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2013-12-11 09:55:08 AM
I didn't realize Robinson Cano is the answer to all the Mariners' problems.

I usually sympathize with Seattle sports despite Seahawks fans' reputations, but this article is stupid.
 
2013-12-11 09:55:49 AM
The Sonics went all the way to OKC-- that is pretty far.
 
2013-12-11 09:56:00 AM
The Sounders scored a big coup in signing Dempsey and making the playoffs.
 
2013-12-11 10:03:07 AM

AtariGod: The Sounders scored a big coup in signing Dempsey and making the playoffs.


But still have a crappy coach who can't manage the talent
 
2013-12-11 10:06:56 AM
The Seattle P-I used to be a good news organization. Now, they're essentially aggregators and for-free content like this shiat. As newspapers continue their shift to the digital world we can expect more of this model.

And this low-quality crap.
 
2013-12-11 10:13:30 AM
I guess Subby means the year before. Unless Seattle is claiming San Antonio or Miami in addition to OKC as teams they think still belong to them.

/Cano...lol
 
2013-12-11 10:14:30 AM
Oh boy, we sign a Yankee, and suddenly we're Relevant with a capital R.

fark off, whoever wrote this (not clicking the PI, they're mostly imported content from San Francisco now)

The Sounders. oy. Apparently the big discovery of the offseason so far has been there was a "morale problem" in the clubhouse. So they've been actively dumping anyone that they think had one.
 
2013-12-11 10:17:19 AM

eagles95: AtariGod: The Sounders scored a big coup in signing Dempsey and making the playoffs.

But still have a crappy coach who can't manage the talent


Unfortunately this.  I can't believe we got rid of Gspurning and brought in Frei.  My opinion is that the game of soccer is evolving in MLS to be VERY different than EPL, and Schmid can't (or won't) adjust.

The Mariners still suck, and the Sonics are gone.  The Hawks are good and the Huskies are better (0-12, nowhere to go but up).  Not sure what he's so excited about, other than the Coach Pete signing.  (Can't wait to see how this plays out).  Cano isn't going to fix the Mariners by himself...
 
2013-12-11 10:17:49 AM

SlagginOff: I didn't realize Robinson Cano is the answer to all the Mariners' problems.

I usually sympathize with Seattle sports despite Seahawks fans' reputations, but this article is stupid.


What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL, or being able to actually bring a homefield advantage using a normal stadium feature to all stadiums built in this rainly climate?

Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.

The Sounders fan base has a chant -- "No one likes us / we don't care." Seems apt for all sports from here actually. South Alaska is never going to win a popularity contest with people writing about us from over 1000 mi away, for an audience of people also over 1000 mi away. Seattle's never the home team anywhere except right in Seattle. So we go over the top a little bit. Sure as hell won't get support from anyplace else.
 
2013-12-11 10:21:29 AM

KJUW89: eagles95: AtariGod: The Sounders scored a big coup in signing Dempsey and making the playoffs.

But still have a crappy coach who can't manage the talent

Unfortunately this.  I can't believe we got rid of Gspurning and brought in Frei.  My opinion is that the game of soccer is evolving in MLS to be VERY different than EPL, and Schmid can't (or won't) adjust.

The Mariners still suck, and the Sonics are gone.  The Hawks are good and the Huskies are better (0-12, nowhere to go but up).  Not sure what he's so excited about, other than the Coach Pete signing.  (Can't wait to see how this plays out).  Cano isn't going to fix the Mariners by himself...


The only logic I've seen around dumping Gspurning is salary cap. But I agree in general, it was a dumb move.

There's a criticism of Sigi that some have which is he cannot manage big talent, only workman/journeyman types.
 
2013-12-11 10:24:23 AM
The Thunder went to the finals two seasons ago, subby.
 
2013-12-11 10:25:13 AM

Generation_D: The Sounders fan base has a chant -- "No one likes us / we don't care." Seems apt for all sports from here actually. South Alaska is never going to win a popularity contest with people writing about us from over 1000 mi away, for an audience of people also over 1000 mi away. Seattle's never the home team anywhere except right in Seattle. So we go over the top a little bit. Sure as hell won't get support from anyplace else.


People don't like you because you're soccer fans. Deal.
 
2013-12-11 10:29:46 AM

Generation_D: KJUW89: eagles95: AtariGod: The Sounders scored a big coup in signing Dempsey and making the playoffs.

But still have a crappy coach who can't manage the talent

Unfortunately this.  I can't believe we got rid of Gspurning and brought in Frei.  My opinion is that the game of soccer is evolving in MLS to be VERY different than EPL, and Schmid can't (or won't) adjust.

The Mariners still suck, and the Sonics are gone.  The Hawks are good and the Huskies are better (0-12, nowhere to go but up).  Not sure what he's so excited about, other than the Coach Pete signing.  (Can't wait to see how this plays out).  Cano isn't going to fix the Mariners by himself...

The only logic I've seen around dumping Gspurning is salary cap. But I agree in general, it was a dumb move.

There's a criticism of Sigi that some have which is he cannot manage big talent, only workman/journeyman types.


And yet they are trying to figure out a way to bring in Eto'O  in the offseason.
 
2013-12-11 10:41:49 AM

Generation_D: Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.


And now Beats is feeding on this supposed "reputation" with an ad displaying Colin Kaepernick's personal martyrdom fantasy, which might as well have been directed by Mel Gibson and performed in Aramaic.
 
2013-12-11 10:42:06 AM

AtariGod: The Sounders scored a big coup in signing Dempsey and making the playoffs.


They've never missed the playoffs, and they've never got past the first round.
 
2013-12-11 11:01:15 AM

Generation_D: SlagginOff: I didn't realize Robinson Cano is the answer to all the Mariners' problems.

I usually sympathize with Seattle sports despite Seahawks fans' reputations, but this article is stupid.

What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL, or being able to actually bring a homefield advantage using a normal stadium feature to all stadiums built in this rainly climate?

Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.



It's not something I buy into - I'm just talking about a general conception that Seahawks fans whine about the refs all the time. Again, I really don't see it happen often, it is just unfortunately a talking point that gets played out among circle people. Long story short, I have nothing against the Seahawks or their fans (except I will never call them the Hawks for short as I reserve that for my beloved Blackhawks).
 
2013-12-11 11:17:24 AM

MFAWG: AtariGod: The Sounders scored a big coup in signing Dempsey and making the playoffs.

They've never missed the playoffs, and they've never got past the first round.


We did actually get 1 round deep in 2012.

And won the play-in game this year, after leading the division/conference/league with 7 games to go, needing only a 3-3-1 to win out. And going 0-6-1 instead.

Yep, all team attitude, had to be.
 
2013-12-11 11:19:30 AM

SlagginOff: Generation_D: SlagginOff: I didn't realize Robinson Cano is the answer to all the Mariners' problems.

I usually sympathize with Seattle sports despite Seahawks fans' reputations, but this article is stupid.

What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL, or being able to actually bring a homefield advantage using a normal stadium feature to all stadiums built in this rainly climate?

Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.


It's not something I buy into - I'm just talking about a general conception that Seahawks fans whine about the refs all the time. Again, I really don't see it happen often, it is just unfortunately a talking point that gets played out among circle people. Long story short, I have nothing against the Seahawks or their fans (except I will never call them the Hawks for short as I reserve that for my beloved Blackhawks).


Around here, your beloved Blackhawks are often mistaken for Portland WinterHawks of the Western Hockey League. Reason - Winterhawks wear Blackhawks unis except the shoulder "C" becomes a "P" for Portland.

If the NHL ever wises up and puts Seattle and Portland in the NHL they'll have to do something about that. Probably just drop the Winterhawk uni entirely. Seattle T-Bird would still work.
 
2013-12-11 11:19:38 AM

Generation_D: SlagginOff: I didn't realize Robinson Cano is the answer to all the Mariners' problems.

I usually sympathize with Seattle sports despite Seahawks fans' reputations, but this article is stupid.

What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL, or being able to actually bring a homefield advantage using a normal stadium feature to all stadiums built in this rainly climate?

Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.


Success breeds contempt.  It's now trendy to hate on Seahawks fans; no one gave a damn four years ago.  It's amazing taking a look at the PFT message boards.  Hell, even Florio has gotten on the "hate Sherman" bandwagon, calling him a whiner, and saying he was sure to get fined for his hit against NO (which he wasn't).  I've seen a good number of fans calls Seahawks players "thugs," which is generally white fan speak for "black players I don't like."
 
2013-12-11 11:21:39 AM

Super Chronic: Generation_D: Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.

And now Beats is feeding on this supposed "reputation" with an ad displaying Colin Kaepernick's personal martyrdom fantasy, which might as well have been directed by Mel Gibson and performed in Aramaic.


That ad was hilarious. It looked like Delicate Flower Colin had to drown out the insane screams of the Rain and Hill People.
 
2013-12-11 11:23:44 AM

Generation_D: SlagginOff: Generation_D: SlagginOff: I didn't realize Robinson Cano is the answer to all the Mariners' problems.

I usually sympathize with Seattle sports despite Seahawks fans' reputations, but this article is stupid.

What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL, or being able to actually bring a homefield advantage using a normal stadium feature to all stadiums built in this rainly climate?

Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.


It's not something I buy into - I'm just talking about a general conception that Seahawks fans whine about the refs all the time. Again, I really don't see it happen often, it is just unfortunately a talking point that gets played out among circle people. Long story short, I have nothing against the Seahawks or their fans (except I will never call them the Hawks for short as I reserve that for my beloved Blackhawks).

Around here, your beloved Blackhawks are often mistaken for Portland WinterHawks of the Western Hockey League. Reason - Winterhawks wear Blackhawks unis except the shoulder "C" becomes a "P" for Portland.

If the NHL ever wises up and puts Seattle and Portland in the NHL they'll have to do something about that. Probably just drop the Winterhawk uni entirely. Seattle T-Bird would still work.


I'd love to see the NHL in the PNW, but that would mean even longer west coast trips for the Blackhawks. Although those haven't been as fatal in recent years as they were in what we will call the "dark ages."
 
2013-12-11 11:27:43 AM

Generation_D: SlagginOff: I didn't realize Robinson Cano is the answer to all the Mariners' problems.

I usually sympathize with Seattle sports despite Seahawks fans' reputations, but this article is stupid.

What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL, or being able to actually bring a homefield advantage using a normal stadium feature to all stadiums built in this rainly climate?

Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.

The Sounders fan base has a chant -- "No one likes us / we don't care." Seems apt for all sports from here actually. South Alaska is never going to win a popularity contest with people writing about us from over 1000 mi away, for an audience of people also over 1000 mi away. Seattle's never the home team anywhere except right in Seattle. So we go over the top a little bit. Sure as hell won't get support from anyplace else.


Can't imagine why you'd have a bad reputation for whining about being "jobbed" out of a Super Bowl that you deserved to lose.

No true Seattle fan though I guess.

/jobbed, sure yeah, if you cry enough maybe they'll deliver the trophy to you
//"What whining? Seattle fans don't whine. Now let me proceed to whine about the refs"
///you know why you don't get support anywhere else? Because for the majority of the existence of your sports teams they've sucked donkey balls. So no one in the rest of the country cares about your teams or the 1000s upon 1000s of fair weather fans you've picked up since you've had a bit of "success" in the last few years. Deal with it, get over your inferiority complex.
 
2013-12-11 11:28:11 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Generation_D: SlagginOff: I didn't realize Robinson Cano is the answer to all the Mariners' problems.

I usually sympathize with Seattle sports despite Seahawks fans' reputations, but this article is stupid.

What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL, or being able to actually bring a homefield advantage using a normal stadium feature to all stadiums built in this rainly climate?

Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.

Success breeds contempt.  It's now trendy to hate on Seahawks fans; no one gave a damn four years ago.  It's amazing taking a look at the PFT message boards.  Hell, even Florio has gotten on the "hate Sherman" bandwagon, calling him a whiner, and saying he was sure to get fined for his hit against NO (which he wasn't).  I've seen a good number of fans calls Seahawks players "thugs," which is generally white fan speak for "black players I don't like."


Hey, so we're the Old Raiders now, with some Rabid Hillpeople in the Rain mixed in. I'm cool with that.

The only thing is though, the minute we run up against some National Favorite in the playoffs or SB, you can be damn sure all the narratives will be 100% anti Seattle.

What we encountered in XL -- it was all about The Bus Retirement and Steeler Tradition. Not one word about Holmgren, or Hasselbeck, or Shaun Alexander or anything pro-Seattle. And then the game featured some curious calls, for which the referee apologized in person for here later.

So the narrative that we get jobbed any time we get national notice is strong around here. The Sonics got hard-done by Stern, then Stern does a 180 and breaks the bank to keep Sacramento in place. We lost out when a robber baron stole from us, with the league's approval, then when our own robber baron tried to steal FOR us, we were shut down again. Again, the narrative that the minute Seattle's noticed nationally it's so they can screw us over.

Sooner or later we are going to win some titles in something and put a lot of this to rest. Right now we're just this angry pent up ball of rain soaked coffee fueled grunge blasting fish throwing space needle gazing suicidal angst.

And while I have everyone out there's attention, a "Rain Sheild" is a normal feature of a sports outdoor stadium around here. Every stadium from high school on up has them. The idea that Centurylink Field has "a feature specially built to amply crowd noise" is some laughably silly stuff -- until the rest of the country believes it, and constructs "Seattle's cheating" narratives around it. If a stadium was built in Europe where it rains, or the Northwest US where it rains, it has a rain shield. Nothing new or controversial....

Except to the New Yorkers or San Franciscans that just lost a game here, then its suddenly big news.
 
2013-12-11 11:31:56 AM

js34603: Generation_D: SlagginOff: I didn't realize Robinson Cano is the answer to all the Mariners' problems.

I usually sympathize with Seattle sports despite Seahawks fans' reputations, but this article is stupid.

What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL, or being able to actually bring a homefield advantage using a normal stadium feature to all stadiums built in this rainly climate?

Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.

The Sounders fan base has a chant -- "No one likes us / we don't care." Seems apt for all sports from here actually. South Alaska is never going to win a popularity contest with people writing about us from over 1000 mi away, for an audience of people also over 1000 mi away. Seattle's never the home team anywhere except right in Seattle. So we go over the top a little bit. Sure as hell won't get support from anyplace else.

Can't imagine why you'd have a bad reputation for whining about being "jobbed" out of a Super Bowl that you deserved to lose.

No true Seattle fan though I guess.

/jobbed, sure yeah, if you cry enough maybe they'll deliver the trophy to you
//"What whining? Seattle fans don't whine. Now let me proceed to whine about the refs"
///you know why you don't get support anywhere else? Because for the majority of the existence of your sports teams they've sucked donkey balls. So no one in the rest of the country cares about your teams or the 1000s upon 1000s of fair weather fans you've picked up since you've had a bit of "success" in the last few years. Deal with it, get over your inferiority complex.


Deserved is subjective, but XL was the first superbowl in forever that the team that outgained in yards lost in points. And we had Bill Leavy apologizing later in person for his screw ups. But don't let any of that derail your national narrative we're whiners.

All we've ever claimed was that had the situation been reversed, had Pittsburgh been forced to play, say, in Portland OR in front of 80,000 Northwest fans, 90% of whom were rooting loudly for Seattle, and if Pittsburgh had gotten 2 touchdown/long gain plays taken away by really clearly wrong officials calls.. all the while the national narrative formed that Pittsburgh were whining losers ..

Well you see what it would look like. Or not. Doesn't matter. I'm pretty OK with whatever the fark you guys think, just attempting to provide some locally based sports fan view to balance it with. I report you decide.
 
2013-12-11 11:49:31 AM

Generation_D: Hey, so we're the Old Raiders now, with some Rabid Hillpeople in the Rain mixed in. I'm cool with that.

The only thing is though, the minute we run up against some National Favorite in the playoffs or SB, you can be damn sure all the narratives will be 100% anti Seattle.

What we encountered in XL -- it was all about The Bus Retirement and Steeler Tradition. Not one word about Holmgren, or Hasselbeck, or Shaun Alexander or anything pro-Seattle. And then the game featured some curious calls, for which the referee apologized in person for here later.

So the narrative that we get jobbed any time we get national notice is strong around here. The Sonics got hard-done by Stern, then Stern does a 180 and breaks the bank to keep Sacramento in place. We lost out when a robber baron stole from us, with the league's approval, then when our own robber baron tried to steal FOR us, we were shut down again. Again, the narrative that the minute Seattle's noticed nationally it's so they can screw us over.

Sooner or later we are going to win some titles in something and put a lot of this to rest. Right now we're just this angry pent up ball of rain soaked coffee fueled grunge blasting fish throwing space needle gazing suicidal angst.

And while I have everyone out there's attention, a "Rain Sheild" is a normal feature of a sports outdoor stadium around here. Every stadium from high school on up has them. The idea that Centurylink Field has "a feature specially built to amply crowd noise" is some laughably silly stuff -- until the rest of the country believes it, and constructs "Seattle's cheating" narratives around it. If a stadium was built in Europe where it rains, or the Northwest US where it rains, it has a rain shield. Nothing new or controversial....

Except to the New Yorkers or San Franciscans that just lost a game here, then its suddenly big news.


I think that the persecution complex that is common among Seattle sports fans, which you just displayed in your post here, is a large part of why your fan base has the reputation it does.  If you want people to stop viewing you as whiners, stop whining.

Also, I don't think the Seahawks will have to worry about running up against the national favorite this year since they ARE the national favorite (favorite as in expected to win, not favorite as in most liked).  Your team is having a lot of success, why can't you enjoy it?
 
2013-12-11 12:18:29 PM
js34603:

I have to say, you are awfully passionate in your trolling of Seattle fans, in this and other threads. I can only think of one other guy who arguably matches your burning hatred. Did a Seattle sports fan stuff you in a locker when you were a kid or something?
 
2013-12-11 12:26:26 PM
The default setting for the world is not "we love Seattle sports fans". Nobody likes other fanbases. Whining that you should be loved and embraced as non-whiners doesnt really make your dream closer to reality.
 
2013-12-11 12:36:32 PM

Generation_D: But don't let any of that derail your national narrative we're whiners.


"Narrative?"

He doesn't have to do shiat. We can just sit back and watch you do what you do. I love how so many Seahawk fans will shiat all over threads with their whining while claiming that they aren't whiners.

All this thread is missing is Shame Us telling us all that people like you don't exist while you are doing your whining.
 
2013-12-11 12:37:00 PM

Generation_D: SlagginOff: I didn't realize Robinson Cano is the answer to all the Mariners' problems.

I usually sympathize with Seattle sports despite Seahawks fans' reputations, but this article is stupid.

What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL, or being able to actually bring a homefield advantage using a normal stadium feature to all stadiums built in this rainly climate?

Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.

The Sounders fan base has a chant -- "No one likes us / we don't care." Seems apt for all sports from here actually. South Alaska is never going to win a popularity contest with people writing about us from over 1000 mi away, for an audience of people also over 1000 mi away. Seattle's never the home team anywhere except right in Seattle. So we go over the top a little bit. Sure as hell won't get support from anyplace else.


Amen, brother, and Vancouver joins you in that sentiment as well, 100%.

// Pacific Northwest United
/// NHL, Bring back the Seattle Metros
//// The Sonics too, NBA
// Chris Hansen rules
// Go Seahawks, Canucks, Sounders, and Whitecaps!
 
2013-12-11 12:50:10 PM
Generation_D:

The Sounders fan base has a chant -- "No one likes us / we don't care." Seems apt for all sports from here actually. South Alaska is never going to win a popularity contest with people writing about us from over 1000 mi away, for an audience of people also over 1000 mi away. Seattle's never the home team anywhere except right in Seattle. So we go over the top a little bit. Sure as hell won't get support from anyplace else.

Pretty sure that was stolen from Millwall FC, who have been chanting that since at least the late 70s. Like other Seattle traditions (12th man) it's something that was co-opted from an older fan base :-)
 
2013-12-11 12:50:12 PM
llortcM_yllort: ...Also, I don't think the Seahawks will have to worry about running up against the national favorite this year since they ARE the national favorite (favorite as in expected to win, not favorite as in most liked).  Your team is having a lot of success, why can't you enjoy it?

Not what he meant.

\Go Seahawks!
 
2013-12-11 12:54:11 PM
Aaaaand as if on cue, the other guy I mentioned has made an appearance in this thread. Of course he has.
 
2013-12-11 12:54:31 PM

Generation_D: The Sounders fan base has a chant -- "No one likes us / we don't care."


Millwall OC do not steal
 
2013-12-11 12:56:07 PM

Generation_D: KJUW89: eagles95: AtariGod: The Sounders scored a big coup in signing Dempsey and making the playoffs.

But still have a crappy coach who can't manage the talent

Unfortunately this.  I can't believe we got rid of Gspurning and brought in Frei.  My opinion is that the game of soccer is evolving in MLS to be VERY different than EPL, and Schmid can't (or won't) adjust.

The Mariners still suck, and the Sonics are gone.  The Hawks are good and the Huskies are better (0-12, nowhere to go but up).  Not sure what he's so excited about, other than the Coach Pete signing.  (Can't wait to see how this plays out).  Cano isn't going to fix the Mariners by himself...

The only logic I've seen around dumping Gspurning is salary cap. But I agree in general, it was a dumb move.

There's a criticism of Sigi that some have which is he cannot manage big talent, only workman/journeyman types.


Frei is half the price, reportedly. Gspurning's option would have most like moved his cap hit up around 300k (he was at 285k guaranteed compensation last year). In MLS, 100k or more in cap space for a possible downgrade at GK is worth it. Are we all forgetting Gspurning's spiral of ineptitude at the end of the season? Frei is not some crap unknown rook. He's had a couple of tough seasons with injury and y'know, playing for Toronto, but he should be on the same level as Gspurning.

Freeing up 800k in cap space with the recent moves makes sense for MLS. Zakuani, Rosales and Gspurning were, IIRC, the 3 largest non-DP contracts on the roster last season and the talent level/production didn't justify that much spending. Rosales isn't on the field enough to pick up a $250-300k option; Zakuani has never been the same since the Mullan tackle and at $190-200K he's too expensive for an unknown quantity. I think freeing up the cap room was the obvious way to go. Hopefully they end up spending it the right way.

It also is starting to sound like Oba might be headed out (SHoCKER), which would free up a DP slot with Fredy still out on loan.
 
2013-12-11 12:58:20 PM

MFAWG: AtariGod: The Sounders scored a big coup in signing Dempsey and making the playoffs.

They've never missed the playoffs, and they've never got past the first round.


They got past the first round this year. and last year.
 
2013-12-11 12:59:49 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Generation_D: SlagginOff: I didn't realize Robinson Cano is the answer to all the Mariners' problems.

I usually sympathize with Seattle sports despite Seahawks fans' reputations, but this article is stupid.

What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL, or being able to actually bring a homefield advantage using a normal stadium feature to all stadiums built in this rainly climate?

Most of our "bad reputation" comes from people not from here, deciding from a distance, they themselves don't like how we are, then biatching.

Success breeds contempt.  It's now trendy to hate on Seahawks fans; no one gave a damn four years ago.  It's amazing taking a look at the PFT message boards.  Hell, even Florio has gotten on the "hate Sherman" bandwagon, calling him a whiner, and saying he was sure to get fined for his hit against NO (which he wasn't).  I've seen a good number of fans calls Seahawks players "thugs," which is generally white fan speak for "black players I don't like."


Sherman was fined $7,875 for the hit. He put a little too much shoulder into an otherwise legal play. Happens.
 
2013-12-11 01:01:23 PM
I've never dealt with an obsessive before. Do you guys have any tips?
 
2013-12-11 01:22:52 PM

Generation_D: What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL


Just yesterday Shame Us said you guys never ever brought this up first. What gives?
 
2013-12-11 01:26:48 PM

Shame Us: I've never dealt with an obsessive before. Do you guys have any tips?


So you can call me out in every thread I'm in when I'm clearly talking about and to morons like Generation D, but me doing it once makes me obsessive? You poor widdle persecuted Seahawk fan. My heart aches over your unbearable pain.
 
2013-12-11 01:28:18 PM

mikaloyd: Generation_D: What reputation - being angry over being jobbed out of SuperBowl XL

Just yesterday Shame Us said you guys never ever brought this up first. What gives?


Yeah, people can stop falling over themselves to prove me wrong the last 16 hours or so.
 
2013-12-11 01:29:06 PM

Generation_D: What we encountered in XL -- it was all about The Bus Retirement and Steeler Tradition. Not one word about Holmgren, or Hasselbeck, or Shaun Alexander or anything pro-Seattle. And then the game featured some curious calls, for which the referee apologized in person for here later.


Well, I remember breathless reporting when the van carrying Hass and Alexander got stuck in the hotel security gate.

It is not whining to point out that the media and the organization tends to favor teams that sell tons of apparel and have a "history."  It's also not whining to point out other facts, such as the ref for XL apologizing to Seattle for his shiatty calls, and the NFL also busting its ass to take down every Web site with video and still images of the questionable calls in less than 24 hours.  It's also a fact that Seattle, even with their current success, is derided by many as being "cheaters" or "thugs" on a regular basis.
 
2013-12-11 01:29:44 PM

umad: Shame Us: I've never dealt with an obsessive before. Do you guys have any tips?

So you can call me out in every thread I'm in when I'm clearly talking about and to morons like Generation D, but me doing it once makes me obsessive? You poor widdle persecuted Seahawk fan. My heart aches over your unbearable pain.


I don't believe I have ever typed your handle in my life.
 
2013-12-11 01:33:15 PM

umad: Shame Us: I've never dealt with an obsessive before. Do you guys have any tips?

So you can call me out in every thread I'm in when I'm clearly talking about and to morons like Generation D, but me doing it once makes me obsessive? You poor widdle persecuted Seahawk fan. My heart aches over your unbearable pain.


My only problem with you is that you seem to be a one trick pony. All I ever see you do is talk shiat about Seattle fans in sports threads. You kept after me last night, you called me out again today out of the blue, it's a little weird that your whole experience with sports seems to just be hating on Seattle sports fans.
 
2013-12-11 01:34:19 PM

Shame Us: umad: Shame Us: I've never dealt with an obsessive before. Do you guys have any tips?

So you can call me out in every thread I'm in when I'm clearly talking about and to morons like Generation D, but me doing it once makes me obsessive? You poor widdle persecuted Seahawk fan. My heart aches over your unbearable pain.

I don't believe I have ever typed your handle in my life.


No, you just respond to every post that isn't directed to you. Same difference. Either way, you look like a real farking idiot with all of your "Seahawk fans don't bring up XL" and "Seahawk fans don't wine without being provoked" claims being thoroughly disproven in this thread yet once again.
 
2013-12-11 01:39:35 PM

umad: Shame Us: umad: Shame Us: I've never dealt with an obsessive before. Do you guys have any tips?

So you can call me out in every thread I'm in when I'm clearly talking about and to morons like Generation D, but me doing it once makes me obsessive? You poor widdle persecuted Seahawk fan. My heart aches over your unbearable pain.

I don't believe I have ever typed your handle in my life.

No, you just respond to every post that isn't directed to you. Same difference. Either way, you look like a real farking idiot with all of your "Seahawk fans don't bring up XL" and "Seahawk fans don't wine without being provoked" claims being thoroughly disproven in this thread yet once again.


Yeah. D kinda screwed me there. Although yesterday's was a Steeler hater, not a Seahawk fan. The majority of the time it's some jackhole posting something like "Oh wait until the Seacock fans stert biatching" as the 2nd comment in a thread.

There are delusional people who claim that we got screwed out of a game we obviously should have won. Those people are wrong. There were bad calls - I don't think anyone disputes that - and we lost. Correlation does not equal causation. You don't win super bowls by letting the likes of Willie Parker go 75 yards untouched or committing totally unnecessary OPI in the endzone or employing Jerramy Stevens. There are dumbasses and unapologetic homers is every fanbase at about the same rate, you have a hard-on for Seattle hate, though.
 
2013-12-11 01:40:44 PM

Shame Us: it's a little weird that your whole experience with sports seems to just be hating on Seattle sports fans.


I farking live in Seattle you dumbass. Just which team's fans do you suppose I get to hear whine every. farking. day? I can tell you that it isn't the farking Steelers.

I have lived in other cities before too, yet none of their fans can hold a candle to the biatching that goes on in Seattle. I only rag on Seattle fans because 99% of them are utterly insufferable whiners.

And with that, I am done replying to you. You can make all of the excuses you want. I don't need to convince anybody anyway, since I can sit back and let the posts of Generation D, IAmRight, and the others speak for themselves.
 
2013-12-11 01:44:23 PM

umad: I am done


Best farking news I've heard all day. Good god this guy is an insufferable thread-shiatter.
 
2013-12-11 01:44:28 PM

umad: I farking live in Seattle you dumbass. Just which team's fans do you suppose I get to hear whine every. farking. day?



Then why don't you move and stop bothering everyone?
 
2013-12-11 01:44:42 PM

Generation_D: Deserved is subjective, but XL was the first superbowl in forever that the team that outgained in yards lost in points.


Assuming you ignore XXXIX (you know, the previous year), XXXVI, XXXII and XXX, sure.  But hey, only 4 of the previous 10 isn't too bad.

It's happened in 10 out of the 47 Super Bowls.  In 5 of those games (XVI, XXXVI, XLIII, XLIV, XLVII) the yardage difference was been larger than that of LX.

It's almost like yardage isn't what determines the winner and loser of the game.
 
2013-12-11 01:46:48 PM
My take in the "resurgence" in Seattle sports: There was nowhere to go but up.

The Mariners are mediocre at best, for the moment. Mediocre would be awesome, actually.

The Seahawks are a force for the first time ever, really. Even the Super Bowl season in 2005, the team wasn't nearly this good, nor did it attract nearly as much hate - a solid measure of how much the rest of the country thinks of your prospects.

The Sounders front office is doing everything it can and getting a lack of return on the field. IDK if that's just because they're signing guys without regard for personality issues or if it's a coaching problem, but I'd rather deal with a ton of talent and have those problems than be Columbus or Toronto.

The Sonics - that one still sucks.

Hockey seems to be on the horizon and I'm excited for that. Should be fun.

UW - basketball sucks, football is better off now than it was 2 weeks ago. I think Peterson is the guy to put the Huskies back into the national conversation and start to challenge for conference titles again.


/That article is ridiculous though.
 
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