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(TMZ)   Paul Walker's family believes small road bumps designed for safety killed their son   (tmz.com) divider line 166
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2013-12-11 08:59:13 AM
We used to call them pedestrians.
 
2013-12-11 09:09:55 AM
It's funny what small road bumps will do when some asshole displays a criminal disregard of any safe speed limit.
 
2013-12-11 09:17:06 AM
So how much does one pay for a car that sucks this badly?
 
2013-12-11 09:21:09 AM

Bareefer Obonghit: We used to call them pedestrians.


Pedestrians walking at 80 mph caused my windshield to break - it wasn't me.
 
2013-12-11 09:47:03 AM
I don't know- I travel over lots of speed bumps, and in a very poor handling SUV. Never had any problems.

I wonder what the difference cold be?
 
2013-12-11 10:03:00 AM
The Obama administration obviously got to them after those hellfires hit.
 
2013-12-11 10:04:21 AM
And here we all thought it was the tree and fire...
 
2013-12-11 10:05:18 AM

Pocket Ninja: It's funny what small road bumps will do when some asshole displays a criminal disregard of any safe speed limit.


Concise, comprehensive, conclusive.

We're done here.
 
2013-12-11 10:07:46 AM
You're son was an idiot and deserved to die in precisely that fashion.
 
2013-12-11 10:08:55 AM
We had something similar to this in San Diego recently.

The parents of a young man killed in a crash actually said that if the road didn't have dips in it their boy would not have lost control while doing in excess of 100 miles per hour. I will admit to taking those dips at a speed slightly higher than the posted limit but that's only so I can watch my wife's boobs jiggle.
 
2013-12-11 10:11:11 AM
yes, they were driving like assholes.  However, pisses me off that my town spent millions to fix a road so it is perfectly smooth and then put in speed bumps every 1/4 mile.
 
2013-12-11 10:11:50 AM
www.relativelyinteresting.com

I'd say he was up for one of these
 
2013-12-11 10:11:52 AM

Brick-House: And here we all thought it was the tree and fire...


Magnesium burns too
 
2013-12-11 10:12:30 AM
Actually, subby, you left part of it out. Of course, it doesn't have the sensationalistic 'pop' when you include the full sentence:

Paul Walker died after the speeding Porsche in which he was riding hydroplaned on reflective plastic markers in the street ... at least that's what his family and accident reconstruction experts believe.

I know, I know... It's cooler when you can paint the family as a bunch of amateur schmucks who don't know what they're talking about, right? BTW, the "Botts' Dots" thing has been a theory since the first day.
 
2013-12-11 10:16:10 AM

acronym: yes, they were driving like assholes.  However, pisses me off that my town spent millions to fix a road so it is perfectly smooth and then put in speed bumps every 1/4 mile.


You could always do what my town did. Build wide smooth 4-lane roads with a speed limit of 55 and then suddenly lower it to 45 and station cops at the speed limit change.

/the town also lowered several 45mph roads to 35mph and now they camp out there too
//f*cking cops
 
2013-12-11 10:17:09 AM

namegoeshere: So how much does one pay for a car that sucks this badly?


It's a driver's car.  When there is a fark up, the fault lies entirely with the driver.  The car far from sucks and is intended to engage every aspect of driving skill. The driver thought he didn't suck, and I am not saying he does, at driving 911s, that is.  I just don't think he had enough experience with this car, as shown by putting stickier tires on it and not keeping the MFG suggested tires on the car, and then did things he should not have done in that car, and I think it was overconfidence in skills from driving other cars that resulted in this death.
 
2013-12-11 10:18:07 AM

bdub77: acronym: yes, they were driving like assholes.  However, pisses me off that my town spent millions to fix a road so it is perfectly smooth and then put in speed bumps every 1/4 mile.

You could always do what my town did. Build wide smooth 4-lane roads with a speed limit of 55 and then suddenly lower it to 45 and station cops at the speed limit change.

/the town also lowered several 45mph roads to 35mph and now they camp out there too
//f*cking cops


t3.gstatic.com


Oh. Boo hoo. Boo hoo.

If you want a private race track, build it yourself jackhole.

//f*cking people who drive too fast.
 
2013-12-11 10:18:28 AM
I think these dots are not really speed bumps - just the reminders to keep you in your lane (although its hard to tell from the picture). Plus to quote from the article:

"a car going speeds approaching 90 MPH will lose traction after hitting a series of Botts' Dots "

I guess this "proves" the driver was driving in an unsafe manner.
 
2013-12-11 10:20:02 AM

indarwinsshadow: bdub77: acronym: yes, they were driving like assholes.  However, pisses me off that my town spent millions to fix a road so it is perfectly smooth and then put in speed bumps every 1/4 mile.

You could always do what my town did. Build wide smooth 4-lane roads with a speed limit of 55 and then suddenly lower it to 45 and station cops at the speed limit change.

/the town also lowered several 45mph roads to 35mph and now they camp out there too
//f*cking cops

[t3.gstatic.com image 256x192]


Oh. Boo hoo. Boo hoo.

If you want a private race track, build it yourself jackhole.

//f*cking people who drive too fast.


welcometofark.jpg
 
2013-12-11 10:23:40 AM
These people are in mourning.  Ignore them for now and let them grieve.
 
2013-12-11 10:28:34 AM

YetAnotherTacitus: I think these dots are not really speed bumps - just the reminders to keep you in your lane (although its hard to tell from the picture). Plus to quote from the article:

"a car going speeds approaching 90 MPH will lose traction after hitting a series of Botts' Dots "

I guess this "proves" the driver was driving in an unsafe manner.


Those dots are in Dallas too, as lane markers. Never knew what they were called and I lived there for 4 years.

They made getting over into another lane interesting, but I never took them at 90 mph.

I don't understand. If the driver wanted to drive stupidly/recklessly (and assuming Walker didn't encourage him), why didn't they just go rent a track* to turn the car loose? Why get stupid on surface streets?

*- or whatever famous/rich people do to drive cars at blistering speed
 
2013-12-11 10:28:52 AM

Pocket Ninja: It's funny what small road bumps will do when some asshole displays a criminal disregard of any safe speed limit.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
2013-12-11 10:30:54 AM

mr_a: I don't know- I travel over lots of speed bumps, and in a very poor handling SUV. Never had any problems.

I wonder what the difference cold be?


Well, considering that your "poor handling SUV" has more than 2 or 3 inches of total ground clearance? I'd say that you'll be OK.
 
2013-12-11 10:31:29 AM
Shut the fark up about it already, people. I am so sick of Paul Walker crap.

He was a rich (albeit generous) guy who you didn't even know that was killed driving his car at insanely unsafe high speeds. Boo hoo. I doubt more than half the people mourning even cared about him until he died.
 
2013-12-11 10:31:49 AM

Mikey1969: Actually, subby, you left part of it out. Of course, it doesn't have the sensationalistic 'pop' when you include the full sentence:

Paul Walker died after the speeding Porsche in which he was riding hydroplaned on reflective plastic markers in the street ... at least that's what his family and accident reconstruction experts believe.

I know, I know... It's cooler when you can paint the family as a bunch of amateur schmucks who don't know what they're talking about, right? BTW, the "Botts' Dots" thing has been a theory since the first day.


What do those  accident reconstruction experts say about the speed the vehicle was moving at that allowed it to start hydoplaning in the first place?   And continue hydroplaning on the other three tires that did not come in contact with the road markers?   Does the family of Roger Rodas concur?
 
2013-12-11 10:37:32 AM

Mikey1969: Actually, subby, you left part of it out. Of course, it doesn't have the sensationalistic 'pop' when you include the full sentence:

Paul Walker died after the speeding Porsche in which he was riding hydroplaned on reflective plastic markers in the street ... at least that's what his family and accident reconstruction experts believe.

I know, I know... It's cooler when you can paint the family as a bunch of amateur schmucks who don't know what they're talking about, right? BTW, the "Botts' Dots" thing has been a theory since the first day.


The dots were only an issue because of the speed involved.
 
2013-12-11 10:40:52 AM
It is a shame he died but what killed him was letting a friend drive his supercar like an ass on regular streets. If you want to drive your supercar like an ass go to a track where there are not curbs or trees to run into.
 
2013-12-11 10:42:42 AM

Seequinn: What do those  accident reconstruction experts say about the speed the vehicle was moving at that allowed it to start hydoplaning in the first place?


I cannot wait for these reconstruction experts to explain how metal & plastic objects cause "hydroplaning." Sudden and unexpected loss of grip, especially so if you are using racing tires, maybe, but unless these also exude some form of liquid, this statement makes them sound dumb.
 
2013-12-11 10:42:45 AM
Little bumps didn't kill them, Isaac Newton did.
 
2013-12-11 10:43:21 AM
You son made bad choices all along.

Just because you watch a movie about driving fast doesn't mean you can do it. And don't do it in a car that won't protect you from a crash. And don't drive that car in an environment that risks that kind of crash.

I was young and stupid. Now I'm just stupid. How I've lived this long, I'll never know.
 
2013-12-11 10:46:45 AM
Hahahahhahaahahahaha!

Thanks for the laughs, Paul Walker's family. (yes, I feel sorry for them, but that's legitimately funny)
 
2013-12-11 10:47:06 AM

Seequinn: What do those  accident reconstruction experts say about the speed the vehicle was moving at that allowed it to start hydoplaning in the first place?   And continue hydroplaning on the other three tires that did not come in contact with the road markers?   Does the family of Roger Rodas concur?


Probably that it was going fast enough for this to happen in the first place.

MFAWG: The dots were only an issue because of the speed involved.


That added nothing to the conversation, but thanks.
 
2013-12-11 10:49:24 AM
I know it's been said but if the idiot had been driving the speed limit they would be alive today. Assholes.
 
2013-12-11 10:50:48 AM

tzzhc4: It is a shame he died but what killed him was letting a friend drive his supercar like an ass on regular streets. If you want to drive your supercar like an ass go to a track where there are not curbs or trees to run into.


And you can kill yourself without endangering others who are out minding their own business.

blunttrauma: Little bumps didn't kill them, Isaac Newton did.


That bastard!
 
2013-12-11 10:51:02 AM

tzzhc4: It is a shame he died but what killed him was letting a friend drive his supercar like an ass on regular streets. If you want to drive your supercar like an ass go to a track where there are not curbs or trees to run into.



His friend was both the owner AND the driver of the car- Paul was just the passenger. We have no way to know if he encouraged his friend to drive like an ass or was screaming for him to slow down. Can't blame the victim in this case...
 
2013-12-11 10:52:53 AM

Pocket Ninja: It's funny what small road bumps will do when some asshole displays a criminal disregard of any safe speed limit.


GOOD
 
2013-12-11 10:55:01 AM
Ha. If the "experts" truly believe those small bumps caused the accident, then it's been A Miracle on 34th St. all over the country for a long time.

BS theory is BS.

The family should be lecturing others on the dangers of speeding and reckless driving, not making up stuff that will go hand in hand to kill others later on by poor example, i.e., "Duh, da walker's family said I can go 120 on any street, but look out for the small road bump dealies!"
 
2013-12-11 10:57:44 AM
I hit a manhole that had been raised in preparation for repaving and it caused me to go out of control and hit a pole, nearly killing two of my friends.

/so I'm getting a kick
//why yes I was speeding like a dickhead.
 
2013-12-11 10:57:48 AM

Mikey1969: Actually, subby, you left part of it out. Of course, it doesn't have the sensationalistic 'pop' when you include the full sentence:

Paul Walker died after the speeding Porsche in which he was riding hydroplaned on reflective plastic markers in the street ... at least that's what his family and accident reconstruction experts believe.

I know, I know... It's cooler when you can paint the family as a bunch of amateur schmucks who don't know what they're talking about, right? BTW, the "Botts' Dots" thing has been a theory since the first day.


So, are these markers causing accidents everywhere?
 
2013-12-11 11:05:07 AM

someonelse: Mikey1969: Actually, subby, you left part of it out. Of course, it doesn't have the sensationalistic 'pop' when you include the full sentence:

Paul Walker died after the speeding Porsche in which he was riding hydroplaned on reflective plastic markers in the street ... at least that's what his family and accident reconstruction experts believe.

I know, I know... It's cooler when you can paint the family as a bunch of amateur schmucks who don't know what they're talking about, right? BTW, the "Botts' Dots" thing has been a theory since the first day.

So, are these markers causing accidents everywhere?


Probably not, since the car involved is extremely touchy. Jesus, this shiat was all covered last week. The Porsche is basically a race car with a price tag on the window. If you read the article, you'd notice that. If you'd paid attention last week, you'd know that.
 
2013-12-11 11:06:41 AM
"a car going speeds approaching 90 MPH will lose traction after hitting a series of Botts' Dots "

And colliding with a tree is generally fatal in a car going at speeds approaching 90 MPH, but I still don't blame the tree.

Nobody deserves to die in a horrible car wreck, but some people sure don't try to make it so they don't.
 
2013-12-11 11:09:07 AM

havana_joe: Can't blame the victim in this case...


Oh yeah? Just watch 'em...
 
2013-12-11 11:11:53 AM

havana_joe: His friend was both the owner AND the driver of the car- Paul was just the passenger. We have no way to know if he encouraged his friend to drive like an ass or was screaming for him to slow down



adam carolla said of the unfortunate incident, "it must have sucked to be Paul Walker, because every time he got into someone's car, you know that person felt the need to impress him;  'gotcher seatbelt on?  i wanna show you what this baby can do!'  For all we know he was probably begging the driver to slow down."

joe rogan was also talking about it, moreso the car.  he has a professional driver friend that, if i get it correctly, will not drive that car.  says it is too powerful and the suspension too raw (my words, not his).  i guess the mid-engine design has a totally different distribution of weight that, if you aren't an experienced driver, the turning / distribution of weight coupled with the racing suspension, is just a firecracker of a car.

dunno.
 
2013-12-11 11:15:43 AM

blunttrauma: Little bumps didn't kill them, Isaac Newton did.


That guy has killed more people that Dihydrogen Monoxide.  Study it out.
 
2013-12-11 11:20:54 AM

bdub77: indarwinsshadow: bdub77: acronym: yes, they were driving like assholes.  However, pisses me off that my town spent millions to fix a road so it is perfectly smooth and then put in speed bumps every 1/4 mile.

You could always do what my town did. Build wide smooth 4-lane roads with a speed limit of 55 and then suddenly lower it to 45 and station cops at the speed limit change.

/the town also lowered several 45mph roads to 35mph and now they camp out there too
//f*cking cops

[t3.gstatic.com image 256x192]


Oh. Boo hoo. Boo hoo.

If you want a private race track, build it yourself jackhole.

//f*cking people who drive too fast.

welcometofark.jpg


 Suck me sideways.
 
2013-12-11 11:24:37 AM
rickythepenguin:   i guess the mid-engine design has a totally different distribution of weight that, if you aren't an experienced driver, the turning / distribution of weight coupled with the racing suspension, is just a firecracker of a car.

If I dropped that kind of coin on a sports car, it better rotate like Jenna Jameson.
 
2013-12-11 11:27:42 AM

Pocket Ninja: It's funny what small road bumps will do when some asshole displays a criminal disregard of any safe speed limit.


This. The net effect is that Porsche sells some Darwinner a new Porsche.
 
2013-12-11 11:28:47 AM

blunttrauma: If I dropped that kind of coin on a sports car, it better rotate like Jenna Jameson.


carolla also talked about the car, i think how noted professional race car driver Jay Leno spun his Carerra out 3 times at some race.

i thinkt he story Rogan told was this friend of his drove it at a track, but cut the session short and said afterwards that the car was too dangerous.  something like that.  dude was like, "nope, not me, fark that car, yo."
 
2013-12-11 11:38:03 AM
This is your daily reminder that the driver of Paul Walker's death mobile was his friend, Roger Rodas. Not only is Roger Rodas a professional driver, he owns a car customization company. All that vehicle knowledge, and absolutely zero respect for the fact that he was operating a killing machine in the worst possible way.

R.I.H. Roger Rodas. You could have put actual people's lives at risk, you selfish asshole.

/rest in hell
 
2013-12-11 11:38:22 AM
I blame the driver only because that person was a pro racer and should have known better, it's like Mario Andretti driving around LA like it's Need for Speed. You're gonna crash sooner or later.
 
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