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(Opposing Views)   Cop hears a man clear his throat, decides to a.) ignore it, b.) check to see if he's OK, or c.) slam his head into the wall?   (opposingviews.com) divider line 196
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-12-11 07:49:29 PM
As a condition of early release, drunks, street criminals, and other lowlifes could have bombs implanted in their skulls. If they complete probation, the bomb comes out. If they get into trouble and their head impacts a wall too hard, they and the wall-slammer both vaporize. This solves two problems.

/not a lawyer
 
2013-12-11 07:54:47 PM

ZAZ: As a condition of early release, drunks, street criminals, and other lowlifes could have bombs implanted in their skulls. If they complete probation, the bomb comes out. If they get into trouble and their head impacts a wall too hard, they and the wall-slammer both vaporize. This solves two problems.

/not a lawyer


You sound more like a shadowrunner.
 
2013-12-11 07:55:02 PM

ZAZ: As a condition of early release, drunks, street criminals, and other lowlifes could have bombs implanted in their skulls. If they complete probation, the bomb comes out. If they get into trouble and their head impacts a wall too hard, they and the wall-slammer both vaporize. This solves two problems.

/not a lawyer


sign me up for your newsletter.
 
2013-12-11 07:58:44 PM
Oh man, that teaser pic at the bottom leads to a seriously messed up gallery.
 
2013-12-11 07:59:57 PM

Triumph: Oh man, that teaser pic at the bottom leads to a seriously messed up gallery.


Though you gotta admit, the kneeling Mom was pretty tasty.
 
2013-12-11 08:03:54 PM
The video looked like it went like this

Drunk person is drunk, saying "this man is a gentleman", in a way a drunk person might think is being friendly
coont of an officer apparently misunderstands and argues "he's just doing his job"
Drunk person is drunk and tries repeating it in hope it makes sense
coont of an officer is a coont, and so is his officer friends.

I honestly can't tell what happens next, he doesn't clear his throat, he makes like he might be blowing something out of his mouth, but it's definitely not spitting, but it's enough that I would expect a coont of a police officer to overreact.

coont of a police officer overreacts
His coont friends join in to overreact

Some elderly woman comes along to check out his head injury, while they all lie about how he spat.

They're all coonts, except the drunk guy, and the elderly woman.

I wouldn't say that to their face, of course, because I've already served my time in hospital after coming off the wrong end of a police officer's coontishness. I have no inclination to do it again, and I know all police officers aren't coonts, but those 3 in the video are clearly a bag of coonts each.

/drunk
 
2013-12-11 08:14:25 PM
 
2013-12-11 08:15:21 PM
Ohh yea and fark those guys
 
2013-12-11 08:20:08 PM
Did you guys not see the best part?

 He has been placed on unpaid leave while the criminal case goes forward.

This is a trend that needs to continue
 
2013-12-11 08:24:22 PM

scottydoesntknow: Original link that's not OV or Daily Fail


WTF - are OV and Fail sponsors or something?
 
2013-12-11 08:33:38 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: scottydoesntknow: Original link that's not OV or Daily Fail

WTF - are OV and Fail sponsors or something?


Ehh I think they are both good for weird or upsetting news sources, but that's it. They're both a goldmine for Fark headlines because they're basically news aggregators with shiatty, obviously biased journalists. Add on the borderline-NSFW ads/links they have (I farking hate that "Does this peach look like a vagina? Then you're a perv!" popup on OV) and they can go fark themselves. We need to click the source (because there's ALWAYS a source) and submit that. Hell, maybe run a test and see if a headline from OV or Fail gets preferential treatment over the same headline from random sources.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-12-11 08:36:23 PM
Benevolent Misanthrope

While I can't speak for Fark on this subject, I can suggest four reasons other than bribery that could lead admins to pick OV and DM over more reputable or original news sources.

1. Submitters prefer them.

2. They are known to be free of malware.

3. They don't require registration, pop up surveys, or otherwise interfere with access to content.  (Like, for example, NYT and WSJ.)

4. Complaints generate thread thread page loads generate ad impressions.
 
2013-12-11 08:59:29 PM
On the scale of how bad it could've been 4/10 there are much worse videos out there.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-11 09:01:10 PM
 
2013-12-11 09:33:44 PM
Opposing Views sourcing the Daily Mail?  Yeah, sounds legit.
 
2013-12-11 09:37:16 PM

RedPhoenix122: ZAZ: As a condition of early release, drunks, street criminals, and other lowlifes could have bombs implanted in their skulls. If they complete probation, the bomb comes out. If they get into trouble and their head impacts a wall too hard, they and the wall-slammer both vaporize. This solves two problems.

/not a lawyer

You sound more like a shadowrunner.


Looks like you've got a  cortex bombattached to your head computer. I... think it started ticking. I don't think there's anything else I can do for you. Try two aspirin.
 
2013-12-11 09:37:53 PM
Sorry, got too distracted by the pic below the article to worry about police brutality:

www.opposingviews.com
 
2013-12-11 09:39:42 PM

ArkAngel: Did you guys not see the best part?

 He has been placed on unpaid leave while the criminal case goes forward.

This is a trend that needs to continue


This. Getting a paid vacation for beating the shiat out of someone is not a deterrent.
 
2013-12-11 09:39:46 PM

kling_klang_bed: Sorry, got too distracted by the pic below the article to worry about police brutality:

[www.opposingviews.com image 500x335]


assets.nydailynews.com
 
2013-12-11 09:40:28 PM
You know how even consensual sex between a prisoner and a guard is legally considered rape on the part of the guard? Well, every cop who commits unnecessary violence should be considered guilty of first degree murder and a mandatory death sentence applied.
 
2013-12-11 09:40:52 PM

kling_klang_bed: Sorry, got too distracted by the pic below the article to worry about police brutality:

[www.opposingviews.com image 500x335]


Why don't you have a seat ove... OH, you mean the one on the left...
 
2013-12-11 09:42:11 PM
...shoot 4 or 5 bystanders and someone's pet dog?
 
2013-12-11 09:42:31 PM

ZAZ: As a condition of early release, drunks, street criminals, and other lowlifes could have bombs implanted in their skulls. If they complete probation, the bomb comes out. If they get into trouble and their head impacts a wall too hard, they and the wall-slammer both vaporize. This solves two problems.

/not a lawyer


Glen Runciter, is that you?
 
2013-12-11 09:43:05 PM

DrPainMD: You know how even consensual sex between a prisoner and a guard is legally considered rape on the part of the guard? Well, every cop who commits unnecessary violence should be considered guilty of first degree murder and a mandatory death sentence applied.


Even if the victim doesn't die? Wow, you ARE into pain.
 
2013-12-11 09:44:28 PM
Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?
 
2013-12-11 09:48:35 PM
man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.
 
2013-12-11 09:49:21 PM
Obama-loving throat-clearer.
 
2013-12-11 09:52:08 PM

Dragonflew: Opposing Views sourcing the Daily Mail?  Yeah, sounds legit.


Alternative link for those of us who refuse to click on Opposing Views:

http://www.ocala.com/article/20131210/ARTICLES/131219956/1402/NEWS?T it le=Corrections-officer-arrested-over-mishandling-of-inmate

I think that's the same story anyway.

The dude was obviously drunk and it does appear that he spit, but he didn't direct his spit at the officers

FTA: A corrections officer said Lay told her he was upset and said something to the effect of he needed to let off some aggression, according to the report.

Uh, if you have a need to "let off some aggression", you shouldn't be working as a cop.  I've had bad days at work too, but it ever involved violence.  Fark this cop.  Put him a prison cell for 5 years or so.
 
2013-12-11 09:52:57 PM

scottydoesntknow: Original link that's not OV or Daily Fail

FTL: The report also said each of the officers interviewed alleged Duckworth was combative, and either threw something at the officer or initiated the assault, but that video showed exactly what happened. Not once does the report call Duckworth combative.


This is the worst of it. Not that there was one asshole cop.  It's that every other cop who was present lied for him. So the cops who themselves might never have slammed someone's head into the wall for no reason except a dick-compensation power trip have no problem at all lying and covering up for the asshole who does.
 
2013-12-11 09:54:26 PM

ZAZ: As a condition of early release, drunks, street criminals, and other lowlifes could have bombs implanted in their skulls. If they complete probation, the bomb comes out. If they get into trouble and their head impacts a wall too hard, they and the wall-slammer both vaporize. This solves two problems.

/not a lawyer


Is anyone else affected by this? Is a wall always going to be available?
 
2013-12-11 09:55:11 PM

SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.


Don't get me started.
 
2013-12-11 09:56:47 PM

SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet


WTF?  I didn't see that article.  I'm not sure I want to.
 
2013-12-11 09:57:30 PM

SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.


Wait until they are fully kitted up in MRAPS and SEAL Team 6 hand me downs.


It's Obamas domestic army for peace.
 
2013-12-11 09:58:13 PM
I can't be the only one who wants to know how Slaxl ended up in the hospital because of police.
 
2013-12-11 09:58:13 PM
They're charging him with misdemeanor battery. For smashing a restrained (and completely unable to defend himself) man's head into a cement wall hard enough to knock him out and leave blood trails on the wall.
 
2013-12-11 09:58:37 PM

TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?


You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about
 
2013-12-11 10:00:49 PM
The few, rare bad apples, and all the others who lie and cover up for them.
 
2013-12-11 10:00:54 PM

scottydoesntknow: Benevolent Misanthrope: scottydoesntknow: Original link that's not OV or Daily Fail

WTF - are OV and Fail sponsors or something?

Ehh I think they are both good for weird or upsetting news sources, but that's it. They're both a goldmine for Fark headlines because they're basically news aggregators with shiatty, obviously biased journalists. Add on the borderline-NSFW ads/links they have (I farking hate that "Does this peach look like a vagina? Then you're a perv!" popup on OV) and they can go fark themselves. We need to click the source (because there's ALWAYS a source) and submit that. Hell, maybe run a test and see if a headline from OV or Fail gets preferential treatment over the same headline from random sources.


I would actually be interested in performing this experiment. We could post the identical headline from a Fark® approved source and the actual source, and see which gets greenlit. I'll trust you to be the better headline writer.
 
2013-12-11 10:02:00 PM
Once again, the 95% of cops who are dirty go screwing it up for the 5% who are clean.  You'd think someone would come up with some way of fixing this.  The camera in the holding cell is a good start.  But we can go further:
1: Helmet/lapel cams for 100 percent of uniformed officers, on with HD video and stereo sound 100% of the time.  Footage to be streamed live to a third-party data company in charge with the safety of the data.  Change the criminal procedure to state that any arrest for which there can be found no cam footage of the arrest is not only immediately to be nullified by the first judge to see the case, but any/all officers with "missing" footage of the arrest are immediately put on unpaid leave until the technical issue is figured out.
2: all police departments of over 50 officers must have an ombudsman on call 24/7 who MUST BE CALLED upon request by any civillian contacted by the officers.  Now, if they abuse the privilege, we can write a criminal penalty into "intentional overuse of the ombudsman".  But everyone out there should have a number they can call at any time to get someone on their side looking at the crime  scene and evidence.
3: all police departments of under 50 officers must work with other local, small PDs to obtain the same ombudsman coverage as stated above.
4: Any police officer found to be hiding, destroying, or otherwise not preserving potentially exculpatory evidence shall be charged with Violation of Civilian Constitutional Rights, with a penalty exactly the same as the crime that the civilian was/was to be charged with.
5: Any police officer found to be escalating use of force outside of a clear need to do so will be charged with Battery on a Civillian by a Peace Officer, which will be a Felony of the same type as that state's statute for Battery on an LEO.
6: Any police officer found to be using force upon a restrained arrestee shall be charged with Aggravated Assault upon a Helpless Civillian, with a penalty identical to that of the state's statute for Aggravated Assault upon a LEO
7: Any police officer using an electrical device such as a Taser for the sole purpose of obtaining compliance shall lose their right to carry such weapon.  Any LEO deploying an electrical weapon solely due to the "attitude" of the subject shall be charged with Simple Batttery on a Civilian, punished exactly as that state's statutes punish battery upon a LEO.  They will also permanently lose their right to carry an electrical weapon.

That would work as a start, I think.
 
2013-12-11 10:02:15 PM

namegoeshere: The few, rare bad apples, and all the others who lie and cover up for them.



There are two kinds of cops, ones who lie, and ones who swear to it.
 
2013-12-11 10:04:56 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.


Sure you do: http://www.google.com/#q=officer+honored&tbm=nws

But then you have over 4 times as many results searching this: https://www.google.com/#q=officer+charged&tbm=nws

You don't get a news story for doing your job. You do get a news story for doing an exceptional job and doing a horrible job. Exceptional jobs are far outnumbered right now.
 
2013-12-11 10:10:06 PM

namegoeshere: They're charging him with misdemeanor battery. For smashing a restrained (and completely unable to defend himself) man's head into a cement wall hard enough to knock him out and leave blood trails on the wall.


If a citizen has assaulted a cop the same way you can bet your ass the DA would be throwing felony charges at the citizen. I'm surprised the drunk guy wasn't charged with spreading possible harmful body fluids around (the blood on the wall).And it's sad that only one cop may take the fall for this, when all three cops filed false reports. Obviously they have an impairment to perform their jobs properly and should serve long unpaid suspensions. Would be better if they were just terminated for cause.
 
2013-12-11 10:12:08 PM

kling_klang_bed: Sorry, got too distracted by the pic below the article to worry about police brutality:

[www.opposingviews.com image 500x335]


BY which one?
 
2013-12-11 10:12:27 PM
Reason 8,055,924 why I can watch dashcams video of cops becoming DRT and laugh and laugh and laugh.
 
2013-12-11 10:13:56 PM
Maybe all civil rights/civil lawsuits should be paid out of the pension fund.

The taxpayer is going to have to pick up the tab for cops like this....why not let he taxpayer pick up the tab in creative ways that hurts the cops and serves as a deterrent to other cops.
 
2013-12-11 10:14:21 PM

gfid: Dragonflew: Opposing Views sourcing the Daily Mail?  Yeah, sounds legit.

Alternative link for those of us who refuse to click on Opposing Views:

http://www.ocala.com/article/20131210/ARTICLES/131219956/1402/NEWS?T it le=Corrections-officer-arrested-over-mishandling-of-inmate

I think that's the same story anyway.

The dude was obviously drunk and it does appear that he spit, but he didn't direct his spit at the officers

FTA: A corrections officer said Lay told her he was upset and said something to the effect of he needed to let off some aggression, according to the report.

Uh, if you have a need to "let off some aggression", you shouldn't be working as a cop.  I've had bad days at work too, but it ever involved violence.  Fark this cop.  Put him a prison cell in general population for 5 years or so.


FTFY
 
2013-12-11 10:14:40 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


You're wrong.  Sometimes there are news stories about cops who do something exceptional by saving people or solving crimes.  Most of the cops I've dealt with in my life seem like good reasonable people and even if they wrote me a speeding ticket, I'm not bitter about it because I was speeding and they're just doing their job.

But the thing is these people are put in a position of authority to enforce the law and when they break it themselves, that's a travesty.This cop slammed this guy's head up against the wall so hard he needed stitches.  This really doesn't appear to be an isolated case either and while not all cops beat suspects for no good reason too many others turn a blind eye to their co-workers who do.

So there's a reason we don't hear about all the cops in your examples.  It's because it shouldn't be news and it's not.  Are you seriously saying it should be news when a cop doesn't shoot a poodle while responding to a domestic violence call?
 
2013-12-11 10:15:00 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


It doesn't seem so rare.

How would you suggest taking power away from the assholes?
 
2013-12-11 10:15:12 PM

kling_klang_bed: Sorry, got too distracted by the pic below the article to worry about police brutality:

[www.opposingviews.com image 500x335]


Someone really needs to lift up that girl's skirt. You can't see a goddamn thing.
 
2013-12-11 10:15:36 PM

SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.


Nothing has happened. There are just cameras everywhere now. Imagine how brutal it must have been before they actually had to watch what they did.

Something like this I'd guess
 
2013-12-11 10:16:36 PM
pigs
 
2013-12-11 10:19:06 PM

namegoeshere: The few, rare bad apples, and all the others who lie and cover up for them.


If you're going to use the phrase, use the WHOLE phrase:  One bad apple will spoil the whole barrel.

What this means is that if you allow a single rotten apple in your apple barrel, that rot will quickly spread to the remaining apples, and so it's important to remove it immediately.  If you have one bad cop, you're eventually going to have a whole police force full of bad cops UNLESS YOU REMOVE THE BAD COP IMMEDIATELY.
 
2013-12-11 10:22:19 PM

kling_klang_bed: Sorry, got too distracted by the pic below the article to worry about police brutality:

[www.opposingviews.com image 500x335]


You sick fark. She's five.
 
2013-12-11 10:22:38 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


That's because people shouldn't expect a pat on the back for doing the minimum necessary to do their job. If the only think keeping a cop from shooting a half a dozen bystanders is a newspaper article congratulating him, then he shouldn't be a cop.
 
2013-12-11 10:22:58 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: namegoeshere: The few, rare bad apples, and all the others who lie and cover up for them.

If you're going to use the phrase, use the WHOLE phrase:  One bad apple will spoil the whole barrel.

What this means is that if you allow a single rotten apple in your apple barrel, that rot will quickly spread to the remaining apples, and so it's important to remove it immediately.  If you have one bad cop, you're eventually going to have a whole police force full of bad cops UNLESS YOU REMOVE THE BAD COP IMMEDIATELY.


THIN BLUE LINE.

Riddle me this: why do frantic "union buster" conservatives always exclude police unions?
 
2013-12-11 10:24:38 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


Not sure if trolling
 
2013-12-11 10:25:03 PM

Prophet of Loss: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: namegoeshere: The few, rare bad apples, and all the others who lie and cover up for them.

If you're going to use the phrase, use the WHOLE phrase:  One bad apple will spoil the whole barrel.

What this means is that if you allow a single rotten apple in your apple barrel, that rot will quickly spread to the remaining apples, and so it's important to remove it immediately.  If you have one bad cop, you're eventually going to have a whole police force full of bad cops UNLESS YOU REMOVE THE BAD COP IMMEDIATELY.

THIN BLUE LINE.

Riddle me this: why do frantic "union buster" conservatives always exclude police unions?


When does anything that applies to little people also apply to cops?
 
2013-12-11 10:26:23 PM
Meh.  Cops being cops.  Nothing new here.
 
2013-12-11 10:30:39 PM

Prophet of Loss: Riddle me this: why do frantic "union buster" conservatives always exclude police unions?


The answer is a little simpler than you seem to think. It's because the consolidated unions backing Fire and Police unions in the United States hold MASSIVE political sway, and can manipulate public opinion and voter ire pretty easily.
 
2013-12-11 10:33:40 PM
Suckmaster was being facetious.  Why do I feel like nobody got that?
 
2013-12-11 10:35:18 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


Sure we do...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-11 10:35:21 PM
i1.cpcache.com
 
2013-12-11 10:36:52 PM

abhorrent1: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about

Not sure if trolling


Successfully trolled.
 
2013-12-11 10:37:08 PM

ausfahrk: Sure we do...


And nothing of value was lost.

imakeprojects.com
 
2013-12-11 10:37:17 PM

abhorrent1: kling_klang_bed: Sorry, got too distracted by the pic below the article to worry about police brutality:

[www.opposingviews.com image 500x335]

BY which one?


The one in the thong.
 
2013-12-11 10:37:41 PM
You know, he COULD have been spitting, but Im pretty farking sure that even in florida, spitting at a policeman is not sufficient cause to hit someones head against a tile wall hard enough to leave blood smears.

I mean it might be cause for a charge, or for restraint or even a mask or something, but potentially fatal head injuries are not a recognised method of ensuring compliance anywhere.
 
2013-12-11 10:38:33 PM

dahmers love zombie: Once again, the 95% of cops who are dirty go screwing it up for the 5% who are clean. You'd think someone would come up with some way of fixing this.


How about NOT hiring former jocks and high school bullies into the police department? That's a start.

Also, how about requiring EVERY officer to take a series of psych tests and aggression tests AT RANDOM every other months?

And on top of that, how about a second agency of cops who don't police civilians, but police the civilian police? The cop-cops, if you will. Their ONLY job would be to patrol towns and watch the cops. They would sometimes be assigned to follow the cops EVERYWHERE, and the cops wouldn't be able to do jack-shiat about it. The cop-cops wouldn't have the power to arrest non-police civilians; Only civilian cops would be in their jurisdiction, though they could certainly call the civilian cops and monitor their response time if they witnessed a crime, and they could act if there was an emergency in their presence and no civilian cops were around to help.

The cop-cops would answer to a civilian board of community-elected officials. The cop-cops would wear monitoring devices to monitor THEIR actions and the actions of the cops they police. If their monitoring devices are ever shut off or blocked, the civilian board is instructed to assume that a crime was committed in the absence of video/audio evidence to the contrary, and the cop-cop would be disciplined.

The civilian board would have term limits of 2 years, and could not be re-elected to the board if they ever served on a civilian board overseeing cop-cops in the past, in any county in the USA. The board seats would be open to any civilian aged 18 or older, as long as said civilian does not have a police officer in their immediate family (parents, siblings, step-parents, step-siblings, half-siblings, siblings-in-law, etc.) or have themselves never been in law enforcements in any capacity (cop, security guard, lawyer, judge, etc.)

The cop-cops would have the authority to arrest any police officer on the spot. The monitoring devices would provide evidence admissible in any court of law. The testimony of the cop-cops would be considered more valuable than the testimony of cops (much like a cop's testimony is considered more valid than a civilian's in our current system).

If the regular justice system lets us down (judges and district attorneys letting cops go, for example) then we'd switch to a tribunal system designed especially to mete out justice to police officers. The tribunal would also be an elected committee, and NOBODY with previous law enforcement would be allowed on this committee. The hearings would be jury trials, and the cops and county would have to rely on public defenders to argue the cases. No DA, no high-priced lawyers, no union lawyers. Everyone gets a fair shake and the same level of representation in court.

And if this doesn't work, then we just arm all civilians with ferrets, take crazy pills, and burn it all down.
 
2013-12-11 10:38:34 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: abhorrent1: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about

Not sure if trolling

Successfully trolled.


26.media.tumblr.com

/First one to bite
 
2013-12-11 10:39:59 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: abhorrent1: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about

Not sure if trolling

Successfully trolled.


Dammitsomuch.
 
2013-12-11 10:40:22 PM

kling_klang_bed: Sorry, got too distracted by the pic below the article to worry about police brutality:


That sure is a purty skirt.
 
2013-12-11 10:40:26 PM

ZeroCorpse: dahmers love zombie: Once again, the 95% of cops who are dirty go screwing it up for the 5% who are clean. You'd think someone would come up with some way of fixing this.

How about NOT hiring former jocks and high school bullies into the police department? That's a start.

Also, how about requiring EVERY officer to take a series of psych tests and aggression tests AT RANDOM every other months?

And on top of that, how about a second agency of cops who don't police civilians, but police the civilian police? The cop-cops, if you will. Their ONLY job would be to patrol towns and watch the cops. They would sometimes be assigned to follow the cops EVERYWHERE, and the cops wouldn't be able to do jack-shiat about it. The cop-cops wouldn't have the power to arrest non-police civilians; Only civilian cops would be in their jurisdiction, though they could certainly call the civilian cops and monitor their response time if they witnessed a crime, and they could act if there was an emergency in their presence and no civilian cops were around to help.

The cop-cops would answer to a civilian board of community-elected officials. The cop-cops would wear monitoring devices to monitor THEIR actions and the actions of the cops they police. If their monitoring devices are ever shut off or blocked, the civilian board is instructed to assume that a crime was committed in the absence of video/audio evidence to the contrary, and the cop-cop would be disciplined.

The civilian board would have term limits of 2 years, and could not be re-elected to the board if they ever served on a civilian board overseeing cop-cops in the past, in any county in the USA. The board seats would be open to any civilian aged 18 or older, as long as said civilian does not have a police officer in their immediate family (parents, siblings, step-parents, step-siblings, half-siblings, siblings-in-law, etc.) or have themselves never been in law enforcements in any capacity (cop, security guard, lawyer, judge, etc ...


License police in the same way as we do Doctors, Paramedics, and Contractors.

Appoint a state-level board with no connections to law enforcement to perform police oversight and control those licenses. And require that licensure to work as a police officer.
 
2013-12-11 10:41:00 PM

kling_klang_bed: Sorry, got too distracted by the pic below the article to worry about police brutality:

[www.opposingviews.com image 500x335]


Pedo.
 
2013-12-11 10:41:05 PM

scottydoesntknow: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: abhorrent1: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about

Not sure if trolling

Successfully trolled.

[26.media.tumblr.com image 500x222]

/First one to bite


Not sure I'd call that a successful troll but okay. You could just be stupid but it seems to make you feel good so whatever.
 
2013-12-11 10:42:03 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


There are enough few rare bad apples that multiple websites exist to cover their hijinx exclusively, and they have new content every day. Go feed your troll baby.
 
2013-12-11 10:42:30 PM
Cops are criminals hiding behind a badge
 
2013-12-11 10:42:51 PM

sendtodave: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: abhorrent1: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about

Not sure if trolling

Successfully trolled.

Dammitsomuch.


If it's any consolation I'm still not good enough at it for the Politics tab.
 
2013-12-11 10:43:04 PM
dl.dropboxusercontent.com
 
2013-12-11 10:43:19 PM
Suckmaster Burstingfoam:

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.


Yeah, I agree. Someone should definitely do a story on that guy.
 
2013-12-11 10:43:57 PM
I watched the video just a couple of times, and it's pretty obvious to me that he:
(1) averted his gaze away and down from Big Pig
(2) he blew a little raspberry, just like my 9-month-old does when he's frustrated after finishing a meal


Then Big Pig unleashed the  HAY!!!1!!1!!  you don't SPIT at OSSIFERS!!!1!!!one!!!
 
2013-12-11 10:44:02 PM

Giltric: Maybe all civil rights/civil lawsuits should be paid out of the pension fund.

The taxpayer is going to have to pick up the tab for cops like this....why not let he taxpayer pick up the tab in creative ways that hurts the cops and serves as a deterrent to other cops.


My solution has always been to require cops to obtain private insurance for such incidents.  Eventually the bad cops will be uninsurable and therefore unemployable as a sworn officer.
 
2013-12-11 10:45:24 PM
Is this the guy?
 
2013-12-11 10:48:11 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Is this the guy?



I wonder what kind of pictures might be found on his computer.
 
2013-12-11 10:48:47 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Is this the guy?


I have a feeling that this post won't be around for very long.
 
2013-12-11 10:48:59 PM

LaughingRadish: Giltric: Maybe all civil rights/civil lawsuits should be paid out of the pension fund.

The taxpayer is going to have to pick up the tab for cops like this....why not let he taxpayer pick up the tab in creative ways that hurts the cops and serves as a deterrent to other cops.

My solution has always been to require cops to obtain private insurance for such incidents.  Eventually the bad cops will be uninsurable and therefore unemployable as a sworn officer.



SARGE:  "For god's sake, Mahoney, why didn't you shoot!?!?"

MAHONEY:  "I...I couldn't risk it, Sarge.  I've only got two points left before they blacklist me, and Molly just told me she's pregnant.  Tell...tell Molly I love her.  Aaack, thud."
 
2013-12-11 10:51:02 PM

ausfahrk: LaughingRadish: Giltric: Maybe all civil rights/civil lawsuits should be paid out of the pension fund.

The taxpayer is going to have to pick up the tab for cops like this....why not let he taxpayer pick up the tab in creative ways that hurts the cops and serves as a deterrent to other cops.

My solution has always been to require cops to obtain private insurance for such incidents.  Eventually the bad cops will be uninsurable and therefore unemployable as a sworn officer.


SARGE:  "For god's sake, Mahoney, why didn't you shoot!?!?"

MAHONEY:  "I...I couldn't risk it, Sarge.  I've only got two points left before they blacklist me, and Molly just told me she's pregnant.  Tell...tell Molly I love her.  Aaack, thud."


Mahoney was a God damned hero cop.

Well, except for all the horrible things he did over the course of his career.

But in the end? He was a god damned hero cop!
 
2013-12-11 10:52:12 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: On the scale of how bad it could've been 4/10 there are much worse videos out there.

[i.imgur.com image 263x167]


Love the other officer's reaction. "Why, don't do that. Come on..."
 
2013-12-11 10:52:44 PM

gfid:   Put him a prison cell for 5 years or so.


FOOTFA: "Broaderick was arrested and spent 13 minutes behind bars at the jail."

/missed the bone by |  | that much.....
 
2013-12-11 10:53:00 PM

DrPainMD: You know how even consensual sex between a prisoner and a guard is legally considered rape on the part of the guard? Well, every cop who commits unnecessary violence should be considered guilty of first degree murder and a mandatory death sentence applied.


Spot on. Talk to any cop and they'll have plenty of stories like this. Spitting drunks and they end up cracking them. When police don't abide by the rules that they enforce, the laws are illegitimate.
 
2013-12-11 10:53:26 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.


Well, in this case, there was clearly one bad apple, and two other apples. Who subsequently lied about the bad apple in official statements. So, you're 0/3 for good apples.
 
2013-12-11 10:54:00 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


Well that's just not true.   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/30/chris-burbank-salt-lake-city _ n_4170154.html  There are stories out there of great cops doing great work, making departments better, police more effective, and communities more safe. Sadly, police abuse cases outnumber those great stories though... I can't really fault the cops too much though, if I was in a job like that, I'd hate pretty much everyone after a while too.
 
2013-12-11 10:56:37 PM
Let the cop sniping begin.
 
2013-12-11 10:57:58 PM
He did not 'clear his thought'.  There's no need to twist this beyond the facts.  He made a spitting noise, but in the end it doesn't matter whether he spit or didn't.  The officer assaulted him and needs to be convicted of assault.
 
2013-12-11 10:58:25 PM

firefly212: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about

Well that's just not true.   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/30/chris-burbank-salt-lake-city _ n_4170154.html  There are stories out there of great cops doing great work, making departments better, police more effective, and communities more safe. Sadly, police abuse cases outnumber those great stories though... I can't really fault the cops too much though, if I was in a job like that, I'd hate pretty much everyone after a while too.


In all seriousness, I've been told that dealing daily with the trash end of humanity does burn them out quickly.

Then again, social workers also have to deal with the same people daily, and yet social workers don't get to commit repeated assaults and have their co-workers lie on their behalf and get administrative leave with pay.
 
2013-12-11 10:58:35 PM
'throat' even.
 
2013-12-11 10:59:13 PM
Good. Now charge the ass hole with 50 counts of attempted manslaughter and give the cop a medal.
 
2013-12-11 11:01:37 PM
The thing that amazes me most is that he actually got charged with anything for bashing the drunks head into a wall. Its exceedingly rare for a cop to get charged for something done while on duty, especially for relatively minor things like this.

This cop deserves a public death in my opinion, but at least it appears they are doing something other than giving him a paid vacation which is a start.

Where I live (sonoma county, ca) they just reinstated the cop who shot a 12yo multiple times in the back. He had 6 weeks of paid vacation as a punishment, with the chief saying that his officer went by the book and did nothing wrong when he shot the 12 year old from behind with no warning. In response to the protests and marches agaisnt the cops and city hall, the cops have brought out the swat gear and tear gas.


I have said it many times before.
PEACEFUL PROTESTS DO NOT WORK. Violence is the only answer. Cops that break the rules need to die. Painfully.
 
2013-12-11 11:01:57 PM

sendtodave: When does anything that applies to little people also apply to cops?


Stop right where you are.  You know the score, pal.  If you're not cop, you're little people.

http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=9lru1Qxc1l8
 
2013-12-11 11:03:09 PM
Suckmaster Burstingfoam

>>> TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to
>>> the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.
You do read about Police going to court to show they have no duty to protect you or your family.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.
You never read about any cops steping in to stop their fellow thugs when they unjustly stomp people's heads in. Correction. There was that one time. They fired her ass

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.
You do read about cops exusing thier fellow thugs when they gun down innocent bystanders (or people nowhere near a crime for that matter)

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.
You do read about cops defending officers threatening an innocent man telling him they will come back beat him and shoot his pets

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.
You never hear about the cops that step in and stop their fellow officers who are shoving wooden dowels up a handcuffed man's ass as he screams, cries and begs them to stop

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.
You never hear about the cops that step in as their fellow cops are beating some chick into a coma or death.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about

Define "few"
www.upl.co
www.upl.co
Several thousand from multiple departments lined the streets with "hero" signs supporting seven murderers.
 
2013-12-11 11:03:15 PM
Remember, boys and girls:

cdn.theatlantic.com

Class warfare.

lh3.ggpht.com

Not class warfare.
 
2013-12-11 11:14:44 PM

puddleonfire: Let the cop sniping begin.


What's stopping you, dude? Be a man. Lead by example.
 
2013-12-11 11:26:49 PM
img707.imageshack.us

He definitely was not spitting at the officers.
 
2013-12-11 11:26:56 PM

SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.


This is the equivalent of a Fox News viewer saying wtf has happened to the poor people in the country because all they hear on Fox news is how they are welfare leeches who sit at home collecting checks playing xbox all day. Fox  News have a biased narrative and will only show you what they want their audience to see, just like how Fark have a biased narrative by greenlighting certain links in order to draw traffic. There is a reason why you will never see a story of a cop acting in heroism on this site, just like you will never hear a story of a welfare single mom working 2 jobs for minimum wage while her son sits unsupervised at home on Fox news.
 
2013-12-11 11:28:45 PM
Sigh. Once more, from the top. Pay attention, Florida.

Dance like no one's watching...
Beat a dude half to death like everyone is.
 
2013-12-11 11:30:00 PM
Due to the increased use of security monitors as well as individual smartphones, prevalence of police brutality being caught on camera has been widespread throughout the past few years.

If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-11 11:31:35 PM
The reason America has so many pussies is because corporal punishment has become a no-no. I would take a beating over jail time if it were ever offered, and it would have a more deterrent effect on behavior. You can normalize any environment, even jail, you never get used to getting your ass kicked and you always remember why it happened.
 
2013-12-11 11:35:16 PM

LaughingRadish: Giltric: Maybe all civil rights/civil lawsuits should be paid out of the pension fund.

The taxpayer is going to have to pick up the tab for cops like this....why not let he taxpayer pick up the tab in creative ways that hurts the cops and serves as a deterrent to other cops.

My solution has always been to require cops to obtain private insurance for such incidents.  Eventually the bad cops will be uninsurable and therefore unemployable as a sworn officer.


I like it. Malpractice insurance for cops.
 
2013-12-11 11:35:43 PM

Dragonflew: Suckmaster Burstingfoam:

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

Yeah, I agree. Someone should definitely do a story on that guy.


www.wotyougot.com

Bravo, Dragonflew!! You win the interwebs!
 
2013-12-11 11:36:24 PM

hardinparamedic: ausfahrk: Sure we do...

And nothing of value was lost.

[imakeprojects.com image 326x435]


Actually quite a bit of value was lost. Log cabins don't grow on trees you know!

Also, the last possible shreds of LAPD's credibility. They are now known nationwide as the morons who can't tell a large black man from two older latin women and can't get one in the ten ring to save their own worthless lives. It would have better for all involved if they'd have had some balls to issue instead of sidearms.

Stonewall Jackson used to stand unmoving in the line of fire because that's what a man does, and no enemy struck him down. Meanwhile his own craven troops mistook him for a bad guy and shot him. Then the South Lost! Moral of the story? ALWAYS double check your target.
 
2013-12-11 11:36:30 PM

Fallout Boy: SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.

This is the equivalent of a Fox News viewer saying wtf has happened to the poor people in the country because all they hear on Fox news is how they are welfare leeches who sit at home collecting checks playing xbox all day. Fox  News have a biased narrative and will only show you what they want their audience to see, just like how Fark have a biased narrative by greenlighting certain links in order to draw traffic. There is a reason why you will never see a story of a cop acting in heroism on this site, just like you will never hear a story of a welfare single mom working 2 jobs for minimum wage while her son sits unsupervised at home on Fox news.


Ok, great, most cops aren't total assholes!

Now, about the ones that are.... Why do all the "good" cops cover for them?

And why, when caught, do the assholes never get harshly penalized?
 
2013-12-11 11:39:32 PM

doglover: Log cabins don't grow on trees you know!


Wait.
 
2013-12-11 11:39:48 PM

sendtodave: Fallout Boy: SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.

This is the equivalent of a Fox News viewer saying wtf has happened to the poor people in the country because all they hear on Fox news is how they are welfare leeches who sit at home collecting checks playing xbox all day. Fox  News have a biased narrative and will only show you what they want their audience to see, just like how Fark have a biased narrative by greenlighting certain links in order to draw traffic. There is a reason why you will never see a story of a cop acting in heroism on this site, just like you will never hear a story of a welfare single mom working 2 jobs for minimum wage while her son sits unsupervised at home on Fox news.

Ok, great, most cops aren't total assholes!

Now, about the ones that are.... Why do all the "good" cops cover for them?

And why, when caught, do the assholes never get harshly penalized?


Are you trying to break your own "assholes" record from last night?  ;>p
 
2013-12-11 11:41:09 PM
lh6.ggpht.com
 
2013-12-11 11:45:07 PM

sendtodave: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about

It doesn't seem so rare.

How would you suggest taking power away from the assholes?


1. Someone above suggested civil suits have to come out of the pension fund. That would be one way. I remember when Rodney King got his settlement, and everyone was cheering F*CK YEAH! SHOW THOSE COPS!! except it didn't: It came out of the city of L.A.'s  account, which meant the taxpayers of the City, which meant everyone cheering F*CK YEAH SHOW THOSE COPS.

2. Hold the D.A.'s office accountable for investigating dirty/abusive cops. They are the ones who have to follow up on citizen's complaints and they are the ones who decide whether or not to charge those cops with crimes. Every time these threads come up and people shriek about bad cops not getting charged, guess what: It's not the cops' job to do anything but put them on leave. It's the District Attorney's. I've yet to see ANYONE hold them to account for not doing THEIR jobs.

3. Stop requiring police to do contradictory work. Nearly everyone expects police to: a) arrest bad guys, b) immediately, c) without error, d) without mercy; and at the same time i) arrest the RIGHT bad guys, ii) without hurting them, iii) without hurting anyone else, iv) without inconveniencing anyone else. One reason police went to Tasers is because of the hue&cry over seeing so many bruises on perps from excessive use of PR-24s. One reason we see SWAT teams armored up like Marines going into Fallujah is because people want barricaded suspects taken out of their hideouts NOW and not after a four-day standoff while they calmly talk him out--and that takes armor and firepower.

4. Disarm the police and put them back on foot; but provide immediate heavy weapons for backup when needed. Just as soldiers in enemy territory can do more to win "hearts and minds" when they can get out among the populace and interact with them, so law enforcement used to work better when beat officers actually knew the neighborhoods and the trouble spots. At the same time, criminals are better armed and meaner now than 50 years ago, so hardcore response is needed and should be available when necessary.

5. Assign one officer per patrol as the "designated shooter". One reason so many shootings seem to be overkill is that officers--like soldiers--are taught to empty their magazines. Police 9mms or Glocks hold 16 rounds, so if four officers are involved and all empty their pistols, that's a whopping 64 rounds that just got fired at the suspect. There should be an alpha, beta and delta designated shooter order, and no reloads unless facing multiple shooters.

6. One officer per patrol should have a head-mounted camera with a 30-second continuous loop, and a direct feed back to the patrol car. In any interaction with suspects, the officer presses a switch and it begins a live feed to the recording unit in the car. This could also be triggered remotely from the dispatch center upon receiving a 97-on scene call, in case of evolving situations.

7. All officers should be screened not less than every six months for signs of PTSD. Any officer deemed to be displaying early symptoms must be given mandatory counseling; if he/she does not show improvement, he/she must be assigned to different duties away from the streets until it improves. Alternatively, or to avoid this, duties could be rotated on and off the street to prevent traumatic stress from developing in the first place.

There's some ideas. Feel free to add your own.
 
2013-12-11 11:46:58 PM

fusillade762: LaughingRadish: Giltric: Maybe all civil rights/civil lawsuits should be paid out of the pension fund.

The taxpayer is going to have to pick up the tab for cops like this....why not let he taxpayer pick up the tab in creative ways that hurts the cops and serves as a deterrent to other cops.

My solution has always been to require cops to obtain private insurance for such incidents.  Eventually the bad cops will be uninsurable and therefore unemployable as a sworn officer.

I like it. Malpractice insurance for cops.


Agreed, the incentive needs to be at a personal level based on acturial tables with the city not responsible for the actions. This needs to start at a state level, so you have a big enough pool. It will end brutality in no time at all.
 
2013-12-11 11:52:39 PM

sendtodave: Fallout Boy: SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.

This is the equivalent of a Fox News viewer saying wtf has happened to the poor people in the country because all they hear on Fox news is how they are welfare leeches who sit at home collecting checks playing xbox all day. Fox  News have a biased narrative and will only show you what they want their audience to see, just like how Fark have a biased narrative by greenlighting certain links in order to draw traffic. There is a reason why you will never see a story of a cop acting in heroism on this site, just like you will never hear a story of a welfare single mom working 2 jobs for minimum wage while her son sits unsupervised at home on Fox news.

Ok, great, most cops aren't total assholes!

Now, about the ones that are.... Why do all the "good" cops cover for them?

And why, when caught, do the assholes never get harshly penalized?


It is not a cop only thing that people who work with each other cover each other's back and not "snitch" on each other. It happens in pretty much all occupations, and I would think especially so for jobs where your life depends on watching out for each other. I cant answer all these questions, because I do not know. All I can say is that a long time ago the mods have figured out that there is a sizeable contingent of cop haters on Fark due to the huge amounts of comments these threads get, and so stories of cop abuse gets disproportionally green. Mods are suppose to control the circle jerk, not encourage it. One of the many reasons why Fark has been going down hill and is fast becoming just a more obscure version of Reddit.
 
2013-12-11 11:53:54 PM

Prophet of Loss: Riddle me this: why do frantic "union buster" conservatives always exclude police unions?


We don't.
 
2013-12-12 12:00:45 AM
i1207.photobucket.com
yall are farking slippin'

/would've settled for a pic of Ad Rock.
 
2013-12-12 12:01:55 AM

Fallout Boy: sendtodave: Fallout Boy: SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.

This is the equivalent of a Fox News viewer saying wtf has happened to the poor people in the country because all they hear on Fox news is how they are welfare leeches who sit at home collecting checks playing xbox all day. Fox  News have a biased narrative and will only show you what they want their audience to see, just like how Fark have a biased narrative by greenlighting certain links in order to draw traffic. There is a reason why you will never see a story of a cop acting in heroism on this site, just like you will never hear a story of a welfare single mom working 2 jobs for minimum wage while her son sits unsupervised at home on Fox news.

Ok, great, most cops aren't total assholes!

Now, about the ones that are.... Why do all the "good" cops cover for them?

And why, when caught, do the assholes never get harshly penalized?

It is not a cop only thing that people who work with each other cover each other's back and not "snitch" on each other. It happens in pretty much all occupations, and I would think especially so for jobs where your life depends on watching out for each other. I cant answer all these questions, because I do not know. All I can say is that a long time ago the mods have figured out that there is a sizeable contingent of cop haters on Fark due to the huge amounts of comments these threads get, and so stories of cop abuse gets disproportionally green. Mods are suppose to control the circle jerk, not encourage it. One of the many reasons why Fark has been going down hill and is fast becoming just a more obscure version of Reddit.


You sound like someone who is more concerned with the popularity of his ideas and not their actual validity.
 
2013-12-12 12:02:23 AM

Fallout Boy: sendtodave: Fallout Boy: SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.

This is the equivalent of a Fox News viewer saying wtf has happened to the poor people in the country because all they hear on Fox news is how they are welfare leeches who sit at home collecting checks playing xbox all day. Fox  News have a biased narrative and will only show you what they want their audience to see, just like how Fark have a biased narrative by greenlighting certain links in order to draw traffic. There is a reason why you will never see a story of a cop acting in heroism on this site, just like you will never hear a story of a welfare single mom working 2 jobs for minimum wage while her son sits unsupervised at home on Fox news.

Ok, great, most cops aren't total assholes!

Now, about the ones that are.... Why do all the "good" cops cover for them?

And why, when caught, do the assholes never get harshly penalized?

It is not a cop only thing that people who work with each other cover each other's back and not "snitch" on each other. It happens in pretty much all occupations, and I would think especially so for jobs where your life depends on watching out for each other. I cant answer all these questions, because I do not know. All I can say is that a long time ago the mods have figured out that there is a sizeable contingent of cop haters on Fark due to the huge amounts of comments these threads get, and so stories of cop abuse gets disproportionally green. Mods are suppose to control the circle jerk, not encourage it. One of the many reasons why Fark has been going down hill and is fast becoming just a more obscure version of Reddit.


Reddit is bad?

It's quite popular...
 
2013-12-12 12:10:24 AM
boy we love this dumb shiat clickbait these days, don't we? Gawker, BuzzFeed, Daily Fail and Opposing Views, fanboy pampering and circlejerk threads on the Geek and Entertainment tabs.

I mean I can't blame Drew for grabbing as much cash and sponsors as he possibly can; I'd do the same. It's just sometimes I'd like to be cuddled after I'm farked in the ass.

Also, doctor who is a children's show.
 
2013-12-12 12:11:51 AM

sendtodave: Fallout Boy: sendtodave: Fallout Boy: SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.

This is the equivalent of a Fox News viewer saying wtf has happened to the poor people in the country because all they hear on Fox news is how they are welfare leeches who sit at home collecting checks playing xbox all day. Fox  News have a biased narrative and will only show you what they want their audience to see, just like how Fark have a biased narrative by greenlighting certain links in order to draw traffic. There is a reason why you will never see a story of a cop acting in heroism on this site, just like you will never hear a story of a welfare single mom working 2 jobs for minimum wage while her son sits unsupervised at home on Fox news.

Ok, great, most cops aren't total assholes!

Now, about the ones that are.... Why do all the "good" cops cover for them?

And why, when caught, do the assholes never get harshly penalized?

It is not a cop only thing that people who work with each other cover each other's back and not "snitch" on each other. It happens in pretty much all occupations, and I would think especially so for jobs where your life depends on watching out for each other. I cant answer all these questions, because I do not know. All I can say is that a long time ago the mods have figured out that there is a sizeable contingent of cop haters on Fark due to the huge amounts of comments these threads get, and so stories of cop abuse gets disproportionally green. Mods are suppose to control the circle jerk, not encourage it. One of the many reasons why Fark has been going down hill and is fast becoming just a more obscure version of Reddit.

Reddit is bad?

It's quite popular...


He seems mad at popular things. We are not supposed to talk about them.

I hear congress isn't popular. Is that safe to talk about or would their unpopularity make them a popular topic of discussion.

I'm confused.
 
2013-12-12 12:12:08 AM

dahmers love zombie: Once again, the 95% of cops who are dirty go screwing it up for the 5% who are clean.  You'd think someone would come up with some way of fixing this.  The camera in the holding cell is a good start.  But we can go further:
1: Helmet/lapel cams for 100 percent of uniformed officers, on with HD video and stereo sound 100% of the time.  Footage to be streamed live to a third-party data company in charge with the safety of the data.  Change the criminal procedure to state that any arrest for which there can be found no cam footage of the arrest is not only immediately to be nullified by the first judge to see the case, but any/all officers with "missing" footage of the arrest are immediately put on unpaid leave until the technical issue is figured out.
2: all police departments of over 50 officers must have an ombudsman on call 24/7 who MUST BE CALLED upon request by any civillian contacted by the officers.  Now, if they abuse the privilege, we can write a criminal penalty into "intentional overuse of the ombudsman".  But everyone out there should have a number they can call at any time to get someone on their side looking at the crime  scene and evidence.
3: all police departments of under 50 officers must work with other local, small PDs to obtain the same ombudsman coverage as stated above.
4: Any police officer found to be hiding, destroying, or otherwise not preserving potentially exculpatory evidence shall be charged with Violation of Civilian Constitutional Rights, with a penalty exactly the same as the crime that the civilian was/was to be charged with.
5: Any police officer found to be escalating use of force outside of a clear need to do so will be charged with Battery on a Civillian by a Peace Officer, which will be a Felony of the same type as that state's statute for Battery on an LEO.
6: Any police officer found to be using force upon a restrained arrestee shall be charged with Aggravated Assault upon a Helpless Civillian, with a penalty identical to that of the state's statute for Aggravated Assault upon a LEO
7: Any police officer using an electrical device such as a Taser for the sole purpose of obtaining compliance shall lose their right to carry such weapon.  Any LEO deploying an electrical weapon solely due to the "attitude" of the subject shall be charged with Simple Batttery on a Civilian, punished exactly as that state's statutes punish battery upon a LEO.  They will also permanently lose their right to carry an electrical weapon.

That would work as a start, I think.


This is THE ONLY relevant response in this thread.

/feeling my inner hippie/radical tonight
//might be the vodka
///three slashes are for losers
 
2013-12-12 12:13:18 AM

b.vimeocdn.com

 
2013-12-12 12:16:01 AM

spamdog: boy we love this dumb shiat clickbait these days, don't we? Gawker, BuzzFeed, Daily Fail and Opposing Views, fanboy pampering and circlejerk threads on the Geek and Entertainment tabs.

I mean I can't blame Drew for grabbing as much cash and sponsors as he possibly can; I'd do the same. It's just sometimes I'd like to be cuddled after I'm farked in the ass.

Also, doctor who is a children's show.


Two "man, fark sucks" posts in a row. Wow.

You know that I do when I don't like a website?

I don't go to that website.


Besides, fark has never been about the articles. You can find these articles on any new aggregator. I'd guess there's a link to this article already somewhere on reddit.

No, fark is about the reactions to the articles. Fark is about the comments. That's what makes fark awesome. The commenters.

So, "wah, fark sucks" posts actually detract more from fark's core competency than a stale article does, really.

You suck worse than gawker.
 
2013-12-12 12:17:30 AM

spamdog: boy we love this dumb shiat clickbait these days, don't we? Gawker, BuzzFeed, Daily Fail and Opposing Views, fanboy pampering and circlejerk threads on the Geek and Entertainment tabs.

I mean I can't blame Drew for grabbing as much cash and sponsors as he possibly can; I'd do the same. It's just sometimes I'd like to be cuddled after I'm farked in the ass.

Also, doctor who is a children's show.


A champion never biatches about the field of play.
 
2013-12-12 12:19:05 AM

rkiller1: Triumph: Oh man, that teaser pic at the bottom leads to a seriously messed up gallery.

Though you gotta admit, the kneeling Mom was pretty tasty.


#20 shows nice trigger discipline, at least
 
2013-12-12 12:19:17 AM

spamdog: boy we love this dumb shiat clickbait these days, don't we? Gawker, BuzzFeed, Daily Fail and Opposing Views, fanboy pampering and circlejerk threads on the Geek and Entertainment tabs.

I mean I can't blame Drew for grabbing as much cash and sponsors as he possibly can; I'd do the same. It's just sometimes I'd like to be cuddled after I'm farked in the ass.

Also, doctor who is a children's show.


Sure is. So is My Little Pony.
 
2013-12-12 12:21:42 AM

SearchN: spamdog: boy we love this dumb shiat clickbait these days, don't we? Gawker, BuzzFeed, Daily Fail and Opposing Views, fanboy pampering and circlejerk threads on the Geek and Entertainment tabs.

I mean I can't blame Drew for grabbing as much cash and sponsors as he possibly can; I'd do the same. It's just sometimes I'd like to be cuddled after I'm farked in the ass.

Also, doctor who is a children's show.

Sure is. So is My Little Pony.


And Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
 
2013-12-12 12:25:25 AM

DubtodaIll: Fallout Boy: sendtodave: Fallout Boy: SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.

This is the equivalent of a Fox News viewer saying wtf has happened to the poor people in the country because all they hear on Fox news is how they are welfare leeches who sit at home collecting checks playing xbox all day. Fox  News have a biased narrative and will only show you what they want their audience to see, just like how Fark have a biased narrative by greenlighting certain links in order to draw traffic. There is a reason why you will never see a story of a cop acting in heroism on this site, just like you will never hear a story of a welfare single mom working 2 jobs for minimum wage while her son sits unsupervised at home on Fox news.

Ok, great, most cops aren't total assholes!

Now, about the ones that are.... Why do all the "good" cops cover for them?

And why, when caught, do the assholes never get harshly penalized?

It is not a cop only thing that people who work with each other cover each other's back and not "snitch" on each other. It happens in pretty much all occupations, and I would think especially so for jobs where your life depends on watching out for each other. I cant answer all these questions, because I do not know. All I can say is that a long time ago the mods have figured out that there is a sizeable contingent of cop haters on Fark due to the huge amounts of comments these threads get, and so stories of cop abuse gets disproportionally green. Mods are suppose to control the circle jerk, not encourage it. One of the many reasons why Fark has been going down hill and is fast becoming just a more obscure version of Reddit.

You sound like someone who is more concerned with the popularity of his ideas and not their actual validity.


I'm not pro-cop or anti-cop. Most cops are good, a whole lot are assholes. I dont have a solution, I dont care about cops, and I dont have a fight to pick with anyone who hates or loves cops. All I have to say is that what you see on Fark does not correlation with reality, and this "cop abuse" epidemic you hear on Fark, like most epidemics you hear on news, are largely manufactured and blown out of proportion to draw traffic. A rational approach is to post and talk about the statistics of police misconducts and to talk about trends and rates. Posting a cop-hate thread every two days so that people think they cant jaywalk without getting shot is a disservice to the discussion, and it is what it is: a circle jerk, no matter how you spin it.
 
2013-12-12 12:27:06 AM

doglover: Also, the last possible shreds of LAPD's credibility. They are now known nationwide as the morons who can't tell a large black man from two older latin women and can't get one in the ten ring to save their own worthless lives.


They could tell.  They just don't care.  There's no downside to killing a few random civilians here and there.
 
2013-12-12 12:27:19 AM

Giltric: sendtodave: Fallout Boy: sendtodave: Fallout Boy: SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.

This is the equivalent of a Fox News viewer saying wtf has happened to the poor people in the country because all they hear on Fox news is how they are welfare leeches who sit at home collecting checks playing xbox all day. Fox  News have a biased narrative and will only show you what they want their audience to see, just like how Fark have a biased narrative by greenlighting certain links in order to draw traffic. There is a reason why you will never see a story of a cop acting in heroism on this site, just like you will never hear a story of a welfare single mom working 2 jobs for minimum wage while her son sits unsupervised at home on Fox news.

Ok, great, most cops aren't total assholes!

Now, about the ones that are.... Why do all the "good" cops cover for them?

And why, when caught, do the assholes never get harshly penalized?

It is not a cop only thing that people who work with each other cover each other's back and not "snitch" on each other. It happens in pretty much all occupations, and I would think especially so for jobs where your life depends on watching out for each other. I cant answer all these questions, because I do not know. All I can say is that a long time ago the mods have figured out that there is a sizeable contingent of cop haters on Fark due to the huge amounts of comments these threads get, and so stories of cop abuse gets disproportionally green. Mods are suppose to control the circle jerk, not encourage it. One of the many reasons why Fark has been going down hill and is fast becoming just a more obscure version of Reddit.

Reddit is bad?

It's quite popular...

He seems mad at popular things. We are not supposed to talk about them.

I hear congress isn't popular. Is that safe to talk about or would their unpopularity m ...


It is a manufactured popularity. Like the tea party, like the popularity of Sarah Palin. Do I have to spell it out for you?
 
2013-12-12 12:27:21 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


Trust me... When i view this story, i look at the flaw of the man.... Yes, he happens to be a cop, and he did what he did while on the job, but the failure is all on him as a person... I don't blame cops.
 
2013-12-12 12:31:15 AM

dahmers love zombie: Once again, the 95% of cops who are dirty go screwing it up for the 5% who are clean.  You'd think someone would come up with some way of fixing this.  The camera in the holding cell is a good start.  But we can go further:
1: Helmet/lapel cams for 100 percent of uniformed officers, on with HD video and stereo sound 100% of the time.  Footage to be streamed live to a third-party data company in charge with the safety of the data.  Change the criminal procedure to state that any arrest for which there can be found no cam footage of the arrest is not only immediately to be nullified by the first judge to see the case, but any/all officers with "missing" footage of the arrest are immediately put on unpaid leave until the technical issue is figured out.
2: all police departments of over 50 officers must have an ombudsman on call 24/7 who MUST BE CALLED upon request by any civillian contacted by the officers.  Now, if they abuse the privilege, we can write a criminal penalty into "intentional overuse of the ombudsman".  But everyone out there should have a number they can call at any time to get someone on their side looking at the crime  scene and evidence.
3: all police departments of under 50 officers must work with other local, small PDs to obtain the same ombudsman coverage as stated above.
4: Any police officer found to be hiding, destroying, or otherwise not preserving potentially exculpatory evidence shall be charged with Violation of Civilian Constitutional Rights, with a penalty exactly the same as the crime that the civilian was/was to be charged with.
5: Any police officer found to be escalating use of force outside of a clear need to do so will be charged with Battery on a Civillian by a Peace Officer, which will be a Felony of the same type as that state's statute for Battery on an LEO.
6: Any police officer found to be using force upon a restrained arrestee shall be charged with Aggravated Assault upon a Helpless Civillian, with a penalty identical to that ...


I would add one more:
7:  all police officers must under go a psychiatric  evaluation once a year, when these will happen will not be revealed until one week prior failure to appear for the appointment can be grounds for immediately terminations, exceptions can be made in case of emergencies once verified.

If the evaluation shows you are not fit for street duty officer will be assigned a desk job, be reassigned as a 911 operator or court bailiff  or be allowed to resign. Officers may return to street duty upon passing a psychiatric  evaluation but will be on probation for 1 year.
 
2013-12-12 12:31:19 AM
Gyrfalcon,
1. Someone above suggested civil suits have to come out of the pension fund. That would be one way. I remember when Rodney King got his settlement, and everyone was cheering F*CK YEAH! SHOW THOSE COPS!! except it didn't: It came out of the city of L.A.'s account, which meant the taxpayers of the City, which meant everyone cheering F*CK YEAH SHOW THOSE COPS.

This is probably one of the weakest ideas, because although I hate providing incentives to police misbehavior, it should be something shared. Matched retirement funds, equipment fund, ect to provide a shared purpose. This could be cheated easily and probably is one of the weaker things.
2. Hold the D.A.'s office accountable for investigating dirty/abusive cops. They are the ones who have to follow up on citizen's complaints and they are the ones who decide whether or not to charge those cops with crimes. Every time these threads come up and people shriek about bad cops not getting charged, guess what: It's not the cops' job to do anything but put them on leave. It's the District Attorney's. I've yet to see ANYONE hold them to account for not doing THEIR jobs.
Make it a state or federal special position. The local DA has everything to lose by going for a cop.
3. Stop requiring police to do contradictory work. Nearly everyone expects police to: a) arrest bad guys, b) immediately, c) without error, d) without mercy; and at the same time i) arrest the RIGHT bad guys, ii) without hurting them, iii) without hurting anyone else, iv) without inconveniencing anyone else. One reason police went to Tasers is because of the hue&cry over seeing so many bruises on perps from excessive use of PR-24s. One reason we see SWAT teams armored up like Marines going into Fallujah is because people want barricaded suspects taken out of their hideouts NOW and not after a four-day standoff while they calmly talk him out--and that takes armor and firepower.

We need more aggressive police?
4. Disarm the police and put them back on foot; but provide immediate heavy weapons for backup when needed. Just as soldiers in enemy territory can do more to win "hearts and minds" when they can get out among the populace and interact with them, so law enforcement used to work better when beat officers actually knew the neighborhoods and the trouble spots. At the same time, criminals are better armed and meaner now than 50 years ago, so hardcore response is needed and should be available when necessary.
Agreed, keep don't militarize the police on local patrol. And we already have SWAT teams so no issue there.

5. Assign one officer per patrol as the "designated shooter". One reason so many shootings seem to be overkill is that officers--like soldiers--are taught to empty their magazines. Police 9mms or Glocks hold 16 rounds, so if four officers are involved and all empty their pistols, that's a whopping 64 rounds that just got fired at the suspect. There should be an alpha, beta and delta designated shooter order, and no reloads unless facing multiple shooters.

Not sure, this is a military engagement thing but I welcome your idea.

6. One officer per patrol should have a head-mounted camera with a 30-second continuous loop, and a direct feed back to the patrol car. In any interaction with suspects, the officer presses a switch and it begins a live feed to the recording unit in the car. This could also be triggered remotely from the dispatch center upon receiving a 97-on scene call, in case of evolving situations.
As long as police don't decided when they go on and off.

7. All officers should be screened not less than every six months for signs of PTSD. Any officer deemed to be displaying early symptoms must be given mandatory counseling; if he/she does not show improvement, he/she must be assigned to different duties away from the streets until it improves. Alternatively, or to avoid this, duties could be rotated on and off the street to prevent traumatic stress from developing in the first place.

Great idea.
There's some ideas. Feel free to add your own.

My ideas.
8-Cops are the ones that charge people with crimes, if they are found guilty of the same thing double it for cops that have the duty of arresting people
9-Doctors and police both have alot of control over people's lives. If doctors make a mistake they have insurance and one too many mistakes, no more job. Same for police. But only if the they step over the line of their defined duties. It will not be the same 'civilian review boards' we have now making those decisions when the lined is stepped however.
8-The use of compustat and broken windows can be a good thing, but it has also created a hyper-aggressive police force and the juking of stats. For instance causing people to be arrested for no reason (81st district/Schoolcraft) , and causing rapes to be misclassified as something else lower. If compustat/broken windows will be used together, it will not be used for bullshiat political reasons.
9-Put a check on what bullshiat police unions can get away with in defending they own. On that same note, lets create a series of federal standards so that bad cops don't go from place to place with bad catholic priests.
 
2013-12-12 12:32:48 AM
Fallout Boy: All I can say is that a long time ago the mods have figured out that there is a sizeable contingent of cop haters on Fark due to the huge amounts of comments these threads get, and so stories of cop abuse gets disproportionally green.

Fark is filled with Cop-haters?

As far as I can tell, something like ten percent of Fark posters are current or retired Officers or family members.

Pretty much every thread about Police misconduct is filled with people saying if you don't want an Officer to kick your head in, you should have sucked him off when he told you too, or at least made sure you were born white.
 
2013-12-12 12:45:45 AM

sendtodave: You know that I do when I don't like a website?

I don't go to that website.


Well, I'm going to continue to express my point of view. Fark's descent into yellow journalism is not inevitable.
 
2013-12-12 12:52:40 AM

spamdog: boy we love this dumb shiat clickbait these days, don't we? Gawker, BuzzFeed, Daily Fail and Opposing Views, fanboy pampering and circlejerk threads on the Geek and Entertainment tabs.

I mean I can't blame Drew for grabbing as much cash and sponsors as he possibly can; I'd do the same. It's just sometimes I'd like to be cuddled after I'm farked in the ass.

Also, doctor who is a children's show.


Usually if there's a news story worth clicking on there are other sources.  I linked to one for this upthread somewhere.  I didn't have to click on Opposing Views to find it.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20131210/ARTICLES/131219956/1402/NEWS? T it le=Corrections-officer-arrested-over-mishandling-of-inmate


There.It has more details and is more objective and just as important they did the reporting themselves.  That last bit might be the most important of them all.  If we fail to support the news sites that actually get the story all we'll be left with is crap.

All of those sites you mention are crap as I'm sure you'd agree.  I refuse to click on any of them.
 
2013-12-12 12:56:40 AM

Enemabag Jones: My ideas.
8-Cops are the ones that charge people with crimes, if they are found guilty of the same thing double it for cops that have the duty of arresting people
9-Doctors and police both have alot of control over people's lives. If doctors make a mistake they have insurance and one too many mistakes, no more job. Same for police. But only if the they step over the line of their defined duties. It will not be the same 'civilian review boards' we have now making those decisions when the lined is stepped however.
8-The use of compustat and broken windows can be a good thing, but it has also created a hyper-aggressive police force and the juking of stats. For instance causing people to be arrested for no reason (81st district/Schoolcraft) , and causing rapes to be misclassified as something else lower. If compustat/broken windows will be used together, it will not be used for bullshiat political reasons.
9-Put a check on what bullshiat police unions can get away with in defending they own. On that same note, lets create a series of federal standards so that bad cops don't go from place to place with bad catholic priests.


I like your ideas. I don't get that first one--you mean if cops are found guilty of a crime on duty, the penalty should be doubled? Like if a cop on duty gets caught committing robbery or rape, then double the penalty if convicted? I think that's fair.

I'd take your stats thing, and throw it out completely. Police performance, like teacher performance, should not be tied to arbitrary and easily tweaked things like arrest stats. Police performance should be tied (if to anything) to ultimate quality of arrest/conviction--i.e., not just did they arrest Junkie Scumbag, but did Junkie Scumbag get convicted AND did Junkie Scumbag's conviction make it through appeal? And this would also mean cutting close ties between the cops and the DA's office, thus making the DA actually do their job and not rubber stamping arrests so they can get lots of plea bargains.

There is zero reason, in 2013/14, why ANYONE--cops, priests, teachers, doctors--should be going from being fired in one jurisdiction to practicing in another jurisdiction without some kind of independent review board or oversight board, imo.
 
2013-12-12 12:59:54 AM

spamdog: sendtodave: You know that I do when I don't like a website?

I don't go to that website.

Well, I'm going to continue to express my point of view. Fark's descent into yellow journalism is not inevitable.


Bud, you've been here long enough to know it is going to happen.
 
2013-12-12 01:02:32 AM

spamdog: sendtodave: You know that I do when I don't like a website?

I don't go to that website.

Well, I'm going to continue to express my point of view. Fark's descent into yellow journalism is not inevitable.


www.quickmeme.com
 
2013-12-12 01:05:43 AM

gfid: spamdog: boy we love this dumb shiat clickbait these days, don't we? Gawker, BuzzFeed, Daily Fail and Opposing Views, fanboy pampering and circlejerk threads on the Geek and Entertainment tabs.

I mean I can't blame Drew for grabbing as much cash and sponsors as he possibly can; I'd do the same. It's just sometimes I'd like to be cuddled after I'm farked in the ass.

Also, doctor who is a children's show.

Usually if there's a news story worth clicking on there are other sources.  I linked to one for this upthread somewhere.  I didn't have to click on Opposing Views to find it.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20131210/ARTICLES/131219956/1402/NEWS? T it le=Corrections-officer-arrested-over-mishandling-of-inmate


There.It has more details and is more objective and just as important they did the reporting themselves.  That last bit might be the most important of them all.  If we fail to support the news sites that actually get the story all we'll be left with is crap.

All of those sites you mention are crap as I'm sure you'd agree.  I refuse to click on any of them.


I'd like to know how many of the "good" sites of yesteryear are now hidden behind paywalls.
 
2013-12-12 01:31:58 AM
Cops have a dangerous, high stress job. They have to assume that everyone they meet is a potential spitter. In order to protect themselves from spit, they have to forcefully take control of a situation. If you don't want to get head-slammed, you have to stop doing things to make cops think you're a threat, including salivation, coughing, and having allergies.
 
2013-12-12 01:36:05 AM

dahmers love zombie: Once again, the 95% of cops who are dirty go screwing it up for the 5% who are clean.  You'd think someone would come up with some way of fixing this.  The camera in the holding cell is a good start.  But we can go further:
1: Helmet/lapel cams for 100 percent of uniformed officers, on with HD video and stereo sound 100% of the time.  Footage to be streamed live to a third-party data company in charge with the safety of the data.  Change the criminal procedure to state that any arrest for which there can be found no cam footage of the arrest is not only immediately to be nullified by the first judge to see the case, but any/all officers with "missing" footage of the arrest are immediately put on unpaid leave until the technical issue is figured out.
2: all police departments of over 50 officers must have an ombudsman on call 24/7 who MUST BE CALLED upon request by any civillian contacted by the officers.  Now, if they abuse the privilege, we can write a criminal penalty into "intentional overuse of the ombudsman".  But everyone out there should have a number they can call at any time to get someone on their side looking at the crime  scene and evidence.
3: all police departments of under 50 officers must work with other local, small PDs to obtain the same ombudsman coverage as stated above.
4: Any police officer found to be hiding, destroying, or otherwise not preserving potentially exculpatory evidence shall be charged with Violation of Civilian Constitutional Rights, with a penalty exactly the same as the crime that the civilian was/was to be charged with.
5: Any police officer found to be escalating use of force outside of a clear need to do so will be charged with Battery on a Civillian by a Peace Officer, which will be a Felony of the same type as that state's statute for Battery on an LEO.
6: Any police officer found to be using force upon a restrained arrestee shall be charged with Aggravated Assault upon a Helpless Civillian, with a penalty identical to that ...


8. As a condition of employment, each officer must carry at his or her OWN EXPENSE Professional Liability Insurance, with coverage starting at $5 million the first five years and optionally decreasing afterwards, with any and all awards resulting from their misconduct to be paid by their carrier fully before the city or state kick in.

Accountants, contractors, and plumbers carry this kind of insurance which is maybe a few hundred bucks a year. A computer consultant going onto a customer's site must carry this insurance in case they go bugf*ck nuts and assault a receptionist or throw a chair through a window or piss on the database server.

First time a cop gets caught beating the crap out of a civvie for no reason, the insurer pays out and his carrier jacks up his rates.

Next time he's viddied blanket-macing a sidewalk full of dinnergoers from the running bar of the ol' SWAT war wagon - just because - the insurer pays out and his carrier jacks up his rates.

Pretty soon Officer RoidRage can't afford his premiums anymore and has to go work at the mall harassing minorities, losing his former gummint job with the sweet benefits, guaranteed pension after a relatively short service (unlike almost all other municipal employees), zealous protection from the consequences of their most blatant felonious conduct by not only their employer but their ultrafanatical and unassailable holy police union (again, unlike other municipal employees - even Wisconsin Gov. Walker at the apex of his power didn't dare mess with the police union (f*ck teachers and everyone else of course)), and of course prejudicial presumption of innocence and truth in any court proceedings.
 
2013-12-12 01:43:39 AM

Slaxl: The video looked like it went like this

Drunk person is drunk, saying "this man is a gentleman", in a way a drunk person might think is being friendly
coont of an officer apparently misunderstands and argues "he's just doing his job"
Drunk person is drunk and tries repeating it in hope it makes sense
coont of an officer is a coont, and so is his officer friends.

I honestly can't tell what happens next, he doesn't clear his throat, he makes like he might be blowing something out of his mouth, but it's definitely not spitting, but it's enough that I would expect a coont of a police officer to overreact.

coont of a police officer overreacts
His coont friends join in to overreact

Some elderly woman comes along to check out his head injury, while they all lie about how he spat.

They're all coonts, except the drunk guy, and the elderly woman.

I wouldn't say that to their face, of course, because I've already served my time in hospital after coming off the wrong end of a police officer's coontishness. I have no inclination to do it again, and I know all police officers aren't coonts, but those 3 in the video are clearly a bag of coonts each.

/drunk


THIS
Why werent the other officers arrested for failing to arrest the first officer?
Did they all lie on their reports?

FFS, they should all be charged under RICO.

WHY isnt it legal to shoot cops again?
THEY are a Clear and Present Danger
 
2013-12-12 01:51:19 AM

Danger Avoid Death: I'd like to know how many of the "good" sites of yesteryear are now hidden behind paywalls.


Oddly enough, I don't hit that many paywalls.  It's an interesting phenomenon.  How do these news sites get paid?  Well, through ads of course, but I use Ad Block, so I ask again, how do they get paid?

I used to pay money to get a newspaper thrown at my front door every morning.  I haven't done that in a while because news is so cheap and easy to come by on the internet, but at what price does that come with?  Someone has to pay for the writers and editors of news sites.

Putting up free news sites seems like an unsustainable model to me.  A few years ago one of the newspapers near me had to close up shop.  Others have been snapped up by conglomerates and try to make you pay by limiting how many articles you can read each month, but they aren't very good at it.    The news becomes more generic and there's less depth to the articles.

It's an interesting problem for journalists and the companies that publish news.  Would I pay to get news?  Well, not when I can get it for free. For some reason I think things will change in a few years.  Small newspapers like the one in my town will have to partner up with larger newspapers and offer a subscription.  The big problem is who is going to cast the first stone?  Whoever does will lose page views like crazy because there are in fact very few exclusive stories.

I want local, state, national and international news.  I'd be willing to pay for it too.  Like I said, I used to get a paper delivered and it covered all of that shiat.    The NY Times is good, but they're not going to give me local news.  My local paper is okay, but I don't rely on them for anything other than local news.

We'll see what happens.  I think the market in news is in for a shake up and I actually wouldn't mind paying $5 a month for news and I hope sites like Opposing Views just die.
 
2013-12-12 01:57:51 AM
Gyrfalcon,
Enemabag Jones: My ideas.
8-Cops are the ones that charge people with crimes, if they are found guilty of the same thing double it for cops that have the duty of arresting people
9-Doctors and police both have alot of control over people's lives. If doctors make a mistake they have insurance and one too many mistakes, no more job. Same for police. But only if the they step over the line of their defined duties. It will not be the same 'civilian review boards' we have now making those decisions when the lined is stepped however.
8-The use of compustat and broken windows can be a good thing, but it has also created a hyper-aggressive police force and the juking of stats. For instance causing people to be arrested for no reason (81st district/Schoolcraft) , and causing rapes to be misclassified as something else lower. If compustat/broken windows will be used together, it will not be used for bullshiat political reasons.
9-Put a check on what bullshiat police unions can get away with in defending they own. On that same note, lets create a series of federal standards so that bad cops don't go from place to place with bad catholic priests.

I like your ideas. I don't get that first one--you mean if cops are found guilty of a crime on duty, the penalty should be doubled? Like if a cop on duty gets caught committing robbery or rape, then double the penalty if convicted? I think that's fair.

I'd take your stats thing, and throw it out completely. Police performance, like teacher performance, should not be tied to arbitrary and easily tweaked things like arrest stats. Police performance should be tied (if to anything) to ultimate quality of arrest/conviction--i.e., not just did they arrest Junkie Scumbag, but did Junkie Scumbag get convicted AND did Junkie Scumbag's conviction make it through appeal? And this would also mean cutting close ties between the cops and the DA's office, thus making the DA actually do their job and not rubber stamping arrests so they can get lots of plea bargains.

There is zero reason, in 2013/14, why ANYONE--cops, priests, teachers, doctors--should be going from being fired in one jurisdiction to practicing in another jurisdiction without some kind of independent review board or oversight board, imo.


Regarding the stats, that is more about police management, not about the specific cops expectations. It is one of the reasons why cops might act like dicks when they would not normally, to make the numbers.

Regarding the police union/transfer thing, it is still a half-baked idea that needs more thought and presentation. Forget I said it.
 
2013-12-12 02:04:37 AM

gfid: Putting up free news sites seems like an unsustainable model to me. A few years ago one of the newspapers near me had to close up shop. Others have been snapped up by conglomerates and try to make you pay by limiting how many articles you can read each month, but they aren't very good at it.


The LA Times tries to limit how many articles you can read each month, but if you just delete your cookies you can get unlimited access. It's a laughably easy limitation to get around, so far. I suspect other newspaper sites are the same way. If a lunkhead like me can so easily circumvent their "limitations", I don't see why anyone would pay $5/week to subscribe.
 
2013-12-12 02:08:30 AM

Danger Avoid Death: gfid: Putting up free news sites seems like an unsustainable model to me. A few years ago one of the newspapers near me had to close up shop. Others have been snapped up by conglomerates and try to make you pay by limiting how many articles you can read each month, but they aren't very good at it.

The LA Times tries to limit how many articles you can read each month, but if you just delete your cookies you can get unlimited access. It's a laughably easy limitation to get around, so far. I suspect other newspaper sites are the same way. If a lunkhead like me can so easily circumvent their "limitations", I don't see why anyone would pay $5/week to subscribe.


Yeah, that works with nytimes, too, last I checked.
 
2013-12-12 02:19:26 AM
I was trying to read the article, when this stupid picture popped up.
 
2013-12-12 02:23:20 AM

gaspode: You know, he COULD have been spitting, but Im pretty farking sure that even in florida, spitting at a policeman is not sufficient cause to hit someones head against a tile wall hard enough to leave blood smears.

I mean it might be cause for a charge, or for restraint or even a mask or something, but potentially fatal head injuries are not a recognised method of ensuring compliance anywhere.


Someone's never been through BLET.
 
2013-12-12 02:26:59 AM

BafflerMeal: [dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 850x508]


What the fark is this? Someone's coffee table they got shiatty muscle-car art airbrushed onto? It's posted in every damn cop thread and I have no idea what I'm supposed to take away from the image.
 
2013-12-12 02:27:16 AM

Danger Avoid Death: gfid: Putting up free news sites seems like an unsustainable model to me. A few years ago one of the newspapers near me had to close up shop. Others have been snapped up by conglomerates and try to make you pay by limiting how many articles you can read each month, but they aren't very good at it.

The LA Times tries to limit how many articles you can read each month, but if you just delete your cookies you can get unlimited access. It's a laughably easy limitation to get around, so far. I suspect other newspaper sites are the same way. If a lunkhead like me can so easily circumvent their "limitations", I don't see why anyone would pay $5/week to subscribe.


Yeah, my local paper does the same thing.  I rarely read more than their limit, but it's laughably easy to get around.  I figure they're just going for the low-hanging fruit at this point.
 
2013-12-12 02:46:28 AM

namegoeshere: The few, rare bad apples, and all the others who lie and cover up for them.


No, no... you never hear about those.
 
2013-12-12 02:51:11 AM

DubtodaIll: The reason America has so many pussies is because corporal punishment has become a no-no. I would take a beating over jail time if it were ever offered, and it would have a more deterrent effect on behavior. You can normalize any environment, even jail, you never get used to getting your ass kicked and you always remember why it happened.


Chances are, this guy won't remember why this happened.

Even if he'd been kicked in the nuts 50 times, he'd not remember why it happened.
 
2013-12-12 02:53:26 AM

puffy999: DubtodaIll: The reason America has so many pussies is because corporal punishment has become a no-no. I would take a beating over jail time if it were ever offered, and it would have a more deterrent effect on behavior. You can normalize any environment, even jail, you never get used to getting your ass kicked and you always remember why it happened.

Chances are, this guy won't remember why this happened.

Even if he'd been kicked in the nuts 50 times, he'd not remember why it happened.


But he'd have a lovely singing voice.
 
2013-12-12 02:54:03 AM

Fallout Boy: All I can say is that a long time ago the mods have figured out that there is a sizeable contingent of cop haters on Fark due to the huge amounts of comments these threads get, and so stories of cop abuse gets disproportionally green


There are VERY F*CKING FEW places on the internet where these kinds of stories actually make any sort of front page. A cop can MURDER A CHILD sleeping on a couch because his dumb ass served a no-knock warrant, and it doesn't become the leading story on CNN.

Methinks you're complaining about the wrong f*cking thing, myself. Frankly, our nation DESERVES to hear about the bastards who we worship as if they're Gods amongst men.
 
2013-12-12 02:55:39 AM

Danger Avoid Death: Even if he'd been kicked in the nuts 50 times, he'd not remember why it happened.

But he'd have a lovely singing voice.


After that many times, only dogs could hear it.
 
2013-12-12 02:56:41 AM
It really should come outta their pensions when cops screw up. First the offending officer's, the the department's, then the city's, then the state's. Then, when every single cop in the whole state has 0 pension left, then maybe, MAYBE taxpayer money might be used for damages, but prolly not. That would be one big lawsuit.
 
2013-12-12 02:57:44 AM

Bandito King: BafflerMeal: [dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 850x508]

What the fark is this? Someone's coffee table they got shiatty muscle-car art airbrushed onto? It's posted in every damn cop thread and I have no idea what I'm supposed to take away from the image.


I have no idea what it is either and it doesn't seem interesting enough to go a GIS for.
 
2013-12-12 02:59:17 AM
Incidentally, this video is farked up. I don't care if he said the cop's mom raped a goat with her cervix, a large man threw a prone individual's head against a f*cking concrete wall.

If a civilian did that, some places in this country would be throwing attempted murder charges out there in order to force a plea agreement (and because a guy that size SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH F*CKING ATTEMPTED MURDER WHEN HE SLAMS THE SIDE OF A PRONE SMALL MAN'S HEAD INTO A F*CKING WALL).
 
2013-12-12 03:10:28 AM

gfid: Bandito King: BafflerMeal: [dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 850x508]

What the fark is this? Someone's coffee table they got shiatty muscle-car art airbrushed onto? It's posted in every damn cop thread and I have no idea what I'm supposed to take away from the image.

I have no idea what it is either and it doesn't seem interesting enough to go a GIS for.


I'm am guessing a frame picture sitting on some carpet before it gets mounted to a wall.
 
2013-12-12 03:11:19 AM
Isolated incident.
 
2013-12-12 03:39:23 AM
Cop's probably roided out.
 
2013-12-12 04:22:52 AM
I'm sorry - if you watch the video - go to the part right before the cops slam his head into the wall.....that noise....it is NOT a clearing of a throat.  No way.  Play it back a few times.  Close your eyes.  It's pretty obvious what it is.  Right at 35 seconds.  That's a spit.

You've got a guy in custody.  He's clearly under the influence of some drug (probably alcohol).
And he did spit.

Spitting, aside from being gross, is actually a little dangerous.  Was he being mistreated before hand?  I don't see any evidence of it.
Was he being mistreated after he was masked?  Nope.
He was even given medical care.

Personally, I don't see a problem here.  While he posed a threat, he was treated with hostility.
 
2013-12-12 05:30:47 AM

AutumnWind: I can't be the only one who wants to know how Slaxl ended up in the hospital because of police.


I was hit on the head with a truncheon.
 
2013-12-12 07:33:18 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


Chris Rock:  nubians always want credit for some shiat they supposed to do. A nubian will brag about some shiat a normal man just does. A nubian will say some shiat like, "I take care of my kids." You're supposed to, you dumb motherfarker! What kind of ignorant shiat is that? "I ain't never been to jail!" What do you want, a cookie?! You're not supposed to go to jail, you low-expectation-having motherfarker!

/and you're supposed to not kill family pets who are in crates and not wood shampoo that dirty hippy because he gave you the stink eye.
 
2013-12-12 07:35:14 AM

Slaxl: AutumnWind: I can't be the only one who wants to know how Slaxl ended up in the hospital because of police.

I was hit on the head with a truncheon.


That's called "kissing the billy club"
-----------------------

Old Sarge bellows from here to eternity.
"WHAT THE BLOODY farkING HELL ARE CIVILIANS FOR?
SOLDIERS' PAY."'


If we stopped letting cops beat the crap out of people, then why would anyone want to be a cop?
 .
 
2013-12-12 07:37:03 AM

OnlyM3: Reason 8,055,924 why I can watch dashcams video of cops becoming DRT and laugh and laugh and laugh.


Dead Right There?
I prefer ART myself. Assuming Room Temperature.
 
2013-12-12 07:46:34 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


It's like I always say,  1% of police get a bad name from the other 99%.
 
2013-12-12 07:51:23 AM

wambu: Due to the increased use of security monitors as well as individual smartphones, prevalence of police brutality being caught on camera has been widespread throughout the past few years.

If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.

[i.imgur.com image 379x214]


I'm not doing anything wrong* when I shag my wife. Should I allow the gov't to monitor that activity?
 
2013-12-12 07:52:58 AM

gaspode: I mean it might be cause for a charge, or for restraint or even a mask or something, but potentially fatal head injuries are not a recognised method of ensuring compliance anywhere.


Actualy I'd argue that it is a well recognised method. Just not a very good one for the person being complianced.


Slaxl: AutumnWind: I can't be the only one who wants to know how Slaxl ended up in the hospital because of police.

I was hit on the head with a truncheon.


I know how you feel. I got hit on the head with a luncheon. Not the entire thing, mind you, just a cube of colby jack that someone tossed at me.
 
2013-12-12 07:55:28 AM
vigilantcitizen.com
 
2013-12-12 08:02:14 AM

hardinparamedic: kling_klang_bed: Sorry, got too distracted by the pic below the article to worry about police brutality:

[www.opposingviews.com image 500x335]

You sick fark. She's five.


She looks mid 20s to me. Oh wait, you meant the little girl, why are you looking at her you sick fark?
 
2013-12-12 08:08:23 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


Bull. Utterly retarded bullshyte.

We hear about them all the time. They're the stories that carry the [HERO] tag.

Cops just doing their job is not news - that's what's supposed to happen all the time. Duh.
 
2013-12-12 08:14:29 AM

Triumph: Oh man, that teaser pic at the bottom leads to a seriously messed up gallery.


You're not kidding...that mermaid costume is 11 kinds of wrong...
 
2013-12-12 08:52:51 AM

namegoeshere: This is the worst of it. Not that there was one asshole cop.  It's that every other cop who was present lied for him. So the cops who themselves might never have slammed someone's head into the wall for no reason except a dick-compensation power trip have no problem at all lying and covering up for the asshole who does.


Both of these people should lose their jobs and be prosecuted for the usual things they'd put on a regular person.  Lets just start with interfering with an investigation, assault, conspiracy...
 
2013-12-12 09:04:28 AM

Triumph: Oh man, that teaser pic at the bottom leads to a seriously messed up gallery.


This.  I went there, it's hard to pick a winner, loser, worst, biggest idiot.  After careful consideration,
I'm voting for the dope who is feeding his child to the racoons.
 
2013-12-12 09:22:49 AM

scottydoesntknow: Benevolent Misanthrope: scottydoesntknow: Original link that's not OV or Daily Fail

WTF - are OV and Fail sponsors or something?

Ehh I think they are both good for weird or upsetting news sources, but that's it. They're both a goldmine for Fark headlines because they're basically news aggregators with shiatty, obviously biased journalists. Add on the borderline-NSFW ads/links they have (I farking hate that "Does this peach look like a vagina? Then you're a perv!" popup on OV) and they can go fark themselves. We need to click the source (because there's ALWAYS a source) and submit that. Hell, maybe run a test and see if a headline from OV or Fail gets preferential treatment over the same headline from random sources.


Well in the case of this OV article, the source is the Daily fail...
 
2013-12-12 09:26:02 AM

spamdog: sendtodave: You know that I do when I don't like a website?

I don't go to that website.

Well, I'm going to continue to express my point of view. Fark's descent into yellow journalism is not inevitable.


I hear they don't let you do that at other places.
 
2013-12-12 09:28:54 AM
a drunk driver who was also jerk got roughed up..
cry me a river
when a drunk or a sleeper can crash into a car and kill people..then get probation
well, I may need to go home to get a few shiats that someone was mean to them

my nypd pal was telling me about one of their own,
a big cop who had a rabbit suit and a bat painted like a carrot.
He would tune up drunks and druggies who were being a pain in the ass.
when the A-hole would complain about brutality in court,
well...they could desribe their attacker, but no such rabbit was ever prosecuted
 
2013-12-12 09:51:43 AM
I got a saying about the police that I go by that describes them all.

The police are not your friends. They do not protect and serve any more. They are out to arrest you and throw you in jail for any reason they can find. Good or bad cops, their job is make sure you are in hand cuffs and in the back of their cars if you ever run into them.
 
2013-12-12 10:23:26 AM

DubtodaIll: The reason America has so many pussies is because corporal punishment has become a no-no. I would take a beating over jail time if it were ever offered, and it would have a more deterrent effect on behavior. You can normalize any environment, even jail, you never get used to getting your ass kicked and you always remember why it happened.


To a certain point, I agree with you.  I think knowing that a caning was a risk might stop some people from doing whatever stupid shiat they are considering.

However, corporal punishment should be punishment given after a trial, and it needs to be a  controlled situation.  If it's just "The cops get to beat people up when they feel like", then it's a bad plan

.

Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally, I don't see a problem here. While he posed a threat, he was treated with hostility.


Even if he had outright spit on the cop, which didn't happen, the cops don't get to just beat the crap out of the guy.  That's not how it works, and only an asshole would think that's how it should be.
 
2013-12-12 10:31:40 AM

Technoir: wambu: Due to the increased use of security monitors as well as individual smartphones, prevalence of police brutality being caught on camera has been widespread throughout the past few years.

If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.

[i.imgur.com image 379x214]

I'm not doing anything wrong* when I shag my wife. Should I allow the gov't to monitor that activity?


As long as you are doing the nasty in private, no problem, no cameras, no government. On a park bench at noon, break out the cameras and share on FB. MySpace.
 
2013-12-12 10:35:34 AM

SuperNinjaToad: man! between stomping on that family's pet parakeet and now a video if this.. all in just 2 short days!
WTF has happened to the police in this country.


Nothing.  The prevalence of handheld recording devices has simply allowed us to see a lot more of them doing their "duty".

sameasiteverwas.jpg
 
2013-12-12 10:45:52 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about


****Sorry to disappoint you but bad apples in law enforcement are the rule rather than the exception. So continue to lie to yourself about these "good cops" because these same "good cops" protect, defend and justify the behavior of those "few" bad apples. And that, frankly, makes them as bad or even worse.
 
2013-12-12 11:16:38 AM
OK. Just watched the video. I honestly don't care whether or not the cop gets charged, because we have accepted this sort of cop/thug behavior, and charging him will not influence any of his buddies.

What should happen, is that Lip Hair Blower needs to have a very comfortable lifestyle for all of his days, and douche cop needs to master his BJ technique.
 
2013-12-12 11:53:04 AM

Gyrfalcon: sendtodave: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: TV's Vinnie: Is it me or have cops from coast to coast become even more dangerous to the nation than terrorists?

You only ever read about the few bad apples, never the good cops who put their lives on the line every day to keep you and your family safe.

You never read about the many cops who don't stomp people's heads in.

You never read about the cops who don't shoot half a dozen bystanders.

You never read about the cops who don't kill family pets.

You never hear about the cops who don't take you to a hospital to get a camera stuffed up your colon.

You never hear about the cops who don't plot to murder and eat some chick.

It's only the few, rare bad apples that you hear about

It doesn't seem so rare.

How would you suggest taking power away from the assholes?

1. Someone above suggested civil suits have to come out of the pension fund. That would be one way. I remember when Rodney King got his settlement, and everyone was cheering F*CK YEAH! SHOW THOSE COPS!! except it didn't: It came out of the city of L.A.'s  account, which meant the taxpayers of the City, which meant everyone cheering F*CK YEAH SHOW THOSE COPS.

2. Hold the D.A.'s office accountable for investigating dirty/abusive cops. They are the ones who have to follow up on citizen's complaints and they are the ones who decide whether or not to charge those cops with crimes. Every time these threads come up and people shriek about bad cops not getting charged, guess what: It's not the cops' job to do anything but put them on leave. It's the District Attorney's. I've yet to see ANYONE hold them to account for not doing THEIR jobs.

3. Stop requiring police to do contradictory work. Nearly everyone expects police to: a) arrest bad guys, b) immediately, c) without error, d) without mercy; and at the same time i) arrest the RIGHT bad guys, ii) without hurting them, iii) without hurting anyone else, iv) without inconveniencing anyone else. One reason police went to Tas ...


You have a lot of good ideas. I suspect we'll opt for pretending like these "victims" deserve it.
 
2013-12-12 12:00:42 PM

ZeroCorpse: How about NOT hiring former jocks and high school bullies into the police department?


Because those are the people that want to be cops and apply for the job. People that aren't power tripping bullies don't normally choose being an authoritarian dick as a profession.
People with the mentality to want to be cops are the last people who should be cops.
/same for politicians
 
2013-12-12 12:18:27 PM

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: ZeroCorpse: How about NOT hiring former jocks and high school bullies into the police department?

Because those are the people that want to be cops and apply for the job. People that aren't power tripping bullies don't normally choose being an authoritarian dick as a profession.
People with the mentality to want to be cops are the last people who should be cops.
/same for politicians


It also runs the other way.

People who do too well on the department tests actually get excluded (there have been lawsuits from high scorers who were disallowed that ended with the police department winning by saying they didn't want people who were too smart).

People who appear to be too earnest fail the interview because they are not what the department is looking for.  The interviewer is looking for people like himself.  Therefore the bully mentality gets perpetuated.
 
2013-12-12 01:10:56 PM
I shudder to think how much police brutality happened before there were cameras everywhere.

Which makes the cops who still do it look awfully stupid.

If I think there's a camera somewhere, I hesitate to pick my nose or scratch my ass (lest that footage end up in some "look at these dorks picking their nose in public" supercut on YouTube), much less slam another person's head into a wall.
 
2013-12-12 01:56:54 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: I shudder to think how much police brutality happened before there were cameras everywhere.

Which makes the cops who still do it look awfully stupid.

If I think there's a camera somewhere, I hesitate to pick my nose or scratch my ass (lest that footage end up in some "look at these dorks picking their nose in public" supercut on YouTube), much less slam another person's head into a wall.


You'd think they wouldn't try any monkey business in their own farking station on their own farking security cameras though.
 
2013-12-12 02:32:23 PM

scottydoesntknow: They're both a goldmine for Fark headlines because they're basically news aggregators with shiatty, obviously biased journalists.


Huh?  OV is always a complete cut and paste from another source.
 
2013-12-12 03:08:08 PM

IRQ12: scottydoesntknow: They're both a goldmine for Fark headlines because they're basically news aggregators with shiatty, obviously biased journalists.

Huh?  OV is always a complete cut and paste from another source.


No it's not. The source will have facts. OV contains about 25% facts (from the source) and the rest opinions of whatever shiatty journalist is writing about it.
 
2013-12-12 03:15:27 PM

strife: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I shudder to think how much police brutality happened before there were cameras everywhere.

Which makes the cops who still do it look awfully stupid.

If I think there's a camera somewhere, I hesitate to pick my nose or scratch my ass (lest that footage end up in some "look at these dorks picking their nose in public" supercut on YouTube), much less slam another person's head into a wall.

You'd think they wouldn't try any monkey business in their own farking station on their own farking security cameras though.


I suspect there wasn't much going through this cop's mind except rage at the exact moment he smashed the guy's head into the wall. It was an impulsive act by a person who has a dangerous lack of self control. The fact that he was on candid camera I'm sure never even entered his thuggish little noggin. At least not until he spent his horrifying 13 minutes on the other side of the bars.

The cops who lied for him, though, they're a different story. They were not involved in the immediate event, and they had time to come down from whatever oh f*ck adrenaline rush they did have before they had to fill out their reports. They deliberately and intentionally lied, knowing that the truth was on camera. With audio, so they couldn't even claim that he threatened them verbally. Were they counting on the recording having a convenient little accident? That's the only explanation that makes sense.
 
2013-12-12 05:35:53 PM
In other news, the Marion County Sheriff's Facebook page has recently disabled their public comment section. I wonder why?
 
2013-12-12 09:17:10 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: I shudder to think how much police brutality happened before there were cameras everywhere.

Which makes the cops who still do it look awfully stupid.

If I think there's a camera somewhere, I hesitate to pick my nose or scratch my ass (lest that footage end up in some "look at these dorks picking their nose in public" supercut on YouTube), much less slam another person's head into a wall.


Well, you are motivated by the consequence of embarrassment.  There is no motivation by consequence for LEO's.
 
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