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(The Daily Beast)   That handshake with Obama and Castro? Yeah, that was a well-planned troll. And we all took a big bite   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 352
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2013-12-12 08:29:27 AM  
Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do
 
2013-12-12 08:50:38 AM  
I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage
 
2013-12-12 08:52:03 AM  
I love how the media always tells us of the secret brilliance of every dumb ass move this guy makes.

This one was pretty blah, but it does show the consistency.
 
2013-12-12 08:53:18 AM  
You....you took a bit bite. The majority of us don't give a shiat who a grown man shakes hands with
 
2013-12-12 08:53:29 AM  
I don't really keep up with these things... but why is there still an embargo again? I'm assuming there's some sort of at least half-assed reason?
 
2013-12-12 08:54:07 AM  

GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage


You are correct. For all of the claims of outrage, absolutely no one has actually expressed any outrage.
 
2013-12-12 08:54:30 AM  
I don't recall, "taking a big bite," so much as barely noticing and not caring at all since I'm not a foaming lunatic or superficial idiot, but it takes all kinds...
 
2013-12-12 08:55:33 AM  
What is with this meme in the last couple of days where people pretend that nobody at all is reacting negatively to things? Every thread is all "Psh nobody on the right is overreacting, now or ever. Duh."
 
2013-12-12 08:55:51 AM  
Texas already elected a Castro to the US House. Probably not Cuban.
 
2013-12-12 08:56:33 AM  
Nothing will ever change until Fidel is dead. And maybe not until Raul is out of power.
 
2013-12-12 08:57:36 AM  
Troll scholl. Normalizing relations between Cuba and the US is long overdue and any progress there is laudable.

Progress has mostly been held back by a cynical GOP hoping  to keep Cuban Americans voting for them for another generation (and keeping Florida in play for them) by making being dicks to Cuba a party platform.
 
2013-12-12 08:58:42 AM  

The Muthaship: I love how the media always tells us of the secret brilliance of every dumb ass move this guy makes.

This one was pretty blah, but it does show the consistency.


Speaking of consistency...


/but I think Sen. McCain called him "that one."
 
2013-12-12 08:59:06 AM  
But, but, but what if people were being paid $20/hr to be outraged?
 
2013-12-12 08:59:11 AM  

Dimensio: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage

You are correct. For all of the claims of outrage, absolutely no one has actually expressed any outrage.


In your world, is there a difference between noticing a thing, and having outrage over it?
 
2013-12-12 09:00:01 AM  

Dimensio: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage

You are correct. For all of the claims of outrage, absolutely no one has actually expressed any outrage.


Nice.  2 from an actual Cuban refugee, and one from a talking head.  You win, I guess.
 
2013-12-12 09:00:09 AM  

GORDON: Dimensio: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage

You are correct. For all of the claims of outrage, absolutely no one has actually expressed any outrage.

In your world, is there a difference between noticing a thing, and having outrage over it?


In your world, does completely ignoring peoples' behavior mean that it never happened?
 
2013-12-12 09:00:50 AM  

LasersHurt: What is with this meme in the last couple of days where people pretend that nobody at all is reacting negatively to things? Every thread is all "Psh nobody on the right is overreacting, now or ever. Duh."


What is it with the last 5 years everyone talking about OUTRAGE all the time?  I'm just not seeing it.  Unless that word doesn't mean what I think it means.
 
2013-12-12 09:01:28 AM  

Gdalescrboz: You....you took a bit bite. The majority of us don't give a shiat who a grown man shakes hands with


www.thechicagodope.com

Or kisses.
 
2013-12-12 09:01:51 AM  
Why is the media so thrilled by this?

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: Castro! He's shaking hands with Raul Castro.
CHRIS CUOMO: As Christiane points out, President Obama just shook hands with Raul Castro from Cuba.  What does that say as a gesture?
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: It says that this a moment of reconciliation for Mandela. And President Obama is doing the diplomatic thing. He's not just going to walk by and ignore these people who are there.  And they're all in a line.  He's kissing now the U.N. Secretary General, President Zuma.
ROBYN CURNOW: This is a man, and it is so true, who brought people together in life and he continues to bring people together in death.


The media is having orgasms over Obama shaking hands with Castro.  Why is that?  What does that say about them?  Does that seem a bit odd to you?
I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.
 
2013-12-12 09:01:55 AM  

GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.


Please proceed. Tell us what other things you don't see with your eyes closed.
 
2013-12-12 09:02:17 AM  

LasersHurt: GORDON: Dimensio: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage

You are correct. For all of the claims of outrage, absolutely no one has actually expressed any outrage.

In your world, is there a difference between noticing a thing, and having outrage over it?

In your world, does completely ignoring peoples' behavior mean that it never happened?


That doesn't make any kind of sense as a retort.  Some peeps calling out "right wingers" for being "outraged," I am asking for evidence of this and claiming "just noting it doesn't count as outrage," and you've got nothing.  I win.
 
2013-12-12 09:02:48 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-12-12 09:03:29 AM  

Wooly Bully: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

Please proceed. Tell us what other things you don't see with your eyes closed.


Bah. I give up.  Outage everywhere.  Rioting in the streets.  Right wingers need to all be put down because they are maniacally insane.
 
2013-12-12 09:04:17 AM  

GORDON: LasersHurt: GORDON: Dimensio: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage

You are correct. For all of the claims of outrage, absolutely no one has actually expressed any outrage.

In your world, is there a difference between noticing a thing, and having outrage over it?

In your world, does completely ignoring peoples' behavior mean that it never happened?

That doesn't make any kind of sense as a retort.  Some peeps calling out "right wingers" for being "outraged," I am asking for evidence of this and claiming "just noting it doesn't count as outrage," and you've got nothing.  I win.


You've put in literally Zero effort to look into the reactions from the right, yet here you are saying nobody was bothered and that you win. This sounds like par for the course, I guess, but really. Shamefully lazy.
 
2013-12-12 09:04:28 AM  

The Muthaship: I love how the media always tells us of the secret brilliance of every dumb ass move this guy makes.


 Only MSNBC does it with TOTAL reliability.

It's not the worst plan ever.  Cuba is just off our (the US) coast.  Sooner or later someone who isn't a Castro is going to be in charge of it and we can start dealing with it as we would with any other country.  Raul is kind of a place holder, he isn't Fidel, but he's still a Castro so we can't really end this embargo yet.  Shaking his hand isn't THAT big of a deal, but it shows that we will eventually be willing to start talking to them.
 
2013-12-12 09:04:34 AM  
We need to get past this cold war induced hysteria with Cuba and move on. So they probably have nukes left over from their association with the former Soviet Union...

Continuing this embargo against a neighbor 90 miles from Florida is just causing unnecessary suffering for their people (and the potential loss of additional economic markets we could take advantage of because of the proximity and lower shipping costs for US products than what we pay to ship to Europe or Asia).

If we really want their society to crumble? Lift the embargo and send representatives of the major US fast food chains to Cuba as ambassadors.

On a more serious note? The Chinese are communists too.... yet they have become preferred trading partners with the US because of their manufacturing base and willingness to pollute their own country to manufacture crap we are willing to buy.

So Fidel Castro probably had JFK assassinated.... The guy is sitting in a wheelchair drooling on himself .... if he's still alive. That was 50 years ago.... Time to move on.

His brother Raul seems to be a more reasonable and easier to deal with. Time to begin accepting shipments of Cuban cigars again. If we get Cuban cigars and they get McDonalds? .... We won the cold war.
 
2013-12-12 09:05:51 AM  

LasersHurt: What is with this meme in the last couple of days where people pretend that nobody at all is reacting negatively to things? Every thread is all "Psh nobody on the right is overreacting, now or ever. Duh."


TINSTAAOC?  (There Is No Such Thing As An Outraged Conservative?)
 
2013-12-12 09:05:58 AM  
Oh, noes! He's bowing again!

Put on your fireproof trousers and hoodies, the Conservatives are about to flame!

Then again, he's very tall and the other guy is really short.
 
2013-12-12 09:08:17 AM  
So conservative imbeciles are "we all."
 
2013-12-12 09:08:26 AM  
We nothing. I saw a handshake. Nobody whos opinion matters cares.
 
2013-12-12 09:09:30 AM  
What is with this meme in the last couple of days where people pretend that nobody at all is reacting negatively to things? Every thread is all "Psh nobody on the right is overreacting, now or ever. Duh."


It fits perfectly with the plethora of stories claiming "people are outraged and offended" over something then have no citation other than some random Twitter comments somewhere.
 
2013-12-12 09:10:30 AM  
Yes, but is their wedding announcement also a troll?
 
2013-12-12 09:11:29 AM  

doubled99: What is with this meme in the last couple of days where people pretend that nobody at all is reacting negatively to things? Every thread is all "Psh nobody on the right is overreacting, now or ever. Duh."


It fits perfectly with the plethora of stories claiming "people are outraged and offended" over something then have no citation other than some random Twitter comments somewhere.


Even the tiniest amount of effort can confirm it, though. There are video clips of people from Fox News, etc. There are articles and opinion pieces written. There is a pile of tangible evidence to support it.

Idly claiming that it's not happening because the link posted on Fark at that very second doesn't confirm it is ridiculous, and playing on the idea that people will be too lazy to check and just accept it.
 
2013-12-12 09:11:53 AM  

GORDON: Wooly Bully: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

Please proceed. Tell us what other things you don't see with your eyes closed.

Bah. I give up.  Outage everywhere.  Rioting in the streets.  Right wingers need to all be put down because they are maniacally insane.


Right-wing outrage is a big industry right now; a lot of people are making serious bank on that sh*t.

But someone on the internet said "I don't see it", so reality must be an illusion, or something.
 
2013-12-12 09:12:39 AM  
But since President Obama came to office in 2009, Cuban leader Raul Castro has signaled that he is interested in a new relationship, according to current and former U.S. officials.

Yeah, it has NOTHING to do with the fact thatFidel stepped aside at the same time, and Raul came into play, willing to talk more with the US, did it? Look, this isn't going to happen overnight, but it also hasn't been solely Obama to this point, Raul Castro has played a part as well...
 
2013-12-12 09:13:15 AM  
The outrage people are talking about is coming from Cuban-Americans.  Both Democrats and Republicans.... FWIW.  For every Marco Rubio, there is an Albio Sires.

It's not a right wing/left wing issue.
 
2013-12-12 09:13:51 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]


SEE: The Internet.
 
2013-12-12 09:16:01 AM  
There seem to be a lot of left-wingers expressing outrage at the failure of right-wingers to be outraged at something that left-wingers say right-wingers are outraged about.
 
2013-12-12 09:16:07 AM  

The Muthaship: I love how the media always tells us of the secret brilliance of every dumb ass move this guy makes.


So your position is that having diplomatic discussions with a country physically close to our own is a dumbass move?

Sounds like your opinion of Obama is sort of like this;
static.someecards.com
 
2013-12-12 09:16:14 AM  

ElLoco: I don't really keep up with these things... but why is there still an embargo again? I'm assuming there's some sort of at least half-assed reason?


The reason is that Fidel Castro is a communist.

The real reason is that Florida is still full of anti-Castro Cuban expats, and no serious candidate for President wants alienate Florida and its 29 EV, so when it comes to Cuba the Republicans whip up their base and the Democrats remain silent.
 
2013-12-12 09:16:32 AM  

ElLoco: I don't really keep up with these things... but why is there still an embargo again? I'm assuming there's some sort of at least half-assed reason?


So some people can say to the Cuban American vote in Florida, look we are tough on Castro and the regime will fall anytime about now. That in turn apparently convinces the Cuban Americans to vote for whoever makes the claim.
 
2013-12-12 09:16:36 AM  

GORDON: LasersHurt: GORDON: Dimensio: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage

You are correct. For all of the claims of outrage, absolutely no one has actually expressed any outrage.

In your world, is there a difference between noticing a thing, and having outrage over it?

In your world, does completely ignoring peoples' behavior mean that it never happened?

That doesn't make any kind of sense as a retort.  Some peeps calling out "right wingers" for being "outraged," I am asking for evidence of this and claiming "just noting it doesn't count as outrage," and you've got nothing.  I win.


Would you prefer pink or purple for your ribbon?
 
2013-12-12 09:16:38 AM  

fireclown: The Muthaship: I love how the media always tells us of the secret brilliance of every dumb ass move this guy makes.

 Only MSNBC does it with TOTAL reliability.

It's not the worst plan ever.  Cuba is just off our (the US) coast.  Sooner or later someone who isn't a Castro is going to be in charge of it and we can start dealing with it as we would with any other country.  Raul is kind of a place holder, he isn't Fidel, but he's still a Castro so we can't really end this embargo yet.  Shaking his hand isn't THAT big of a deal, but it shows that we will eventually be willing to start talking to them.


Meanwhile, the rest of the world views (and trades with, and visits) Cuba the same way they do any other Carribean island.
 
2013-12-12 09:16:55 AM  
This 1972 USA surrender photo never got much coverage...
upload.wikimedia.org
... although it marked the beginning of the end for millions of middle class Americans when Mao pulled the old switcheroo on the Capitalist Roader.
 
2013-12-12 09:18:17 AM  

Mikey1969: Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

SEE: The Internet.


ISWYDT, but folks are pointing to Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz and right wing outrage over this.  I can point to Albio Sires (D-NJ8) and show you the same outrage.

The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.
 
2013-12-12 09:18:32 AM  

SpectroBoy: Sounds like your opinion of Obama is sort of like this;


Funny that you got that from my opinion of the media, but ok.
 
2013-12-12 09:18:56 AM  

LasersHurt: GORDON: LasersHurt: GORDON: Dimensio: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage

You are correct. For all of the claims of outrage, absolutely no one has actually expressed any outrage.

In your world, is there a difference between noticing a thing, and having outrage over it?

In your world, does completely ignoring peoples' behavior mean that it never happened?

That doesn't make any kind of sense as a retort.  Some peeps calling out "right wingers" for being "outraged," I am asking for evidence of this and claiming "just noting it doesn't count as outrage," and you've got nothing.  I win.

You've put in literally Zero effort to look into the reactions from the right, yet here you are saying nobody was bothered and that you win. This sounds like par for the course, I guess, but really. Shamefully lazy.


Didn't someone actually post an excerpt from Freeperville, which included all kinds of crazy stuff about Marxism and Communism and bowing, in one of the previous threads on this?  I feel like it was a big old collection of crazy quotes.
 
2013-12-12 09:20:08 AM  

The Muthaship: Dimensio: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage

You are correct. For all of the claims of outrage, absolutely no one has actually expressed any outrage.

Nice.  2 from an actual Cuban refugee, and one from a talking head.  You win, I guess.


GORDON claimed not to have observed any outrage. Any single demonstration of "outrage" is sufficient to demonstrate his observation not to be representative of reality.
 
2013-12-12 09:20:20 AM  

clkeagle: Meanwhile, the rest of the world views (and trades with, and visits) Cuba the same way they do any other Carribean island.


Yup.  I agree that embargo has long outlived its usefulness by decades.  But the Castro regime (including Raul) have to be gone for the embargo to end.  It's dumb, but those seem to be the rules.  If we can lay a little groundwork in the meantime, so be it.
 
2013-12-12 09:21:56 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: There seem to be a lot of left-wingers expressing outrage at the failure of right-wingers to be outraged at something that left-wingers say right-wingers are outraged about.


Well, just to be sure, somebody should issue a public apology to Sarah Palin. Isn't it time for her morning apology, any way? She'll get cranky without her morning apology, and then how will she get anything done before her first mid-afternoon apology?
 
2013-12-12 09:22:08 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.


"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain
 
2013-12-12 09:22:19 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: Mikey1969: Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

SEE: The Internet.

ISWYDT, but folks are pointing to Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz and right wing outrage over this.  I can point to Albio Sires (D-NJ8) and show you the same outrage.

The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.


True. However, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are national figures and prominent leaders in their party, whereas I'm a northeast Democrat and still have no idea who Albio Sires is.
 
2013-12-12 09:23:43 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: The outrage people are talking about is coming from Cuban-Americans.  Both Democrats and Republicans.... FWIW.  For every Marco Rubio, there is an Albio Sires.

It's not a right wing/left wing issue.


I was unaware that Senator John McCain was a Cuban-American.
 
2013-12-12 09:25:06 AM  

EyeballKid: THE GREAT NAME: There seem to be a lot of left-wingers expressing outrage at the failure of right-wingers to be outraged at something that left-wingers say right-wingers are outraged about.

Well, just to be sure, somebody should issue a public apology to Sarah Palin. Isn't it time for her morning apology, any way? She'll get cranky without her morning apology, and then how will she get anything done before her first mid-afternoon apology?


Bu...But.. Sarah Palin!
 
2013-12-12 09:25:10 AM  

Dimensio: Any single demonstration of "outrage" is sufficient to demonstrate his observation not to be representative of reality.


If you believe it, it's true.
 
2013-12-12 09:27:40 AM  

qorkfiend: Smoky Dragon Dish: Mikey1969: Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

SEE: The Internet.

ISWYDT, but folks are pointing to Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz and right wing outrage over this.  I can point to Albio Sires (D-NJ8) and show you the same outrage.

The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

True. However, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are national figures and prominent leaders in their party, whereas I'm a northeast Democrat and still have no idea who Albio Sires is.


Fair enough, but my point is that any outrage stems from cultural identity.  Sen. Menendez, arguably a national figure and Cuban-American (and liberal Democrat), has frequently spoken out against both Castros and any US decision that even slightly favors Cuba.
 
2013-12-12 09:28:10 AM  

Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain


That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.
 
2013-12-12 09:29:51 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.


Just what this site needs, more inept lazy trolls.
 
2013-12-12 09:30:52 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: Mikey1969: Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

SEE: The Internet.

ISWYDT, but folks are pointing to Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz and right wing outrage over this.  I can point to Albio Sires (D-NJ8) and show you the same outrage.

The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.


That bolded part was the OP's point. The people on the Right who get pissed each time Obama draws a new breath represent the group that are getting outraged over this, which is a statement that didn't need to be made, since it already confirmed its own existence. Obama DID do something, so that particular group of people IS outraged. It doesn't mean the entire Right.
 
2013-12-12 09:32:27 AM  
Even the tiniest amount of effort can confirm it, though. There are video clips of people from Fox News, etc. There are articles and opinion pieces written. There is a pile of tangible evidence to support it.
Idly claiming that it's not happening because the link posted on Fark at that very second doesn't confirm it is ridiculous, and playing on the idea that people will be too lazy to check and just accept it



You're right! People are freaking out everywhere!!!!

You hear what you want to hear, my friend.
 
2013-12-12 09:32:56 AM  

Wooly Bully: THE GREAT NAME: That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Just what this site needs, more inept lazy trolls.


Hey douchebag, you know there's no such thing as a left-libertarian, right? Can't trust a man who doesn't even know his own political orientation.
 
2013-12-12 09:34:53 AM  

Wooly Bully: -- noted Cuban John McCain


He's Panamanian, you racist.
 
2013-12-12 09:35:03 AM  

doubled99: Even the tiniest amount of effort can confirm it, though. There are video clips of people from Fox News, etc. There are articles and opinion pieces written. There is a pile of tangible evidence to support it.
Idly claiming that it's not happening because the link posted on Fark at that very second doesn't confirm it is ridiculous, and playing on the idea that people will be too lazy to check and just accept it


You're right! People are freaking out everywhere!!!!

You hear what you want to hear, my friend.


Seriously? Really. You're gonna try and turn around your own twisted ignorance on me? No thanks.
 
2013-12-12 09:35:47 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments


Comparison to Hitler is not a counter-argument.
 
2013-12-12 09:36:24 AM  

qorkfiend: ElLoco: I don't really keep up with these things... but why is there still an embargo again? I'm assuming there's some sort of at least half-assed reason?

The reason is that Fidel Castro is a communist.

The real reason is that Florida is still full of anti-Castro Cuban expats, and no serious candidate for President wants alienate Florida and its 29 EV, so when it comes to Cuba the Republicans whip up their base and the Democrats remain silent.


I'd agree with the second half completely and the first half only sorta.  The reasoning I've heard in talking to US Treasury Agents (I was interviewed by two for *allegedly* taking a group of about 20 high school students to Cuba in 2005) is because the Cuban government seized all kinds of corporate assets after the Cuban Revolution and only paid the corporations a small fraction of what they were worth.  Until the government apologizes and either gives the corporations their property back and/or pays them in full for the lost value, the embargo will remain in place.  If I remember correctly, the Cuban Government paid the corporations the value that the corp.s claimed on their Cuban taxes, so it was a pretty hilarious troll by Castro.
 
2013-12-12 09:36:37 AM  

Dimensio: Smoky Dragon Dish: The outrage people are talking about is coming from Cuban-Americans.  Both Democrats and Republicans.... FWIW.  For every Marco Rubio, there is an Albio Sires.

It's not a right wing/left wing issue.

I was unaware that Senator John McCain was a Cuban-American.


And that is apropos why?  He went full Godwin out of the gate when asked a question.  This is the guy who gave us Sarah Palin.  He's batshiat crazy.
 
2013-12-12 09:37:04 AM  

Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain


-- Rand Paul
 
2013-12-12 09:37:24 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.


Reductio ad Hitlerum not a "perceptive and pertinent observation".
 
2013-12-12 09:37:41 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.


Yeah, tell us all about "libs" and what "libs" do.
Do you ever have anything of any actual substance to contribute to any discussion? Do you have any views of your own at all?
As far as I can see, you stand for nothing beyond the imaginary conversations you have with the "libs" who live inside your head.
Try to contribute something constructive to a discussion, just once - just to show us that you can.
If you can, that is.
 
2013-12-12 09:37:55 AM  
It is definitely a Cuban/Cuban-American outrage.  Being in an area with much Cuban culture and seeing/hearing reactions to this was consistent and not based on party affiliation.  Trying to make it left v right detracts from what is at the heart of the matter.
 
2013-12-12 09:38:51 AM  
we all took a big bite

No.
 
2013-12-12 09:39:00 AM  
Birds of a feather......
 
2013-12-12 09:39:40 AM  

Dimensio: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.

Reductio ad Hitlerum not a "perceptive and pertinent observation".


What exactly is it about Hitler and the Nazis that make them - and only them - inadmissible for the purposes of learning from history?
 
2013-12-12 09:39:50 AM  

Mikey1969: Smoky Dragon Dish: Mikey1969: Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

SEE: The Internet.

ISWYDT, but folks are pointing to Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz and right wing outrage over this.  I can point to Albio Sires (D-NJ8) and show you the same outrage.

The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

That bolded part was the OP's point. The people on the Right who get pissed each time Obama draws a new breath represent the group that are getting outraged over this, which is a statement that didn't need to be made, since it already confirmed its own existence. Obama DID do something, so that particular group of people IS outraged. It doesn't mean the entire Right.


FIFY...  OP said the *only* ones upset about this are the crazies obsessed with hating Obama.

My point is that there are a set of people who support Obama that are outrage over this.
 
2013-12-12 09:39:55 AM  

Bruce Campbell: It is definitely a Cuban/Cuban-American outrage.  Being in an area with much Cuban culture and seeing/hearing reactions to this was consistent and not based on party affiliation.  Trying to make it left v right detracts from what is at the heart of the matter.


What does ignoring the reactions of right-wing non-Cubans do?
 
2013-12-12 09:41:59 AM  

jso2897: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.

Yeah, tell us all about "libs" and what "libs" do.
Do you ever have anything of any actual substance to contribute to any discussion? Do you have any views of your own at all?
As far as I can see, you stand for nothing beyond the imaginary conversations you have with the "libs" who live inside your head.
Try to contribute something constructive to a discussion, just once - just to show us that you can.
If you can, that is.


You sound pubescent. Nevertheless I will indulge you:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/13/confirmed-conservatives-unders ta nd-liberal-positions-better-than-liberals-understand-conservative-posi tions/
 
2013-12-12 09:42:45 AM  

Bruce Campbell: It is definitely a Cuban/Cuban-American outrage.  Being in an area with much Cuban culture and seeing/hearing reactions to this was consistent and not based on party affiliation.  Trying to make it left v right detracts from what is at the heart of the matter.


Exactly.
 
2013-12-12 09:44:19 AM  
No one has ever seen this before. I just know it!

www2.gwu.edu
 
2013-12-12 09:44:33 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: Mikey1969: Smoky Dragon Dish: Mikey1969: Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

SEE: The Internet.

ISWYDT, but folks are pointing to Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz and right wing outrage over this.  I can point to Albio Sires (D-NJ8) and show you the same outrage.

The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

That bolded part was the OP's point. The people on the Right who get pissed each time Obama draws a new breath represent the group that are getting outraged over this, which is a statement that didn't need to be made, since it already confirmed its own existence. Obama DID do something, so that particular group of people IS outraged. It doesn't mean the entire Right.

FIFY...  OP said the *only* ones upset about this are the crazies obsessed with hating Obama.

My point is that there are a set of people who support Obama that are outrage over this.


I am dissapoint. Who is outraged? Do you have a time machine to poll Americans from the 60's on this issue?
 
2013-12-12 09:44:40 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: You sound pubescent. Nevertheless I will indulge you:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/13/confirmed-conservatives-unders ta nd-liberal-positions-better-than-liberals-understand-conservative-posi tions/


Calls a name. Cites HotAir. Lulz had.
 
2013-12-12 09:45:22 AM  
Everyone above this post has been trolled.

Everyone below this post has been trolled and wants more.

As for me, I need a root beer to wash down my popcorn.

//subby
 
2013-12-12 09:45:26 AM  

Your Hind Brain: No one has ever seen this before. I just know it!

[www2.gwu.edu image 300x200]


Uh-oh!!! now all the libs are outraged too!!1
 
2013-12-12 09:47:13 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: jso2897: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.

Yeah, tell us all about "libs" and what "libs" do.
Do you ever have anything of any actual substance to contribute to any discussion? Do you have any views of your own at all?
As far as I can see, you stand for nothing beyond the imaginary conversations you have with the "libs" who live inside your head.
Try to contribute something constructive to a discussion, just once - just to show us that you can.
If you can, that is.

You sound pubescent. Nevertheless I will indulge you:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/13/confirmed-conservatives-unders ta nd-liberal-positions-better-than-liberals-understand-conservative-posi tions/


No. That's just another right wing blog about "what liberals think".
I'm asking you what YOU think - if indeed, you think anything at all - and you don't seem to be coming up with any answers.
(Save yourself the keystrokes of name-calling, like "pubescent" - I just ignore that stuff)
It's starting to look like you don't really have any coherent, expressable views at all.
DO you?
 
2013-12-12 09:47:34 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Dimensio: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.

Reductio ad Hitlerum not a "perceptive and pertinent observation".

What exactly is it about Hitler and the Nazis that make them - and only them - inadmissible for the purposes of learning from history?


Your question implies a position that I have not stated.
 
2013-12-12 09:49:13 AM  

LasersHurt: Bruce Campbell: It is definitely a Cuban/Cuban-American outrage.  Being in an area with much Cuban culture and seeing/hearing reactions to this was consistent and not based on party affiliation.  Trying to make it left v right detracts from what is at the heart of the matter.

What does ignoring the reactions of right-wing non-Cubans do?


The issue that started this was the very Boobies in this thread, that the ONLY people expressing outrage over this are the crazy right wingers who hate everything Obama does or doesn't do.  Of course they're outraged, since Obama exists and he did or did not do something.  They would have found a way to be outraged if he DIDN'T shake Raul's hand.

But, there is genuine outrage from the Cuban-American community, which I cannot identify with, but I recognize as existing.  This outrage crosses political boundaries with regard to right/left ideologies.

That's my point.
 
2013-12-12 09:51:33 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: Mikey1969: Smoky Dragon Dish: Mikey1969: Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

SEE: The Internet.

ISWYDT, but folks are pointing to Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz and right wing outrage over this.  I can point to Albio Sires (D-NJ8) and show you the same outrage.

The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

That bolded part was the OP's point. The people on the Right who get pissed each time Obama draws a new breath represent the group that are getting outraged over this, which is a statement that didn't need to be made, since it already confirmed its own existence. Obama DID do something, so that particular group of people IS outraged. It doesn't mean the entire Right.

FIFY...  OP said the *only* ones upset about this are the crazies obsessed with hating Obama.

My point is that there are a set of people who support Obama that are outrage over this.


Didn't notice the "only ones" part. I was really talking about the ones who can't handle anything Obama does... But yeah, there's lefties out there who are butthurt, too.
 
2013-12-12 09:53:13 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: LasersHurt: Bruce Campbell: It is definitely a Cuban/Cuban-American outrage.  Being in an area with much Cuban culture and seeing/hearing reactions to this was consistent and not based on party affiliation.  Trying to make it left v right detracts from what is at the heart of the matter.

What does ignoring the reactions of right-wing non-Cubans do?

The issue that started this was the very Boobies in this thread, that the ONLY people expressing outrage over this are the crazy right wingers who hate everything Obama does or doesn't do.  Of course they're outraged, since Obama exists and he did or did not do something.  They would have found a way to be outraged if he DIDN'T shake Raul's hand.

But, there is genuine outrage from the Cuban-American community, which I cannot identify with, but I recognize as existing.  This outrage crosses political boundaries with regard to right/left ideologies.

That's my point.


But not age lines. Young Cubanos don't give a flying f**k about Castro, or the good old days in Havana.
It's time. There is just no gain to be had from putting it off any longer.
 
2013-12-12 09:54:05 AM  

ElLoco: I don't really keep up with these things... but why is there still an embargo again? I'm assuming there's some sort of at least half-assed reason?


Power struggles; what else?
 
2013-12-12 09:54:47 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: LasersHurt: Bruce Campbell: It is definitely a Cuban/Cuban-American outrage.  Being in an area with much Cuban culture and seeing/hearing reactions to this was consistent and not based on party affiliation.  Trying to make it left v right detracts from what is at the heart of the matter.

What does ignoring the reactions of right-wing non-Cubans do?

The issue that started this was the very Boobies in this thread, that the ONLY people expressing outrage over this are the crazy right wingers who hate everything Obama does or doesn't do.  Of course they're outraged, since Obama exists and he did or did not do something.  They would have found a way to be outraged if he DIDN'T shake Raul's hand.

But, there is genuine outrage from the Cuban-American community, which I cannot identify with, but I recognize as existing.  This outrage crosses political boundaries with regard to right/left ideologies.

That's my point.


Fair enough. I was mostly responding to the ongoing game of "Let's Pretend" going on on Fark lately. That's a separate and legitimate idea.
 
2013-12-12 09:54:51 AM  

jso2897: THE GREAT NAME: jso2897: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.

Yeah, tell us all about "libs" and what "libs" do.
Do you ever have anything of any actual substance to contribute to any discussion? Do you have any views of your own at all?
As far as I can see, you stand for nothing beyond the imaginary conversations you have with the "libs" who live inside your head.
Try to contribute something constructive to a discussion, just once - just to show us that you can.
If you can, that is.

You sound pubescent. Nevertheless I will indulge you:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/13/confirmed-conservatives-unders ta nd-liberal-positions-better-than-liberals-understand-conservative-posi tions/

No. That's just another right wing blog about "what liberals think".
I'm asking you what YOU think - if indeed, you think anything at all - and you don't seem to be coming up with any answers.
(Save yourself the keystrokes of name-calling, like "pubescent" - I just ignore that stuff)
It's starting to look like you don't really have any coherent, expressable views at all.
DO you?


Wow you sound pissed. Settle down, it's only the internet.
 
2013-12-12 09:55:31 AM  

LasersHurt: What does ignoring the reactions of right-wing non-Cubans do?


It does nothing, which is exactly what ignoring is supposed to do.
 
2013-12-12 09:56:58 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: That's my point.


You were right to point out that some people angry about the handshake are non-right-wing Cubans.

But you were wrong when you said "the only people really outraged over this are Cubans".

Now, maybe John McCain wasn't "really" outraged and it was just a bullsh*t pose, but plenty of non-Cuban right-wing derpers out there agreed wholeheartedly with his sentiment whether it was sincere or not.
 
2013-12-12 09:57:27 AM  

Dimensio: THE GREAT NAME: Dimensio: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.

Reductio ad Hitlerum not a "perceptive and pertinent observation".

What exactly is it about Hitler and the Nazis that make them - and only them - inadmissible for the purposes of learning from history?

Your question implies a position that I have not stated.


You have incorrectly stated that your earlier statement does not infer a position, being the one which I questioned, when in fact it does.
 
2013-12-12 09:58:09 AM  

Dimensio: Smoky Dragon Dish: The outrage people are talking about is coming from Cuban-Americans.  Both Democrats and Republicans.... FWIW.  For every Marco Rubio, there is an Albio Sires.

It's not a right wing/left wing issue.

I was unaware that Senator John McCain was a Cuban-American.


Panamanian by birth.
/But close enough.
 
2013-12-12 09:58:48 AM  

jso2897: Smoky Dragon Dish: LasersHurt: Bruce Campbell: It is definitely a Cuban/Cuban-American outrage.  Being in an area with much Cuban culture and seeing/hearing reactions to this was consistent and not based on party affiliation.  Trying to make it left v right detracts from what is at the heart of the matter.

What does ignoring the reactions of right-wing non-Cubans do?

The issue that started this was the very Boobies in this thread, that the ONLY people expressing outrage over this are the crazy right wingers who hate everything Obama does or doesn't do.  Of course they're outraged, since Obama exists and he did or did not do something.  They would have found a way to be outraged if he DIDN'T shake Raul's hand.

But, there is genuine outrage from the Cuban-American community, which I cannot identify with, but I recognize as existing.  This outrage crosses political boundaries with regard to right/left ideologies.

That's my point.

But not age lines. Young Cubanos don't give a flying f**k about Castro, or the good old days in Havana.
It's time. There is just no gain to be had from putting it off any longer.


I tend to agree with that.  Don't mistake what I'm saying for a political ideology. Could you image what effect 'Jersey Shore: La Habana', and McDonalds, and Taco Bell, and rich Americans flooding to Cuban resorts, classic car hunters buying all those automobiles...  we would crush their culture into oblivion.
 
2013-12-12 09:59:46 AM  

Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: That's my point.

You were right to point out that some people angry about the handshake are non-right-wing Cubans.

But you were wrong when you said "the only people really outraged over this are Cubans".

Now, maybe John McCain wasn't "really" outraged and it was just a bullsh*t pose, but plenty of non-Cuban right-wing derpers out there agreed wholeheartedly with his sentiment whether it was sincere or not.


And yet you are unable to name a single one of them. Typical lib. All "big concept", nothing rooted in reality. Wishful thinking mixed with ignorance mixed with hubris.
 
2013-12-12 10:00:00 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: THE GREAT NAME: That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Just what this site needs, more inept lazy trolls.

Hey douchebag, you know there's no such thing as a left-libertarian, right? Can't trust a man who doesn't even know his own political orientation.


Indeed.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism
 
2013-12-12 10:00:20 AM  
THE GREAT NAME: [oeuvre]

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT A LIBERAL BELIEVES, ASK A CONSERVATIVE.

 
2013-12-12 10:01:36 AM  

brantgoose: Oh, noes! He's bowing again!

Put on your fireproof trousers and hoodies, the Conservatives are about to flame!

Then again, he's very tall and the other guy is really short.


Yeah, I saw someone post something to that effect on facebook. I was trying to figure out what the hell he was talking about without clicking on the link. The links he posts are usually from foam at the mouth right wing blogs. Luckily he's the only fb friend I have like that. I keep him on my facebook for the lulz, and morbid curiosity of how the fanatic right wing mind works. I enjoy the intellectual exercise of trying to decode to reality whatever he's talking about.
Oh, and did I say he's a professor of Political Science? Nope. I don't understand how he has a job.
 
2013-12-12 10:01:54 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: jso2897: THE GREAT NAME: jso2897: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.

Yeah, tell us all about "libs" and what "libs" do.
Do you ever have anything of any actual substance to contribute to any discussion? Do you have any views of your own at all?
As far as I can see, you stand for nothing beyond the imaginary conversations you have with the "libs" who live inside your head.
Try to contribute something constructive to a discussion, just once - just to show us that you can.
If you can, that is.

You sound pubescent. Nevertheless I will indulge you:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/13/confirmed-conservatives-unders ta nd-liberal-positions-better-than-liberals-understand-conservative-posi tions/

No. That's just another right wing blog about "what liberals think".
I'm asking you what YOU think - if indeed, you think anything at all - and you don't seem to be coming up with any answers.
(Save yourself the keystrokes of name-calling, like "pubescent" - I just ignore that stuff)
It's starting to look like you don't really have any coherent, expressable views at all.
DO you?

Wow you sound pissed. Settle down, it's only the internet.


No, it's cool - I was just curious. Not surprised.
 
2013-12-12 10:02:30 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Oh John, you silly goose.
 
2013-12-12 10:04:36 AM  

Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: That's my point.

You were right to point out that some people angry about the handshake are non-right-wing Cubans.

But you were wrong when you said "the only people really outraged over this are Cubans".

Now, maybe John McCain wasn't "really" outraged and it was just a bullsh*t pose, but plenty of non-Cuban right-wing derpers out there agreed wholeheartedly with his sentiment whether it was sincere or not.


Touche.  Made the same mistake of OP.
 
2013-12-12 10:05:39 AM  

Fart_Machine: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: THE GREAT NAME: That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Just what this site needs, more inept lazy trolls.

Hey douchebag, you know there's no such thing as a left-libertarian, right? Can't trust a man who doesn't even know his own political orientation.

Indeed.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism

Pants full of macaroni!!: THE GREAT NAME: [oeuvre]

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT A LIBERAL BELIEVES, ASK A CONSERVATIVE.


Hey whiney pants do you smash all the mirrors in your house. Cause you sure are scared of being shown yourself.
 
2013-12-12 10:05:39 AM  
We?
 
2013-12-12 10:05:55 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: Touche. Made the same mistake of OP.


Respect!
 
2013-12-12 10:07:02 AM  

jso2897: No. That's just another right wing blog about "what liberals think".
I'm asking you what YOU think - if indeed, you think anything at all - and you don't seem to be coming up with any answers.
(Save yourself the keystrokes of name-calling, like "pubescent" - I just ignore that stuff)
It's starting to look like you don't really have any coherent, expressable views at all.
DO you?


He sure does know how to condescend though!

And ultimately, isn't that what really matters?
 
2013-12-12 10:07:33 AM  
shaking hands is an act of kindness,

the GOP hates kindness in all forms.

Feel the hate flow through you....
 
2013-12-12 10:07:36 AM  

GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage


So you missed McCain equating it to Chamberlain shaking Hitler's hand?
 
2013-12-12 10:07:40 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Hey whiney pants do you smash all the mirrors in your house. Cause you sure are scared of being shown yourself.


See what I mean?
 
2013-12-12 10:08:02 AM  
Not sure what the point of a well-planned troll would be; it's not like Obama has to put forth any effort (or take any action at all) to troll the GOP.

/Switching parties, THAT would be a troll
 
2013-12-12 10:08:28 AM  

Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

Oh John, you silly goose.


He did nothing wrong there. None of this is wrong.
What are our leaders supposed to do when they are on the world stage, with the eyes of the world on them, and they encounter the leaders of regimes that are less than exemplary? Abandon all social graces? When offered the hand of a Raul Castro on  Moamar Khaddaffi. should our President or Vice President or Secretary of State spin on his heel like Mick Jagger on Ed Sullivan?
What the f**k do people expect them to do?
 
2013-12-12 10:09:42 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: jso2897: No. That's just another right wing blog about "what liberals think".
I'm asking you what YOU think - if indeed, you think anything at all - and you don't seem to be coming up with any answers.
(Save yourself the keystrokes of name-calling, like "pubescent" - I just ignore that stuff)
It's starting to look like you don't really have any coherent, expressable views at all.
DO you?

He sure does know how to condescend though!

And ultimately, isn't that what really matters?


NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)
 
GBB
2013-12-12 10:11:34 AM  
cla.calpoly.edu
Sometimes a handshake is just a handshake.
 
2013-12-12 10:11:43 AM  
Here, cons, claiming, "Outrage? What outrage? There was an outrage?" This is more believable:

www.blindfiveyearold.com
 
2013-12-12 10:11:49 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Fart_Machine: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: THE GREAT NAME: That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Just what this site needs, more inept lazy trolls.

Hey douchebag, you know there's no such thing as a left-libertarian, right? Can't trust a man who doesn't even know his own political orientation.

Indeed.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism
Pants full of macaroni!!: THE GREAT NAME: [oeuvre]

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT A LIBERAL BELIEVES, ASK A CONSERVATIVE.

Hey whiney pants do you smash all the mirrors in your house. Cause you sure are scared of being shown yourself.


Did you have a stroke or something?
 
2013-12-12 10:14:11 AM  

jso2897: Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

Oh John, you silly goose.

He did nothing wrong there. None of this is wrong.
What are our leaders supposed to do when they are on the world stage, with the eyes of the world on them, and they encounter the leaders of regimes that are less than exemplary? Abandon all social graces? When offered the hand of a Raul Castro on  Moamar Khaddaffi. should our President or Vice President or Secretary of State spin on his heel like Mick Jagger on Ed Sullivan?
What the f**k do people expect them to do?


I expect him to keep his farking mouth shut and not compare Obama shaking hands with Castro to Chamberlain shaking hands with Hitler.
 
2013-12-12 10:16:14 AM  

The Evil Home Brewer: We need to get past this cold war induced hysteria with Cuba and move on. So they probably have nukes left over from their association with the former Soviet Union...

Continuing this embargo against a neighbor 90 miles from Florida is just causing unnecessary suffering for their people (and the potential loss of additional economic markets we could take advantage of because of the proximity and lower shipping costs for US products than what we pay to ship to Europe or Asia).

If we really want their society to crumble? Lift the embargo and send representatives of the major US fast food chains to Cuba as ambassadors.

On a more serious note? The Chinese are communists too.... yet they have become preferred trading partners with the US because of their manufacturing base and willingness to pollute their own country to manufacture crap we are willing to buy.

So Fidel Castro probably had JFK assassinated.... The guy is sitting in a wheelchair drooling on himself .... if he's still alive. That was 50 years ago.... Time to move on.

His brother Raul seems to be a more reasonable and easier to deal with. Time to begin accepting shipments of Cuban cigars again. If we get Cuban cigars and they get McDonalds? .... We won the cold war.


Agree with pretty much your whole post, except I'd be surprised if Russia left any nukes in Cuba.
 
2013-12-12 10:19:35 AM  

Dimensio: GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage

You are correct. For all of the claims of outrage, absolutely no one has actually expressed any outrage.



Burn.
 
2013-12-12 10:20:19 AM  

Free Radical: jso2897: Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

Oh John, you silly goose.

He did nothing wrong there. None of this is wrong.
What are our leaders supposed to do when they are on the world stage, with the eyes of the world on them, and they encounter the leaders of regimes that are less than exemplary? Abandon all social graces? When offered the hand of a Raul Castro on  Moamar Khaddaffi. should our President or Vice President or Secretary of State spin on his heel like Mick Jagger on Ed Sullivan?
What the f**k do people expect them to do?

I expect him to keep his farking mouth shut and not compare Obama shaking hands with Castro to Chamberlain shaking hands with Hitler.


You know Free Radical, the fact you are free owes more to people like John McCain than to people like Fidel/Raul Castro. You do know that, right? Or are you just another lib who "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!"
 
2013-12-12 10:21:11 AM  
As I tried to tell someone at work during a discussion on the merits of pineapple on pizza, not every issue can be reduced to a "people who identify with conservatives" vs "people who identify with liberals" argument. And they did anyway.

Much like various signals that Obama's presidency is illegitimate because he opens his eggs on the wrong side, there's a guy at work who's so consistently against any idea I come up with has reached the point where it's just a running joke. My solution? I have other people on the team suggest my ideas, and he gives them a fair shake. The problem? It wasn't my solution; it was the other team members AND the guy's supervisor. At this point, everyone involved has become skeptical of everything he says.

// Not so CSB: my family has been torn apart by outrage. Specifically, my observations that several people are constantly outraged by various slights against their world-view are, obviously, outrageous. I am tired.
 
2013-12-12 10:22:29 AM  
"While human rights have played no role in the US outreach to Iran in recent weeks, they remain at the center of U.S. policy goals for Cuba. The 1996 legislation that codified the U.S. embargo of the island, known as Helms-Burton, explicitly says the embargo shall not be lifted until Cuba releases political prisoners and holds free and fair elections."

Human rights in Cuba is a nice way to placate the Cuban expats while making the embargo look good to the international community. It obscures the fact that Cuba is a purely sphere-of-influence issue for the US, and the end goal is not to liberate the island but to incorporate it as a satellite for tourism. Human rights in Iran isn't an issue (yet) because they have the threat of nuclear weapons as an even better boogeyman - they don't have to publicly give a shiat about what people's lives are like in Iran (not as bad as in Cuba, from what I understand, and considerably less prone to incarceration than in the US) when they can publicly pretend to give a shiat about people's lives in Israel.
 
2013-12-12 10:22:54 AM  

SlothB77: Why is the media so thrilled by this?

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: Castro! He's shaking hands with Raul Castro.
CHRIS CUOMO: As Christiane points out, President Obama just shook hands with Raul Castro from Cuba.  What does that say as a gesture?
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: It says that this a moment of reconciliation for Mandela. And President Obama is doing the diplomatic thing. He's not just going to walk by and ignore these people who are there.  And they're all in a line.  He's kissing now the U.N. Secretary General, President Zuma.
ROBYN CURNOW: This is a man, and it is so true, who brought people together in life and he continues to bring people together in death.

The media is having orgasms over Obama shaking hands with Castro.  Why is that?  What does that say about them?  Does that seem a bit odd to you?
I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.


There are American in prison in damn near every country you could name on an unlabeled map and then some.
 
2013-12-12 10:23:15 AM  
Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D
 
2013-12-12 10:24:21 AM  

doubled99: What is with this meme in the last couple of days where people pretend that nobody at all is reacting negatively to things? Every thread is all "Psh nobody on the right is overreacting, now or ever. Duh."


It fits perfectly with the plethora of stories claiming "people are outraged and offended" over something then have no citation other than some random Twitter comments somewhere.


www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com
"Nobody has expressed any outrage whatsoever.  The talking heads on TV don't count.  The bloggers don't count.  The congressmen don't count.  The ordinary people on Twitter and Facebook don't count.  See, no outrage.  How dare you libtards accuse us of being outraged?"
 
2013-12-12 10:27:22 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[citationneeded.gif]


In the middle of the ocean, there is a mountain of granite 10 miles high, 10 miles wide, and 10 miles long.  Once every thousand years, a hummingbird flies to the mountain and sharpens its beak.  When the mountain has disappeared, that will be like 1 second of the eternal hatred right wingers hold for President Obama.
 
2013-12-12 10:27:30 AM  
Its pony time :D
 
2013-12-12 10:27:34 AM  

GORDON: I've never seen anyone actually outraged over it, but I have seen a lot of people talking about the right wing's outrage.

/outrage


Look harder.
 
2013-12-12 10:29:27 AM  

Stile4aly: Smoky Dragon Dish: Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do

[citationneeded.gif]

In the middle of the ocean, there is a mountain of granite 10 miles high, 10 miles wide, and 10 miles long.  Once every thousand years, a hummingbird flies to the mountain and sharpens its beak.  When the mountain has disappeared, that will be like 1 second of the eternal hatred right wingers hold for President Obama.


Keep reading through the thread, see the rest of my comments.
 
2013-12-12 10:29:41 AM  

Nappy Imus: Its pony time :D


Crap it rejected my pic. Lets try again. . .

runningponies.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-12 10:30:10 AM  

Nappy Imus: Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D


You're so convinced of you lib opinions, that you can't even accept as human those who disagree. Sad, really. Luckily libs are not as organised as the Germans otherwise you would no doubt start Holocausting those who do not share stupid lib opinions.
 
2013-12-12 10:30:47 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Free Radical: jso2897: Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

You know Free Radical, the fact you are free owes more to people like John McCain than to people like Fidel/Raul Castro. You do know that, right? Or are you just another lib who "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!"


When people like John McCain shake hands hands with the likes of Qaddafi, I cannot trust that they will keep me free or safe from terrorism.
 
2013-12-12 10:32:45 AM  

Nappy Imus: Its pony time :D


i18.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-12 10:33:28 AM  
"We," subby? Some us believe a 60 year old feud with the evil communism Red Menace is a pointless waste of resources.
 
2013-12-12 10:34:26 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Nappy Imus: Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D

You're so convinced of you lib opinions, that you can't even accept as human those who disagree. Sad, really. Luckily libs are not as organised as the Germans otherwise you would no doubt start Holocausting those who do not share stupid lib opinions.


See? I'm neither a liberal nor a conservative, I just made an observation using the bots name, and it automatically replies with something nasty. Also, how could I disagree with your opinions with a previous poster proved, no doubt, that you have none of your own? Ah, now I have crossed into fail, though, because I'm arguing with a bot. Sad, really :D
 
2013-12-12 10:36:09 AM  

Nappy Imus: Its pony time :D


Broncos don't play until this evening.
 
2013-12-12 10:36:18 AM  

Nappy Imus: THE GREAT NAME: Nappy Imus: Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D

You're so convinced of you lib opinions, that you can't even accept as human those who disagree. Sad, really. Luckily libs are not as organised as the Germans otherwise you would no doubt start Holocausting those who do not share stupid lib opinions.

See? I'm neither a liberal nor a conservative, I just made an observation using the bots name, and it automatically replies with something nasty. Also, how could I disagree with your opinions with a previous poster proved, no doubt, that you have none of your own? Ah, now I have crossed into fail, though, because I'm arguing with a bot. Sad, really :D


I should really start proofreading my posts. . .
 
2013-12-12 10:36:45 AM  

SlothB77: there are Americans in prison in Cuba. Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand


There are Americans in prison in American. Obama's got no business touching himself at night.
 
2013-12-12 10:38:22 AM  

Free Radical: THE GREAT NAME: Free Radical: jso2897: Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

You know Free Radical, the fact you are free owes more to people like John McCain than to people like Fidel/Raul Castro. You do know that, right? Or are you just another lib who "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!"

When people like John McCain shake hands hands with the likes of Qaddafi, I cannot trust that they will keep me free or safe from terrorism.


Ha! and you accuse conservatives of outrage when Obama shakes the hand of a communist!
 
2013-12-12 10:39:12 AM  

fireclown: Yup. I agree that embargo has long outlived its usefulness by decades. But the Castro regime (including Raul) have to be gone for the embargo to end. It's dumb, but those seem to be the rules. If we can lay a little groundwork in the meantime, so be it.


While we did reach detente with Vietnam, the Soviets, and China, we did not do it while Le Duan, Khrushchev and Mao were still in office. Castro still is.

There's also that issue of October 1962, which ended when the Soviets realized Castro was actually planning on launching the missiles instead of using them as a MAD trade-off, and took them back. Again, that guy is still in charge.
 
2013-12-12 10:39:54 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)


Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.
 
2013-12-12 10:41:21 AM  

stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.


Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.
 
2013-12-12 10:41:39 AM  
So let me get this straight...

The Obama Administration has been quietly for the last 2 months been trying to begin talks with Cuba (which realistically we knew was going on after they announced that Cubans could start traveling there, or whatever that was) and when they got the chance to meet publically at a event on neutral ground, Castro offered his hand and probably told Obama he was ready to talk more and start normalizing relations.

So this is what I see...

1. End 2 wars and start pulling most troops out

2. Killed Osama bin Laden

3. Helped End Gadhafi's dictatorship (not much you can do afterwards with its ppl, they have to sort that out)

4. Something something Egypt... What can you do about people that want to vote stupid in though.

5. Starting process of normalizing relations with Iran

6. Starting process of normalizing relations with Cuba

/but he's worse President ever, not 'cause he's black, god no, how can you bring race into it!? He's just an empty suit do nothing that we're threatened by because he does stuff, oh and he's a communist, marxist, socialist, nazi, fascist, liberal, kenyan, uppity ni.... uhhh... democrat...! Yea! What's the problem with all these bl.... blah people???
 
2013-12-12 10:42:29 AM  

fireclown: we can't really end this embargo yet


The embargo might have been justified when the Soviet Union was still around.  It's total bullschitt today, and only props up Castro by giving him an excuse for not delivering the goods.
 
2013-12-12 10:42:42 AM  

Nappy Imus: Ah, now I have crossed into fail, though, because I'm arguing with a bot. Sad, really :D


I have him farkied as boring troll because he wasn't even worth coming up with a better description. It improves the thread immensely.
 
2013-12-12 10:43:47 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.


I couldn't care less about what you do with your alts.  It's just good to see having alts for the sole purpose of trolling is cool now.
 
2013-12-12 10:43:54 AM  

KellyX: Yea! What's the problem with all these bl.... blah people???


And, don't get me started on those government nigs!
 
2013-12-12 10:45:35 AM  

This text is now purple: fireclown: Yup. I agree that embargo has long outlived its usefulness by decades. But the Castro regime (including Raul) have to be gone for the embargo to end. It's dumb, but those seem to be the rules. If we can lay a little groundwork in the meantime, so be it.

While we did reach detente with Vietnam, the Soviets, and China, we did not do it while Le Duan, Khrushchev and Mao were still in office. Castro still is.

There's also that issue of October 1962, which ended when the Soviets realized Castro was actually planning on launching the missiles instead of using them as a MAD trade-off, and took them back. Again, that guy is still in charge.



Really? You might want to check that.
 
2013-12-12 10:45:44 AM  

stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.


It can have other bad consequences as well - did I ever tell you guys about the man who taught his asshole to talk? His whole abdomen would move up and down you dig farting out the words. It was unlike anything I ever heard.
This ass talk had sort of a gut frequency. It hit you right down there like you gotta go. You know when the old colon gives you the elbow and it feels sorta cold inside, and you know all you have to do is turn loose? Well this talking hit you right down there, a bubbly, thick stagnant sound, a sound you could smell.
This man worked for a carnival you dig, and to start with it was like a novelty ventriliquist act. Real funny, too, at first. He had a number he called "The Better 'Ole" that was a scream, I tell you. I forget most of it but it was clever. Like, "Oh I say, are you still down there, old thing?"
"Nah I had to go relieve myself."
After a while the ass start talking on its own. He would go in without anything prepared and his ass would ad-lib and toss the gags back at him every time.
Then it developed sort of teeth-like little raspy in-curving hooks and started eating. He thought this was cute at first and built an act around it, but the asshole would eat its way through his pants and start talking on the street, shouting out it wanted equal rights. It would get drunk, too, and have crying jags nobody loved it and it wanted to be kissed same as any other mouth. Finally it talked all the time day and night, you could hear him for blocks screaming at it to shut up, and beating it with his fist, and sticking candles up it, but nothing did any good and the asshole said to him: "It's you who will shut up in the end. Not me. Because we dont need you around here any more. I can talk and eat and shiat."
After that he began waking up in the morning with a transparent jelly like a tadpole's tail all over his mouth. This jelly was what the scientists call un-D.T., Undifferentiated Tissue, which can grow into any kind of flesh on the human body. He would tear it off his mouth and the pieces would stick to his hands like burning gasoline jelly and grow there, grow anywhere on him a glob of it fell. So finally his mouth sealed over, and the whole head would have have amputated spontaneous - (did you know there is a condition occurs in parts of Africa and only among Negroes where the little toe amputates spontaneously?) - except for the eyes you dig. Thats one thing the asshole couldn't do was see. It needed the eyes. But nerve connections were blocked and infiltrated and atrophied so the brain couldn't give orders any more. It was trapped in the skull, sealed off. For a while you could see the silent, helpless suffering of the brain behind the eyes, then finally the brain must have died, because the eyes went out, and there was no more feeling in them than a crab's eyes on the end of a stalk.

That's the sort of thing that creating sock-puppets can lead to.
 
2013-12-12 10:46:18 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Free Radical: THE GREAT NAME: Free Radical: jso2897: Free Radical: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x546]

You know Free Radical, the fact you are free owes more to people like John McCain than to people like Fidel/Raul Castro. You do know that, right? Or are you just another lib who "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!"

When people like John McCain shake hands hands with the likes of Qaddafi, I cannot trust that they will keep me free or safe from terrorism.

Ha! and you accuse conservatives of outrage when Obama shakes the hand of a communist!


I didn't accuse him of outrage, I pointed out his hypocrisy.
 
2013-12-12 10:46:59 AM  

stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.

I couldn't care less about what you do with your alts.  It's just good to see having alts for the sole purpose of trolling is cool now.


Nope, not trolling. The alts are there to provide better lib arguments than actual libs can manage, so that NAME has something to get NAME's teeth into.
 
2013-12-12 10:47:08 AM  

KellyX: /but he's worse President ever, not 'cause he's black, god no, how can you bring race into it!? He's just an empty suit do nothing that we're threatened by because he does stuff, oh and he's a communist, marxist, socialist, nazi, fascist, liberal, kenyan, uppity ni.... uhhh... democrat...! Yea! What's the problem with all these bl.... blah people???


Every single decision he's made has been wrong, and will destroy America.  Every single one.  Especially the arugula.

It's like The Road out there.  Haven't you been outside?
 
2013-12-12 10:48:38 AM  

stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.


Its just a "difference of opinion".

Now stop trolling other fark members by pointing out that they explicitly stated they are trolling by using sock puppet accounts.
 
2013-12-12 10:49:13 AM  

KellyX: So let me get this straight...

The Obama Administration has been quietly for the last 2 months been trying to begin talks with Cuba (which realistically we knew was going on after they announced that Cubans could start traveling there, or whatever that was) and when they got the chance to meet publically at a event on neutral ground, Castro offered his hand and probably told Obama he was ready to talk more and start normalizing relations.

So this is what I see...

1. End 2 wars and start pulling most troops out

2. Killed Osama bin Laden

3. Helped End Gadhafi's dictatorship (not much you can do afterwards with its ppl, they have to sort that out)

4. Something something Egypt... What can you do about people that want to vote stupid in though.

5. Starting process of normalizing relations with Iran

6. Starting process of normalizing relations with Cuba

/but he's worse President ever, not 'cause he's black, god no, how can you bring race into it!? He's just an empty suit do nothing that we're threatened by because he does stuff, oh and he's a communist, marxist, socialist, nazi, fascist, liberal, kenyan, uppity ni.... uhhh... democrat...! Yea! What's the problem with all these bl.... blah people???



i13.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-12 10:54:34 AM  

The Evil Home Brewer: We need to get past this cold war induced hysteria with Cuba and move on. So they probably have nukes left over from their association with the former Soviet Union...

Continuing this embargo against a neighbor 90 miles from Florida is just causing unnecessary suffering for their people (and the potential loss of additional economic markets we could take advantage of because of the proximity and lower shipping costs for US products than what we pay to ship to Europe or Asia).

If we really want their society to crumble? Lift the embargo and send representatives of the major US fast food chains to Cuba as ambassadors.

On a more serious note? The Chinese are communists too.... yet they have become preferred trading partners with the US because of their manufacturing base and willingness to pollute their own country to manufacture crap we are willing to buy.

So Fidel Castro probably had JFK assassinated.... The guy is sitting in a wheelchair drooling on himself .... if he's still alive. That was 50 years ago.... Time to move on.

His brother Raul seems to be a more reasonable and easier to deal with. Time to begin accepting shipments of Cuban cigars again. If we get Cuban cigars and they get McDonalds? .... We won the cold war.


The Chinese are NOT communists, and haven't been for a very long time.

Free education?  Not in China.
Free healthcare?  Not in China.
Income equality, or any real effort in that direction?  Not in China.

China is rapidly becoming a corporatist oligarchy, much like the direction the Republicans aspire to take us.
 
2013-12-12 10:56:04 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.

I couldn't care less about what you do with your alts.  It's just good to see having alts for the sole purpose of trolling is cool now.

Nope, not trolling. The alts are there to provide better lib arguments than actual libs can manage, so that NAME has something to get NAME's teeth into.


Your lame detector is broken. You might want to get it fixed.
 
2013-12-12 10:57:29 AM  

DarkVader: China is rapidly becoming a corporatist oligarchy, much like the direction the Republicans aspire to take us.


I, for one, cannot wait for the air quality.

thinkprogress.org
 
2013-12-12 10:59:14 AM  
GOOD. Let's get this done. I may want to visit Cuba some day.
 
2013-12-12 11:01:52 AM  

Nappy Imus: THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.

I couldn't care less about what you do with your alts.  It's just good to see having alts for the sole purpose of trolling is cool now.

Nope, not trolling. The alts are there to provide better lib arguments than actual libs can manage, so that NAME has something to get NAME's teeth into.

Your lame detector is broken. You might want to get it fixed.


Pretty much proves my point (Nappy is not the alt)
 
2013-12-12 11:03:31 AM  
An american president shaking hands with a communist?  Inconceivable!

news.xinhuanet.com
 
2013-12-12 11:03:35 AM  
I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.
 
gja
2013-12-12 11:07:20 AM  

Lord_Baull: DarkVader: China is rapidly becoming a corporatist oligarchy, much like the direction the Republicans aspire to take us.

I, for one, cannot wait for the air quality.

[thinkprogress.org image 555x370]


Please tell me that is a 'shop, or a pic of a terrible event that was a one-time thing.
 
2013-12-12 11:07:23 AM  

KellyX: So let me get this straight...

The Obama Administration has been quietly for the last 2 months been trying to begin talks with Cuba (which realistically we knew was going on after they announced that Cubans could start traveling there, or whatever that was) and when they got the chance to meet publically at a event on neutral ground, Castro offered his hand and probably told Obama he was ready to talk more and start normalizing relations.

So this is what I see...

1. End 2 wars and start pulling most troops out

2. Killed Osama bin Laden

3. Helped End Gadhafi's dictatorship (not much you can do afterwards with its ppl, they have to sort that out)

4. Something something Egypt... What can you do about people that want to vote stupid in though.

5. Starting process of normalizing relations with Iran

6. Starting process of normalizing relations with Cuba

/but he's worse President ever, not 'cause he's black, god no, how can you bring race into it!? He's just an empty suit do nothing that we're threatened by because he does stuff, oh and he's a communist, marxist, socialist, nazi, fascist, liberal, kenyan, uppity ni.... uhhh... democrat...! Yea! What's the problem with all these bl.... blah people???


And he closed Guantanamo, of course.
 
2013-12-12 11:07:29 AM  

trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.


i13.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-12 11:07:34 AM  

trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.


What exactly is there to be an apologist for?
 
2013-12-12 11:10:10 AM  
Most awkward political handshake ever:

storage.canoe.ca


Nicest handshake ever:

zacharystarkey.files.wordpress.com

Completely inappropriate outrageously offensive handshake, worse than Castro, really:

i184.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-12 11:12:36 AM  

gja: Lord_Baull: DarkVader: China is rapidly becoming a corporatist oligarchy, much like the direction the Republicans aspire to take us.

I, for one, cannot wait for the air quality.

[thinkprogress.org image 555x370]

Please tell me that is a 'shop, or a pic of a terrible event that was a one-time thing.



Yes, it's a terrible event. In English, it's translated roughly into "weekday."  Some runners refused to compete in the 2008 Olympics.
 
2013-12-12 11:23:08 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: You know Free Radical, the fact you are free owes more to people like John McCain than to people like Fidel/Raul Castro. You do know that, right? Or are you just another lib who "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!"


LOL.

peterandsharda.com
 
2013-12-12 11:25:44 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

What exactly is there to be an apologist for?


The fact he uses the label "apologists" is a tacit admission of the existing outrage.
 
2013-12-12 11:30:51 AM  
Time to get over it, America! It was a long farking time ago
 
2013-12-12 11:31:52 AM  

Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]


Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

i141.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-12 11:34:59 AM  

trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]


Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"
 
2013-12-12 11:35:14 AM  

qorkfiend: ElLoco: I don't really keep up with these things... but why is there still an embargo again? I'm assuming there's some sort of at least half-assed reason?

The reason is that Fidel Castro is a communist.

The real reason is that Florida is still full of anti-Castro Cuban expats, and no serious candidate for President wants alienate Florida and its 29 EV, so when it comes to Cuba the Republicans whip up their base and the Democrats remain silent.


And does anyone imagine for one second that when Fidel finally kicks off, that those equally elderly expats will return in triumph to Cuba?

They waited all this time for him to die and the US to do the job for them; he didn't and we didn't so fark them.
 
2013-12-12 11:35:47 AM  

jso2897: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.

Yeah, tell us all about "libs" and what "libs" do.
Do you ever have anything of any actual substance to contribute to any discussion? Do you have any views of your own at all?


THE GREAT NAME has admitted he's a troll in multiple threads, so odds are on "no."
 
2013-12-12 11:39:30 AM  
Eh. I wish he didn't shake his hand, but it's not really a hot button issue for me. It's not like the guy took a smiling group photo at a funeral or something. I mean, THAT would be a pure ghetto/trailer trash move right there, right?
 
2013-12-12 11:40:12 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"


They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.
 
2013-12-12 11:42:03 AM  
So let me get this straight...

The Obama Administration has been quietly for the last 2 months been trying to begin talks with Cuba (which realistically we knew was going on after they announced that Cubans could start traveling there, or whatever that was) and when they got the chance to meet publically at a event on neutral ground, Castro offered his hand and probably told Obama he was ready to talk more and start normalizing relations.

So this is what I see...

1. End 2 wars and start pulling most troops out

2. Killed Osama bin Laden

3. Helped End Gadhafi's dictatorship (not much you can do afterwards with its ppl, they have to sort that out)

4. Something something Egypt... What can you do about people that want to vote stupid in though.

5. Starting process of normalizing relations with Iran

6. Starting process of normalizing relations with Cuba

/but he's worse President ever, not 'cause he's black, god no, how can you bring race into it!? He's just an empty suit do nothing that we're threatened by because he does stuff, oh and he's a communist, marxist, socialist, nazi, fascist, liberal, kenyan, uppity ni.... uhhh... democrat...! Yea! What's the problem with all these bl.... blah people???


Your view is delightfully simple and cute, like a small child playing!
 
2013-12-12 11:42:59 AM  

Krieghund: SlothB77: there are Americans in prison in Cuba. Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand

There are Americans in prison in American. Obama's got no business touching himself at night.


www.grammy365.com

Disagrees.
 
2013-12-12 11:43:43 AM  

ciberido: jso2897: THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

Libs confuse outrage and legitimate counter-argments because they both feel the same to the lib; and for libs, it's all about how they feel during the debate, never about finding the reality.

Yeah, tell us all about "libs" and what "libs" do.
Do you ever have anything of any actual substance to contribute to any discussion? Do you have any views of your own at all?

THE GREAT NAME has admitted he's a troll in multiple threads, so odds are on "no."


Just checked this joker's profile. He can't even decide whether he's a frothing retarded lib or a bible bashing sky monster believer. You have to be one or the other!
 
2013-12-12 11:44:07 AM  

trappedspirit: They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.


Oh since you personally didn't see it, it obviously didn't happen.
 
2013-12-12 11:45:02 AM  

trappedspirit: They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.   I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.


Ok, maybe this guy


SlothB77: I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.

 
2013-12-12 11:45:52 AM  

trappedspirit: I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this


A sitting member of the United States Senate compared it to shaking hands with Hitler.
 
2013-12-12 11:46:31 AM  

Lord_Baull: gja: Lord_Baull: DarkVader: China is rapidly becoming a corporatist oligarchy, much like the direction the Republicans aspire to take us.

I, for one, cannot wait for the air quality.

[thinkprogress.org image 555x370]

Please tell me that is a 'shop, or a pic of a terrible event that was a one-time thing.


Yes, it's a terrible event. In English, it's translated roughly into "weekday."  Some runners refused to compete in the 2008 Olympics.


Air pollution stretches from Beijing to Shanghai, as seen from space
 
2013-12-12 11:46:37 AM  

trappedspirit: trappedspirit: They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.   I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

Ok, maybe this guy


SlothB77: I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.


And John McCain. And the right-wing blogs. And Fox News. Other than that though, practically nobody.
 
2013-12-12 11:49:52 AM  
Is this real? Are Republicans now trying to lie about how their fainting couch addiction isn't real?
 
2013-12-12 11:52:12 AM  
Hilarious. This reminds me of a friend of mine that was cheating on her boyfriend. For some dumb reason the guy she was cheating with sent her a love letter, and for an even dumber reason she held on to it. When her boyfriend found it and confronted her she grabbed the note, tore it up and flushed it down the toilet. Then denied there was ever a note.

The people in this thread stating that there was never any outrage are like that girl. Unfortunately, you can't flush the interwebs down the toilet.
 
2013-12-12 11:54:00 AM  

impaler: trappedspirit: I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this

A sitting member of the United States Senate compared it to shaking hands with Hitler.


It would be similar.  They are both dictators.  Different facial hair.
 
2013-12-12 11:54:42 AM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Eh. I wish he didn't shake his hand, but it's not really a hot button issue for me. It's not like the guy took a smiling group photo at a funeral or something. I mean, THAT would be a pure ghetto/trailer trash move right there, right?


What's wrong with shaking a hand?

"Hey nice to meet you, how about we talk over some coffee or tea and discuss our differences and maybe come to a middle ground?"

What is wrong with that?
 
2013-12-12 11:54:50 AM  

SlothB77: I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.


That's some bad reasoning. Many Americans are locked up worldwide but no one would suggest that Obama shouldn't be shaking the hands of Cameron because some yanks are in prison in the UK.  The American's locked up there (like Alan Gross) were caught spying.  We have a number of Cubans behind bars for the same reason. And the same goes for most of the first world.

Now if you had said...because of human rights violations and free elections...
 
2013-12-12 11:55:33 AM  

trappedspirit: impaler: trappedspirit: I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this

A sitting member of the United States Senate compared it to shaking hands with Hitler.

It would be similar.  They are both dictators.  Different facial hair.


It would be similar? Do you even know who Hitler was besides a mustache aficionado? It's ludicrous to compare Raul Castro to Hitler. It's ludicrous to compare almost anyone to Hitler short of maybe Pol Pot and Stalin.
 
2013-12-12 11:55:41 AM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Eh. I wish he didn't shake his hand, but it's not really a hot button issue for me. It's not like the guy took a smiling group photo at a funeral or something. I mean, THAT would be a pure ghetto/trailer trash move right there, right?


It wasn't a funeral.
 
2013-12-12 11:55:54 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

Oh since you personally didn't see it, it obviously didn't happen.


cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: trappedspirit: They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.   I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

Ok, maybe this guy


SlothB77: I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.

And John McCain. And the right-wing blogs. And Fox News. Other than that though, practically nobody.


Well thank god everyone is overreacting like a screeching harpy.  The right-wing blogs, lol.
 
2013-12-12 11:56:08 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Eh. I wish he didn't shake his hand, but it's not really a hot button issue for me. It's not like the guy took a smiling group photo at a funeral or something. I mean, THAT would be a pure ghetto/trailer trash move right there, right?

What's wrong with shaking a hand?

"Hey nice to meet you, how about we talk over some coffee or tea and discuss our differences and maybe come to a middle ground?"

What is wrong with that?


It means we don't want to start a war with them. The GOP is very afraid of diplomacy.
 
2013-12-12 11:57:40 AM  

trappedspirit: Well thank god everyone is overreacting like a screeching harpy.  The right-wing blogs, lol.


So now you're going from "nobody is doing it" to "these popular right-wing blogs, Fox News, and Senator McCain don't matter, they're practically nobody"

Just admit you were wrong and get over it.
 
2013-12-12 12:00:46 PM  

JusticeandIndependence: Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Eh. I wish he didn't shake his hand, but it's not really a hot button issue for me. It's not like the guy took a smiling group photo at a funeral or something. I mean, THAT would be a pure ghetto/trailer trash move right there, right?

What's wrong with shaking a hand?

"Hey nice to meet you, how about we talk over some coffee or tea and discuss our differences and maybe come to a middle ground?"

What is wrong with that?


It reeks of cowardace and dijon mustard.
 
2013-12-12 12:00:53 PM  

dinch: Hilarious. This reminds me of a friend of mine that was cheating on her boyfriend. For some dumb reason the guy she was cheating with sent her a love letter, and for an even dumber reason she held on to it. When her boyfriend found it and confronted her she grabbed the note, tore it up and flushed it down the toilet. Then denied there was ever a note.

The people in this thread stating that there was never any outrage are like that girl. Unfortunately, you can't flush the interwebs down the toilet.


You hang out with love cheats? Typical lib.
 
2013-12-12 12:02:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: impaler: trappedspirit: I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this

A sitting member of the United States Senate compared it to shaking hands with Hitler.

It would be similar.  They are both dictators.  Different facial hair.

It would be similar? Do you even know who Hitler was besides a mustache aficionado? It's ludicrous to compare Raul Castro to Hitler. It's ludicrous to compare almost anyone to Hitler short of maybe Pol Pot and Stalin.


It would be ludicrous to compare the number of Jews they had each killed.  But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.  If you are going to ignore alllll those attributes and call the comparison ludicrous, well that's the tail wagging the dog.
 
2013-12-12 12:06:36 PM  

trappedspirit: But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.  If you are going to ignore alllll those attributes and call the comparison ludicrous, well that's the tail wagging the dog.


There are tons of more apt comparisons to charismatic leaders than simply Hitler. It's a stupid comparison to make. Continue digging that hole, though. You're totally convincing everyone that there was no outrage over the handshake.
 
2013-12-12 12:06:52 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: KellyX: So let me get this straight...

The Obama Administration has been quietly for the last 2 months been trying to begin talks with Cuba (which realistically we knew was going on after they announced that Cubans could start traveling there, or whatever that was) and when they got the chance to meet publically at a event on neutral ground, Castro offered his hand and probably told Obama he was ready to talk more and start normalizing relations.

So this is what I see...

1. End 2 wars and start pulling most troops out

2. Killed Osama bin Laden

3. Helped End Gadhafi's dictatorship (not much you can do afterwards with its ppl, they have to sort that out)

4. Something something Egypt... What can you do about people that want to vote stupid in though.

5. Starting process of normalizing relations with Iran

6. Starting process of normalizing relations with Cuba

/but he's worse President ever, not 'cause he's black, god no, how can you bring race into it!? He's just an empty suit do nothing that we're threatened by because he does stuff, oh and he's a communist, marxist, socialist, nazi, fascist, liberal, kenyan, uppity ni.... uhhh... democrat...! Yea! What's the problem with all these bl.... blah people???

And he closed Guantanamo, of course.


He did try.  Congress had a giant bipartisan pants-wetting over bringing the Gitmo detainees onto American soil for trial and detainment, and did everything possible to prevent it from happening.  Because, you know, the instant the terrorists set foot in the US, they'll gain superpowers from our yellow sun and destroy the country.
 
2013-12-12 12:07:11 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: THE GREAT NAME: [oeuvre]

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT A LIBERAL BELIEVES, ASK A CONSERVATIVE.


Lookie here now.  They have lots of forwarded emails to back up what they know in their hearts about liberals.
 
2013-12-12 12:08:33 PM  

trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"

They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.


So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.
 
2013-12-12 12:12:30 PM  
I've done a lot of things I'm not proud of, but I've never been so lonely and pathetic that I would have an argument with myself on an internet message board.
 
2013-12-12 12:13:03 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: Pants full of macaroni!!: jso2897: No. That's just another right wing blog about "what liberals think".
I'm asking you what YOU think - if indeed, you think anything at all - and you don't seem to be coming up with any answers.
(Save yourself the keystrokes of name-calling, like "pubescent" - I just ignore that stuff)
It's starting to look like you don't really have any coherent, expressable views at all.
DO you?

He sure does know how to condescend though!

And ultimately, isn't that what really matters?

NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)


Who the hell would do that?  Who would argue with themself on the internet.  Are you the South African sign language translator who was having a psychotic break?
 
2013-12-12 12:13:42 PM  
The only thing I've taken a big bite of lately is this tasty, tasty pork chop I'm having for lunch.
 
2013-12-12 12:16:51 PM  

blindio: I've done a lot of things I'm not proud of, but I've never been so lonely and pathetic that I would have an argument with myself on an internet message board.


Yeah, that's pretty messed up.
 
2013-12-12 12:17:19 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.  If you are going to ignore alllll those attributes and call the comparison ludicrous, well that's the tail wagging the dog.

There are tons of more apt comparisons to charismatic leaders than simply Hitler. It's a stupid comparison to make. Continue digging that hole, though. You're totally convincing everyone that there was no outrage over the handshake.


I said that everyone was overreacting.  This is convincing everyone what?  I would suggest you keep digging your hold but your shovel is broke.
 
2013-12-12 12:18:23 PM  

trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.  If you are going to ignore alllll those attributes and call the comparison ludicrous, well that's the tail wagging the dog.

There are tons of more apt comparisons to charismatic leaders than simply Hitler. It's a stupid comparison to make. Continue digging that hole, though. You're totally convincing everyone that there was no outrage over the handshake.

I said that everyone was overreacting.  This is convincing everyone what?  I would suggest you keep digging your hold but your shovel is broke.


No, you said that no one was overreacting except teh libz that were "apologizing"

You don't even remember your first argument do you?
 
2013-12-12 12:18:29 PM  

SlothB77: Why is the media so thrilled by this?

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: Castro! He's shaking hands with Raul Castro.
CHRIS CUOMO: As Christiane points out, President Obama just shook hands with Raul Castro from Cuba.  What does that say as a gesture?
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: It says that this a moment of reconciliation for Mandela. And President Obama is doing the diplomatic thing. He's not just going to walk by and ignore these people who are there.  And they're all in a line.  He's kissing now the U.N. Secretary General, President Zuma.
ROBYN CURNOW: This is a man, and it is so true, who brought people together in life and he continues to bring people together in death.

The media is having orgasms over Obama shaking hands with Castro.  Why is that?  What does that say about them?  Does that seem a bit odd to you?
I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.


If you think that is what having an orgasm is like, I feel very bad for you.
 
2013-12-12 12:19:14 PM  

Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"

They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.


I think you got that backwards.
 
2013-12-12 12:20:26 PM  

trappedspirit: It would be ludicrous to compare the number of Jews they had each killed.  But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.


Really? You think McCain was just trying to say Castro was charismatic when he compared the handshake to Hitler?

You know how stupid that makes you look?
 
2013-12-12 12:21:08 PM  
Hey, it's not like he misspelled potato or something.
 
2013-12-12 12:21:51 PM  

blindio: I've done a lot of things I'm not proud of, but I've never been so lonely and pathetic that I would have an argument with myself on an internet message board.


Some people are that desperate for attention.
 
2013-12-12 12:22:36 PM  

trappedspirit: Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this



So, pointing out hypocrisy is a form of apologetics?
 
2013-12-12 12:24:11 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: dinch: Hilarious. This reminds me of a friend of mine that was cheating on her boyfriend. For some dumb reason the guy she was cheating with sent her a love letter, and for an even dumber reason she held on to it. When her boyfriend found it and confronted her she grabbed the note, tore it up and flushed it down the toilet. Then denied there was ever a note.

The people in this thread stating that there was never any outrage are like that girl. Unfortunately, you can't flush the interwebs down the toilet.

You hang out with love cheats? Typical lib.


Like I'm going to care if a stupid girl tries to insult me.
 
2013-12-12 12:26:28 PM  
I think it's pretty shameful to see him shaking hands with an unapologetic communist, but come on, when is he going to get another chance to shake hands with the POTUS?
 
2013-12-12 12:29:47 PM  

trappedspirit: They are apologizing for his behavior


The only people that would use the label "apologist" for those ridiculing the outraged people, are the people that think there needs to be an apology for a hand-shake.

The only people that think there needs to be an apology for a hand-shake, are people outraged by the hand-shake.

Ergo, you yourself were outraged. Now you're embarrassed at your own stupidity and are trying to deflect.
 
2013-12-12 12:33:22 PM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Eh. I wish he didn't shake his hand, but it's not really a hot button issue for me. It's not like the guy took a smiling group photo at a funeral or something. I mean, THAT would be a pure ghetto/trailer trash move right there, right?


No.
 
2013-12-12 12:33:26 PM  

doubled99: Your view is delightfully simple and cute, like a small child playing!


Sorry, that's called summarizing, what did you want, an essay with as much details and citations as possible?

I notice you didn't seem to have any corrections or disagreements with it though.
 
2013-12-12 12:34:04 PM  

impaler: trappedspirit: It would be ludicrous to compare the number of Jews they had each killed.  But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.

Really? You think McCain was just trying to say Castro was charismatic when he compared the handshake to Hitler?

You know how stupid that makes you look?


Wait, I thought he was comparing Obama to Hitler?  He was saying that Castro has killed Jews?
 
2013-12-12 12:34:49 PM  

trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

Oh since you personally didn't see it, it obviously didn't happen.

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: trappedspirit: They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.   I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

Ok, maybe this guy


SlothB77: I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.

And John McCain. And the right-wing blogs. And Fox News. Other than that though, practically nobody.

Well thank god everyone is overreacting like a screeching harpy.  The right-wing blogs, lol.



I assume you mean liberals. Once again...

i13.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-12 12:36:17 PM  
 
2013-12-12 12:37:30 PM  

Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this


So, pointing out hypocrisy is a form of apologetics?


The hypocrisy was all those leaders acting like they are making nice.  It's fake, false, an outright lie.  But people think this is normal.  To suggest that shaking anyone's hand, evil hand or not, means anything about the other person is the root of the problem that everyone tries to ignore and shift the focus.
 
2013-12-12 12:38:06 PM  

trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.



They're apologists because you're ignorant?
 
2013-12-12 12:39:01 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully:
"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"
-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.

What exactly is it about Hitler and the Nazis that make them - and only them - inadmissible for the purposes of learning from history?


Alright, go on then: How is Obama shaking Castro's hand, when they happen to meet at a memorial service for a guy they both liked a lot, the same as Neville Chamberlain shaking hands with Hitler over the Munich Agreement?
(Difficulty: Your answer has to be perceptive and pertinent)
 
2013-12-12 12:39:23 PM  
Why does everyone keep calling him Raul? Doesn't everyone know that Fidel's brother is named Dennis...or maybe Dwayne.
 
2013-12-12 12:39:24 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: But there's tons of other attributes they had in common.  Even many just from the stand point of being charismatic leaders.  If you are going to ignore alllll those attributes and call the comparison ludicrous, well that's the tail wagging the dog.

There are tons of more apt comparisons to charismatic leaders than simply Hitler. It's a stupid comparison to make. Continue digging that hole, though. You're totally convincing everyone that there was no outrage over the handshake.

I said that everyone was overreacting.  This is convincing everyone what?  I would suggest you keep digging your hold but your shovel is broke.

No, you said that no one was overreacting except teh libz that were "apologizing"

You don't even remember your first argument do you?


The part about the harpies, in my post, that you read, and then forgot?  I think you are all worked up and looking for an argument.  That's what I think.  You haven't found one.
 
2013-12-12 12:39:51 PM  

sillydragon: blindio: I've done a lot of things I'm not proud of, but I've never been so lonely and pathetic that I would have an argument with myself on an internet message board.

Some people are that desperate for attention.


I don't understand why he's not on all the gray lists.  Schizoaffective Disorder is not really attractive to watch.
 
2013-12-12 12:40:04 PM  

trappedspirit: The hypocrisy was all those leaders acting like they are making nice.  It's fake, false, an outright lie


No, it's diplomacy. You're allowed to be nice to people you disagree with.
 
2013-12-12 12:40:41 PM  
What's this "we" shiat, submitter? I don't give a fark who the president shakes hands with. It's a handshake, not a wedding ceremony.

But then, I'm a grownup, not a whiny, pussified, know-nothing asshole who's always looking for something to be afraid of.
 
2013-12-12 12:40:41 PM  

Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.


They're apologists because you're ignorant?


i141.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-12 12:40:45 PM  

trappedspirit: The part about the harpies, in my post, that you read, and then forgot?  I think you are all worked up and looking for an argument.  That's what I think.  You haven't found one.


You're right, I haven't found one because you have yet to make a coherent, logical, and factually accurate statement.
 
2013-12-12 12:41:10 PM  

trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this


So, pointing out hypocrisy is a form of apologetics?

The hypocrisy was all those leaders acting like they are making nice.  It's fake, false, an outright lie.  But people think this is normal.  To suggest that shaking anyone's hand, evil hand or not, means anything about the other person is the root of the problem that everyone tries to ignore and shift the focus.



Aren't you afraid of hurting your back? You should get someone to help move those goalposts.
 
2013-12-12 12:41:21 PM  

trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.


They're apologists because you're ignorant?

[i141.photobucket.com image 491x481]


Look, we weren't the ones that said that because you hadn't seen the outrage it didn't happen. That was all you, bud.
 
2013-12-12 12:44:03 PM  

trappedspirit: [inigomontoya.jpg]


You take offense because people call you ignorant after you claim no one has attacked Obama for shaking hands??
 
2013-12-12 12:47:12 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: The hypocrisy was all those leaders acting like they are making nice.  It's fake, false, an outright lie

No, it's diplomacy. You're allowed to be nice to people you disagree with.


You're allowed to do a dance number too, that doesn't mean life is a musical.

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: The part about the harpies, in my post, that you read, and then forgot?  I think you are all worked up and looking for an argument.  That's what I think.  You haven't found one.

You're right, I haven't found one because you have yet to make a coherent, logical, and factually accurate statement.


Worked.  Up.  Work it back down.
 
2013-12-12 12:47:16 PM  
As I understand it, conservatives have never had a reaction to Oblahma's use of teleprompters, therefore any outrage is fabricated by the mainstream MSM liebrul media.
 
2013-12-12 12:48:24 PM  

trappedspirit: You're allowed to do a dance number too, that doesn't mean life is a musical.


This makes no sense. You don't understand diplomacy.

trappedspirit: Worked.  Up.  Work it back down.


Who's worked up? I'm simply stating facts here.
 
2013-12-12 12:49:15 PM  
There was a farker back in the day called FlashLV, who would make outlandish, obviously ridiculous statements, then spend the remainder of the thread obfuscating, detouring or outright denying he said any such thing. I'm reminded of him today.
 
2013-12-12 12:49:22 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.


They're apologists because you're ignorant?

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Look, we weren't the ones that said that because you hadn't seen the outrage it didn't happen. That was all you, bud.


I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.  Someone here even added some links of where this was happening.  That was a sane response to someone saying they haven't seen that side of things.  Guess what type of response you had.
 
2013-12-12 12:50:39 PM  

trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.


You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?
 
2013-12-12 12:52:18 PM  

Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: [inigomontoya.jpg]

You take offense because people call you ignorant after you claim no one has attacked Obama for shaking hands??


I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.  You've read everything into this "argument" that you wanted to.  You are bitter and looking for someone to share that bitterness with.  You keep trying, but it doesn't rub off.
 
2013-12-12 12:53:35 PM  

trappedspirit: I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.


Look, you can't rewrite history any more than you can move the goalposts. Maybe it's best for you to just move on to the next thread. You made a claim, you got called out on it, you just can't admit being wrong about it.
 
2013-12-12 12:53:47 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?


Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.
 
2013-12-12 12:54:26 PM  

Franko: An american president shaking hands with a communist?  Inconceivable!

[news.xinhuanet.com image 450x349]


Indeed.

crimemagazine.com
 
2013-12-12 12:55:08 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.

Look, you can't rewrite history any more than you can move the goalposts. Maybe it's best for you to just move on to the next thread. You made a claim, you got called out on it, you just can't admit being wrong about it.


Rewrite history?  Would you care to show me where I made that claim?  Or will you claim that someone deleted the post?  I'm betting on the latter.
 
2013-12-12 12:56:10 PM  

trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.


What would be the point in making a claim like that? It's useless. I haven't seen the 1932 World Series, but I've seen all kinds of articles on it. What's the point of saying that?
 
2013-12-12 12:57:27 PM  

trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.


In his mind, this post means something other than "the outrage didn't happen"
 
2013-12-12 12:58:10 PM  

trappedspirit: Rewrite history?  Would you care to show me where I made that claim?


trappedspirit: I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.



People losing their minds over this:

HeartBurnKid: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/11/obama-shakes-raul-castro- ha nd-at-mandela-service/

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-on-obama-castro-handsha ke -chamberlain-shook-hands-with-hitler-audio

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/12/10/cnn-cuomo-obama-c as tr-handshake-not-be-misunderstood

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/192 61 5-rubio-slams-obama-handshake-with-castro

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/obama-castro-handshake-visual/2013/12 /1 0/id/541016

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2013/12/10/msnbccom-writer -h ails-obama-castro-handshake-omits-fact-cubans-holding

http://twitchy.com/2013/12/10/oh-bam-obamas-castro-handshake-in-shat te ring-perspective/

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/12/supreme_irony_of_obamaca st ro_handshake_goes_unnoticed.html

http://www.infowars.com/castro-handshake-what-about-that-obama-photo -o p-with-an-african-cannibal/

 
2013-12-12 12:58:57 PM  

dinch: THE GREAT NAME: dinch: Hilarious. This reminds me of a friend of mine that was cheating on her boyfriend. For some dumb reason the guy she was cheating with sent her a love letter, and for an even dumber reason she held on to it. When her boyfriend found it and confronted her she grabbed the note, tore it up and flushed it down the toilet. Then denied there was ever a note.

The people in this thread stating that there was never any outrage are like that girl. Unfortunately, you can't flush the interwebs down the toilet.

You hang out with love cheats? Typical lib.

Like I'm going to care if a stupid girl tries to insult me.


Stupid girl????

Reported to mods: trolling other users
 
2013-12-12 12:59:37 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: dinch: THE GREAT NAME: dinch: Hilarious. This reminds me of a friend of mine that was cheating on her boyfriend. For some dumb reason the guy she was cheating with sent her a love letter, and for an even dumber reason she held on to it. When her boyfriend found it and confronted her she grabbed the note, tore it up and flushed it down the toilet. Then denied there was ever a note.

The people in this thread stating that there was never any outrage are like that girl. Unfortunately, you can't flush the interwebs down the toilet.

You hang out with love cheats? Typical lib.

Like I'm going to care if a stupid girl tries to insult me.

Stupid girl????

Reported to mods: trolling other users


You are boring.
 
2013-12-12 12:59:43 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: What would be the point in making a claim like that? It's useless. I haven't seen the 1932 World Series, but I've seen all kinds of articles on it. What's the point of saying that?


Clearly the 1932 World Series didn't happen, and the liberal media is full of 1932 World Series apologists.
 
2013-12-12 01:00:06 PM  

trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.


The let me help you out...

 "Why should you shake hands with someone who's keeping Americans in prison? I mean, what's the point? Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler."  - John McCain (R) AZ

"[T]o witness the handshake between Obama and Raúl Castro makes the stomach turn."  -Mona Charen  The National Review

"[W]hen the leader of the free world shakes the bloody hand of a ruthless dictator like Raul Castro, it becomes a propaganda coup for the tyrant."    - Republican Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen

"Dictators Obama and Castro Shake Hands at Communist Funeral" Headline at Conservativebyte.com

Less that 2 minutes clicking.
 
2013-12-12 01:00:10 PM  
I was really hoping that they did it just to see if they can make Ted Cruz collapse on the ground and mouth-foam while he twitches.
 
2013-12-12 01:01:45 PM  

trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.

Look, you can't rewrite history any more than you can move the goalposts. Maybe it's best for you to just move on to the next thread. You made a claim, you got called out on it, you just can't admit being wrong about it.

Rewrite history?  Would you care to show me where I made that claim?  Or will you claim that someone deleted the post?  I'm betting on the latter.


Here's you:

"They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day. "

You're 100% full of shiat, first in that claim and then in your later attempts to say you didn't make that claim.
 
2013-12-12 01:02:05 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.

What would be the point in making a claim like that? It's useless. I haven't seen the 1932 World Series, but I've seen all kinds of articles on it. What's the point of saying that?


Maybe to have a conversation?  Like, somebody walks out and says, "hey, why is everyone running around screaming.  I don't see any reason to be all anxious."  And somebody else says, "Hey, there's a nuclear warhead coming at us."  And so then the running around and screaming gets another participant.  I guarantee you that if there was a thread about 1932 world series someone would be in there saying, "Hey, I saw that" and someone else will be posting, "Hey, I haven't seen that".  It's called expressing your perspective for the purpose of having a conversation.  Something political people are usually incapable of because they are so tightly wrapped everything looks like an argument to them.
 
2013-12-12 01:03:06 PM  
Amazing that people don't realize they're being trolled in a thread about trolling with "troll" in the headline.
 
2013-12-12 01:05:18 PM  

VendorXeno: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.

Look, you can't rewrite history any more than you can move the goalposts. Maybe it's best for you to just move on to the next thread. You made a claim, you got called out on it, you just can't admit being wrong about it.

Rewrite history?  Would you care to show me where I made that claim?  Or will you claim that someone deleted the post?  I'm betting on the latter.

Here's you:

"They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day. "

You're 100% full of shiat, first in that claim and then in your later attempts to say you didn't make that claim.


Are we reading the same thing?  I say "I haven't seen anyone losing their mind over this" and what are you saying?  That I have?  You are going to tell me what I have seen?  You are 200% full of shiat.
 
2013-12-12 01:06:11 PM  

Lord_Baull: Aren't you afraid of hurting your back? You should get someone to help move those goalposts.


Haven't you heard?  They're on wheels now.
 
2013-12-12 01:06:46 PM  

lordjupiter: Amazing that people don't realize they're being trolled in a thread about trolling with "troll" in the headline.


Eh, that line is getting really old. If people are going to say stupid things they deserve to be treated like stupid people, and the tired, "I were just trollin'," excuse shouldn't change that. If people really get off on being called idiots so much that they'll go out of their way to act like idiots, then I figure that's a serious problem with them, not the people who point out they're acting like idiots.
 
2013-12-12 01:07:22 PM  

trappedspirit: Maybe to have a conversation?


That's a stupid way to start a conversation; by accusing your neighbors of being apologists.
 
2013-12-12 01:07:25 PM  

John the Magnificent: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

The let me help you out...

 "Why should you shake hands with someone who's keeping Americans in prison? I mean, what's the point? Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler."  - John McCain (R) AZ

"[T]o witness the handshake between Obama and Raúl Castro makes the stomach turn."  -Mona Charen  The National Review

"[W]hen the leader of the free world shakes the bloody hand of a ruthless dictator like Raul Castro, it becomes a propaganda coup for the tyrant."    - Republican Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen

"Dictators Obama and Castro Shake Hands at Communist Funeral" Headline at Conservativebyte.com

Less that 2 minutes clicking.


Thank you.  I wish those had been links so that I could just click but thank you none the less.
 
2013-12-12 01:07:57 PM  
trappedspirit routinely goes to the water cooler saying "I have yet to see this 9/11 thing happen, but there sure are a lot of apologists!"
 
2013-12-12 01:08:30 PM  

trappedspirit: VendorXeno: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I didn't take offense and I didn't make that claim.

Look, you can't rewrite history any more than you can move the goalposts. Maybe it's best for you to just move on to the next thread. You made a claim, you got called out on it, you just can't admit being wrong about it.

Rewrite history?  Would you care to show me where I made that claim?  Or will you claim that someone deleted the post?  I'm betting on the latter.

Here's you:

"They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day. "

You're 100% full of shiat, first in that claim and then in your later attempts to say you didn't make that claim.

Are we reading the same thing?  I say "I haven't seen anyone losing their mind over this" and what are you saying?  That I have?  You are going to tell me what I have seen?  You are 200% full of shiat.


Yeah I'll tell you what you've seen, or what you tried to see, or how you willfully tried to spin a situation that either you were lying about or intentionally remaining ignorant about, one or the other. And then when people called you on it, pointed out examples, etc., your response was to try to deny you said it at all. Not sure what you think is cute or fun about being ignorant, belligerent and dishonest, but trust me, it's not a good way to spend your free time.
 
2013-12-12 01:09:50 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Maybe to have a conversation?

That's a stupid way to start a conversation; by accusing your neighbors of being apologists.


I could see someone getting upset, if 'apologist' described them.
 
2013-12-12 01:10:14 PM  

trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.


So you didn't know about the outrage that was happening, and yet spouted off about it anyway, and yet you take offense when people call you ignorant.  Tell me, was the Inigo Montoya pic you posted earlier directed at yourself?
 
2013-12-12 01:11:00 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit routinely goes to the water cooler saying "I have yet to see this 9/11 thing happen, but there sure are a lot of apologists!"


No, I was actually watching CNN when they broke the news.
 
2013-12-12 01:12:09 PM  

The Muthaship: SpectroBoy: Sounds like your opinion of Obama is sort of like this;

Funny that you got that from my opinion of the media, but ok.


Noooooo.... I got it from you saying (and I quote)  "every dumb ass move this guy makes"

You made it clear you considered "this guy" a maker of many "dumbass moves" and then labeled a completely reasonable thing (shaking hands with a leader we are negotiating with) as on of those dumbass moves.

Read that a few times. You'll see it eventually.
 
2013-12-12 01:13:38 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: Wooly Bully: Smoky Dragon Dish: The only people really outraged over this are Cubans.

"Neville Chamberlain shook hands with Hitler"

-- noted Cuban John McCain

That's not outrage, that's a perceptive and pertinent observation.


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-12-12 01:14:17 PM  

ElLoco: I don't really keep up with these things... but why is there still an embargo again? I'm assuming there's some sort of at least half-assed reason?


Very simple. If you are running for President and want to win the votes of the South Florida Cubaneros, you must continue the embargo. For the record, the South Florida Cubaneros are THIRD-generation American citizens of the original Cubans who were forced to flee Cuba after it fell to the Castro brothers, Che, and Cienfuegos' revolution. That's it.
 
2013-12-12 01:14:35 PM  

HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.

So you didn't know about the outrage that was happening, and yet spouted off about it anyway, and yet you take offense when people call you ignorant.  Tell me, was the Inigo Montoya pic you posted earlier directed at yourself?


I didn't take offense, Inigo Montoya was not being called "inconceivable" and taking offense at being called that.  That's not how that meme works.
 
2013-12-12 01:16:16 PM  

SpectroBoy: Read that a few times. You'll see it eventually.


So, you inferred that my reasons for thinking he's a dumb ass are insignificant/petty despite my not including any of them, while ignoring the actual point of the post  Well done.
 
2013-12-12 01:16:27 PM  

trappedspirit: HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.

So you didn't know about the outrage that was happening, and yet spouted off about it anyway, and yet you take offense when people call you ignorant.  Tell me, was the Inigo Montoya pic you posted earlier directed at yourself?

I didn't take offense, Inigo Montoya was not being called "inconceivable" and taking offense at being called that.  That's not how that meme works.


I understand that.  I was pointing out that you appear not to know what ignorant means.
 
2013-12-12 01:17:51 PM  

puckrock2000: Franko: An american president shaking hands with a communist?  Inconceivable!

[news.xinhuanet.com image 450x349]

Indeed.

[crimemagazine.com image 295x300]



I think the one thing this photo proves is this: Fidel Castro was the original hipster.
 
2013-12-12 01:18:20 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: Nappy Imus: Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D

You're so convinced of you lib opinions, that you can't even accept as human those who disagree. Sad, really. Luckily libs are not as organised as the Germans otherwise you would no doubt start Holocausting those who do not share stupid lib opinions.


He's like some lib insult generator code run amok
 
2013-12-12 01:18:58 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Not sure how it was troll from TFA but the only ones pants wetting over the hand shake are right wingers that are outraged over everything Obama does or doesn't do


Is this not supposed to be what happens when someone gets mad?  I'm just curious.
 
2013-12-12 01:19:20 PM  

Krieghund: SlothB77: there are Americans in prison in Cuba. Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand

There are Americans in prison in American. Obama's got no business touching himself at night.


There are Americans in prison in virtually every NATO country, so NATO is hereby dissolved.
 
2013-12-12 01:20:16 PM  

stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.


HEY MODS - We have an troll who has admitted to using alts to troll.

Little help here?
 
2013-12-12 01:20:49 PM  

HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.

So you didn't know about the outrage that was happening, and yet spouted off about it anyway, and yet you take offense when people call you ignorant.  Tell me, was the Inigo Montoya pic you posted earlier directed at yourself?

I didn't take offense, Inigo Montoya was not being called "inconceivable" and taking offense at being called that.  That's not how that meme works.

I understand that.  I was pointing out that you appear not to know what ignorant means.


Let me get this straight, you are saying I am ignorant of "ignorant"?  Just because I don't know the definition of a word doesn't mean it loses it's significance.
 
2013-12-12 01:21:57 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.

I couldn't care less about what you do with your alts.  It's just good to see having alts for the sole purpose of trolling is cool now.

Nope, not trolling. The alts are there to provide better lib arguments than actual libs can manage, so that NAME has something to get NAME's teeth into.


t1.gstatic.com


Do you gently weep "libs" in to your pillow wile trying to fall asleep too?
 
2013-12-12 01:22:33 PM  

trappedspirit: Let me get this straight, you are saying I am ignorant of "ignorant"?  Just because I don't know the definition of a word doesn't mean it loses it's significance.


You're definitely coming off as borderline illiterate..
 
2013-12-12 01:26:23 PM  

VendorXeno: Yeah I'll tell you what you've seen, or what you tried to see, or how you willfully tried to spin a situation that either you were lying about or intentionally remaining ignorant about, one or the other. And then when people called you on it, pointed out examples, etc., your response was to try to deny you said it at all. Not sure what you think is cute or fun about being ignorant, belligerent and dishonest, but trust me, it's not a good way to spend your free time.


This is how I know you are full of shiat.  Because it is running out of you and you can not stop it.  Do you know what a biased moron you sound like saying that you are going to tell me what I have seen?
 
2013-12-12 01:27:22 PM  

trappedspirit: HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: I never made that claim.  Not ever.  I stated my perspective.

You said you hadn't seen it, yet you had seen all kinds of "apologizing". Thus implying that it hadn't happened but that teh libs were all worked up over nothing. Context, how does it work?

Because I haven't seen it, I can say that and simply mean what I said?  Wow, I think you could have an argument with yourself.

So you didn't know about the outrage that was happening, and yet spouted off about it anyway, and yet you take offense when people call you ignorant.  Tell me, was the Inigo Montoya pic you posted earlier directed at yourself?

I didn't take offense, Inigo Montoya was not being called "inconceivable" and taking offense at being called that.  That's not how that meme works.

I understand that.  I was pointing out that you appear not to know what ignorant means.

Let me get this straight, you are saying I am ignorant of "ignorant"?  Just because I don't know the definition of a word doesn't mean it loses it's significance.


Indeed it doesn't.  And from the way you have behaved in this thread, not only are you ignorant of the fact that the right wing has made a whole tempest out of the teapot that is Obama shaking hands with Castro, but you are, indeed, ignorant of the meaning of the word "ignorant".
 
2013-12-12 01:30:20 PM  
The man is a politician he would shake Satan's hand. Hell, he dines with people who are actually poisoning your air, food, and water and thinks nothing of it.
 
2013-12-12 01:32:30 PM  

trappedspirit: VendorXeno: Yeah I'll tell you what you've seen, or what you tried to see, or how you willfully tried to spin a situation that either you were lying about or intentionally remaining ignorant about, one or the other. And then when people called you on it, pointed out examples, etc., your response was to try to deny you said it at all. Not sure what you think is cute or fun about being ignorant, belligerent and dishonest, but trust me, it's not a good way to spend your free time.

This is how I know you are full of shiat.  Because it is running out of you and you can not stop it.  Do you know what a biased moron you sound like saying that you are going to tell me what I have seen?


Not one at all. It's called induction and deduction, the ability to arrive at conclusions based on evidence and reasoning. I know that these skills are just about anathema to the right, but you can definitely use them to figure out things about other people. That you think you're that utterly inexplicable just demonstrates you're not used to thinking, or being around people who think.  

The faux outrage unleashed from right wing pundits was immediate, well covered and easily accessed. Further, it was status quo, entirely typical and in keeping with the usual behavior from that quarter. Therefor you either saw it or you willfully avoided looking for something you knew probably existed, and instead elected to promote the idea that it didn't exist. There's really no other possible scenario, sorry. I know you think you're spinning a clever lie, but you're not, you're just making yourself look especially stupid.
 
2013-12-12 01:32:50 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Indeed it doesn't.  And from the way you have behaved in this thread, not only are you ignorant of the fact that the right wing has made a whole tempest out of the teapot that is Obama shaking hands with Castro, but you are, indeed, ignorant of the meaning of the word "ignorant".


I think your login makes sense to me now.
 
2013-12-12 01:34:16 PM  

VendorXeno: The faux outrage unleashed from right wing pundits was immediate, well covered and easily accessed. Further, it was status quo, entirely typical and in keeping with the usual behavior from that quarter. Therefor you either saw it or you willfully avoided looking for something you knew probably existed, and instead elected to promote the idea that it didn't exist. There's really no other possible scenario, sorry. I know you think you're spinning a clever lie, but you're not, you're just making yourself look especially stupid.


This X 1000.
 
2013-12-12 01:37:04 PM  
Well he did shake shake John Boehners hand, this shouldn't be surprising.
 
2013-12-12 01:39:12 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

Have you guessed which yet? Hint: I always give them properly capitalised names.

I couldn't care less about what you do with your alts.  It's just good to see having alts for the sole purpose of trolling is cool now.

Nope, not trolling. The alts are there to provide better lib arguments than actual libs can manage, so that NAME has something to get NAME's teeth into.


You, sir, are no Andy Kaufman.
 
2013-12-12 01:40:05 PM  

VendorXeno: Therefor you either saw it or you willfully avoided looking for something you knew probably existed, and instead elected to promote the idea that it didn't exist. There's really no other possible scenario, sorry. I know you think you're spinning a clever lie, but you're not, you're just making yourself look especially stupid.


I think this is getting no where.  You are one of those people that need to have an argument in order to communicate.  You've found a spot to inject a make believe argument so that you can get your arguing on.  And now you've decided things have to be one of two ways and no way else.  Yet both of them are lies.  Have you stopped beating your wife yet?  Yeah, I get it.  Have I ever suggested that the outrage was none existent?  Doesn't matter.  You keep stuffing that straw in my shirt but I'm not going to be your strawman.
 
2013-12-12 01:40:39 PM  
The Muthaship: I love how the media always tells us of the secret brilliance of every dumb ass move this guy makes.

This one was pretty blah, but it does show the consistency.
 DERPDERPDERP_LIBRUL_MEDIA_derpderpderpitydoo!

Know how I can tell you're an idiot?
 
2013-12-12 01:42:42 PM  

SpectroBoy: stevenboof: THE GREAT NAME: NAME understands libs so well that several of the libs on this very thread are actually NAME's sock-puppets (that is, NAME posting under another account name). Bet you can't guess which ;-)

Hmmmmm, setting up multiple accounts for the sole purpose of trolling.  Too bad there aren't any rules about his type of behavior.

HEY MODS - We have an troll who has admitted to using alts to troll.

Little help here?


You need to use the "notify moderators about this thread" link.
 
2013-12-12 01:43:22 PM  

trappedspirit: HeartBurnKid: Indeed it doesn't.  And from the way you have behaved in this thread, not only are you ignorant of the fact that the right wing has made a whole tempest out of the teapot that is Obama shaking hands with Castro, but you are, indeed, ignorant of the meaning of the word "ignorant".

I think your login makes sense to me now.


It should.  Shawn Michaels is awesome.
 
2013-12-12 01:44:29 PM  

trappedspirit: VendorXeno: Therefor you either saw it or you willfully avoided looking for something you knew probably existed, and instead elected to promote the idea that it didn't exist. There's really no other possible scenario, sorry. I know you think you're spinning a clever lie, but you're not, you're just making yourself look especially stupid.

I think this is getting no where.  You are one of those people that need to have an argument in order to communicate.  You've found a spot to inject a make believe argument so that you can get your arguing on.  And now you've decided things have to be one of two ways and no way else.  Yet both of them are lies.  Have you stopped beating your wife yet?  Yeah, I get it.  Have I ever suggested that the outrage was none existent?  Doesn't matter.  You keep stuffing that straw in my shirt but I'm not going to be your strawman.


I think it's definitely going somewhere. Many, many people here have recognized that you're being dishonest and trying to slander others. I, myself, prefer open, intelligent and honest dialogue, but I'll settle for exposing crackpots, liars and trolls, since it's kinda required to reach that stage anyway.
 
2013-12-12 01:54:18 PM  

SlothB77: Why is the media so thrilled by this?

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: Castro! He's shaking hands with Raul Castro.
CHRIS CUOMO: As Christiane points out, President Obama just shook hands with Raul Castro from Cuba.  What does that say as a gesture?
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: It says that this a moment of reconciliation for Mandela. And President Obama is doing the diplomatic thing. He's not just going to walk by and ignore these people who are there.  And they're all in a line.  He's kissing now the U.N. Secretary General, President Zuma.
ROBYN CURNOW: This is a man, and it is so true, who brought people together in life and he continues to bring people together in death.

The media is having orgasms over Obama shaking hands with Castro.  Why is that?  What does that say about them?  Does that seem a bit odd to you?
I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.  Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.


It's a funeral. If you can't manage to be polite enough to shake even your worst enemy's hand, GTFO, because people raised in a barn should probably take some etiquette classes before attending an event as sensitive as a funeral.
 
2013-12-12 01:56:56 PM  
Give it a couple years.  It will be full of spring break idiots at Pappas and Beers Havana.
 
2013-12-12 02:02:12 PM  
"The media is having orgasms over Obama shaking hands with Castro.  Why is that?  What does that say about them?  Does that seem a bit odd to you?
I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.   Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand.
 "

Far more concerned about the many, many, many more fellow citizens unjustly being held in our own nation's prisons than in Cuba's.

Cuba isn't my enemy. Castro isn't my enemy. I and my liberties are both currently more at risk from the US government than they could possibly be from Cuba. That's one of the many, many, many things these pundits don't get.
 
2013-12-12 02:11:43 PM  
For most of the thread all I've been seeing is this:

209.160.41.119

I love when threads get so derailed they're pointless...
 
2013-12-12 02:13:33 PM  

VendorXeno: trappedspirit: VendorXeno: Therefor you either saw it or you willfully avoided looking for something you knew probably existed, and instead elected to promote the idea that it didn't exist. There's really no other possible scenario, sorry. I know you think you're spinning a clever lie, but you're not, you're just making yourself look especially stupid.

I think this is getting no where.  You are one of those people that need to have an argument in order to communicate.  You've found a spot to inject a make believe argument so that you can get your arguing on.  And now you've decided things have to be one of two ways and no way else.  Yet both of them are lies.  Have you stopped beating your wife yet?  Yeah, I get it.  Have I ever suggested that the outrage was none existent?  Doesn't matter.  You keep stuffing that straw in my shirt but I'm not going to be your strawman.

I think it's definitely going somewhere. Many, many people here have recognized that you're being dishonest and trying to slander others. I, myself, prefer open, intelligent and honest dialogue, but I'll settle for exposing crackpots, liars and trolls, since it's kinda required to reach that stage anyway.


Expose?  Oh, okay.  Go right ahead.  I keep asking people to expose me but all they can do is tell me what I have seen and what I am thinking.  You don't win an argument when you fabricate things you want to be in other people's heads.
 
2013-12-12 02:14:11 PM  

trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"

They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.


Nope. The "I never heard about it so it doesn't exist" is a stupid defense.
 
2013-12-12 02:14:14 PM  

HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Welcome out of the cave.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/11/obama-shakes-raul-castro- ha nd-at-mandela-service/

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-on-obama-castro-handsha ke -chamberlain-shook-hands-with-hitler-audio

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/12/10/cnn-cuomo-obama-c as tr-handshake-not-be-misunderstood

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/192 61 5-rubio-slams-obama-handshake-with-castro

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/obama-castro-handshake-visual/2013/12 /1 0/id/541016

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2013/12/10/msnbccom-writer -h ails-obama-castro-handshake-omits-fact-cubans-holding

http://twitchy.com/2013/12/10/oh-bam-obamas-castro-handshake-in-shat te ring-perspective/

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/12/supreme_irony_of_obamaca st ro_handshake_goes_unnoticed.html

http://www.infowars.com/castro-handshake-what-about-that-obama-photo -o p-with-an-african-cannibal/


Oh my... you went out and got all those links?  How do you still have the will to live?  Have you at least taken a shower since?
 
2013-12-12 02:19:34 PM  

VendorXeno: "The media is having orgasms over Obama shaking hands with Castro.  Why is that?  What does that say about them?  Does that seem a bit odd to you?
I mean, there are Americans in prison in Cuba.   Obama's got no business shaking the guy's hand. "

Far more concerned about the many, many, many more fellow citizens unjustly being held in our own nation's prisons than in Cuba's.

Cuba isn't my enemy. Castro isn't my enemy. I and my liberties are both currently more at risk from the US government than they could possibly be from Cuba. That's one of the many, many, many things these pundits don't get.


Maybe he was referring to the embargo.  None of us have any business shaking the guy's hand.  Just warm feelings.  Except cigars.
 
2013-12-12 02:25:10 PM  

Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"

They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.

Nope. The "I never heard about it so it doesn't exist" is a stupid defense.


I agree.  Who made that claim?
 
2013-12-12 02:27:00 PM  

trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"

They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.

Nope. The "I never heard about it so it doesn't exist" is a stupid defense.

I agree.  Who made that claim?


Do you have a mirror handy?
 
2013-12-12 02:29:34 PM  

Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"

They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.

Nope. The "I never heard about it so it doesn't exist" is a stupid defense.

I agree.  Who made that claim?

Do you have a mirror handy?


Do you have a citation handy?
 
2013-12-12 02:30:06 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: THE GREAT NAME: dinch: THE GREAT NAME: dinch: Hilarious. This reminds me of a friend of mine that was cheating on her boyfriend. For some dumb reason the guy she was cheating with sent her a love letter, and for an even dumber reason she held on to it. When her boyfriend found it and confronted her she grabbed the note, tore it up and flushed it down the toilet. Then denied there was ever a note.

The people in this thread stating that there was never any outrage are like that girl. Unfortunately, you can't flush the interwebs down the toilet.

You hang out with love cheats? Typical lib.

Like I'm going to care if a stupid girl tries to insult me.

Stupid girl????

Reported to mods: trolling other users

You are boring.



Hence, farkied "Boring troll."
 
2013-12-12 02:34:00 PM  

trappedspirit: VendorXeno: trappedspirit: VendorXeno: Therefor you either saw it or you willfully avoided looking for something you knew probably existed, and instead elected to promote the idea that it didn't exist. There's really no other possible scenario, sorry. I know you think you're spinning a clever lie, but you're not, you're just making yourself look especially stupid.

I think this is getting no where.  You are one of those people that need to have an argument in order to communicate.  You've found a spot to inject a make believe argument so that you can get your arguing on.  And now you've decided things have to be one of two ways and no way else.  Yet both of them are lies.  Have you stopped beating your wife yet?  Yeah, I get it.  Have I ever suggested that the outrage was none existent?  Doesn't matter.  You keep stuffing that straw in my shirt but I'm not going to be your strawman.

I think it's definitely going somewhere. Many, many people here have recognized that you're being dishonest and trying to slander others. I, myself, prefer open, intelligent and honest dialogue, but I'll settle for exposing crackpots, liars and trolls, since it's kinda required to reach that stage anyway.

Expose?  Oh, okay.  Go right ahead.  I keep asking people to expose me but all they can do is tell me what I have seen and what I am thinking.  You don't win an argument when you fabricate things you want to be in other people's heads.


Yeah, you're stupid, ignorant, belligerent and dishonest, and you're clearly not worth interacting with anymore.
 
2013-12-12 02:40:22 PM  

trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"

They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.

Nope. The "I never heard about it so it doesn't exist" is a stupid defense.

I agree.  Who made that claim?

Do you have a mirror handy?

Do you have a citation handy?


Obtuse or trolling. I can't tell anymore.
 
2013-12-12 02:43:50 PM  

VendorXeno: I think it's definitely going somewhere. Many, many people here have recognized that you're being dishonest and trying to slander others. I, myself, prefer open, intelligent and honest dialogue, but I'll settle for exposing crackpots, liars and trolls, since it's kinda required to reach that stage anyway.

Expose?  Oh, okay.  Go right ahead.  I keep asking people to expose me but all they can do is tell me what I have seen and what I am thinking.  You don't win an argument when you fabricate things you want to be in other people's heads.

Yeah, you're stupid, ignorant, belligerent and dishonest, and you're clearly not worth interacting with anymore.


You know how I knew this was going to end with ad hominems and zero proof.  But foxnews does have some voice about it.  I don't usually go to that site, but I figured I must have missed a news cycle and wanted to see the outrage firsthand.  Little did I know that all I would find would be Bill O'Really disagreeing with John TheCane.
 
2013-12-12 02:51:23 PM  

Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: cameroncrazy1984: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Oh, I see. You don't get the difference between making fun of GOP arugula-based nontroversies and "apologists"

They are apologizing for his behavior by saying everyone plays this fake diplomatic game.  I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this.  Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

So because you're ignorant they're "apologists". Gotcha.

I think you got that backwards.

Nope. The "I never heard about it so it doesn't exist" is a stupid defense.

I agree.  Who made that claim?

Do you have a mirror handy?

Do you have a citation handy?

Obtuse or trolling. I can't tell anymore.


That fabrication in bold.  That no one said.  Is this your creation?
 
2013-12-12 02:52:35 PM  
My lord. trappedspirit is still in hear crying about how no one is helping him move the goal posts? Give it up already.
 
2013-12-12 03:01:59 PM  
Cuba isn't really "free" until they have a McDonald's and a Walmart in Havana. And you can quote me on that.
 
2013-12-12 03:14:23 PM  

impaler: My lord. trappedspirit is still in hear crying about how no one is helping him move the goal posts? Give it up already.


I went out to lunch, came back and he's still doing it. It's breathtaking.
 
2013-12-12 03:20:29 PM  

impaler: My lord. trappedspirit is still in hear crying about how no one is helping him move the goal posts? Give it up already.


You still beating on that strawman?  Wow.
 
2013-12-12 03:23:57 PM  

whidbey: Cuba isn't really "free" until they have a McDonald's and a Walmart in Havana. And you can quote me on that.



Your disdain for a functioning modern economy would be funny except for the part where only 7 out of Cuba's 17 power plants are functional, and there are about 125 days a year with major power outages.

But I'm sure that the Cuban people, as they swelter in their tropical climate while 60 or 70 years behind the rest of the world technologically, frequently smile and think of how much they enjoy having your approval at their lack of McDonald's and Wal*Mart.
 
2013-12-12 03:25:55 PM  
And seriously if at this point you are still complaining about Cuba and how dare we normalize relations, you are a tool of an anachronistic establishment.
 
2013-12-12 03:28:50 PM  

qorkfiend: ElLoco: I don't really keep up with these things... but why is there still an embargo again? I'm assuming there's some sort of at least half-assed reason?

The reason is that Fidel Castro is a communist.

The real reason is that Florida is still full of anti-Castro Cuban expats, and no serious candidate for President wants alienate Florida and its 29 EV, so when it comes to Cuba the Republicans whip up their base and the Democrats remain silent.


Only when all politicians stop pandering to silly nostalgic old people's fears and prejudices will our society move ahead.
 
2013-12-12 03:35:23 PM  

SpectroBoy: The Muthaship: I love how the media always tells us of the secret brilliance of every dumb ass move this guy makes.

So your position is that having diplomatic discussions with a country physically close to our own is a dumbass move?

Sounds like your opinion of Obama is sort of like this;
[static.someecards.com image 420x294]


Years ago when Obama was first elected I was flipping around on the radio and on the right wing talk sation they were playing a clip about how he met the crew of air force one and they asked him if he would like a special food. He asked for dijon mustard and the female host of the show flipped out about how he was a snob. I jsut rolled my eyes. I may not be a fan of the presiden be jeebus that is some nit picking shiat there.
 
2013-12-12 03:43:48 PM  

trappedspirit: impaler: My lord. trappedspirit is still in hear crying about how no one is helping him move the goal posts? Give it up already.

You still beating on that strawman?  Wow.



Classic FlashLV. That's how Ima Farky you.
 
2013-12-12 03:46:09 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Only when all politicians stop pandering to silly nostalgic old people's fears and prejudices will our society move ahead.


It was my understanding that to become a politician you had to be vetted by old people with fears and prejudices?
 
2013-12-12 03:50:25 PM  
You can't spell trappedspirit without 'derp'.

/just sayin
 
2013-12-12 03:52:20 PM  

Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: impaler: My lord. trappedspirit is still in hear crying about how no one is helping him move the goal posts? Give it up already.

You still beating on that strawman?  Wow.


Classic FlashLV. That's how Ima Farky you.


Is that another user that people kept imaging they were arguing some point with but couldn't quote their original position because it only existed in their head?
 
2013-12-12 03:57:37 PM  

blottoman: You can't spell trappedspirit without 'derp'.

/just sayin


Don't tell thunderpipes
 
2013-12-12 03:58:26 PM  
Left-wing, right-wing, left-wing, right-wing ... I've never hoped for an airshow disaster more than now.
 
2013-12-12 04:03:59 PM  

Thunderboy: Left-wing, right-wing, left-wing, right-wing ... I've never hoped for an airshow disaster more than now.


Yay, and now a snotty fence-sitter smugly proclaiming nothing of substance to make the collection complete!
 
2013-12-12 04:07:58 PM  

blottoman: You can't spell trappedspirit without 'derp'.

/just sayin


or ape spit, incidentially
or dirt star
or rat is tripe

I should probably start paying attention to my meeting...
 
2013-12-12 05:04:28 PM  
Any media-tv, blogs, radio, whatever-thrive on manufactured outrage. It's disgusting, and we all fall for the bait.
 
2013-12-12 05:16:16 PM  

ElLoco: I don't really keep up with these things... but why is there still an embargo again? I'm assuming there's some sort of at least half-assed reason?


Florida Republicans
 
2013-12-12 05:32:55 PM  

ElLoco: I don't really keep up with these things... but why is there still an embargo again? I'm assuming there's some sort of at least half-assed reason?


Maybe it is the guy they are keeping in prison.
 
2013-12-12 05:34:02 PM  

trappedspirit: I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this. Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.


Those goalposts must be heavy.  Take a break and let the better trolls take over.
 
2013-12-12 05:37:31 PM  
Time for "Hot Native Cuban Ladies" thread?
 
2013-12-12 05:41:28 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: Nappy Imus: Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D

You're so convinced of you lib opinions, that you can't even accept as human those who disagree. Sad, really. Luckily libs are not as organised as the Germans otherwise you would no doubt start Holocausting those who do not share stupid lib opinions.


Nice Godwin, Hitler.
 
2013-12-12 05:47:04 PM  
Can we trade them Florida for Castro's resignation and free elections?
 
2013-12-12 05:47:42 PM  
Loving the claims that nobody on the right got their panties in a twist over the handshake.

You guys realize these things are recorded, right?
 
2013-12-12 06:06:58 PM  
 
2013-12-12 06:21:32 PM  

blindio: HeartBurnKid: trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

[i13.photobucket.com image 222x282]

Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

[i141.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Welcome out of the cave.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/11/obama-shakes-raul-castro- ha nd-at-mandela-service/

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-on-obama-castro-handsha ke -chamberlain-shook-hands-with-hitler-audio

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/12/10/cnn-cuomo-obama-c as tr-handshake-not-be-misunderstood

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/192 61 5-rubio-slams-obama-handshake-with-castro

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/obama-castro-handshake-visual/2013/12 /1 0/id/541016

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2013/12/10/msnbccom-writer -h ails-obama-castro-handshake-omits-fact-cubans-holding

http://twitchy.com/2013/12/10/oh-bam-obamas-castro-handshake-in-shat te ring-perspective/

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/12/supreme_irony_of_obamaca st ro_handshake_goes_unnoticed.html

http://www.infowars.com/castro-handshake-what-about-that-obama-photo -o p-with-an-african-cannibal/

Oh my... you went out and got all those links?  How do you still have the will to live?  Have you at least taken a shower since?


It is too late for him, he has been exposed now. I doubt he has more than a week to live
 
2013-12-12 06:25:42 PM  
This is one of the first times that the GOP has actually given a crap about the Cuban people anyway.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/sen-marco-rubio-says- he -wants-to-re-examine-cubans-fast-track-status-but/2128556
 
2013-12-12 07:35:25 PM  

VendorXeno: Thunderboy: Left-wing, right-wing, left-wing, right-wing ... I've never hoped for an airshow disaster more than now.

Yay, and now a snotty fence-sitter smugly proclaiming nothing of substance to make the collection complete!


Not a fence-sitter, just not a mindless follower.  And I'm getting over a cold.
 
2013-12-12 07:53:34 PM  

Thunderboy: VendorXeno: Thunderboy: Left-wing, right-wing, left-wing, right-wing ... I've never hoped for an airshow disaster more than now.

Yay, and now a snotty fence-sitter smugly proclaiming nothing of substance to make the collection complete!

Not a fence-sitter, just not a mindless follower.  And I'm getting over a cold.


No, you're a mindless contrarian.
 
2013-12-12 07:58:35 PM  

Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this. Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

Those goalposts must be heavy.  Take a break and let the better trolls take over.


I don't think you understand what that handy dandy logical fallacy is supposed to be used for.  But I'm glad you got the link to the list.
 
2013-12-12 08:04:19 PM  

Thunderboy: VendorXeno: Thunderboy: Left-wing, right-wing, left-wing, right-wing ... I've never hoped for an airshow disaster more than now.

Yay, and now a snotty fence-sitter smugly proclaiming nothing of substance to make the collection complete!

Not a fence-sitter, just not a mindless follower.  And I'm getting over a cold.


But you are mindless. See, you never take the time to evaluate either position for merits. You blindly call adherents, "followers," which is stupid, and never even consider the idea that someone might adhere to, or reject, a position due to actual presence of, or lack of, merits. In short, you avoid thinking about any position rationally while pointlessly insulting anyone who takes one, which is even more stupid. You are young in thought, ignorant and trite.
 
2013-12-12 09:21:01 PM  
So long as neither use a feminine grip, there is no need for ridicule over any handshake.
 
2013-12-12 10:31:23 PM  
I think there was more outrage at the "selfie" he took with the PM of Denmark.
 
2013-12-12 11:17:37 PM  

trappedspirit: Lord_Baull: trappedspirit: I've seen more apologists for this event than accusers.  This is weird propaganda machine.

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Yeah, the first I even heard of this was from the apologists on facebook already cranking out stuff like this

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I don't know why but this just made me laugh my ass off :D
 
2013-12-12 11:27:55 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Coming on a Bicycle: KellyX: So let me get this straight...

The Obama Administration has been quietly for the last 2 months been trying to begin talks with Cuba (which realistically we knew was going on after they announced that Cubans could start traveling there, or whatever that was) and when they got the chance to meet publically at a event on neutral ground, Castro offered his hand and probably told Obama he was ready to talk more and start normalizing relations.

So this is what I see...

1. End 2 wars and start pulling most troops out

2. Killed Osama bin Laden

3. Helped End Gadhafi's dictatorship (not much you can do afterwards with its ppl, they have to sort that out)

4. Something something Egypt... What can you do about people that want to vote stupid in though.

5. Starting process of normalizing relations with Iran

6. Starting process of normalizing relations with Cuba

/but he's worse President ever, not 'cause he's black, god no, how can you bring race into it!? He's just an empty suit do nothing that we're threatened by because he does stuff, oh and he's a communist, marxist, socialist, nazi, fascist, liberal, kenyan, uppity ni.... uhhh... democrat...! Yea! What's the problem with all these bl.... blah people???

And he closed Guantanamo, of course.

He did try.  Congress had a giant bipartisan pants-wetting over bringing the Gitmo detainees onto American soil for trial and detainment, and did everything possible to prevent it from happening.  Because, you know, the instant the terrorists set foot in the US, they'll gain superpowers from our yellow sun and destroy the country.


Its seems you're believing the political theater is actual reality. He's the president, the executive branch. He wouldn't even need an executive order to close down Guantanamo Bay if he'd really wanted to. Its obvious that he didn't, but you believe what you want, its a free country. . .
 
2013-12-12 11:47:37 PM  

trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this. Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

Those goalposts must be heavy.  Take a break and let the better trolls take over.

I don't think you understand what that handy dandy logical fallacy is supposed to be used for.  But I'm glad you got the link to the list.


Yes I do.  But I'm not surprised you don't since Google is beyond your grasp as this thread has proven.
 
2013-12-12 11:53:41 PM  

Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: Fart_Machine: trappedspirit: I've yet to see anyone losing their mind over this. Just the apologists out in force but the other team didn't even know it was game day.

Those goalposts must be heavy.  Take a break and let the better trolls take over.

I don't think you understand what that handy dandy logical fallacy is supposed to be used for.  But I'm glad you got the link to the list.

Yes I do.  But I'm not surprised you don't since Google is beyond your grasp as this thread has proven.


Then please, for the love of god, reset the goal posts to their original position and tell me what you think my original position was that I slipped from defending.  Just state that.  You claimed I moved the goalposts, so you should be very aware of what position they were in.
 
2013-12-13 01:22:23 AM  

VendorXeno: But you are mindless. See, you never take the time to evaluate either position for merits. You blindly call adherents, "followers," which is stupid, and never even consider the idea that someone might adhere to, or reject, a position due to actual presence of, or lack of, merits. In short, you avoid thinking about any position rationally while pointlessly insulting anyone who takes one, which is even more stupid. You are young in thought, ignorant and trite.


I prefer to evaluate the individual issues and take a position on each, I don't take the positions proscribed by a group.  That's not "ignorance", it's "open-mindedness".

I also try not to get all worked up about dumb jokes someone makes on the internet.
 
2013-12-13 02:42:06 AM  
So,
they AREN'T getting same-sex married after all? How sad, and I had already chosen a tasteful gift.
languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu
 
2013-12-13 03:28:39 AM  

Thunderboy: VendorXeno: But you are mindless. See, you never take the time to evaluate either position for merits. You blindly call adherents, "followers," which is stupid, and never even consider the idea that someone might adhere to, or reject, a position due to actual presence of, or lack of, merits. In short, you avoid thinking about any position rationally while pointlessly insulting anyone who takes one, which is even more stupid. You are young in thought, ignorant and trite.

I prefer to evaluate the individual issues and take a position on each, I don't take the positions proscribed by a group.  That's not "ignorance", it's "open-mindedness".

I also try not to get all worked up about dumb jokes someone makes on the internet.


 Naw, you didn't do that, either. Quite the opposite, you took this single, tiny issue and then derived the two sides from it, gleefully and childishly chanting the terms despite the fact that people weren't claiming affiliation. See, to evaluate issues you actually have to think about them, not just mindlessly taunt others talking about them.
 
2013-12-13 09:56:03 AM  

Nappy Imus: HeartBurnKid: Coming on a Bicycle: KellyX: So let me get this straight...

The Obama Administration has been quietly for the last 2 months been trying to begin talks with Cuba (which realistically we knew was going on after they announced that Cubans could start traveling there, or whatever that was) and when they got the chance to meet publically at a event on neutral ground, Castro offered his hand and probably told Obama he was ready to talk more and start normalizing relations.

So this is what I see...

1. End 2 wars and start pulling most troops out

2. Killed Osama bin Laden

3. Helped End Gadhafi's dictatorship (not much you can do afterwards with its ppl, they have to sort that out)

4. Something something Egypt... What can you do about people that want to vote stupid in though.

5. Starting process of normalizing relations with Iran

6. Starting process of normalizing relations with Cuba

/but he's worse President ever, not 'cause he's black, god no, how can you bring race into it!? He's just an empty suit do nothing that we're threatened by because he does stuff, oh and he's a communist, marxist, socialist, nazi, fascist, liberal, kenyan, uppity ni.... uhhh... democrat...! Yea! What's the problem with all these bl.... blah people???

And he closed Guantanamo, of course.

He did try.  Congress had a giant bipartisan pants-wetting over bringing the Gitmo detainees onto American soil for trial and detainment, and did everything possible to prevent it from happening.  Because, you know, the instant the terrorists set foot in the US, they'll gain superpowers from our yellow sun and destroy the country.

Its seems you're believing the political theater is actual reality. He's the president, the executive branch. He wouldn't even need an executive order to close down Guantanamo Bay if he'd really wanted to. Its obvious that he didn't, but you believe what you want, its a free country. . .


It may surprise you to know this, but the US is not a dictatorship.  Congress has the power of the purse, and Congress blocked him from using any funds to close Gitmo.  Any at all.  Sure, he technically could shut the prison down, but he couldn't do anything more than have the staff open up the cells and say, "You're free, boys, have fun in Cuba" on their way out.
 
2013-12-13 01:59:36 PM  

HeartBurnKid: It may surprise you to know this, but the US is not a dictatorship.  Congress has the power of the purse, and Congress blocked him from using any funds to close Gitmo.  Any at all.  Sure, he technically could shut the prison down, but he couldn't do anything more than have the staff open up the cells and say, "You're free, boys, have fun in Cuba" on their way out.


Kind of wish he would, I'd love to see McCain have a heart attack while biatching up a storm...
 
2013-12-13 03:00:35 PM  
LOL. You guys got baited big time. Willfully obtuse trolls are the easiest to spot, because they act like 5 year old children that keep denying that the sky is blue even when you tell them to look up. Trying to explain facts to them is as futile as teaching a fish to grow lungs and breathe air.
 
2013-12-13 06:44:03 PM  

THE GREAT NAME: Nappy Imus: Its starting to sound like THE GREAT NAME is a bot, you know, an automatic response program with no human pulling the strings. Watch :D

You're so convinced of you lib opinions, that you can't even accept as human those who disagree. Sad, really. Luckily libs are not as organised as the Germans otherwise you would no doubt start Holocausting those who do not share stupid lib opinions.


That is a stupid reply.
 
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