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2013-12-11 12:11:58 PM  
I hope I get the timing right!

Damn you flood prevention!!

Cost me a 13-12-11 12:11:10
 
2013-12-11 12:12:04 PM  
no - no it isnt
11 12 2013 ??
YAWN
 
2013-12-11 12:22:28 PM  
They are doing it wrong.
 
2013-12-11 12:22:43 PM  
It is 2013-12-11.  Why does everyone persist in misformatting dates to unsortability?
 
2013-12-11 12:23:40 PM  
Better late than never, I guess.
 
2013-12-11 12:24:13 PM  
December 11th not 11th of December.

You say 1845 Pine Street, not Pine Street 1845
 
2013-12-11 12:24:32 PM  
Everyone knows it's the 8th of Tevet, 5774
 
2013-12-11 12:24:39 PM  
Doesn't count not america. USA USA USA
 
2013-12-11 12:25:02 PM  
Whatever, I will see you December thirteenth of next year.
 
2013-12-11 12:25:08 PM  

TheEndIsNigh: It is 2013-12-11.  Why does everyone persist in misformatting dates to unsortability?


Exactly. That's the only date format that actually makes sense. ISO 8601.
 
2013-12-11 12:26:27 PM  
Apparently a repeat from 12/11/13 (I think)
 
2013-12-11 12:26:42 PM  

TheEndIsNigh: It is 2013-12-11.  Why does everyone persist in misformatting dates to unsortability?



We write it like we say it.
"Today is December eleventh, two-thousand thirteen" = 12/11/13
The romance languages go "Today is the eleventh of December, two-thousand thirteen" = 11/12/13
 
2013-12-11 12:26:51 PM  
I don't get the math at all. Damn metric calendars.
 
2013-12-11 12:27:41 PM  
Goddamn you rest of the world and your stupid date format.
 
2013-12-11 12:28:24 PM  
14-15-16  back at ya.
 
2013-12-11 12:28:47 PM  
Never Forget.
 
2013-12-11 12:29:38 PM  
I prefer the Euro method of recording dates: 13.12.11. It's unambiguous and it is easy to sort chronologically. A machine can do it. As long as the date is unambiguous, I don't care how you write it, though

As an amateur genealogist, ambiguity is a plague. You should always write the date so as to make the month and the day of the month easily distinguishable, let alone the year. If you must abbreviate the year as well, you should be extra unambiguous. It's best to write the date like so:  2013-12-11 That way you can sort by year, month and day without problems.

European rules may annoy, but a lot of them are very logical and practical. I am for adopting the best and leaving the rest. The French, Jews, Germans, Japanese, and other very logical people can go nuts with the rules sometimes (or just get weird), but like the poet said of the little girl,  when they are good, they are very, very good, and when they are bad they are horrid.
 
2013-12-11 12:29:51 PM  
I admit, day/month/year makes more sense than month/day/year. But eff that. USA! USA!
 
2013-12-11 12:30:55 PM  
This will be forever the day that reminds me of the Fallout 4 hoax. The count down was to end today
 
2013-12-11 12:32:31 PM  

reillan: Everyone knows it's the 8th of Tevet, 5774


My computer disagrees, saying: "Today is Setting Orange, the 53rd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3179"

/but seriously, use ISO 8601.
 
2013-12-11 12:32:35 PM  
ISO 8601.  Please?
 
2013-12-11 12:33:21 PM  

brantgoose: when they are good, they are very, very good, and when they are bad they are horrid.


www.classicmoviegab.com
 
2013-12-11 12:35:31 PM  
Another numerical anomaly are the so-called 'Odd Days'. There are only six of these days a century and they occur when every number in the date is an odd number.

It says that there are only six odd-days per century, but that doesn't sound right.

1-1-13
1-3-13
1-5-13
1-7-13
1-9-13
1-11-13
1-13-13
1-15-13
1-17-13
1-19-13
1-21-13
1-23-13
1-25-13
1-27-13
1-29-13

1-31-13

Even if you don't count the dates I italicized because one of the numerals is an even number, that's still 11 odd-dates just in January of this year.
 
2013-12-11 12:36:04 PM  
Wait... Month/Day/Year is a thing? That's terrible. Almost as terrible as four tens!
 
2013-12-11 12:41:55 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Another numerical anomaly are the so-called 'Odd Days'. There are only six of these days a century and they occur when every number in the date is an odd number.

It says that there are only six odd-days per century, but that doesn't sound right.

1-1-13
1-3-13
1-5-13
1-7-13
1-9-13
1-11-13
1-13-13
1-15-13
1-17-13
1-19-13
1-21-13
1-23-13
1-25-13
1-27-13
1-29-13
1-31-13

Even if you don't count the dates I italicized because one of the numerals is an even number, that's still 11 odd-dates just in January of this year.


It's three consecutive odd numbers, and only in European notation.

So March 1st, 2005 (01-03-05), May 3rd, 2007 (03-05-07), July 5th, 2009(05-07-09), September 7th, 2011 (07-09-11), and November 9th, 2013 (09-11-13).
 
2013-12-11 12:44:46 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: December 11th not 11th of December.

You say 1845 Pine Street, not Pine Street 1845


I do say the street name before the number. As does almost everyone I know.
 
2013-12-11 12:45:00 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: December 11th not 11th of December.

You say 1845 Pine Street, not Pine Street 1845


Um.. so you're saying that it only makes sense if it's the word first and then the number... and to prove it you're using a street address where the number comes first and then the word?

11th December ( the 11th day of December ) is surely analogous to 11 Main Street ( the 11th house on Main Street )
 
2013-12-11 12:50:22 PM  

DerAppie: I do say the street name before the number. As does almost everyone I know.


You and almost everyone you know is mentally ill.
 
2013-12-11 12:50:24 PM  
1386771316???  What's so special about that?

/Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:31:30  was the last significant one.
 
2013-12-11 12:50:56 PM  
Hey, at least we're done with that shiat for another century.
 
2013-12-11 12:51:07 PM  
Daily Horoscope(.com)...

Experiments with computers or other technology could reveal a hidden talent you didn't know you had. You could decide to work at developing this skill as it could open doors that increase your income. Friends could help you either with this or other matters. By day's end you'll feel more focused than you were earlier.
 
2013-12-11 12:56:04 PM  
Both Americans and Europeans do it wrong, IMO.

The only logical date formate is Year-Month-Day.

It's 2013-12-11
 
2013-12-11 12:59:03 PM  
Control+F  "12/13/14"

What the FARK is wrong with you people???
 
2013-12-11 01:00:59 PM  
Why the sequential logic of day, month, year should escape anyone, is beyond ludicrous.
Month, day, year is the say/write equivalent of hooked on phonics spelling (see: "Tazer", "surprize").
 
2013-12-11 01:02:52 PM  
Not in the US it isn't.  MMDDYY
 
2013-12-11 01:05:51 PM  
Take your commie ISO date standard and stick it where the.... Oh, sorry.
 
2013-12-11 01:07:01 PM  

ChipNASA: Control+F  "12/13/14"

What the FARK is wrong with you people???


Don't worry t's been covered

CipollinaFan: Whatever, I will see you December thirteenth of next year.

 
2013-12-11 01:07:21 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: December 11th not 11th of December.


You don't remember, remember?
 
2013-12-11 01:07:33 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Both Americans and Europeans do it wrong, IMO.

The only logical date formate is Year-Month-Day.

It's 2013-12-11


Technically you are correct.  Like a folder/file structure.
 
2013-12-11 01:10:36 PM  
I prefer and use 2013.12.11 as my chosen format because it leaves no ambiguity. I have to note versions of documents at various stages of editing and layout in my work and "FileNAMEHEREedited131211.doc" works a charm.

My clocks are on 24 hour time as well, particularly at this time of the year when 6:30 AM and PM are full dark.
 
2013-12-11 01:15:56 PM  

barefoot in the head: Why the sequential logic of day, month, year should escape anyone, is beyond ludicrous.
Month, day, year is the say/write equivalent of hooked on phonics spelling (see: "Tazer", "surprize").


The sequential logic is year, month, day. Starting from the largest suit and moving down in scale, like humans do for every other system of measure.


Think by analogy of telling someone the time. If we did like our date format, an American would give the Minute first, then the Second, then the Hour. A European would give the Second first, then the Minute, then the Hour. Both ways would be ridiculous and illogical.

 
2013-12-11 01:16:03 PM  
I'm sad that Fallout 4 isn't being announced today.
 
2013-12-11 01:18:07 PM  
"Largest unit and moving downward" that should read.
 
2013-12-11 01:19:26 PM  
31.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-12-11 01:20:33 PM  
I was hoping for something closer to a 36-26-36 myself.
 
2013-12-11 01:21:44 PM  
Dunno about you, but my calendar doesn't says 2013. Not that a good chunk of the world doesn't seem to still be in 13, but hey.

/the human fascination with numbers, especially those they created themselves, fascinates me
 
2013-12-11 01:21:44 PM  
A lot of dates are actually stored as UTC as decimal values these days so you're all wrong.  Everything else is just a format string.
 
2013-12-11 01:31:39 PM  
I can't wait until we get out of the "omg, this date looks cool" era that is the beginning of a century.
 
2013-12-11 01:42:45 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: We write it like we say it.
"Today is December eleventh, two-thousand thirteen" = 12/11/13
The romance languages go "Today is the eleventh of December, two-thousand thirteen" = 11/12/13


Well, there's your problem. Writing and talking are two different forms of communication. You most likely talk in run-on sentences as well. Also, I seriously doubt you include the year when talking.

Always start with the largest applicable unit, and work down. Year/month/date. Feet/inches. Pounds/ounces.
 
2013-12-11 01:50:24 PM  

brantgoose: I prefer the Euro method of recording dates: 13.12.11. It's unambiguous and it is easy to sort chronologically. A machine can do it. As long as the date is unambiguous, I don't care how you write it, though

As an amateur genealogist, ambiguity is a plague. You should always write the date so as to make the month and the day of the month easily distinguishable, let alone the year. If you must abbreviate the year as well, you should be extra unambiguous. It's best to write the date like so:  2013-12-11 That way you can sort by year, month and day without problems.

European rules may annoy, but a lot of them are very logical and practical. I am for adopting the best and leaving the rest. The French, Jews, Germans, Japanese, and other very logical people can go nuts with the rules sometimes (or just get weird), but like the poet said of the little girl,  when they are good, they are very, very good, and when they are bad they are horrid.


Why can't you sort by year, month, or day if its is 2013-12-11, or 2013-11-12, or 12-11-2013, or 11-12-2013, or 11-2013-12, or 12-2013-11 as long as you keep the placement static?
 
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