nekom: Seems to me that if I produced a game, I would want people watching let's play videos. Free advertising. What exactly is their objection?
Lumbar Puncture: red5ish: Reviewing games and showing viewers how to play and successful strategies is a valuable resource for gamers and free advertising for game companies. If the YouTube poster manages to make a few bucks doing the work - even turning it into a full time job - so much the better. If the poster makes a product that is valuable to his audience and the game manufacturers why shouldn't he/she get paid? Quality content deserves compensation and figuring out not only how to produce the content but how to get paid for it isn't easy. If Google and/or YouTube are sending out takedown notices, copyright claims or warnings by way of an algorithm that's shoddy work. If Google wants YouTube to be nothing but cat videos and people falling off their skateboards that's their business but please quit buying websites and destroying them.Because their work relies on content that they didn't create and aren't offering any compensation for to the original creators of and never received authorization to use. Clips, parodies, etc are fair use but there are a lot of videos which show entire games from beginning to end. Youtube's algorithm is overzealous and they'll hopefully scale it back a bit, but making a living putting commentary tracks on the work of another person is kind of shiatty.
Begoggle: If this shuts down Pewdiepie and his stupid channel then I'm all for it
Lumbar Puncture: Let's Plays don't pay for the content either,
CtrlAltDestroy: Citation needed. WITH citation of the limits of percent of total product to be used
CtrlAltDestroy: The point is that one cannot effectively argue on a point which one is not familiar with.
Lumbar Puncture: This sentence made this thread worth it alone. Respond or be written off as a person!
Lumbar Puncture: CtrlAltDestroy: I wouldn't care. Good for them.Cool. I would. You'd have the right to allow them to do so, while I'd have the right to restrict my work. Awesome to have those options, ain't it?
nulluspixiusdemonica: About time......collection of sweaty neckbeards huffing and "umm"ing into dimestore mics displaying far too much emotional investment...
Lumbar Puncture: Kinek: So, either MST3k fans really, really love their Gamera, MST3k added, with their jokes and tone, 4.1 points of value to the movie. That's pretty damn transformative in experience. I'm not sure how you can argue otherwise. They literally doubled the value of GameraRemove the movie and what's the value of the commentary without it?
Lumbar Puncture: Kinek: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.The end goal is to create a cultural domain which FUTURE artists are allowed to draw from. Not so you can make a living. That's a byproductOkay? I'm cool with the distribution rights of creators being protected to help promote and create a cultural domain for artists in the future to draw from that also helps artist make a living now.
Lumbar Puncture: Goddamn, I need to buy a new keyboard or start using the preview function.Kinek: I'd make the argument that the 'Majority' of the creative work for MST3k was the value added by the riffing crew. If I can, through my own efforts, take a work and recreate it or put it in such a context that it goes from unwatchable, to highly entertaining, then I'd say that that's transformativeMaking jokes over a creative work doesn't transform it into something else. That's why Rifftrax offers the commentary separately, they don't have to pay for the distribution rights of the movies while still offering the part that they are responsible for creating.
RoxtarRyan: HeartBurnKid: So, it turns out that Lets Players aren't the only ones who got caught in this net...FTFA: "Game Critic Says Youtube Copyright Policy Threatens His Livelihood"Sorry, cheeky guy with the very grandma-esque armoir behind you, but if you've based your entire livelihood on being a Youtube videogame critic and had no other fallback plan... Some mistakes were probably made.From the video of the gentleman who shows the diversity of the word "f*ck":"For years, Youtube made billions off the backs of people and now they're saying fark them".Welcome to the real world, dude. People get fired/laid off/etc every day. Xerox laid off hundreds of people with armed police present at the scene a couple days ago, but yeah, your world is rocked because Youtube is doing what they damn well want with their website. These people are so angry, just find another outlet, or get a server and host your own videos. It isn't difficult, and if your livelihood depended on it, you should have taken steps to ensure that it isn't threatened like this.
HeartBurnKid: Lumbar Puncture: Most publishers are more generous than movie studios, they don't care if you put a let's play video up, unless it's monetized.Most of them don't even care then. In fact, a lot of publishers have come out to say that they're not behind the YouTube DMCApocalypse, and they're willing to help the affected producers to sort things out with YouTube.
fluffy2097: Are we so lazy as a nation now we have to watch other people play video games for us?
comslave: two words: Dailymotion, Vimeo.Who said Youtube was the only game in town?
doczoidberg: Well, all good things must come to an end. Time to find YouTube's replacement. I'm honestly surprised there isn't already competition out there.
snake_beater: Nah, I think this is just someone's bad idea of a joke.
fluffy2097: Are we so lazy as a nation now we have to watch other people play video games for us?/Ban Mod Horror
meanmutton: tallen702:Wonder if it's a last-ditch effort to cash in on copyright/patent trolling before that kind of thing gets shut down in the near future.From the letter above, this is my guess: Someone is going around filing these copyright notices on Youtube to try to scam some of the revenue that Let's Play, etc., are pulling in.
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