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(USA Today)   Pick your headline: A) Realizing the final games of the season are meaningless and his line is as solid as Swiss cheese, Redskins coach protects the health of his franchise QB, or, B) OMG SHANAHAN SNUBS RGIII   (q.usatoday.com) divider line 79
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2013-12-11 03:12:27 PM  

elguerodiablo: I think defenses really adjusted to the read option as well.  Kaepernick is having the same kind of slump.


FWIW, I think there are more holes in Kaepernick as a QB than than Griffin. Kaepernick's passing accuracy and ability to read defenses is inferior to Griffin's, IMO.
 
2013-12-11 03:12:52 PM  

CipollinaFan: elguerodiablo: czetie: Harv72b: I'm gonna go with C) Shanahan wants to know if Cousins is worth signing at his next Offensive Coordinator gig.

^This.

Shanahanigans rode a couple of all-time great QBs to Superb Owls as an OC and HC some mope with more money than sense will pay him and his little son too.

One just hopes it's that Jerry Jones fella.


That I would like to see.
 
2013-12-11 03:15:57 PM  

Shame Us: elguerodiablo: I think defenses really adjusted to the read option as well.  Kaepernick is having the same kind of slump.

FWIW, I think there are more holes in Kaepernick as a QB than than Griffin. Kaepernick's passing accuracy and ability to read defenses is inferior to Griffin's, IMO.


I can see that.  Kaepernick definately plays on a better team and has a much better play caller so that would help cover up more holes in his game.
 
2013-12-11 03:22:14 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: Shanahan in Houston? Not sure if want


On a scale of "Dom Capers" to "zero", how bad could it be?
 
2013-12-11 03:24:02 PM  

eddievercetti: Magorn: Now the fact that I paid $70 for a pair of tickets that had a $150 face value, and If I had waited a few more days could have gotten 100 level seats ($250 face), AND "Ultimate fan Zone" passes (an all you can eat BBQ and meet and greet with the players and cheerleaders before the game)  ($50 face but only offered to season ticket holders of premium seats) AND a parking pass ($30-70 depending on where you park) for $90 total, and the Standing Room Only Tickets in the "Party deck" were being burnt off for less than $10 ea by the professional scalpers?   That's a concern for Danny that all the $9.50 Bud Light he was selling can't fix


[ftrsports.com image 300x296]


Danny is the DC area's version of Mark Cuban, someone who got insanely rich selling a tech company that wasn't really worth even 10% of the purchase price to an old media company with tons of cash who was desperate to get in on the whole dotcom thing. Unlike Cuban however, his subsequent ventures don't reveal any hidden business acumen, so his fortune has steadily declined since its inception (6 flags was a bad investment, the Skins?  Well they ARE still the 2nd most valuable francise all pro-sports, (after the Cowboys ironically) but for how long?   Johhny Rockets? Decent burgers but getting its clock cleaned by Five guys...etc)
 
2013-12-11 03:25:25 PM  

Waldo Pepper: SilentStrider: Shanahan is trying to get fired instead of just quitting. If he's fired, he gets the remaining money on his contract. If he quits, he gets nothing,

But if another teams hires Shanahan to coach don't they have to pick up the final year of his contract?  I was under the impression to get the final pay you have to sit out the remaining years left on your contract.


Depends on the contract, but usually coaches have no offset language, meaning if they are fired the team is on the hook for everything regardless of whether the coach works for another team
 
2013-12-11 03:26:34 PM  

elguerodiablo: Shame Us: elguerodiablo: I think defenses really adjusted to the read option as well.  Kaepernick is having the same kind of slump.

FWIW, I think there are more holes in Kaepernick as a QB than than Griffin. Kaepernick's passing accuracy and ability to read defenses is inferior to Griffin's, IMO.

I can see that.  Kaepernick definately plays on a better team and has a much better play caller so that would help cover up more holes in his game.


It's telling that, when possible, they simplify and don't put the ball in his hands. Their game-winning drive on Sunday, IIRC, didn't involve a pass attempt though they did give him the ball on a designed run once. Obviously the Gore run made that easy, but he was off all day if either he or the receiver was moving. His TD pass to Davis was not well thrown or located - he gunned it for no reason low and away from Davis's body. Davis, to his credit, made a nice catch on it. Most of hisday seemed to consist of staring at Crabtree or Boldin and then either checking down to Miller or throwing an ill-advised pass if they weren't open.
 
2013-12-11 03:28:33 PM  
If Shanahan wanted to get fired immediately, he'd pull a Zorn and run a play deliberately designed to injure his players
 
2013-12-11 03:34:37 PM  

Magorn: eddievercetti: Magorn: Now the fact that I paid $70 for a pair of tickets that had a $150 face value, and If I had waited a few more days could have gotten 100 level seats ($250 face), AND "Ultimate fan Zone" passes (an all you can eat BBQ and meet and greet with the players and cheerleaders before the game)  ($50 face but only offered to season ticket holders of premium seats) AND a parking pass ($30-70 depending on where you park) for $90 total, and the Standing Room Only Tickets in the "Party deck" were being burnt off for less than $10 ea by the professional scalpers?   That's a concern for Danny that all the $9.50 Bud Light he was selling can't fix


[ftrsports.com image 300x296]

Danny is the DC area's version of Mark Cuban, someone who got insanely rich selling a tech company that wasn't really worth even 10% of the purchase price to an old media company with tons of cash who was desperate to get in on the whole dotcom thing. Unlike Cuban however, his subsequent ventures don't reveal any hidden business acumen, so his fortune has steadily declined since its inception (6 flags was a bad investment, the Skins?  Well they ARE still the 2nd most valuable francise all pro-sports, (after the Cowboys ironically) but for how long?   Johhny Rockets? Decent burgers but getting its clock cleaned by Five guys...etc)


Getting the taxpayers to chip in give you a $400 million dollar asset always helps the ROI.
 
2013-12-11 03:34:41 PM  

Nabb1: BKITU: SilentStrider: Shanahan is trying to get fired instead of just quitting. If he's fired, he gets the remaining money on his contract. If he quits, he gets nothing,

[static2.businessinsider.com image 610x425]

"That's what you think, buddy!"

That's the difference between simply being fired and being "fired for cause" under the contract. Al Davis tried to argue he fired Lane Kiffin "for cause", so that he wouldn't have to pay him. In retrospect, it turns out that perhaps just being the sniveling little shiat that Lane Kiffin is should be enough reasons to fire him "for cause."


www.liketotally80s.com
Don't hate on Lane.
 
2013-12-11 03:37:57 PM  

Waldo Pepper: czetie: Waldo Pepper: SilentStrider: Shanahan is trying to get fired instead of just quitting. If he's fired, he gets the remaining money on his contract. If he quits, he gets nothing,

But if another teams hires Shanahan to coach don't they have to pick up the final year of his contract?  I was under the impression to get the final pay you have to sit out the remaining years left on your contract.

I'm sure ESPN would be stupid enough to give him a nice warm seat in the studio for a year.

The man has no on camera personality.


So he's going to the NFL Network.
 
2013-12-11 03:39:42 PM  
Frown on the Redskins not giving 100%:

www.shermanreport.com
 
2013-12-11 03:41:56 PM  

Magorn: eddievercetti: Magorn: Now the fact that I paid $70 for a pair of tickets that had a $150 face value, and If I had waited a few more days could have gotten 100 level seats ($250 face), AND "Ultimate fan Zone" passes (an all you can eat BBQ and meet and greet with the players and cheerleaders before the game)  ($50 face but only offered to season ticket holders of premium seats) AND a parking pass ($30-70 depending on where you park) for $90 total, and the Standing Room Only Tickets in the "Party deck" were being burnt off for less than $10 ea by the professional scalpers?   That's a concern for Danny that all the $9.50 Bud Light he was selling can't fix


[ftrsports.com image 300x296]

Danny is the DC area's version of Mark Cuban, someone who got insanely rich selling a tech company that wasn't really worth even 10% of the purchase price to an old media company with tons of cash who was desperate to get in on the whole dotcom thing. Unlike Cuban however, his subsequent ventures don't reveal any hidden business acumen, so his fortune has steadily declined since its inception (6 flags was a bad investment, the Skins?  Well they ARE still the 2nd most valuable francise all pro-sports, (after the Cowboys ironically) but for how long?   Johhny Rockets? Decent burgers but getting its clock cleaned by Five guys...etc)


At one point one of his companies owned Dick Clark Productions and then resold it later I believe at a hefty profit.   http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2012/09/04/snyders-redzone - sells-dick-clark.html

I'm surprised nobody has made light of last year RGIII had a gf and this year he has a wife. lol
 
2013-12-11 03:44:26 PM  

InmanRoshi: Waldo Pepper: czetie: 

The man has no on camera personality.

So he's going to the NFL Network.


Please coked out Michael Irvin has more on air personality than everyone at CBS, FOX, and ESPN combined.
 
2013-12-11 03:52:05 PM  

InmanRoshi: Magorn: eddievercetti: Magorn: Now the fact that I paid $70 for a pair of tickets that had a $150 face value, and If I had waited a few more days could have gotten 100 level seats ($250 face), AND "Ultimate fan Zone" passes (an all you can eat BBQ and meet and greet with the players and cheerleaders before the game)  ($50 face but only offered to season ticket holders of premium seats) AND a parking pass ($30-70 depending on where you park) for $90 total, and the Standing Room Only Tickets in the "Party deck" were being burnt off for less than $10 ea by the professional scalpers?   That's a concern for Danny that all the $9.50 Bud Light he was selling can't fix


[ftrsports.com image 300x296]

Danny is the DC area's version of Mark Cuban, someone who got insanely rich selling a tech company that wasn't really worth even 10% of the purchase price to an old media company with tons of cash who was desperate to get in on the whole dotcom thing. Unlike Cuban however, his subsequent ventures don't reveal any hidden business acumen, so his fortune has steadily declined since its inception (6 flags was a bad investment, the Skins?  Well they ARE still the 2nd most valuable francise all pro-sports, (after the Cowboys ironically) but for how long?   Johhny Rockets? Decent burgers but getting its clock cleaned by Five guys...etc)

Getting the taxpayers to chip in give you a $400 million dollar asset always helps the ROI.


Funnily enough that's the one thing I CAN'T fault Danny for, but only because he lucked into it.   The Previous owner Jack Kent Cooke (aka "The Squire" -a man who bore an amazing resemblance to Jack Nicholson in looks, attitude and appetites) was looking to  tear down old RFK and put up something new on the same sport  but the DC city council was giving him the run-around while holding their hands out (1 mayor after Barry). So he said "Fark it, I'm a billionaire, and I'm getting old, so I will just build it my damn self with my own money."  That's why the skins are so valuable, the team owner also owns the stadium lock, stock and barrel so they get all the off-season  revenue for the place too and it seats 90,000.

He meant to leave to team to his son but wrote a shiatty will and John Kent Cooke couldn't afford the estate taxes so Danny was able to buy the team.
 
2013-12-11 03:57:09 PM  

Magorn: That's why the skins are so valuable, the team owner also owns the stadium lock, stock and barrel so they get all the off-season revenue for the place too and it seats 90,000.


I'd just like to see DC/the NFL forbid the team from using "Washington" in their name until such time as at least some of the team facilities are located IN Washington.

// and yes, same with the Giants/Jets
 
2013-12-11 05:10:58 PM  

Saiga410: Shame Us: The Vikings should sit Peterson for the rest of the year and the Bucs should sit Glennon, David, Goldson, Jackson and Revis.

If the Bears lose one more they should start Cutler.


If the Lions lose one more, they should cut Schwartz.
 
2013-12-11 06:33:33 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: This is how the Cardinals may very well win their last few games. Seattle and San Francisco may be resting their major player for the playoffs.

The Cardinals always finish strong.


There is no way the Niners rest their stars. They need to be sure they get the 5th seed over Carolina to avoid a 2nd round game at Seattle (assuming Carolina wins their WC game too).
 
2013-12-11 06:55:28 PM  

meanmutton: Saiga410: Shame Us: The Vikings should sit Peterson for the rest of the year and the Bucs should sit Glennon, David, Goldson, Jackson and Revis.

If the Bears lose one more they should start Cutler.

If the Lions lose one more, they should cut Schwartz.


I think they should keep Schwartz, but I'm biased.

If I actually wanted Detroit to get better, I'd say cut him after this year regardless. He's classless and not terribly bright, and he doesn't have the chops to carry out the 'Belicheat Tree' legacy.
 
2013-12-11 07:42:46 PM  

MysticSavage: balki1867: rjakobi: This problem could be solved with Dan Snyder getting a near fatal beating from his shareholders.

Shareholders?  I don't think Dan Snyder can hit himself that hard.

What if we got Danny Heatley to drive him?

/hell, window seat please.


No you deserve a middle seat for that comment. Really really bad joke there...

really really funny though
 
2013-12-11 08:42:41 PM  
RACISM!
 
2013-12-11 08:45:40 PM  

Lost Thought 00: If Shanahan wanted to get fired immediately, he'd pull a Zorn and run a

play deliberately designed to injure his players  three consecutive fake punts trying to catch the team off guard.
 
2013-12-11 08:57:36 PM  
You know who's in the Hall of Fame. Warren Moon.

Keep dancing RGIII...Cunningham approves.
 
2013-12-11 09:05:42 PM  

balki1867: rjakobi: This problem could be solved with Dan Snyder getting a near fatal beating from his shareholders.

Shareholders?  I don't think Dan Snyder can hit himself that hard.


For reals....

pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-12-11 09:09:45 PM  

miltonbabbitt: balki1867: rjakobi: This problem could be solved with Dan Snyder getting a near fatal beating from his shareholders.

Shareholders?  I don't think Dan Snyder can hit himself that hard.

For reals....

[pbs.twimg.com image 568x426]


Wasn't this photo taken when most of the crowd went to get something to eat, hit the head or just go to warm up a bit during halftime and they just weren't back in their seats for the start of the 3rd qtr
 
2013-12-12 03:57:24 AM  

Waldo Pepper: Wasn't this photo taken when most of the crowd went to get something to eat, hit the head or just go to warm up a bit during halftime and they just weren't back in their seats for the start of the 3rd qtr


I was talking to one of my friends at work.  She & her husband scored on-field passes + free tickets to the game so they went, milled around on the field for a bit, stood there for the player introductions, and then went home.  I'm assuming that last part was representative of most Redskins fans, except that maybe a few stuck around for the part of the first quarter.
 
2013-12-12 09:15:13 AM  

Waldo Pepper: miltonbabbitt: balki1867: rjakobi: This problem could be solved with Dan Snyder getting a near fatal beating from his shareholders.

Shareholders?  I don't think Dan Snyder can hit himself that hard.

For reals....

[pbs.twimg.com image 568x426]

Wasn't this photo taken when most of the crowd went to get something to eat, hit the head or just go to warm up a bit during halftime and they just weren't back in their seats for the start of the 3rd qtr


The weather was bad.  I think it was sleet or freezing rain at that moment.  There were definitely some people on the concourse riding it out until play resumed after halftime, but the game saw record low attendance for FedEx field and by the latter part of the 2nd half some estimated only about 1,500 people remained (a large portion of which were Chiefs fans who congregated behind the Chief's sideline).

Either way, historically bad.
 
2013-12-12 10:01:06 AM  

lordjupiter: Waldo Pepper: miltonbabbitt: balki1867: rjakobi: This problem could be solved with Dan Snyder getting a near fatal beating from his shareholders.

Shareholders?  I don't think Dan Snyder can hit himself that hard.

For reals....

[pbs.twimg.com image 568x426]

Wasn't this photo taken when most of the crowd went to get something to eat, hit the head or just go to warm up a bit during halftime and they just weren't back in their seats for the start of the 3rd qtr

The weather was bad.  I think it was sleet or freezing rain at that moment.  There were definitely some people on the concourse riding it out until play resumed after halftime, but the game saw record low attendance for FedEx field and by the latter part of the 2nd half some estimated only about 1,500 people remained (a large portion of which were Chiefs fans who congregated behind the Chief's sideline).

Either way, historically bad.


I watched the game and yes it was bad but that photo was taken at a time when the in bad weather the stand will be empty. That was all I was pointing out.

Even if the stands were filled with the other teams fans the money still goes in Danny boys pockets
 
2013-12-12 02:34:46 PM  

lordjupiter: Waldo Pepper: miltonbabbitt: balki1867: rjakobi: This problem could be solved with Dan Snyder getting a near fatal beating from his shareholders.

Shareholders?  I don't think Dan Snyder can hit himself that hard.

For reals....

[pbs.twimg.com image 568x426]

Wasn't this photo taken when most of the crowd went to get something to eat, hit the head or just go to warm up a bit during halftime and they just weren't back in their seats for the start of the 3rd qtr

The weather was bad.  I think it was sleet or freezing rain at that moment.  There were definitely some people on the concourse riding it out until play resumed after halftime, but the game saw record low attendance for FedEx field and by the latter part of the 2nd half some estimated only about 1,500 people remained (a large portion of which were Chiefs fans who congregated behind the Chief's sideline).

Either way, historically bad.


Pair that with the fact that many fans have to drive 60+ miles to get there on roads that were iced over and yeah a lot of people aren't going to show up to watch.
 
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