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2013-12-11 02:58:15 PM

Dwight_Yeast: They didn't put "speed bumps" in; they installed markers BETWEEN lanes which you can feel when you run over them at speed. They're there for distracted/sleepy drivers, and they do save lives.


Yes, which if they caused him a problem means he wasn't bothering with such a silly thing as keeping it in the lane.
 
2013-12-11 03:16:19 PM
Life imitates art imitates life...

The bumps were there because it was a drag racing area by youths most likely inspired by the Paul Walker movies, so fittingly, their fandom of his irresponsible movies led to his death by having speed bumps installed to counter their mimicking.
 
2013-12-11 03:20:38 PM

T.rex: Life imitates art imitates life...

The bumps were there because it was a drag racing area by youths most likely inspired by the Paul Walker movies, so fittingly, their fandom of his irresponsible movies led to his death by having speed bumps installed to counter their mimicking.


It's going to be a laugh riot when an actual dinosaur comments on your comment and the comment subsequently flies off the screen in fear of a large dinosaur and the comment then pierces your brain.
 
2013-12-11 03:28:31 PM
What's the difference between Paul Walker and Ryan Dunn?  About 30 percentage points on Rotten Tomatoes.
 
2013-12-11 03:29:35 PM

Bruce Campbell: Dwight_Yeast: Glitchwerks: No one has mentioned whether or not the traction control was on.

Super cars will save your ass with the traction control on.

Turn it off only when you are on a race track.

The Carrera GT has traction control, but not of the type that is going to save you much when you get it far out of shape.       http://www.autoweek.com/article/20131201/carnews/131209996


Yeah thats one article I was looking for, most traction control doesn't do a whole lot to fix issues and people act like it will save you all the time. Some traction control just applies controlled braking and doesn't help, other uses mechanics to grip the axle or to use the motor to slow it down which work the best.

What I find interesting is the 'black box' event recorder has not been released, seems that would be the only way to determine their speed since with this type of body/chassis the police would have very little experience with and could not give a correct estimate of speed.
 
2013-12-11 03:45:06 PM
I can enjoy the results without concerning myself with the cause.
 
2013-12-11 03:49:29 PM
Racecar?
Are you serious?
This is what we are talking about, right?
autopixx.de
it weight 1.4 tonns, has doors you can open, windows you can open electricaly, and so on, and no mandatory etinguisher, roll-bar,...
It may be less bling than other porches, but still more bling than racecar
 
2013-12-11 03:52:09 PM
The pictures I've seen make it look like the street was in a low traffic industrial park. You know the type with a bunch of massive low buildings with nothing but loading docks for trucks and otherwise nice manicured commercial properties with roads throughout.

Actually seemed like a pretty good place to do a burn out for a quarter mile and have a little fun.

I say this because I would imagine every red blooded american male has done this themselves or been in a car with a buddy who has floored it on an otherwise empty street just for the hell of it. It's hard for me to see this as really reckless behavior and instead just really bad luck.
 
2013-12-11 03:58:30 PM

On-Off: Racecar?
Are you serious?
This is what we are talking about, right?
[autopixx.de image 700x583]
it weight 1.4 tonns, has doors you can open, windows you can open electricaly, and so on, and no mandatory etinguisher, roll-bar,...
It may be less bling than other porches, but still more bling than racecar


Fine, it's an assault weapon.
 
2013-12-11 04:12:05 PM
maybe the teenage males of California engineered his death so he wouldn't take all their 16 year old girlfriends
 
2013-12-11 04:20:42 PM

On-Off: Racecar?
Are you serious?
This is what we are talking about, right?
[autopixx.de image 700x583]
it weight 1.4 tonns, has doors you can open, windows you can open electricaly, and so on, and no mandatory etinguisher, roll-bar,...
It may be less bling than other porches, but still more bling than racecar


Why did you use a picture of the tarted up Gemballa tuner version?
 
2013-12-11 04:29:20 PM

Flappyhead: You're son was an idiot and deserved to die in precisely that fashion.


It's contagious!
 
2013-12-11 04:32:14 PM

Glitchwerks: Why did you use a picture of the tarted up Gemballa tuner version?


Google image search...    didn't know what I was doing. This is ugly.

R.A.Danny: Fine, it's an assault weapon.


do magasine capacity restrictons aply, then?
 
2013-12-11 04:33:50 PM
I mean "restriction". Farking keyboard
 
2013-12-11 05:01:40 PM

On-Off: magasine


I think you misspelled "Clip"
 
2013-12-11 05:31:22 PM

ModernPrimitive01: maybe the teenage males of California engineered his death so he wouldn't take all their 16 year old girlfriends


R. Kelly is still alive and well (unfortunately)
 
2013-12-11 05:41:41 PM

indarwinsshadow: bdub77: acronym: yes, they were driving like assholes.  However, pisses me off that my town spent millions to fix a road so it is perfectly smooth and then put in speed bumps every 1/4 mile.

You could always do what my town did. Build wide smooth 4-lane roads with a speed limit of 55 and then suddenly lower it to 45 and station cops at the speed limit change.

/the town also lowered several 45mph roads to 35mph and now they camp out there too
//f*cking cops

[t3.gstatic.com image 256x192]


Oh. Boo hoo. Boo hoo.

If you want a private race track, build it yourself jackhole.

//f*cking people who drive too fast.


Missed the point completely.  It's not that I drive faster than the posted speed limit that was determined in 1955, it's that they spent a lot of money to remove natural obstacles and then built in their own...  The potholes did a better job of slowing down traffic and were easier on my suspension.
 
2013-12-11 06:07:00 PM
Oh please.

Those things are on highways all over America.

If they could really cause a fast moving car to hydroplane there would have been law suits over this years ago.
 
2013-12-11 06:11:23 PM

CommonName2: namegoeshere: So how much does one pay for a car that sucks this badly?
Whatever it was, he got burned.


You are going to hell.
 
2013-12-11 06:12:51 PM

Clutch2013: No, it has traction control.


Bruce Campbell: The Carrera GT has traction control, but not of the type that is going to save you much when you get it far out of shape.


Ah, I stand corrected.  I could have sworn that Jeremy Clarkson said in his review that it had none, which was one of the big differences between it and the regular Carrera.

The important thing is that it was a car designed to have a traction control system keep it in line, as pretty much all high-end sports cars are these days.
 
2013-12-11 06:24:15 PM
I know a good deal about cars, but I have no experience with mid-engined cars like this. Can anyone edumacate me on how that would effect handling? I would think having the motor amidships would make it more balanced and... equal.

But from what I've seen/heard about the GT is that it's a motherfarker to handle. Why?
 
2013-12-11 07:00:53 PM

steamingpile: Pocket Ninja: It's funny what small road bumps will do when some asshole displays a criminal disregard of any safe speed limit.

And I thought they were only going 45mph according to most sources?


that's been repeated over and over on Fark, but I've yet to see a source for that. The 45 mph thing came from the speed limit sign, not the speed they were going.
 
2013-12-11 07:09:03 PM
 
2013-12-11 07:54:50 PM

darch: I know a good deal about cars, but I have no experience with mid-engined cars like this. Can anyone edumacate me on how that would effect handling? I would think having the motor amidships would make it more balanced and... equal.

But from what I've seen/heard about the GT is that it's a motherfarker to handle. Why?


It should make it better, and my understanding (mostly gleaned from middle-aged men shouting on Top Gear) is that the 97 other flavors of Carrera (Porchse loves to build infinite variates of the same car) are great and handle very well, as they have advanced traction control systems which keep the tires on the road and everything in line.

The best way I can explain the problem is an analogy to aircraft: in traditional aircraft, a plane is aerodynamic enough that it becomes a glider if the engine fails.  But with the advent of computers and computer-aided design, we build things like the Stealth Bomber, which will fall out the sky if it didn't have all its computers in check.

Because this particular car was built to be kept in check by its control system, and this one instead had a very minimal control system which was easy to shut off (as it was really built to be a track car) once you lost control, nothing the driver could do would bring it back under control.  If he'd done whatever he was doing in a traditional car, he stood a good chance of getting it back under control by using the brakes/acceleration/steering.

Two other, unrelated things which come to mind: traditionally, Porche's main car, the 911, had its engine behind the rear wheels, which gave the car a very weird weight distribution.  If you didn't know exactly how to control it, the entire back end would lose traction and you'd crash the car.  They actually had a reputation for being very dangerous according to some, while others loved them.  Porsche slowly moved the 911 engine inboard and I believe it's now a traditional rear-engined car (with the engine between the wheels).

The other was something my father told me years ago was that back in the 1960s, people realized you could take the engine from a Porsche and put it into a VW Beetle with little work.  As many Porsches were totaled it was possible to get the engines, and the two companies are so intertwined its funny it's taken them so long to merge.  The pioneers who did this were geniuses as you suddenly had a real sleeper, a Porsche that looked like a Bug.  They were also suddenly dead as they didn't take into account the fact that the VW transmission, suspension and most importantly brakes couldn't take the power of the Porcshe engine.
 
2013-12-11 08:02:52 PM

farkingismybusiness: machoprogrammer: Shut the fark up about it already, people. I am so sick of Paul Walker crap.

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i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-11 08:07:31 PM
He's still dead.....
 
2013-12-11 08:59:59 PM

machoprogrammer: Shut the fark up about it already, people. I am so sick of Paul Walker crap.


And yet here you are in a Paul Walker death thread.

He was a rich (albeit generous) guy who you didn't even know that was killed driving his car at insanely unsafe high speeds.

And apparently one of the few people left who aren't aware that he wasn't driving.
 
2013-12-11 09:02:42 PM
Maybe the dipshiat owner of the car shouldn't have been speeding and had actual tires on the vehicle.
 
2013-12-11 09:37:25 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Maybe the dipshiat owner of the car shouldn't have been speeding and had actual tires on the vehicle.


Maybe but this is a celebrity news story/non-story that has legs!

Expect six more weeks of this shiat, unless there's another school shooting.
 
2013-12-11 09:37:36 PM

Dwight_Yeast: The other was something my father told me years ago was that back in the 1960s, people realized you could take the engine from a Porsche and put it into a VW Beetle with little work. As many Porsches were totaled it was possible to get the engines, and the two companies are so intertwined its funny it's taken them so long to merge. The pioneers who did this were geniuses as you suddenly had a real sleeper, a Porsche that looked like a Bug.


Totally true. My dad did this. Crappy lil nondescript VW bug that would fly like a bat out of hell. He liked to use it to transport alcoholic beverages although the cops took a dim view on the kind of stuff he was transporting.
 
2013-12-11 10:49:17 PM
So the car was going 90 and drifted outside its lane but it was the road bumps that caused the accident?
 
2013-12-11 10:52:06 PM
Just watch fast 6. How long was that runway?
 
2013-12-11 11:20:06 PM

Pocket Ninja: It's funny what small road bumps will do when some asshole displays a criminal disregard of any safe speed limit.


And equips his speeding roadster with slicks. But, of course, if the parents can establish even a tiny shred of doubt, they can then work up a nice payday.
 
2013-12-11 11:42:00 PM

Flappyhead: You're son was an idiot and deserved to die in precisely that fashion.


Except for the fact he was not driving.
 
2013-12-12 01:12:37 AM
Speed Bumps are there to deter dumbasses (like Paul Walker) from ass-tearing down the road (like Paul Walker did).

If anything, I'm glad the speed bumps were there. If he was going that fast, he cold have run over a kid.
 
2013-12-12 01:31:41 AM
Why didn't he just pause the car, like they used to do in Dukes of Hazzard, so he could have stepped out?

/Whut
 
2013-12-12 01:55:35 AM
Uh, no, doucebaggery caused the death of your loved one.
 
2013-12-12 02:32:21 AM
All this talk about Bots Dots and not one mention of 'drive by Braille' which is the whole purpose of Bots Dots.

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2013-12-12 02:37:54 AM

FormlessOne: Pocket Ninja: It's funny what small road bumps will do when some asshole displays a criminal disregard of any safe speed limit.

And equips his speeding roadster with slicks. But, of course, if the parents can establish even a tiny shred of doubt, they can then work up a nice payday.


Porsche is going to end up paying out; they've had to pay in suits over this model before.

What I'm worried is that they'll sue CalDOT or the manufacturer and end up getting the road dots banned. They're really freaking useful and like I said they do save lives.
 
2013-12-12 04:04:09 AM
They could have blamed reckless driving, could have maintained goodwill for their movie star relative, could have turned that into a lasting legacy with PSAs, a foundation, etc. Instead, what do they do? Blame the road.

What arseholes.
 
2013-12-12 04:46:25 AM

rzrwiresunrise: They could have blamed reckless driving, could have maintained goodwill for their movie star relative, could have turned that into a lasting legacy with PSAs, a foundation, etc. Instead, what do they do? Blame the road.

What arseholes.


Pause....take a deep breath.  Remember, everything you read on TMZ is as close to a lie as they can be without being sued.

The family hasn't said anything.

Sources close to Paul's family tell TMZ ... the family has been in touch with stunt experts who have gone to the crash site and come back with what they believe is a solid theory -- a speeding car that hits the plastic markers -- called Botts' Dots -- will hydroplane, causing the driver to lose control.

Someone who IS NOT Paul's family told TMZ that SOMEONE ELSE told the family that the Botts Dots could have caused *a speeding car* to go out of control.

Nobody from the family has stated a belief.
Even if the Botts Dots played a role, the stunt experts (allegedly) still say a 'speeding car' must be involved.
Nobody is blaming the little reflectors for killing the drivers, but it is a possible explanation for something that might have been a factor, in addition to speeding.
 
2013-12-12 06:21:58 AM

Old_Chief_Scott: We had something similar to this in San Diego recently.

The parents of a young man killed in a crash actually said that if the road didn't have dips in it their boy would not have lost control while doing in excess of 100 miles per hour. I will admit to taking those dips at a speed slightly higher than the posted limit but that's only so I can watch my wife's boobs jiggle.


Wow... you too?
 
2013-12-12 07:04:53 AM

Bruce Campbell: namegoeshere: So how much does one pay for a car that sucks this badly?

It's a driver's car.  When there is a fark up, the fault lies entirely with the driver.  The car far from sucks and is intended to engage every aspect of driving skill. The driver thought he didn't suck, and I am not saying he does, at driving 911s, that is.  I just don't think he had enough experience with this car, as shown by putting stickier tires on it and not keeping the MFG suggested tires on the car, and then did things he should not have done in that car, and I think it was overconfidence in skills from driving other cars that resulted in this death.


No offense, but if your car hints a dot in the road and careens into a tree and catches on fire, it sucks.  Yeah, its the drivers fault, but my mother is a HORRIBLE driver, and she has never hit a speed dot and had her plymouth voyager careen into a tree.
 
2013-12-12 07:36:26 AM
He was driving too fast the moment he left the garage.
 
2013-12-12 07:57:39 AM

TV's Vinnie: Speed Bumps are there to deter dumbasses (like Paul Walker) from ass-tearing down the road (like Paul Walker did).

If anything, I'm glad the speed bumps were there. If he was going that fast, he cold have run over a kid.


These weren't speed bumps. They were lane markers.
 
2013-12-12 08:08:41 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: rzrwiresunrise: They could have blamed reckless driving, could have maintained goodwill for their movie star relative, could have turned that into a lasting legacy with PSAs, a foundation, etc. Instead, what do they do? Blame the road.

What arseholes.

Pause....take a deep breath.  Remember, everything you read on TMZ is as close to a lie as they can be without being sued.

The family hasn't said anything.

Sources close to Paul's family tell TMZ ... the family has been in touch with stunt experts who have gone to the crash site and come back with what they believe is a solid theory -- a speeding car that hits the plastic markers -- called Botts' Dots -- will hydroplane, causing the driver to lose control.

Someone who IS NOT Paul's family told TMZ that SOMEONE ELSE told the family that the Botts Dots could have caused *a speeding car* to go out of control.

Nobody from the family has stated a belief.
Even if the Botts Dots played a role, the stunt experts (allegedly) still say a 'speeding car' must be involved.
Nobody is blaming the little reflectors for killing the drivers, but it is a possible explanation for something that might have been a factor, in addition to speeding.


When driving a race car, the only "accident" is a meteor coming out of the sky and hitting your car. Anything else is driver error.
 
2013-12-12 08:13:26 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Porsche is going to end up paying out; they've had to pay in suits over this model before.


I don't think it's that likely if they weren't using the MFG recommended tires, and even less so were on racing rather than DOT approved tires.

I sound fat: No offense, but if your car hints a dot in the road and careens into a tree and catches on fire, it sucks.  Yeah, its the drivers fault, but my mother is a HORRIBLE driver, and she has never hit a speed dot and had her plymouth voyager careen into a tree.


I wouldn't buy into the dot theory in the first place.  Was this Plymouth Voyager driving around a corner at well above speed and was your mother hooning when she hit that dot?
 
2013-12-12 08:45:07 AM

SDRR: When driving a race car, the only "accident" is a meteor coming out of the sky and hitting your car. Anything else is driver error.


Henry Surtees would disagree with you if he were still alive.  So does Felipe Massa's eye.
 
2013-12-12 09:41:32 AM

EJ25T: rickythepenguin: blunttrauma: If I dropped that kind of coin on a sports car, it better rotate like Jenna Jameson.

carolla also talked about the car, i think how noted professional race car driver Jay Leno spun his Carerra out 3 times at some race.

i thinkt he story Rogan told was this friend of his drove it at a track, but cut the session short and said afterwards that the car was too dangerous.  something like that.  dude was like, "nope, not me, fark that car, yo."

Walter Rohrl (Porsche test driver and one of the greatest Group B drivers ever) said during wet-weather testing of the Carerra GT that the car absolutely frightened him.

Again, a man who did this successfully for a living:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyVHj3sHVHQ

said the Carerra GT scared him.



No, he didn't say that.
 
2013-12-12 10:07:27 AM

John Buck 41: machoprogrammer: Shut the fark up about it already, people. I am so sick of Paul Walker crap.

And yet here you are in a Paul Walker death thread.

He was a rich (albeit generous) guy who you didn't even know that was killed driving his car at insanely unsafe high speeds.

And apparently one of the few people left who aren't aware that he wasn't driving.


I know he wasn't driving, but his friend was and he could've told his friend to stop doing something so stupid.
 
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