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2013-12-11 08:57:17 AM
I put ceramic catalyst discs in the fuel tank and magnets on the fuel line and haven't had to buy fuel in three years.  If I get this I figure I can sell fuel back to the gas stations.  All this article proves is that Jalopnick is controlled by big oil.
 
2013-12-11 09:21:05 AM
There must be something to this.  My lighter broke and now the car won't even start.
 
2013-12-11 10:13:19 AM
I stuck this thing up my butt and gained 12 IQ points, so something is happening...
 
2013-12-11 10:39:36 AM

PainInTheASP: I stuck this thing up my butt and gained 12 IQ points, so something is happening...


Imagine if you stuck it in your ear.
 
2013-12-11 10:42:03 AM
I bought one of these. Not sure about the fuel savings, but I haven't had to flush my headlight fluid since installing it.
 
2013-12-11 10:42:22 AM
Wow, the Jaguar mechanic's big test was 10 highway miles? Jesus, it's like he works on Mythbusters...
 
2013-12-11 10:42:26 AM
An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy.  If a 20¢ capacitor stuck in the the electrical system could increase Corporate Average Fuel Economy by 10% every car would have one.  If Ford could advertise more horse power than Chevy simply by using a spark plug with trace amounts of a rare earth element they would.
 
2013-12-11 10:45:51 AM

Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy.  If a 20¢ capacitor stuck in the the electrical system could increase Corporate Average Fuel Economy by 10% every car would have one.  If Ford could advertise more horse power than Chevy simply by using a spark plug with trace amounts of a rare earth element they would.


Exactly.  I was told once that the batteries shipped with new cars are a bit lighter than what would be ideal.  Why?  Saves a bit on the fuel economy they can claim.
 
2013-12-11 10:50:03 AM

Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy


I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.
 
2013-12-11 10:50:17 AM
What's needed is a shark ambulance chaser who's willing to do a deceptive advertising class action suit. This way the evil of these pricks will get cancelled out by the evil of the ambulance chaser. Science.
 
2013-12-11 10:52:08 AM
I love their reasoning for why it works.  Mazda uses a 25 volt capacitor, we use one that is 35 volts!  That's 10 more volts!

I think I'm going to start a competing product: The Fuel Kraken™ Release your car's inner kraken with our 50 VOLT capacitor technology!  Order today!
 
2013-12-11 10:52:55 AM
I don't give two shiats about the device itself- my issue is with the entirety of the news story, attempting to pass their piece off as credible journalism. I hope someone at the station gets shiatcanned.  If anything, it should have been framed as one of those "fraud alert" things.
 
2013-12-11 10:55:04 AM
I can tell subby is stupid and doesn't know anything about cars. It's a blue LED light subby. BLUE. You know, like the warp core in Star Trek TNG? Your snark would be justified if it were any other color, but blue is a powerful color which makes the car much stronger which makes it use less fuel. It's also a calming color, so it makes you drive much easier which uses less MPG. MPG stands for "milago par Gallono", by the way, which is Spanish for whale vagina oil, which used to be used as fuel by ancient mariners which is where the term comes from.


This is all simple psychophysioglidonamics and I'm not at all surprised you don't understand how it works.
 
2013-12-11 10:57:03 AM
Hasn't this scam been around since 1990?
 
2013-12-11 10:58:32 AM

skozlaw: I can tell subby is stupid and doesn't know anything about cars. It's a blue LED light subby. BLUE. You know, like the warp core in Star Trek TNG? Your snark would be justified if it were any other color, but blue is a powerful color which makes the car much stronger which makes it use less fuel. It's also a calming color, so it makes you drive much easier which uses less MPG. MPG stands for "milago par Gallono", by the way, which is Spanish for whale vagina oil, which used to be used as fuel by ancient mariners which is where the term comes from.


This is all simple psychophysioglidonamics and I'm not at all surprised you don't understand how it works.


This isn't Blue, Yet it increases your cars power by 1000%, how do you explain that??!

http://www.decalsusa.com/images/type%20r%20windshield%202.JPG
 
2013-12-11 10:58:39 AM

homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.


You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.
 
2013-12-11 10:59:57 AM
I just made the offer to Jalopnik to test one of these. We're doing our annual trip to AZ next week. 600 miles, hills, city, straight highway driving. Use it in one direction and not the other, couldn't get many more variables. The only real difference is that there is more of a climb coming back.... It won't work, but it would be far more scientific than the Jaguar mechanic's 10 miles on the freeway.
 
2013-12-11 11:01:34 AM

zyrian: What's needed is a shark ambulance chaser who's willing to do a deceptive advertising class action suit. This way the evil of these pricks will get cancelled out by the evil of the ambulance chaser. Science.


A little more science literacy in the general public would reduce the rate of return for the evil pricks trying to fleece gullible morons.

/pet cause, carry on
 
2013-12-11 11:03:06 AM

Mikey1969: Wow, the Jaguar mechanic's big test was 10 highway miles? Jesus, it's like he works on Mythbusters...


Tee hee!  Of course, there's an XKCD for that...

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-12-11 11:03:40 AM

CmndrFish: homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.

You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.


Or, you can get a diesel, get more torque, and low 40s fuel economy.
 
2013-12-11 11:05:09 AM

CmndrFish: homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.

You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.


Yeah, NOW you can. My car is a 2004. It can't even play MP3s.

I financed it though, and it's paid off. Regardless how much gas costs me on a weekly basis, I'm driving that thing into the ground.
 
2013-12-11 11:07:13 AM
"save up to 10% or more"? What does that even mean?
 
2013-12-11 11:11:41 AM
They claimed that it would work as well on older, carbureted cars as newer ones

Hahahahahaha wow.  It's like they're not even trying to lie.
 
2013-12-11 11:13:42 AM

Dragonflew: "save up to 10% or more"? What does that even mean?


Zero is a percent.
 
2013-12-11 11:14:41 AM

StopLurkListen: Mikey1969: Wow, the Jaguar mechanic's big test was 10 highway miles? Jesus, it's like he works on Mythbusters...

Tee hee!  Of course, there's an XKCD for that...

[imgs.xkcd.com image 599x524]


LOL, that's pretty good.
 
2013-12-11 11:15:06 AM

Dragonflew: "save up to 10% or more"? What does that even mean?


You might save some amount less than or equal to 10%, or you might an amount greater than this. Sounds perfectly clear to me. Also BS.

/I'M A FUELSHARK
 
2013-12-11 11:15:41 AM

homarjr: CmndrFish: homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.

You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.

Yeah, NOW you can. My car is a 2004. It can't even play MP3s.

I financed it though, and it's paid off. Regardless how much gas costs me on a weekly basis, I'm driving that thing into the ground.


We overvalue the price of gas because it's the one thing on a car that we pay regularly.  Yeah, you save a ton of money just by not having a monthly payment, poor fuel economy be damned.

Yeah, I have an '06 Altima with an I4 good for 175hp.  If I would've opted for a V6 it would've been 245hp.  Not sure how much I really would have noticed the difference.  Although I guess the extra gear in the transmission would have been nice.
 
2013-12-11 11:16:04 AM

Dragonflew: "save up to 10% or more"? What does that even mean?


It's what xkcd refers to as one of the "Most mathematically annoying advertising phrases around"
 
2013-12-11 11:17:08 AM
If you fill up your gas tank with marbles, then you don't have to put as much gas in your car. Save at every fill up.
 
2013-12-11 11:19:43 AM

Smoky Dragon Dish: CmndrFish: homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.

You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.

Or, you can get a diesel, get more torque, and low 40s fuel economy.


And think of the acrid exhaust!
 
2013-12-11 11:26:17 AM
Sounds legit.
 
2013-12-11 11:27:58 AM

Thank You Black Jesus!: Smoky Dragon Dish: CmndrFish: homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.

You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.

Or, you can get a diesel, get more torque, and low 40s fuel economy.

And think of the acrid exhaust!


From what I've read, TDI engines are no worse than gasoline engines in terms of emissions. I'd happily buy one if I had the money lying around.
 
2013-12-11 11:28:00 AM

CmndrFish: homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.

You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.


My I4 gets about 240 hp, with 2.2 L displacement. But my best MPG is probably 26, and it's probably about 15 the way I actually drive.
 
2013-12-11 11:30:46 AM
My favorite troll physics car accessory is still the electrolyser that uses your battery to extract hydrogen from water and then feeds it into your gas line.
 
2013-12-11 11:31:12 AM

Thank You Black Jesus!: Smoky Dragon Dish: CmndrFish: homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.

You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.

Or, you can get a diesel, get more torque, and low 40s fuel economy.

And think of the acrid exhaust!


It's not 1975 anymore, you know.
 
2013-12-11 11:32:52 AM

Mikey1969: Wow, the Jaguar mechanic's big test was 10 highway miles? Jesus, it's like he works on Mythbusters...


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-12-11 11:33:28 AM

StopLurkListen: Mikey1969: Wow, the Jaguar mechanic's big test was 10 highway miles? Jesus, it's like he works on Mythbusters...

Tee hee!  Of course, there's an XKCD for that...

[imgs.xkcd.com image 599x524]


DAMMIT!  Sorry for the repost, thread buddies.
 
2013-12-11 11:33:36 AM

tricycleracer: They claimed that it would work as well on older, carbureted cars as newer ones

Hahahahahaha wow.  It's like they're not even trying to lie.


Did you not see the part where it has TEN MORE VOLTS than the Mazda system?

It's like people don't even read.
 
2013-12-11 11:34:59 AM

Thank You Black Jesus!: Smoky Dragon Dish: CmndrFish: homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.

You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.

Or, you can get a diesel, get more torque, and low 40s fuel economy.

And think of the acrid exhaust!


And the fact that you can't get the things to rev for love or money.  Which is, I suppose, only really an issue when you're trying to downshift, but still.
 
2013-12-11 11:42:52 AM
Why are you all so anti-boot-strappy?  The business is just trying to break in to the the snakeoil market.
 
2013-12-11 11:44:10 AM
I stopped driving like a douche and gained 5mpg instantly.
 
2013-12-11 11:44:23 AM

Smoky Dragon Dish: Thank You Black Jesus!: Smoky Dragon Dish: CmndrFish: homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.

You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.

Or, you can get a diesel, get more torque, and low 40s fuel economy.

And think of the acrid exhaust!

It's not 1975 anymore, you know.


I still see giant clouds of black particulates coming out of diesel pickup trucks. Black clouds that almost envelop the truck at one point.
 
2013-12-11 11:46:30 AM

CmndrFish: homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.

You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.


I have a 2005 RenaultSport Clio that is pushing 200bhp naturally aspirated.  If I'm good I can get 35mpg (that's US MPG, 42 UK MPG), unfortunately I'm not usually good, I have a heavy foot so I only usually get about 25MPG (30 UK MPG), it's fun as hell though.
 
2013-12-11 11:47:25 AM
What was that one gimmick called? It was a disk you put in the air intake that created a cyclone affect to better mix the gas and air or some horse shiat
 
2013-12-11 11:47:28 AM
Why would US and UK MPG differ?
 
2013-12-11 11:48:05 AM

Dragonflew: "save up to 10% or more"? What does that even mean?


imgs.xkcd.com

/we could have entire conversations using XKCD
 
2013-12-11 11:48:15 AM
when I fill the tank up it takes about 50 miles for the needle to move off the "F" part.  It moves much faster after that.  I figure it has something to do with the lack of air in the fuel tank.  I'm now keeping the tank as full as I can.  I'm thinking about a kickstarter for a bladder that will fill the tank as the car uses fuel.  Who's with me?
 
2013-12-11 11:48:44 AM

Mikey1969: Smoky Dragon Dish: Thank You Black Jesus!: Smoky Dragon Dish: CmndrFish: homarjr: Cheron: An engineer I used to work for always said that car companies are under great pressure to up horse power and increase fuel economy

I'd like to think that horse power is much, much less of a concern nowadays. Maybe it's just me though.

One of the biggest regrets of my life was financing a V6.

You can now get naturally aspirated I4's that produce almost 200hp and will still get you mid-30's in highway MPG, or the very latest V6's that can get 300hp and still get mid to high 20's in highway MPG.

Horsepower still matters, but you don't need massive amounts of displacement anymore to get it.

Or, you can get a diesel, get more torque, and low 40s fuel economy.

And think of the acrid exhaust!

It's not 1975 anymore, you know.

I still see giant clouds of black particulates coming out of diesel pickup trucks. Black clouds that almost envelop the truck at one point.


That's not the diesel fuel, that's a terrible exhaust system, a crappily maintained enginem and probably some engine oil.

Modern diesel engines you'd get in a new car are freaking clean.  They need to meet the same emissions standards as every other car on the road.
 
2013-12-11 11:52:12 AM

acronym: when I fill the tank up it takes about 50 miles for the needle to move off the "F" part.  It moves much faster after that.  I figure it has something to do with the lack of air in the fuel tank.  I'm now keeping the tank as full as I can.  I'm thinking about a kickstarter for a bladder that will fill the tank as the car uses fuel.  Who's with me?


shape of the fuel tank. my Mustang has an odd shape, first 75 miles the needle doesnt move, then it moves irratically.

Low Fuel means Out of Fuel though... hate that. my Saturn would turn on the light when I was down to 2 galons. Stang seems to be down to 2 miles
 
2013-12-11 11:53:34 AM
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Best fuel saving accessory on the market today.
 
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