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(Opposing Views)   Cop hears a man clear his throat, decides to a.) ignore it, b.) check to see if he's OK, or c.) slam his head into the wall?   (opposingviews.com ) divider line
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2013-12-11 10:02:00 PM  
12 votes:
Once again, the 95% of cops who are dirty go screwing it up for the 5% who are clean.  You'd think someone would come up with some way of fixing this.  The camera in the holding cell is a good start.  But we can go further:
1: Helmet/lapel cams for 100 percent of uniformed officers, on with HD video and stereo sound 100% of the time.  Footage to be streamed live to a third-party data company in charge with the safety of the data.  Change the criminal procedure to state that any arrest for which there can be found no cam footage of the arrest is not only immediately to be nullified by the first judge to see the case, but any/all officers with "missing" footage of the arrest are immediately put on unpaid leave until the technical issue is figured out.
2: all police departments of over 50 officers must have an ombudsman on call 24/7 who MUST BE CALLED upon request by any civillian contacted by the officers.  Now, if they abuse the privilege, we can write a criminal penalty into "intentional overuse of the ombudsman".  But everyone out there should have a number they can call at any time to get someone on their side looking at the crime  scene and evidence.
3: all police departments of under 50 officers must work with other local, small PDs to obtain the same ombudsman coverage as stated above.
4: Any police officer found to be hiding, destroying, or otherwise not preserving potentially exculpatory evidence shall be charged with Violation of Civilian Constitutional Rights, with a penalty exactly the same as the crime that the civilian was/was to be charged with.
5: Any police officer found to be escalating use of force outside of a clear need to do so will be charged with Battery on a Civillian by a Peace Officer, which will be a Felony of the same type as that state's statute for Battery on an LEO.
6: Any police officer found to be using force upon a restrained arrestee shall be charged with Aggravated Assault upon a Helpless Civillian, with a penalty identical to that of the state's statute for Aggravated Assault upon a LEO
7: Any police officer using an electrical device such as a Taser for the sole purpose of obtaining compliance shall lose their right to carry such weapon.  Any LEO deploying an electrical weapon solely due to the "attitude" of the subject shall be charged with Simple Batttery on a Civilian, punished exactly as that state's statutes punish battery upon a LEO.  They will also permanently lose their right to carry an electrical weapon.

That would work as a start, I think.
2013-12-11 10:19:06 PM  
7 votes:

namegoeshere: The few, rare bad apples, and all the others who lie and cover up for them.


If you're going to use the phrase, use the WHOLE phrase:  One bad apple will spoil the whole barrel.

What this means is that if you allow a single rotten apple in your apple barrel, that rot will quickly spread to the remaining apples, and so it's important to remove it immediately.  If you have one bad cop, you're eventually going to have a whole police force full of bad cops UNLESS YOU REMOVE THE BAD COP IMMEDIATELY.
2013-12-11 08:20:08 PM  
7 votes:
Did you guys not see the best part?

 He has been placed on unpaid leave while the criminal case goes forward.

This is a trend that needs to continue
2013-12-11 10:04:56 PM  
6 votes:

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.


Sure you do: http://www.google.com/#q=officer+honored&tbm=nws

But then you have over 4 times as many results searching this: https://www.google.com/#q=officer+charged&tbm=nws

You don't get a news story for doing your job. You do get a news story for doing an exceptional job and doing a horrible job. Exceptional jobs are far outnumbered right now.
2013-12-11 10:00:49 PM  
6 votes:
The few, rare bad apples, and all the others who lie and cover up for them.
2013-12-11 08:03:54 PM  
6 votes:
The video looked like it went like this

Drunk person is drunk, saying "this man is a gentleman", in a way a drunk person might think is being friendly
coont of an officer apparently misunderstands and argues "he's just doing his job"
Drunk person is drunk and tries repeating it in hope it makes sense
coont of an officer is a coont, and so is his officer friends.

I honestly can't tell what happens next, he doesn't clear his throat, he makes like he might be blowing something out of his mouth, but it's definitely not spitting, but it's enough that I would expect a coont of a police officer to overreact.

coont of a police officer overreacts
His coont friends join in to overreact

Some elderly woman comes along to check out his head injury, while they all lie about how he spat.

They're all coonts, except the drunk guy, and the elderly woman.

I wouldn't say that to their face, of course, because I've already served my time in hospital after coming off the wrong end of a police officer's coontishness. I have no inclination to do it again, and I know all police officers aren't coonts, but those 3 in the video are clearly a bag of coonts each.

/drunk
2013-12-11 10:44:02 PM  
5 votes:

Giltric: Maybe all civil rights/civil lawsuits should be paid out of the pension fund.

The taxpayer is going to have to pick up the tab for cops like this....why not let he taxpayer pick up the tab in creative ways that hurts the cops and serves as a deterrent to other cops.


My solution has always been to require cops to obtain private insurance for such incidents.  Eventually the bad cops will be uninsurable and therefore unemployable as a sworn officer.
2013-12-11 08:14:25 PM  
4 votes:
2013-12-11 10:38:33 PM  
3 votes:

dahmers love zombie: Once again, the 95% of cops who are dirty go screwing it up for the 5% who are clean. You'd think someone would come up with some way of fixing this.


How about NOT hiring former jocks and high school bullies into the police department? That's a start.

Also, how about requiring EVERY officer to take a series of psych tests and aggression tests AT RANDOM every other months?

And on top of that, how about a second agency of cops who don't police civilians, but police the civilian police? The cop-cops, if you will. Their ONLY job would be to patrol towns and watch the cops. They would sometimes be assigned to follow the cops EVERYWHERE, and the cops wouldn't be able to do jack-shiat about it. The cop-cops wouldn't have the power to arrest non-police civilians; Only civilian cops would be in their jurisdiction, though they could certainly call the civilian cops and monitor their response time if they witnessed a crime, and they could act if there was an emergency in their presence and no civilian cops were around to help.

The cop-cops would answer to a civilian board of community-elected officials. The cop-cops would wear monitoring devices to monitor THEIR actions and the actions of the cops they police. If their monitoring devices are ever shut off or blocked, the civilian board is instructed to assume that a crime was committed in the absence of video/audio evidence to the contrary, and the cop-cop would be disciplined.

The civilian board would have term limits of 2 years, and could not be re-elected to the board if they ever served on a civilian board overseeing cop-cops in the past, in any county in the USA. The board seats would be open to any civilian aged 18 or older, as long as said civilian does not have a police officer in their immediate family (parents, siblings, step-parents, step-siblings, half-siblings, siblings-in-law, etc.) or have themselves never been in law enforcements in any capacity (cop, security guard, lawyer, judge, etc.)

The cop-cops would have the authority to arrest any police officer on the spot. The monitoring devices would provide evidence admissible in any court of law. The testimony of the cop-cops would be considered more valuable than the testimony of cops (much like a cop's testimony is considered more valid than a civilian's in our current system).

If the regular justice system lets us down (judges and district attorneys letting cops go, for example) then we'd switch to a tribunal system designed especially to mete out justice to police officers. The tribunal would also be an elected committee, and NOBODY with previous law enforcement would be allowed on this committee. The hearings would be jury trials, and the cops and county would have to rely on public defenders to argue the cases. No DA, no high-priced lawyers, no union lawyers. Everyone gets a fair shake and the same level of representation in court.

And if this doesn't work, then we just arm all civilians with ferrets, take crazy pills, and burn it all down.
2013-12-11 10:22:58 PM  
3 votes:

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: namegoeshere: The few, rare bad apples, and all the others who lie and cover up for them.

If you're going to use the phrase, use the WHOLE phrase:  One bad apple will spoil the whole barrel.

What this means is that if you allow a single rotten apple in your apple barrel, that rot will quickly spread to the remaining apples, and so it's important to remove it immediately.  If you have one bad cop, you're eventually going to have a whole police force full of bad cops UNLESS YOU REMOVE THE BAD COP IMMEDIATELY.


THIN BLUE LINE.

Riddle me this: why do frantic "union buster" conservatives always exclude police unions?
2013-12-11 10:13:56 PM  
3 votes:
Maybe all civil rights/civil lawsuits should be paid out of the pension fund.

The taxpayer is going to have to pick up the tab for cops like this....why not let he taxpayer pick up the tab in creative ways that hurts the cops and serves as a deterrent to other cops.
2013-12-11 10:10:06 PM  
3 votes:

namegoeshere: They're charging him with misdemeanor battery. For smashing a restrained (and completely unable to defend himself) man's head into a cement wall hard enough to knock him out and leave blood trails on the wall.


If a citizen has assaulted a cop the same way you can bet your ass the DA would be throwing felony charges at the citizen. I'm surprised the drunk guy wasn't charged with spreading possible harmful body fluids around (the blood on the wall).And it's sad that only one cop may take the fall for this, when all three cops filed false reports. Obviously they have an impairment to perform their jobs properly and should serve long unpaid suspensions. Would be better if they were just terminated for cause.
2013-12-11 11:30:00 PM  
2 votes:
Due to the increased use of security monitors as well as individual smartphones, prevalence of police brutality being caught on camera has been widespread throughout the past few years.

If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.

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2013-12-11 11:01:37 PM  
2 votes:
The thing that amazes me most is that he actually got charged with anything for bashing the drunks head into a wall. Its exceedingly rare for a cop to get charged for something done while on duty, especially for relatively minor things like this.

This cop deserves a public death in my opinion, but at least it appears they are doing something other than giving him a paid vacation which is a start.

Where I live (sonoma county, ca) they just reinstated the cop who shot a 12yo multiple times in the back. He had 6 weeks of paid vacation as a punishment, with the chief saying that his officer went by the book and did nothing wrong when he shot the 12 year old from behind with no warning. In response to the protests and marches agaisnt the cops and city hall, the cops have brought out the swat gear and tear gas.


I have said it many times before.
PEACEFUL PROTESTS DO NOT WORK. Violence is the only answer. Cops that break the rules need to die. Painfully.
2013-12-11 10:58:25 PM  
2 votes:

firefly212: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about

Well that's just not true.   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/30/chris-burbank-salt-lake-city _ n_4170154.html  There are stories out there of great cops doing great work, making departments better, police more effective, and communities more safe. Sadly, police abuse cases outnumber those great stories though... I can't really fault the cops too much though, if I was in a job like that, I'd hate pretty much everyone after a while too.


In all seriousness, I've been told that dealing daily with the trash end of humanity does burn them out quickly.

Then again, social workers also have to deal with the same people daily, and yet social workers don't get to commit repeated assaults and have their co-workers lie on their behalf and get administrative leave with pay.
2013-12-11 10:42:30 PM  
2 votes:
Cops are criminals hiding behind a badge
2013-12-11 10:22:38 PM  
2 votes:

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


That's because people shouldn't expect a pat on the back for doing the minimum necessary to do their job. If the only think keeping a cop from shooting a half a dozen bystanders is a newspaper article congratulating him, then he shouldn't be a cop.
2013-12-11 09:58:37 PM  
2 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?


You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about
2013-12-11 09:52:57 PM  
2 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Original link that's not OV or Daily Fail

FTL: The report also said each of the officers interviewed alleged Duckworth was combative, and either threw something at the officer or initiated the assault, but that video showed exactly what happened. Not once does the report call Duckworth combative.


This is the worst of it. Not that there was one asshole cop.  It's that every other cop who was present lied for him. So the cops who themselves might never have slammed someone's head into the wall for no reason except a dick-compensation power trip have no problem at all lying and covering up for the asshole who does.
2013-12-11 07:59:57 PM  
2 votes:

Triumph: Oh man, that teaser pic at the bottom leads to a seriously messed up gallery.


Though you gotta admit, the kneeling Mom was pretty tasty.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-12-11 07:49:29 PM  
2 votes:
As a condition of early release, drunks, street criminals, and other lowlifes could have bombs implanted in their skulls. If they complete probation, the bomb comes out. If they get into trouble and their head impacts a wall too hard, they and the wall-slammer both vaporize. This solves two problems.

/not a lawyer
2013-12-12 12:00:42 PM  
1 vote:

ZeroCorpse: How about NOT hiring former jocks and high school bullies into the police department?


Because those are the people that want to be cops and apply for the job. People that aren't power tripping bullies don't normally choose being an authoritarian dick as a profession.
People with the mentality to want to be cops are the last people who should be cops.
/same for politicians
2013-12-12 03:39:23 AM  
1 vote:
Cop's probably roided out.
2013-12-12 01:36:05 AM  
1 vote:

dahmers love zombie: Once again, the 95% of cops who are dirty go screwing it up for the 5% who are clean.  You'd think someone would come up with some way of fixing this.  The camera in the holding cell is a good start.  But we can go further:
1: Helmet/lapel cams for 100 percent of uniformed officers, on with HD video and stereo sound 100% of the time.  Footage to be streamed live to a third-party data company in charge with the safety of the data.  Change the criminal procedure to state that any arrest for which there can be found no cam footage of the arrest is not only immediately to be nullified by the first judge to see the case, but any/all officers with "missing" footage of the arrest are immediately put on unpaid leave until the technical issue is figured out.
2: all police departments of over 50 officers must have an ombudsman on call 24/7 who MUST BE CALLED upon request by any civillian contacted by the officers.  Now, if they abuse the privilege, we can write a criminal penalty into "intentional overuse of the ombudsman".  But everyone out there should have a number they can call at any time to get someone on their side looking at the crime  scene and evidence.
3: all police departments of under 50 officers must work with other local, small PDs to obtain the same ombudsman coverage as stated above.
4: Any police officer found to be hiding, destroying, or otherwise not preserving potentially exculpatory evidence shall be charged with Violation of Civilian Constitutional Rights, with a penalty exactly the same as the crime that the civilian was/was to be charged with.
5: Any police officer found to be escalating use of force outside of a clear need to do so will be charged with Battery on a Civillian by a Peace Officer, which will be a Felony of the same type as that state's statute for Battery on an LEO.
6: Any police officer found to be using force upon a restrained arrestee shall be charged with Aggravated Assault upon a Helpless Civillian, with a penalty identical to that ...


8. As a condition of employment, each officer must carry at his or her OWN EXPENSE Professional Liability Insurance, with coverage starting at $5 million the first five years and optionally decreasing afterwards, with any and all awards resulting from their misconduct to be paid by their carrier fully before the city or state kick in.

Accountants, contractors, and plumbers carry this kind of insurance which is maybe a few hundred bucks a year. A computer consultant going onto a customer's site must carry this insurance in case they go bugf*ck nuts and assault a receptionist or throw a chair through a window or piss on the database server.

First time a cop gets caught beating the crap out of a civvie for no reason, the insurer pays out and his carrier jacks up his rates.

Next time he's viddied blanket-macing a sidewalk full of dinnergoers from the running bar of the ol' SWAT war wagon - just because - the insurer pays out and his carrier jacks up his rates.

Pretty soon Officer RoidRage can't afford his premiums anymore and has to go work at the mall harassing minorities, losing his former gummint job with the sweet benefits, guaranteed pension after a relatively short service (unlike almost all other municipal employees), zealous protection from the consequences of their most blatant felonious conduct by not only their employer but their ultrafanatical and unassailable holy police union (again, unlike other municipal employees - even Wisconsin Gov. Walker at the apex of his power didn't dare mess with the police union (f*ck teachers and everyone else of course)), and of course prejudicial presumption of innocence and truth in any court proceedings.
2013-12-11 11:45:07 PM  
1 vote:

sendtodave: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about

It doesn't seem so rare.

How would you suggest taking power away from the assholes?


1. Someone above suggested civil suits have to come out of the pension fund. That would be one way. I remember when Rodney King got his settlement, and everyone was cheering F*CK YEAH! SHOW THOSE COPS!! except it didn't: It came out of the city of L.A.'s  account, which meant the taxpayers of the City, which meant everyone cheering F*CK YEAH SHOW THOSE COPS.

2. Hold the D.A.'s office accountable for investigating dirty/abusive cops. They are the ones who have to follow up on citizen's complaints and they are the ones who decide whether or not to charge those cops with crimes. Every time these threads come up and people shriek about bad cops not getting charged, guess what: It's not the cops' job to do anything but put them on leave. It's the District Attorney's. I've yet to see ANYONE hold them to account for not doing THEIR jobs.

3. Stop requiring police to do contradictory work. Nearly everyone expects police to: a) arrest bad guys, b) immediately, c) without error, d) without mercy; and at the same time i) arrest the RIGHT bad guys, ii) without hurting them, iii) without hurting anyone else, iv) without inconveniencing anyone else. One reason police went to Tasers is because of the hue&cry over seeing so many bruises on perps from excessive use of PR-24s. One reason we see SWAT teams armored up like Marines going into Fallujah is because people want barricaded suspects taken out of their hideouts NOW and not after a four-day standoff while they calmly talk him out--and that takes armor and firepower.

4. Disarm the police and put them back on foot; but provide immediate heavy weapons for backup when needed. Just as soldiers in enemy territory can do more to win "hearts and minds" when they can get out among the populace and interact with them, so law enforcement used to work better when beat officers actually knew the neighborhoods and the trouble spots. At the same time, criminals are better armed and meaner now than 50 years ago, so hardcore response is needed and should be available when necessary.

5. Assign one officer per patrol as the "designated shooter". One reason so many shootings seem to be overkill is that officers--like soldiers--are taught to empty their magazines. Police 9mms or Glocks hold 16 rounds, so if four officers are involved and all empty their pistols, that's a whopping 64 rounds that just got fired at the suspect. There should be an alpha, beta and delta designated shooter order, and no reloads unless facing multiple shooters.

6. One officer per patrol should have a head-mounted camera with a 30-second continuous loop, and a direct feed back to the patrol car. In any interaction with suspects, the officer presses a switch and it begins a live feed to the recording unit in the car. This could also be triggered remotely from the dispatch center upon receiving a 97-on scene call, in case of evolving situations.

7. All officers should be screened not less than every six months for signs of PTSD. Any officer deemed to be displaying early symptoms must be given mandatory counseling; if he/she does not show improvement, he/she must be assigned to different duties away from the streets until it improves. Alternatively, or to avoid this, duties could be rotated on and off the street to prevent traumatic stress from developing in the first place.

There's some ideas. Feel free to add your own.
2013-12-11 11:36:24 PM  
1 vote:

hardinparamedic: ausfahrk: Sure we do...

And nothing of value was lost.

[imakeprojects.com image 326x435]


Actually quite a bit of value was lost. Log cabins don't grow on trees you know!

Also, the last possible shreds of LAPD's credibility. They are now known nationwide as the morons who can't tell a large black man from two older latin women and can't get one in the ten ring to save their own worthless lives. It would have better for all involved if they'd have had some balls to issue instead of sidearms.

Stonewall Jackson used to stand unmoving in the line of fire because that's what a man does, and no enemy struck him down. Meanwhile his own craven troops mistook him for a bad guy and shot him. Then the South Lost! Moral of the story? ALWAYS double check your target.
2013-12-11 11:31:35 PM  
1 vote:
The reason America has so many pussies is because corporal punishment has become a no-no. I would take a beating over jail time if it were ever offered, and it would have a more deterrent effect on behavior. You can normalize any environment, even jail, you never get used to getting your ass kicked and you always remember why it happened.
2013-12-11 11:26:56 PM  
1 vote:

SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.


This is the equivalent of a Fox News viewer saying wtf has happened to the poor people in the country because all they hear on Fox news is how they are welfare leeches who sit at home collecting checks playing xbox all day. Fox  News have a biased narrative and will only show you what they want their audience to see, just like how Fark have a biased narrative by greenlighting certain links in order to draw traffic. There is a reason why you will never see a story of a cop acting in heroism on this site, just like you will never hear a story of a welfare single mom working 2 jobs for minimum wage while her son sits unsupervised at home on Fox news.
2013-12-11 10:53:00 PM  
1 vote:

DrPainMD: You know how even consensual sex between a prisoner and a guard is legally considered rape on the part of the guard? Well, every cop who commits unnecessary violence should be considered guilty of first degree murder and a mandatory death sentence applied.


Spot on. Talk to any cop and they'll have plenty of stories like this. Spitting drunks and they end up cracking them. When police don't abide by the rules that they enforce, the laws are illegitimate.
2013-12-11 10:43:19 PM  
1 vote:
Suckmaster Burstingfoam:

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.


Yeah, I agree. Someone should definitely do a story on that guy.
2013-12-11 10:40:26 PM  
1 vote:

ZeroCorpse: dahmers love zombie: Once again, the 95% of cops who are dirty go screwing it up for the 5% who are clean. You'd think someone would come up with some way of fixing this.

How about NOT hiring former jocks and high school bullies into the police department? That's a start.

Also, how about requiring EVERY officer to take a series of psych tests and aggression tests AT RANDOM every other months?

And on top of that, how about a second agency of cops who don't police civilians, but police the civilian police? The cop-cops, if you will. Their ONLY job would be to patrol towns and watch the cops. They would sometimes be assigned to follow the cops EVERYWHERE, and the cops wouldn't be able to do jack-shiat about it. The cop-cops wouldn't have the power to arrest non-police civilians; Only civilian cops would be in their jurisdiction, though they could certainly call the civilian cops and monitor their response time if they witnessed a crime, and they could act if there was an emergency in their presence and no civilian cops were around to help.

The cop-cops would answer to a civilian board of community-elected officials. The cop-cops would wear monitoring devices to monitor THEIR actions and the actions of the cops they police. If their monitoring devices are ever shut off or blocked, the civilian board is instructed to assume that a crime was committed in the absence of video/audio evidence to the contrary, and the cop-cop would be disciplined.

The civilian board would have term limits of 2 years, and could not be re-elected to the board if they ever served on a civilian board overseeing cop-cops in the past, in any county in the USA. The board seats would be open to any civilian aged 18 or older, as long as said civilian does not have a police officer in their immediate family (parents, siblings, step-parents, step-siblings, half-siblings, siblings-in-law, etc.) or have themselves never been in law enforcements in any capacity (cop, security guard, lawyer, judge, etc ...


License police in the same way as we do Doctors, Paramedics, and Contractors.

Appoint a state-level board with no connections to law enforcement to perform police oversight and control those licenses. And require that licensure to work as a police officer.
2013-12-11 10:37:08 PM  
1 vote:

ausfahrk: Sure we do...


And nothing of value was lost.

imakeprojects.com
2013-12-11 10:16:36 PM  
1 vote:
pigs
2013-12-11 10:14:40 PM  
1 vote:

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


You're wrong.  Sometimes there are news stories about cops who do something exceptional by saving people or solving crimes.  Most of the cops I've dealt with in my life seem like good reasonable people and even if they wrote me a speeding ticket, I'm not bitter about it because I was speeding and they're just doing their job.

But the thing is these people are put in a position of authority to enforce the law and when they break it themselves, that's a travesty.This cop slammed this guy's head up against the wall so hard he needed stitches.  This really doesn't appear to be an isolated case either and while not all cops beat suspects for no good reason too many others turn a blind eye to their co-workers who do.

So there's a reason we don't hear about all the cops in your examples.  It's because it shouldn't be news and it's not.  Are you seriously saying it should be news when a cop doesn't shoot a poodle while responding to a domestic violence call?
2013-12-11 10:02:15 PM  
1 vote:

namegoeshere: The few, rare bad apples, and all the others who lie and cover up for them.



There are two kinds of cops, ones who lie, and ones who swear to it.
2013-12-11 09:52:08 PM  
1 vote:

Dragonflew: Opposing Views sourcing the Daily Mail?  Yeah, sounds legit.


Alternative link for those of us who refuse to click on Opposing Views:

http://www.ocala.com/article/20131210/ARTICLES/131219956/1402/NEWS?T it le=Corrections-officer-arrested-over-mishandling-of-inmate

I think that's the same story anyway.

The dude was obviously drunk and it does appear that he spit, but he didn't direct his spit at the officers

FTA: A corrections officer said Lay told her he was upset and said something to the effect of he needed to let off some aggression, according to the report.

Uh, if you have a need to "let off some aggression", you shouldn't be working as a cop.  I've had bad days at work too, but it ever involved violence.  Fark this cop.  Put him a prison cell for 5 years or so.
2013-12-11 09:44:28 PM  
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Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?
2013-12-11 09:40:28 PM  
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You know how even consensual sex between a prisoner and a guard is legally considered rape on the part of the guard? Well, every cop who commits unnecessary violence should be considered guilty of first degree murder and a mandatory death sentence applied.
2013-12-11 09:37:53 PM  
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Sorry, got too distracted by the pic below the article to worry about police brutality:

www.opposingviews.com
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-12-11 08:36:23 PM  
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Benevolent Misanthrope

While I can't speak for Fark on this subject, I can suggest four reasons other than bribery that could lead admins to pick OV and DM over more reputable or original news sources.

1. Submitters prefer them.

2. They are known to be free of malware.

3. They don't require registration, pop up surveys, or otherwise interfere with access to content.  (Like, for example, NYT and WSJ.)

4. Complaints generate thread thread page loads generate ad impressions.
2013-12-11 08:33:38 PM  
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Benevolent Misanthrope: scottydoesntknow: Original link that's not OV or Daily Fail

WTF - are OV and Fail sponsors or something?


Ehh I think they are both good for weird or upsetting news sources, but that's it. They're both a goldmine for Fark headlines because they're basically news aggregators with shiatty, obviously biased journalists. Add on the borderline-NSFW ads/links they have (I farking hate that "Does this peach look like a vagina? Then you're a perv!" popup on OV) and they can go fark themselves. We need to click the source (because there's ALWAYS a source) and submit that. Hell, maybe run a test and see if a headline from OV or Fail gets preferential treatment over the same headline from random sources.
2013-12-11 08:15:21 PM  
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Ohh yea and fark those guys
2013-12-11 07:54:47 PM  
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ZAZ: As a condition of early release, drunks, street criminals, and other lowlifes could have bombs implanted in their skulls. If they complete probation, the bomb comes out. If they get into trouble and their head impacts a wall too hard, they and the wall-slammer both vaporize. This solves two problems.

/not a lawyer


You sound more like a shadowrunner.
 
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