look good to the international community. It obscures the fact that Cuba is a purely sphere-of-influence issue for the US, and the end goal is not to liberate the island but to incorporate it as a satellite for tourism. Human rights in Iran isn't an issue (yet) because they have the threat of nuclear weapons as an even better boogeyman - they don't have to publicly give a shiat about what people's lives are like in Iran (not as bad as in Cuba, from what I understand, and considerably less prone to incarceration than in the US) when they can publicly pretend to give a shiat about people's lives in Israel.
 
2013-12-12 10:22:54 AM  

SlothB77: Why is the media so thrilled by this?

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: Castro! He's shaking hands with Raul Castro.
CHRIS CUOMO: As Christiane points out, President Obama just shook hands with Raul Castro from Cuba.  What does that say as a gesture?
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: It says that this a moment of reconciliation for Mandela. And President Obama is doing the diplomatic thing. He's not just going to walk by and ignore these people who are there.  And they're all in a line.  He's kissing now the U.N. Secretary General, President Zuma.
ROBYN CURNOW: This is a man, and it is so true, who brought people together in life and he continues to bring people together in death.

The media is having orgasms over Obama shaking hands with Castro.  Why is that?  What does that say about them?  Does that seem a bit odd to you?
I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.


There are American in prison in damn near every country you could name on an unlabeled map and then some.
 
2013-12-12 10:23:15 AM  
Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D
 
2013-12-12 10:24:21 AM  

doubled99: What is with this meme in the last couple of days where people pretend that nobody at all is reacting negatively to things? Every thread is all "Psh nobody on the right is overreacting, now or ever. Duh."


It fits perfectly with the plethora of stories claiming "people are outraged and offended" over something then have no citation other than some random Twitter comments somewhere.


www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com
"Nobody has expressed any outrage whatsoever.  The talking heads on TV don't count.  The bloggers don't count.  The congressmen don't count.  The ordinary people on Twitter and Facebook don't count.  See, no outrage.  How dare you libtards accuse us of being outraged?"
 
2013-12-12 10:27:22 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[citationneeded.gif]


In the middle of the ocean, there is a mountain of granite 10 miles high, 10 miles wide, and 10 miles long.  Once every thousand years, a hummingbird flies to the mountain and sharpens its beak.  When the mountain has disappeared, that will be like 1 second of the eternal hatred right wingers hold for President Obama.
 
2013-12-12 10:27:30 AM  
Its pony time :D
 
2013-12-12 10:27:34 AM  

GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage


Look harder.
 
2013-12-12 10:29:27 AM  

Stile4aly: Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[citationneeded.gif]

In the middle of the ocean, there is a mountain of granite 10 miles high, 10 miles wide, and 10 miles long.  Once every thousand years, a hummingbird flies to the mountain and sharpens its beak.  When the mountain has disappeared, that will be like 1 second of the eternal hatred right wingers hold for President Obama.


Keep reading through the thread, see the rest of my comments.
 
2013-12-12 10:29:41 AM  

Nappy Imus: Its pony time :D


Crap it rejected my pic. Lets try again. . .

runningponies.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-12 10:30:10 AM  

Nappy Imus: Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D


You're so convinced of you lib opinions, that you can't even accept as human those who disagree. Sad, really. Luckily libs are not as organised as the Germans otherwise you would no doubt start Holocausting those who do not share stupid lib opinions.
 
2013-12-12 10:30:47 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Free Radical: jso2897: Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

You know Free Radical, the fact you are free owes more to people like John McCain than to people like Fidel/Raul Castro. You do know that, right? Or are you just another lib who "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!"


When people like John McCain shake hands hands with the likes of Qaddafi, I cannot trust that they will keep me free or safe from terrorism.
 
2013-12-12 10:32:45 AM  

Nappy Imus: Its pony time :D


i18.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-12 10:33:28 AM  
"We," subby? Some us believe a 60 year old feud with the evil communism Red Menace is a pointless waste of resources.
 
2013-12-12 10:34:26 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Nappy Imus: Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D

You're so convinced of you lib opinions, that you can't even accept as human those who disagree. Sad, really. Luckily libs are not as organised as the Germans otherwise you would no doubt start Holocausting those who do not share stupid lib opinions.


See? I'm neither a liberal nor a conservative, I just made an observation using the bots name, and it automatically replies with something nasty. Also, how could I disagree with your opinions with a previous poster proved, no doubt, that you have none of your own? Ah, now I have crossed into fail, though, because I'm arguing with a bot. Sad, really :D
 
2013-12-12 10:36:09 AM  

Nappy Imus: Its pony time :D


Broncos don't play until this evening.
 
2013-12-12 10:36:18 AM  

Nappy Imus: THE GREAT NAME: Nappy Imus: Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D

You're so convinced of you lib opinions, that you can't even accept as human those who disagree. Sad, really. Luckily libs are not as organised as the Germans otherwise you would no doubt start Holocausting those who do not share stupid lib opinions.

See? I'm neither a liberal nor a conservative, I just made an observation using the bots name, and it automatically replies with something nasty. Also, how could I disagree with your opinions with a previous poster proved, no doubt, that you have none of your own? Ah, now I have crossed into fail, though, because I'm arguing with a bot. Sad, really :D


I should really start proofreading my posts. . .
 
2013-12-12 10:36:45 AM  

SlothB77: there are Americans in prison in Cuba. Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand


There are Americans in prison in American. Obama's got no business touching himself at night.
 
2013-12-12 10:38:22 AM  

Free Radical: THE GREAT NAME: Free Radical: jso2897: Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

You know Free Radical, the fact you are free owes more to people like John McCain than to people like Fidel/Raul Castro. You do know that, right? Or are you just another lib who "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!"

When people like John McCain shake hands hands with the likes of Qaddafi, I cannot trust that they will keep me free or safe from terrorism.


Ha! and you accuse conservatives of outrage when Obama shakes the hand of a communist!
 
2013-12-12 10:39:12 AM  

fireclown: Yup. I agree that embargo has long outlived its usefulness by decades. But the Castro regime (including Raul) have to be gone for the embargo to end. It's dumb, but those seem to be the rules. If we can lay a little groundwork in the meantime, so be it.


While we did reach detente with Vietnam, the Soviets, and China, we did not do it while Le Duan, Khrushchev and Mao were still in office. Castro still is.

There's also that issue of October 1962, which ended when the Soviets realized Castro was actually planning on launching the missiles instead of using them as a MAD trade-off, and took them back. Again, that guy is still in charge.
 
2013-12-12 10:39:54 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)


Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.
 
2013-12-12 10:41:21 AM  

stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.


Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.
 
2013-12-12 10:41:39 AM  
So let me get this straight...

The Obama Administration has been quietly for the last 2 months been trying to begin talks with Cuba (which realistically we knew was going on after they announced that Cubans could start traveling there, or whatever that was) and when they got the chance to meet publically at a event on neutral ground, Castro offered his hand and probably told Obama he was ready to talk more and start normalizing relations.

So this is what I see...

1. End 2 wars and start pulling most troops out

2. Killed Osama bin Laden

3. Helped End Gadhafi's dictatorship (not much you can do afterwards with its ppl, they have to sort that out)

4. Something something Egypt... What can you do about people that want to vote stupid in though.

5. Starting process of normalizing relations with Iran

6. Starting process of normalizing relations with Cuba

/but he's worse President ever, not 'cause he's black, god no, how can you bring race into it!? He's just an empty suit do nothing that we're threatened by because he does stuff, oh and he's a communist, marxist, socialist, nazi, fascist, liberal, kenyan, uppity ni.... uhhh... democrat...! Yea! What's the problem with all these bl.... blah people???
 
2013-12-12 10:42:29 AM  

fireclown: we can't really end this embargo yet


The embargo might have been justified when the Soviet Union was still around.  It's total bullschitt today, and only props up Castro by giving him an excuse for not delivering the goods.
 
2013-12-12 10:42:42 AM  

Nappy Imus: Ah, now I have crossed into fail, though, because I'm arguing with a bot. Sad, really :D


I have him farkied as boring troll because he wasn't even worth coming up with a better description. It improves the thread immensely.
 
2013-12-12 10:43:47 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.


I couldn't care less about what you do with your alts.  It's just good to see having alts for the sole purpose of trolling is cool now.
 
2013-12-12 10:43:54 AM  

KellyX: Yea! What's the problem with all these bl.... blah people???


And, don't get me started on those government nigs!
 
2013-12-12 10:45:35 AM  

This text is now purple: fireclown: Yup. I agree that embargo has long outlived its usefulness by decades. But the Castro regime (including Raul) have to be gone for the embargo to end. It's dumb, but those seem to be the rules. If we can lay a little groundwork in the meantime, so be it.

While we did reach detente with Vietnam, the Soviets, and China, we did not do it while Le Duan, Khrushchev and Mao were still in office. Castro still is.

There's also that issue of October 1962, which ended when the Soviets realized Castro was actually planning on launching the missiles instead of using them as a MAD trade-off, and took them back. Again, that guy is still in charge.



Really? You might want to check that.
 
2013-12-12 10:45:44 AM  

stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.


It can have other bad consequences as well - did I ever tell you guys about the man who taught his asshole to talk? His whole abdomen would move up and down you dig farting out the words. It was unlike anything I ever heard.
This ass talk had sort of a gut frequency. It hit you right down there like you gotta go. You know when the old colon gives you the elbow and it feels sorta cold inside, and you know all you have to do is turn loose? Well this talking hit you right down there, a bubbly, thick stagnant sound, a sound you could smell.
This man worked for a carnival you dig, and to start with it was like a novelty ventriliquist act. Real funny, too, at first. He had a number he called "The Better 'Ole" that was a scream, I tell you. I forget most of it but it was clever. Like, "Oh I say, are you still down there, old thing?"
"Nah I had to go relieve myself."
After a while the ass start talking on its own. He would go in without anything prepared and his ass would ad-lib and toss the gags back at him every time.
Then it developed sort of teeth-like little raspy in-curving hooks and started eating. He thought this was cute at first and built an act around it, but the asshole would eat its way through his pants and start talking on the street, shouting out it wanted equal rights. It would get drunk, too, and have crying jags nobody loved it and it wanted to be kissed same as any other mouth. Finally it talked all the time day and night, you could hear him for blocks screaming at it to shut up, and beating it with his fist, and sticking candles up it, but nothing did any good and the asshole said to him: "It's you who will shut up in the end. Not me. Because we dont need you around here any more. I can talk and eat and shiat."
After that he began waking up in the morning with a transparent jelly like a tadpole's tail all over his mouth. This jelly was what the scientists call un-D.T., Undifferentiated Tissue, which can grow into any kind of flesh on the human body. He would tear it off his mouth and the pieces would stick to his hands like burning gasoline jelly and grow there, grow anywhere on him a glob of it fell. So finally his mouth sealed over, and the whole head would have have amputated spontaneous - (did you know there is a condition occurs in parts of Africa and only among Negroes where the little toe amputates spontaneously?) - except for the eyes you dig. Thats one thing the asshole couldn't do was see. It needed the eyes. But nerve connections were blocked and infiltrated and atrophied so the brain couldn't give orders any more. It was trapped in the skull, sealed off. For a while you could see the silent, helpless suffering of the brain behind the eyes, then finally the brain must have died, because the eyes went out, and there was no more feeling in them than a crab's eyes on the end of a stalk.

That's the sort of thing that creating sock-puppets can lead to.
 
2013-12-12 10:46:18 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Free Radical: THE GREAT NAME: Free Radical: jso2897: Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

You know Free Radical, the fact you are free owes more to people like John McCain than to people like Fidel/Raul Castro. You do know that, right? Or are you just another lib who "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!"

When people like John McCain shake hands hands with the likes of Qaddafi, I cannot trust that they will keep me free or safe from terrorism.

Ha! and you accuse conservatives of outrage when Obama shakes the hand of a communist!


I didn't accuse him of outrage, I pointed out his hypocrisy.
 
2013-12-12 10:46:59 AM  

stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.

I couldn't care less about what you do with your alts.  It's just good to see having alts for the sole purpose of trolling is cool now.


Nope, not trolling. The alts are there to provide better lib arguments than actual libs can manage, so that NAME has something to get NAME's teeth into.
 
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