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(Pajiba)   Who would dare to call Sir Ian McKellan a 'fruity actor' who could 'only play wizards'? Damian Lewis, that's who   ( pajiba.com) divider line
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2013-12-11 12:08:01 AM  
2 votes:

Dwight_Yeast: cygnusx13: Mugato: Am I missing something or has he only played one wizard? Unless the guy thinks Magneto is a wizard.

Those stage actors can be pretentious. Apparently it took forever to convince Alan Rickman to do Die Hard because he though it was beneath him. He's obviously gotten over that attitude since then.

He'$ ¢ertainly more ₩illing to £end his talents to Holl¥wood.

Aside from playing Snape in Harry Potter, he's not worked in Hollywood in a decade, and everything he's doing right now is bits in indie films.

He played Snape for two reasons:

1) when they asked JK Rowlings who she wanted she said she'd written him with Alan Rickman in mind (I read the first book soon after it was published and even I could only see him as Rickman, which is rare for me, I don't hear characters in my head).

2) He knew that his kids would never let him live down turning down a part in Harry Potter


/as far as I'm concerned, "I did it for my kids" is ALWAYS a valid excuse.


which pre-2003 non-Hollywood, indie project of his did you like the best?  Sweeney Todd (2007), Alice in Wonderland (2010) or Gambit (2012)?
2013-12-10 05:47:59 PM  
2 votes:

B.L.Z. Bub: This story just made McKellen sound like a crybaby drama queen:  http://www.contactmusic.com/story/ian-mckellen-offered-to-quit-the-ho b bit-on-the-first-day_3979269

"THIS IS NOT WHY I BECAME AN ACTOR!" As if he expected it to be farking Shakespeare. I can understand being frustrated with the setup he was put in, but A) You deal with frustrations as an actor by sacking up and doing your best, not breaking down crying and making everything about you; and B) How could he not have experienced similar frustrations with the LOTR movies? The same technical challenges were in those movies too (i.e., putting Gandalf and shrunken-down actors in the same shot), so he had to know what he was getting into when he joined The Hobbit.

Yes, he's unquestionably a great actor, but that doesn't entitle someone to act like a little biatch when things don't go their way.


I didn't read that as him acting all diva-ish because things didn't go his way.  As an actor, he's got to be able to react or play off something.  It sounds like he wasn't prepped and thrown onto the set.  In LOTR, they worked a lot w/forced perspective.  Here we are, over a decade later, and CGI has come a long way, baby.  They don't need to rely on camera tricks anymore, they can just use software to splice everything together.
2013-12-10 05:14:46 PM  
2 votes:
/looks at the article...

And that's why he's Sir Ian McKellen and you're just someone playing a wannabe traitor/jidhadist in a bad farking sendup of "24".
2013-12-10 04:58:58 PM  
2 votes:
Sir Ian's response was priceless.  That is how it is done.  Even as he verbally garotted Lewis, It was classy and almost polite.  It makes me sad because I know that our guttural exchanges even by most of our leaders is vulgar.  Not because of the words they use, but because of the lack of thought that clearly went into them.
2013-12-11 04:46:35 AM  
1 vote:

fusillade762: Band of Brothers was over a decade ago. It's not like Lewis is some kind of up-and-coming actor noob.


He's also someone whose career has drifted sideways for a decade, which never makes an aspiring actor happy.  Look at the crew from The Wire for comparison. Hell, look at Band of Brothers: you've got Tom Hardy and Michael Fassbinder, who are almost movie stars, and certainly two of the most interesting actors of their generation.
2013-12-10 11:16:07 PM  
1 vote:

cygnusx13: Mugato: Am I missing something or has he only played one wizard? Unless the guy thinks Magneto is a wizard.

Those stage actors can be pretentious. Apparently it took forever to convince Alan Rickman to do Die Hard because he though it was beneath him. He's obviously gotten over that attitude since then.

He'$ ¢ertainly more ₩illing to £end his talents to Holl¥wood.


Aside from playing Snape in Harry Potter, he's not worked in Hollywood in a decade, and everything he's doing right now is bits in indie films.

He played Snape for two reasons:

1) when they asked JK Rowlings who she wanted she said she'd written him with Alan Rickman in mind (I read the first book soon after it was published and even I could only see him as Rickman, which is rare for me, I don't hear characters in my head).

2) He knew that his kids would never let him live down turning down a part in Harry Potter


/as far as I'm concerned, "I did it for my kids" is ALWAYS a valid excuse.
2013-12-10 08:23:43 PM  
1 vote:
p.vitalmx.com
I don't get it, what is so fruity about Gambon?
2013-12-10 07:51:01 PM  
1 vote:
I just loved this movie. No wizards anywhere. But he was a fruit in it. But who wouldn't be, for a young Brendan Fraser?

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I saw Damien Lewis in some Masterpiece Theatre series where he played a psycho husband, and he was scary. This was before he was known for anything. He is a good actor.
2013-12-10 07:39:00 PM  
1 vote:
TFA: Without naming names (though, it's obvious to whom Lewis is referring, McKellan and Michael Gamon),

Could also refer to Sylvester McCoy.

Also, the context from the original Guardian article:

But for years he was happy with the RSC. Then the hours started to pall. And something else: "I started to feel that the theatre world was rather a small one. I've always equated life with travel, with places to see and go. Theatre takes away your evenings and weekends. And after six or seven years, it really started to bother me that I was going to work when everyone else was coming home. I was dying to just get up in the morning and live the day."

What does that say about him? "I don't know. It might mean that at heart I'm quite conventional. Maybe yearning for something that was a bit more structured. But, of course, preferable to getting on the tube at 7am to go to an office and turn in a full solid day." He worried that he was backing his career into a corner. "The idea that I would be one of these slightly over-the-top, fruity actors who would have an illustrious career on stage, but wouldn't start getting any kind of film work until I was 50 and then start playing wizards."
2013-12-10 07:02:55 PM  
1 vote:
Ian McKellan is a cool guy. But Damian Lewis does have something of a point -- even if he has to be a douchebag about it. McKellan is a Shakespearian actor who is typecast frequently. He's used to certain roles and from what I've heard he has trouble adapting that role on certain occasions. I seem to recall James Marsden commenting that Sir Ian took several takes on one scene in X2 where Magneto rhetorically asks, "When will these people learn how to fly?"

McKellan was used to stage acting, playing Shakespearian characters. So when he goes to film... he typically is cast in those sorts of roles. Damien Lewis has a point there.

But Damien Lewis also didn't mention that McKellan isn't the only Shakespearian actor who is often typecast. Like Anthony Hopkins who plays Anthony Hopkins in every movie. Or Liam Neeson playing Liam Neeson in every movie (although I think Taken kind of broke that trend). Christopher Lee playing Christopher Lee in every film.

I mean part of me agrees with the guy -- but it's taken out of context of the bigger picture that there are many well-known actors and actresses from Shakespearian theatre who have a difficult time transitioning to film acting. I mean they aren't chameleons like Daniel Day-Lewis, or Gary Oldman. They have a presence and a charisma that they best portray on screen (and on stage), and that's what they get cast for. So BFD if that's what McKellan gets cast for.

It's still more than what Lewis has accomplished in his career.
2013-12-10 06:54:44 PM  
1 vote:

TheShavingofOccam123: Shame on you, Damian.

Enjoy the years of panto ahead of you.


Ian's actually played The Dame in panto.

Lewis is going to end up being the guy they call when Jason Stratham has said "no", and Jason isn't exactly being offered A-actor scripts.
2013-12-10 06:54:32 PM  
1 vote:
All of a sudden Ross is lookin pretty good, huh?

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2013-12-10 06:50:06 PM  
1 vote:
That's a shame.  I've been a fan of Damien Lewis's since forever.  He was easily the best part of that godawful Deamcatcher's movie based off a Stephen King novel.
2013-12-10 06:49:38 PM  
1 vote:
Yeah I'm sorry Damian but you peaked early, you'll never top Major Winters no matter what you do. Where as Mckellan has played two iconic roles in two seperate franchises and done them exceedingly well, on top of doing other film and theater work.

And there is nothing fruity about Mckellan's Gandalf.
2013-12-10 05:59:13 PM  
1 vote:

someonelse: I have never heard of Damian Lewis.


He was awesome in Band of Brothers, most everyone in BoB was pretty good, though.
2013-12-10 05:53:34 PM  
1 vote:
I have never heard of Damian Lewis.
2013-12-10 04:59:17 PM  
1 vote:
Who???
 
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