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(Examiner)   Scottish malt is no match for American whiskey and the proof is in the barrel   (examiner.com) divider line 56
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2013-12-11 07:27:24 AM  
So an American says that American bourbon is better than scotch? OK, whatever.
*rolls eyes*
 
2013-12-11 07:55:36 AM  

gopher321: So an American says that American bourbon is better than scotch? OK, whatever.
*rolls eyes*


As an American and a boozer, I call bullshiat.

You drink burbon for the punch and price point, not the flavor.
 
2013-12-11 08:14:19 AM  
I would prefer bourbon (at least, any that I've tried) to scotch (at least, any that I've tried), but I don't expect everyone to.
 
2013-12-11 08:32:41 AM  

doglover: You drink burbon for the punch and price point, not the flavor.


i do?  well thanks for setting me straight!
 
2013-12-11 08:32:59 AM  

doglover: gopher321: So an American says that American bourbon is better than scotch? OK, whatever.
*rolls eyes*

As an American and a boozer, I call bullshiat.

You drink burbon for the punch and price point, not the flavor.


Actually, I drink bourbon for the flavor. Never been a huge fan of Scotch. Then again, I'm American, and was raised on the stuff, coming from a long line of Americans with a taste for bourbon...
 
2013-12-11 08:35:04 AM  

doublesecretprobation: doglover: You drink burbon for the punch and price point, not the flavor.

i do?  well thanks for setting me straight!


You're welcome.

Stop by any time and I'll tell you everything you need to know.
 
2013-12-11 08:41:35 AM  
Bourbon > sucking whiskey out of an old oak table
 
2013-12-11 09:48:07 AM  
Scotch > corn fuel that took a dip in a freshly burnt barn.
 
2013-12-11 09:48:36 AM  

xanadian: Bourbon > sucking whiskey out of an old oak table


Scotch > whiskey you picked up at a fire sale.
 
2013-12-11 09:49:42 AM  
i do love my scotch whisky. and i have yet to try a bourbon that doesn't make me retch.

i do however want to try this glenmorangie ealanta. i very much enjoy their 10 yo and 18 yo expressions.
 
2013-12-11 09:51:51 AM  

FlashHarry: i do however want to try this glenmorangie ealanta.


When it's mixed with Sprite, it's incredible.
 
2013-12-11 09:54:03 AM  
Bourbon > Whiskey percolated through a peat-burning stovepipe
 
2013-12-11 09:56:30 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: FlashHarry: i do however want to try this glenmorangie ealanta.

When it's mixed with Sprite, it's incredible.


i heard that. but i prefer it with a well-done kobe steak.
 
2013-12-11 10:01:41 AM  

gopher321: So an American says that American bourbon is better than scotch? OK, whatever.
*rolls eyes*


Murray was born in Murstham Surrey - He is throughly British.
 
2013-12-11 10:02:23 AM  

gopher321: So an American says that American bourbon is better than scotch? OK, whatever.
*rolls eyes*


Jim Murray is British
 
2013-12-11 10:26:55 AM  
There must be something wrong with me.  I have both in my boozin' cab'net at home.
 
2013-12-11 10:27:37 AM  

doglover: You drink burbon for the punch and price point, not the flavor.


You haven't tried some of the high-end bourbons available these days, have you? There are some with amazing flavors and they vary in character as much as Scotch Whiskys do.

 It you're talking about cheap bourbon,then you have to compare it to this:
i40.tinypic.com
 
2013-12-11 10:37:22 AM  
Bourbon > Scotch
Bourbon > Irish
Scotch > Irish, for most things actually, not just whisk(e)y

Drink real booze

www.timeoutchicago.com
 
2013-12-11 10:48:22 AM  
Hope you enjoy your furthering your man-boobs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens#Food_sources
 
2013-12-11 11:04:35 AM  
Scottish isles or gtfo
 
2013-12-11 11:25:22 AM  
Evan Williams FTW. 15$ a gallon
 
2013-12-11 11:29:54 AM  
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What is going on here? Did you know I have a new movie out?
 
2013-12-11 11:44:16 AM  

ToastTheRabbit: Evan Williams FTW. 15$ a gallon


Ack! Bourbon equivalent of eyebleach:
i40.tinypic.com
Costs a bit more than $15/gallon, but it comes in a box and that's a real leather thong at the top.
 
2013-12-11 11:54:06 AM  
I planted my own peat bog in the back yard.

Anytime I want a good quaff of scotch, I pour Everclear on top of the bog, set it on fire, lay down on the edge of the bog and strain the juices through my teeth.

Bourbon, please.

Especially Beam's Red Stag Black Cherry infused if I'm making whiskey sours. Amen.
 
2013-12-11 12:05:55 PM  
www.justaguything.com
 
2013-12-11 12:14:05 PM  
*walks in*
*sees whats going on in the thread*  Oh Lawd!

*wonders what Drew's preference is*
 
2013-12-11 12:14:31 PM  
Ever since Jim Beam kicked my ass in college back in '96 I haven't been able to even smell bourbon let alone drink it...

/"Aw man, I am out of coke to chase my Jim Beam with, guess I gotta stop drinking...:"
//"No problem dude, I have some keystone light here, you can just chase it with that!"
//Brought to you by Bad Idea Brand Jeans
 
2013-12-11 12:19:30 PM  
I think we can all agree that (Scotch, Bourbon) > Rum.
 
2013-12-11 01:11:46 PM  

Relatively Obscure: I would prefer bourbon (at least, any that I've tried) to scotch (at least, any that I've tried), but I don't expect everyone to.


Drink what you like.  Personally, I enjoy most whiskey styles I've tried.  I like bourbon, scotch, rye, Irish, and Japanese whiskey.  Damn, that was way too positive for a Fark bourbon v. scotch thread.  I do not care for rum and vodka.  There, that feels much better.
 
2013-12-11 01:26:26 PM  
FlashHarry:

i do however want to try this glenmorangie ealanta. i very much enjoy their 10 yo and 18 yo expressions.

I don't know who these 2 are, but you can wind up in a registry for that kind of stuff.  Stick with the older one and get a new Username and you might stay out of jail.
 
2013-12-11 01:34:22 PM  

doglover: You drink burbon for the punch and price point, not the flavor.


Someone has never had Pappy Van Winkle.

Even the 15 year old tastes great
 
2013-12-11 01:39:13 PM  

doglover: gopher321: So an American says that American bourbon is better than scotch? OK, whatever.
*rolls eyes*

As an American and a boozer, I call bullshiat.

You drink burbon for the punch and price point, not the flavor.


No, I drink bourbon because I enjoy the flavor.  If I wanted to drink something that tasted like cough syrup I'd buy Robitussin.
 
2013-12-11 01:39:57 PM  

Tarl3k: Ever since Jim Beam kicked my ass in college back in '96 I haven't been able to even smell bourbon let alone drink it...

/"Aw man, I am out of coke to chase my Jim Beam with, guess I gotta stop drinking...:"
//"No problem dude, I have some keystone light here, you can just chase it with that!"
//Brought to you by Bad Idea Brand Jeans


Doesn't seem like that bad an idea, the keystones are barely stronger than the cokes.  They just taste worse.
 
2013-12-11 01:47:41 PM  

steamingpile: doglover: You drink burbon for the punch and price point, not the flavor.

Someone has never had Pappy Van Winkle.

Even the 15 year old tastes great


If you like the Pappy, you should really try to find some Weller 12-year-old.  It's pretty much the same recipe as Weller used to own PVW and comes from the same distillery.  Best thing is that it costs $25 instead of $80 a bottle.

Really would like to find some PVW Rye.  I used to get it all the time before it became unobtainable.

Below is a link to the Alton Brown podcast where he interviews Julian Van Winkle.  The taste test at the end is pretty interesting stuff.

http://www.nerdist.com/2013/10/the-alton-browncast-15-julian-van-win kl e/
 
2013-12-11 01:52:15 PM  
Whisk(e)y-wise I tend to alternate between Yellow Spot, Balvenie, Maker's Mark, and Monkey Shoulder.
Which is best? None of them. It depends entirely on what mood I'm in.

Best advice I ever got was: "Find one you like and find out how you like it. Look for a decent deal then stock up and enjoy". Any wine or cigar buffs I've met have said similar.
To claim that one is 'better' than another is just snobbery.
 
2013-12-11 02:01:17 PM  

StrikitRich: steamingpile: doglover: You drink burbon for the punch and price point, not the flavor.

Someone has never had Pappy Van Winkle.

Even the 15 year old tastes great

If you like the Pappy, you should really try to find some Weller 12-year-old.  It's pretty much the same recipe as Weller used to own PVW and comes from the same distillery.  Best thing is that it costs $25 instead of $80 a bottle.

Really would like to find some PVW Rye.  I used to get it all the time before it became unobtainable.

Below is a link to the Alton Brown podcast where he interviews Julian Van Winkle.  The taste test at the end is pretty interesting stuff.

http://www.nerdist.com/2013/10/the-alton-browncast-15-julian-van-win kl e/



And in turn owned by Buffalo Trace... a decent bourbon distiller. I'm enjoying my Woodford Reserve and Old Weller Centennial on the Kentucky Bourbon side.

As to Scotch, I really liked The Glenlivet 15. I learned a lot about Isley distilleries in that they have that peaty flavor I do not like (firepit with water in it?). Highland and Speyside distilleries create flavors I enjoy.
 
2013-12-11 02:11:57 PM  

djrez4: I think we can all agree that (Scotch, Bourbon) > Rum.


Having spent some time in the Caribbean and even Mesa Verde had a great small batch rum distillery, I gotta say, "it depends." There are some fantastic rums out there, the same as there are some brilliant Anejo tequilas. Depends on what you're in the mood for, the company, and the place. Scotch and the ocean isn't quite so great a mix in my book, but white sand beaches, rum, and music is a great blend.
 
2013-12-11 02:15:34 PM  
I Golden Promise you, you've got it backwards.
 
2013-12-11 02:44:30 PM  

StrikitRich: doglover: gopher321: So an American says that American bourbon is better than scotch? OK, whatever.
*rolls eyes*

As an American and a boozer, I call bullshiat.

You drink burbon for the punch and price point, not the flavor.

No, I drink bourbon because I enjoy the flavor.  If I wanted to drink something that tasted like cough syrup I'd buy Robitussin.


So, Night Train?
 
2013-12-11 03:13:36 PM  
As a Canadian, when I think of Kentucky whisk(e)y or bourbon or what have you, I just have this impression of cheaply made pumped out gasoline water. Maybe because of the moonshiners. I just can't see how that area could become known for making quality whisky. Tons of the sh*t yeah, but actually good? HOWEVER I'm sure I'm wrong, and meh, never had any, that's just the impression that I get.

/Forty Creek copper pot, and Wiser's small batch for me
 
2013-12-11 03:59:12 PM  

StrikitRich: If you like the Pappy, you should really try to find some Weller 12-year-old. It's pretty much the same recipe as Weller used to own PVW and comes from the same distillery. Best thing is that it costs $25 instead of $80 a bottle.


Is it easier to obtain though? We got ours through a friend who is an old distributor and has connections, we almost got a 23 year old bottle as well, wish we would have now since its hard to find everything else. We have a 20 year old bottle and we are just waiting on our friend to come back from out west to open it and a 12 year old bottle that will probably be open this weekend, had the 15 year old at a restaurant this weekend and it does not taste anything like you expect when you drink bourbon.
 
2013-12-11 04:02:45 PM  

Polish Hussar: Drink what you like.


*GASP*

What the hell kind of world would THAT be?!
 
2013-12-11 04:03:48 PM  
I guess I am one of those that likes both Scotch and Bourbon. American whiskey has come a long ways in the past few years and there are some fantastic Bourbons available now. Personally I am a rye whiskey fan, but I'll take a good Speyside any day.
 
2013-12-11 04:35:01 PM  

sure haven't: As a Canadian, when I think of Kentucky whisk(e)y or bourbon or what have you, I just have this impression of cheaply made pumped out gasoline water. Maybe because of the moonshiners. I just can't see how that area could become known for making quality whisky. Tons of the sh*t yeah, but actually good? HOWEVER I'm sure I'm wrong, and meh, never had any, that's just the impression that I get.

/Forty Creek copper pot, and Wiser's small batch for me


Given all of Kentucky's other attributes, you cannot be blamed for your impression.  You are wrong, however, and I would highly recommend trying one of the better bourbons sometime.
 
2013-12-11 05:11:39 PM  

steamingpile: StrikitRich: If you like the Pappy, you should really try to find some Weller 12-year-old. It's pretty much the same recipe as Weller used to own PVW and comes from the same distillery. Best thing is that it costs $25 instead of $80 a bottle.

Is it easier to obtain though? We got ours through a friend who is an old distributor and has connections, we almost got a 23 year old bottle as well, wish we would have now since its hard to find everything else. We have a 20 year old bottle and we are just waiting on our friend to come back from out west to open it and a 12 year old bottle that will probably be open this weekend, had the 15 year old at a restaurant this weekend and it does not taste anything like you expect when you drink bourbon.


My dad bought me a glass of the 15-year Pappy Family Reserve at a restaurant a couple weeks ago, they charged $50 for it.  Best bourbon I've ever had, but not $50 a glass good.
 
2013-12-11 06:04:17 PM  

steamingpile: doglover: You drink burbon for the punch and price point, not the flavor.

Someone has never had Pappy Van Winkle.

Even the 15 year old tastes great


Eh. Whatever. I can think of better things to blow $259 on.
 
2013-12-11 06:23:12 PM  

steamingpile: StrikitRich: If you like the Pappy, you should really try to find some Weller 12-year-old. It's pretty much the same recipe as Weller used to own PVW and comes from the same distillery. Best thing is that it costs $25 instead of $80 a bottle.

Is it easier to obtain though? We got ours through a friend who is an old distributor and has connections, we almost got a 23 year old bottle as well, wish we would have now since its hard to find everything else. We have a 20 year old bottle and we are just waiting on our friend to come back from out west to open it and a 12 year old bottle that will probably be open this weekend, had the 15 year old at a restaurant this weekend and it does not taste anything like you expect when you drink bourbon.


I've only seen it at the ABC Liquor stores in FL, not the independents, but the ABCs had it stacked up in big displays.
 
2013-12-11 07:51:50 PM  
digging the newly revived rye whiskey craze.
 
2013-12-11 08:16:07 PM  

groovykindahate: Whisk(e)y-wise I tend to alternate between Yellow Spot, Balvenie, Maker's Mark, and Monkey Shoulder.
Which is best? None of them. It depends entirely on what mood I'm in.

Best advice I ever got was: "Find one you like and find out how you like it. Look for a decent deal then stock up and enjoy". Any wine or cigar buffs I've met have said similar.
To claim that one is 'better' than another is just snobbery.


you make too much sense to be on Fark. it is amusing how often people confuse personal taste, opinion and fact. and one of the smartest and most life successful men I ever knew lived by the 'stock up on the decent deal of what you like' mindset. he made a lot of money and he wasn't a fool spending it.
 
2013-12-11 09:15:31 PM  

Butterfinger: And in turn owned by Buffalo Trace... a decent bourbon distiller. I'm enjoying my Woodford Reserve and Old Weller Centennial on the Kentucky Bourbon side.

As to Scotch, I really liked The Glenlivet 15. I learned a lot about Isley distilleries in that they have that peaty flavor I do not like (firepit with water in it?). Highland and Speyside distilleries create flavors I enjoy.


Haven't had the Weller Centennial but will look for it.
 
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