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(Pajiba)   Who would dare to call Sir Ian McKellan a 'fruity actor' who could 'only play wizards'? Damian Lewis, that's who   (pajiba.com) divider line 108
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2013-12-10 07:26:18 PM  
What a wizard may look like:

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2013-12-10 07:27:24 PM  

fickenchucker: someonelse: TheShavingofOccam123: Mugato: someonelse: I have never heard of Damian Lewis.

He was in that movie about his left foot.

That was Carl Lewis. You know, the famous poll vaulter. I think it was his plant foot.

No, you're thinking of Richard Lewis, the Great Balls of Fire guy.

No, that's Jerry Lewis, the singer. Richard was in some show with Cosmo Kramer.


No, that's Larry David.  Cosmo Kramer was in some movie with Steve Buscemi.
 
2013-12-10 07:39:00 PM  
TFA: Without naming names (though, it's obvious to whom Lewis is referring, McKellan and Michael Gamon),

Could also refer to Sylvester McCoy.

Also, the context from the original Guardian article:

But for years he was happy with the RSC. Then the hours started to pall. And something else: "I started to feel that the theatre world was rather a small one. I've always equated life with travel, with places to see and go. Theatre takes away your evenings and weekends. And after six or seven years, it really started to bother me that I was going to work when everyone else was coming home. I was dying to just get up in the morning and live the day."

What does that say about him? "I don't know. It might mean that at heart I'm quite conventional. Maybe yearning for something that was a bit more structured. But, of course, preferable to getting on the tube at 7am to go to an office and turn in a full solid day." He worried that he was backing his career into a corner. "The idea that I would be one of these slightly over-the-top, fruity actors who would have an illustrious career on stage, but wouldn't start getting any kind of film work until I was 50 and then start playing wizards."
 
2013-12-10 07:45:18 PM  

BeatrixK: Damian Lewis is getting offed on Sunday anyway.

/em>


Wow. Ian McKellan don't fark around. Called up Lewis and probably said something like, "For your slander you will be slain. At Sunset, on the Sabbath, your stain shall be erased. Further, I am not a fruit. I am a Queen, and I expect to be treated as such. Good day to you, Sir."

Sir Ian is just that cool. He could rape you and make the experience pleasant.

/My little world is an interesting place.
//The government gives me drugs which I must take.
///Because of the ruling.
 
2013-12-10 07:49:06 PM  

The Voice of Doom: TFA: Without naming names (though, it's obvious to whom Lewis is referring, McKellan and Michael Gamon),

Could also refer to Sylvester McCoy.

Also, the context from the original Guardian article:

But for years he was happy with the RSC. Then the hours started to pall. And something else: "I started to feel that the theatre world was rather a small one. I've always equated life with travel, with places to see and go. Theatre takes away your evenings and weekends. And after six or seven years, it really started to bother me that I was going to work when everyone else was coming home. I was dying to just get up in the morning and live the day."

What does that say about him? "I don't know. It might mean that at heart I'm quite conventional. Maybe yearning for something that was a bit more structured. But, of course, preferable to getting on the tube at 7am to go to an office and turn in a full solid day." He worried that he was backing his career into a corner. "The idea that I would be one of these slightly over-the-top, fruity actors who would have an illustrious career on stage, but wouldn't start getting any kind of film work until I was 50 and then start playing wizards."


I dunno, dude. It doesn't make you sound much better. The way you're going, you could be one of those over-the-top not-quite-so fruity actors who has a semi-illustrious stage career, and end up being William Shatner.
 
2013-12-10 07:51:01 PM  
I just loved this movie. No wizards anywhere. But he was a fruit in it. But who wouldn't be, for a young Brendan Fraser?

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I saw Damien Lewis in some Masterpiece Theatre series where he played a psycho husband, and he was scary. This was before he was known for anything. He is a good actor.
 
2013-12-10 08:01:42 PM  

Flappyhead: Yes, shame on McKellan for playing an iconic character in fantasy literature.  Also I hear he played Gandalf.


He was also Magenta, the mutant who could move red things around just by touching them.
 
2013-12-10 08:02:03 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Lewis is going to end up being the guy they call when Jason Stratham has said "no", and Jason isn't exactly being offered A-actor scripts.


Lewis still has Band of Brothers under his belt.  I think he'll be OK.
 
2013-12-10 08:08:55 PM  

carrion_luggage: Flappyhead: Yes, shame on McKellan for playing an iconic character in fantasy literature.  Also I hear he played Gandalf.

He was also Magenta, the mutant who could move red things around just by touching them.


...but only when Rif Raf wasn't looking
 
2013-12-10 08:10:34 PM  

Mugato: Am I missing something or has he only played one wizard? Unless the guy thinks Magneto is a wizard.


Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White. Also David Copperfield.

/I have no idea either
 
2013-12-10 08:13:15 PM  
Thats a shame. I really liked him in Life ( short lived nbc series ) and Band of Brothers. Oh well, I dont have to care what he says.
 
2013-12-10 08:23:43 PM  
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I don't get it, what is so fruity about Gambon?
 
2013-12-10 08:27:03 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Is this season of Homeland worth watching? I think I made it two or three episodes and then never bothered to finish.


eh, not really. It's ticked up in quality the last few episodes, but it seems to have some weird pacing due to them dicking around way too much in the first half. If they had minimised almost all of the first half's plots into 2 or 3 episodes (maybe just 1 for anything involving Brody's family), it probably would've made it a little easier to spread out everything else; now it's more interesting, but everything feels a bit rushed.
 
2013-12-10 08:58:46 PM  

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I don't get it, what is so fruity about Gambon?


Have you ever seen the video of why it's called the Gambon corner?  I think he came closer to rolling the Reasonably-Priced Car than anyone else in the modern history of the show; it's truly frightening.

Summer Glau's Love Slave: BeatrixK: Damian Lewis is getting offed on Sunday anyway./em>

Wow. Ian McKellan don't fark around. Called up Lewis and probably said something like, "For your slander you will be slain. At Sunset, on the Sabbath, your stain shall be erased. Further, I am not a fruit. I am a Queen, and I expect to be treated as such. Good day to you, Sir."


It's a little simpler than that; McKellan is head of MI-5.  The head of MI-6?  John Hurt.

You see, during the later 1960s and early 70s, after the Anthony Blunt thing, British Intelligence started recruiting from the theater world. Why? Well they were all already thought to be fruits and bloshies, they could easily travel the world, working on stage or on "good-will tour" and really, who better than actors to try to pretend to be people they weren't?  It also explains good actors turning up in crap movies made in places like Yugoslavia in the 1970s.

The amazing thing is that they turned out to be quite good at it and many of them have ended up in high positions in Intelligence, so they continue to take what work they can which will fit around their "real lives".  There's a reason McKellan has spent so long in New Zealand in the last 15 years.  And why John Hurt was playing a dragon on a crap kids show.

Dame Helen Mirran playing "M" was just a sly tip of the hat to the whole situation.
 
2013-12-10 09:04:32 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: eh, not really. It's ticked up in quality the last few episodes, but it seems to have some weird pacing due to them dicking around way too much in the first half. If they had minimised almost all of the first half's plots into 2 or 3 episodes (maybe just 1 for anything involving Brody's family), it probably would've made it a little easier to spread out everything else; now it's more interesting, but everything feels a bit rushed.


Thanks. It was when I was fast-forwarding through every scene with Brody's family that I finally realized I only liked like a third of the show.
 
2013-12-10 09:09:50 PM  
Homeland is dull.
 
2013-12-10 09:10:50 PM  

Lsherm: Dwight_Yeast: Lewis is going to end up being the guy they call when Jason Stratham has said "no", and Jason isn't exactly being offered A-actor scripts.

Lewis still has Band of Brothers under his belt.  I think he'll be OK.


Maybe there will be a "Dreamcatcher:2".
 
2013-12-10 09:35:17 PM  
 
2013-12-10 09:37:58 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Is this season of Homeland worth watching? I think I made it two or three episodes and then never bothered to finish.


It is, surprisingly.  The beginning starts off utterly crap, and three episodes in I was convinced this was turning into a spy-themed Steinbeck novel. "It's not depressing enough, add some heroin addiction and involuntary psychiatric committal!"  By four it starts to turn around a little bit, and then from five on it's pretty damn solid.

Fair warning: this season is a little light on a lot of the principals from previous seasons.  Morena Baccarin is only in a few episodes (and no nude scenes :C ), Damien Lewis is absent for more than half the season and really not functional for much of what he IS around for, Diego Klattenhoff is in for basically five minutes as a guest appearance (busy on The Blacklist I guess), and on and on.  This season is almost exclusively Carrie, Saul, Quinn et al.  Still very good, but if you watch it to see Damien Lewis be inscrutable and conflicted this isn't the season for you, at least until towards the end.
 
2013-12-10 09:42:23 PM  

someonelse: I have never heard of Damian Lewis.


You have now. That's the whole point of the article, honestly - new actor throwing shade at old actor, solely to attract attention from not just the old actor, but also from all of the spectators who then have to tweet the "no shiat, there I was..." bits to anyone that they think might give a rat's rancid rectum over an actor slapfight.
 
2013-12-10 09:51:24 PM  

deadsanta: Oh so, he thinks it's better to do this sort of film role instead?

/a completely sfw idiotic scene from Dreamcatcher, one of many that Lewis appeared in, in that POS.


Dude, I had no idea who the actor was, and haven't seen that movie since it was in the theater, but as soon as I read your comment I knew what was coming. Though if you're going to bring that up, the next part is so much worse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIrcwTnfTok
 
2013-12-10 10:02:41 PM  

Mugato: Am I missing something or has he only played one wizard? Unless the guy thinks Magneto is a wizard.

Those stage actors can be pretentious. Apparently it took forever to convince Alan Rickman to do Die Hard because he though it was beneath him. He's obviously gotten over that attitude since then.


He'$ ¢ertainly more ₩illing to £end his talents to Holl¥wood.
 
2013-12-10 10:03:30 PM  
The real issue is the US needs to tighten up the immigration rules ta stop these Brits that come over here and take away te jobs of struggling Amurican Actors!

I mean even Al Capone!  The Director of the CIA! A Chicago Fire Chief! A Baltimore hood! Even the guy on THE AMERICANS!

We don't see, say Mel Gibson playing Hamlet or an American doing Queen Elizabeth do ya?   Well, do ya?
 
2013-12-10 10:04:02 PM  

vabeard: Lsherm: Dwight_Yeast: Lewis is going to end up being the guy they call when Jason Stratham has said "no", and Jason isn't exactly being offered A-actor scripts.

Lewis still has Band of Brothers under his belt.  I think he'll be OK.

Maybe there will be a "Dreamcatcher:2".


Electric Boogaloo
 
2013-12-10 10:07:49 PM  

Twist2005: Was the author trolling with the Harry Potter movies bit? Because that would be awesome.


He'd already mentioned Michael Gambon (though he spelled it wrong) earlier, so I think he must have meant "or" rather than "and" in that sentence. Or he's an idiot.
 
2013-12-10 10:14:53 PM  

cygnusx13: vabeard: Lsherm: Dwight_Yeast: Lewis is going to end up being the guy they call when Jason Stratham has said "no", and Jason isn't exactly being offered A-actor scripts.

Lewis still has Band of Brothers under his belt.  I think he'll be OK.

Maybe there will be a "Dreamcatcher:2".

Electric shiat Weasel Boogaloo


FTFY
 
2013-12-10 10:34:11 PM  

Mugato: He's only 74? He's only a year older than Picard and he looks like his dad.


That's because Patrick Stewart has the same magic potion that Sylvester Stallone and Tom Cruise to keep from aging.
 
2013-12-10 10:35:46 PM  
Damien who? Oh OH! You mean that guy who I only know from Band of Brothers, that guy. Yeah, he sure can talk shiat about Ian McKellen *scoff.*

Eat my ass, dude from Band of Brothers.
 
2013-12-10 10:59:10 PM  

fickenchucker: someonelse: TheShavingofOccam123: Mugato: someonelse: I have never heard of Damian Lewis.

He was in that movie about his left foot.

That was Carl Lewis. You know, the famous poll vaulter. I think it was his plant foot.

No, you're thinking of Richard Lewis, the Great Balls of Fire guy.

No, that's Jerry Lewis, the singer. Richard was in some show with Cosmo Kramer.


I think we're way off-track, here. He was asking about Damien Lewis. To answer THAT question, he's an actor who rose to fame during an 80's sitcom called Webster.
 
2013-12-10 11:05:46 PM  

meanmutton: Mugato: He's only 74? He's only a year older than Picard and he looks like his dad.

That's because Patrick Stewart has the same magic potion that Sylvester Stallone and Tom Cruise to keep from aging.


So it worked for Stewart but not Stallone or Cruise? How does that happen?
 
2013-12-10 11:10:25 PM  

meanmutton: Mugato: He's only 74? He's only a year older than Picard and he looks like his dad.

That's because Patrick Stewart has the same magic potion that Sylvester Stallone and Tom Cruise to keep from aging.


That's because Patrick Stewart has always looked 73. He was only 47 when he started doing TNG,.
 
2013-12-10 11:16:07 PM  

cygnusx13: Mugato: Am I missing something or has he only played one wizard? Unless the guy thinks Magneto is a wizard.

Those stage actors can be pretentious. Apparently it took forever to convince Alan Rickman to do Die Hard because he though it was beneath him. He's obviously gotten over that attitude since then.

He'$ ¢ertainly more ₩illing to £end his talents to Holl¥wood.


Aside from playing Snape in Harry Potter, he's not worked in Hollywood in a decade, and everything he's doing right now is bits in indie films.

He played Snape for two reasons:

1) when they asked JK Rowlings who she wanted she said she'd written him with Alan Rickman in mind (I read the first book soon after it was published and even I could only see him as Rickman, which is rare for me, I don't hear characters in my head).

2) He knew that his kids would never let him live down turning down a part in Harry Potter


/as far as I'm concerned, "I did it for my kids" is ALWAYS a valid excuse.
 
2013-12-10 11:18:05 PM  

puckrock2000: That's because Patrick Stewart has always looked 73. He was only 47 when he started doing TNG,.


He looks like he's 47 when he showed up playing a centurion in I, Claudius, and he was in his 30s at the time.

/premature balding can be a blessing once you accept it.
 
2013-12-11 12:08:01 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: cygnusx13: Mugato: Am I missing something or has he only played one wizard? Unless the guy thinks Magneto is a wizard.

Those stage actors can be pretentious. Apparently it took forever to convince Alan Rickman to do Die Hard because he though it was beneath him. He's obviously gotten over that attitude since then.

He'$ ¢ertainly more ₩illing to £end his talents to Holl¥wood.

Aside from playing Snape in Harry Potter, he's not worked in Hollywood in a decade, and everything he's doing right now is bits in indie films.

He played Snape for two reasons:

1) when they asked JK Rowlings who she wanted she said she'd written him with Alan Rickman in mind (I read the first book soon after it was published and even I could only see him as Rickman, which is rare for me, I don't hear characters in my head).

2) He knew that his kids would never let him live down turning down a part in Harry Potter


/as far as I'm concerned, "I did it for my kids" is ALWAYS a valid excuse.


which pre-2003 non-Hollywood, indie project of his did you like the best?  Sweeney Todd (2007), Alice in Wonderland (2010) or Gambit (2012)?
 
2013-12-11 12:11:40 AM  

FormlessOne: someonelse: I have never heard of Damian Lewis.

You have now. That's the whole point of the article, honestly - new actor throwing shade at old actor, solely to attract attention from not just the old actor, but also from all of the spectators who then have to tweet the "no shiat, there I was..." bits to anyone that they think might give a rat's rancid rectum over an actor slapfight.


Band of Brothers was over a decade ago. It's not like Lewis is some kind of up-and-coming actor noob.
 
2013-12-11 02:48:09 AM  
The White Wizard requires White Knights?
 
2013-12-11 03:06:22 AM  
Richard III was a wizard? That does explain how his skeleton got under a parking lot.

/Your move, David Blaine
 
2013-12-11 04:01:17 AM  
Lewis is a decent actor but he has no class.
 
2013-12-11 04:46:35 AM  

fusillade762: Band of Brothers was over a decade ago. It's not like Lewis is some kind of up-and-coming actor noob.


He's also someone whose career has drifted sideways for a decade, which never makes an aspiring actor happy.  Look at the crew from The Wire for comparison. Hell, look at Band of Brothers: you've got Tom Hardy and Michael Fassbinder, who are almost movie stars, and certainly two of the most interesting actors of their generation.
 
2013-12-11 04:47:41 AM  
To be fair, that comment could also as easily have been describing Christopher Lee or Patrick Stewart.  They were both small-time actors limited to the small screen until they started getting big parts in pop movies as older men... also playing wizards, for some damn reason (Professor X for Stewart, Count Dooku and Saruman for Lee).

// Don't even start on the psychic guy that has whatever godlike magical powers the plot demands but never the powers he logically should have that would solve the plot in minutes "not being a wizard".  Because that's exactly what that is: use the exact same script, tape on a beard and change his name to "Merlin" and market the movies as a spinoff of Arthurian mythology and no one would have particularly called bullshiat.
 
2013-12-11 05:18:12 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: This story just made McKellen sound like a crybaby drama queen:  http://www.contactmusic.com/story/ian-mckellen-offered-to-quit-the-ho b bit-on-the-first-day_3979269

"THIS IS NOT WHY I BECAME AN ACTOR!" As if he expected it to be farking Shakespeare. I can understand being frustrated with the setup he was put in, but A) You deal with frustrations as an actor by sacking up and doing your best, not breaking down crying and making everything about you; and B) How could he not have experienced similar frustrations with the LOTR movies? The same technical challenges were in those movies too (i.e., putting Gandalf and shrunken-down actors in the same shot), so he had to know what he was getting into when he joined The Hobbit.

Yes, he's unquestionably a great actor, but that doesn't entitle someone to act like a little biatch when things don't go their way.


Then he looked at his paycheck and talked to empty chairs.
 
2013-12-11 05:21:35 AM  
How does he act so well?!?!?

Sir Damian Sir Damian Sir Damian "CARRIE, GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!" Sir Damian Sir Damian Sir Damian
 
2013-12-11 06:22:55 AM  
Who the fark is Damian Lewis?
 
2013-12-11 06:31:03 AM  

Max Awesome: Who the fark is Damian Lewis?


I think I found his IMDB profile.  Nothing I've seen on it.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507073/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
 
2013-12-11 07:05:33 AM  

Alphax: Max Awesome: Who the fark is Damian Lewis?

I think I found his IMDB profile.  Nothing I've seen on it.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507073/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1


As mentioned above, his best work was in the role of Major Dick Winters in Band Of Brothers.  Worth checking out if you're into the war thing.
 
2013-12-11 08:35:48 AM  

Thunderboy: Alphax: Max Awesome: Who the fark is Damian Lewis?

I think I found his IMDB profile.  Nothing I've seen on it.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507073/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

As mentioned above, his best work was in the role of Major Dick Winters in Band Of Brothers.  Worth checking out if you're into the war thing.


Well, there you have it - If your most lauded role is being a Major Dick, it's just a matter of typecasting.
 
2013-12-11 09:04:34 AM  

fickenchucker: That's what kind of interesting about good actors. Nazi in one movie, angry Jew abused by Nazis in another. And we mortals wonder why most of them are kind of weird. They have all sorts of crap floating around their emotional and creative heads.


Bull shiat. Anybody can be an actor. For farks sake.
 
2013-12-11 09:19:25 AM  

Alphax: Max Awesome: Who the fark is Damian Lewis?

I think I found his IMDB profile.  Nothing I've seen on it.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507073/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1


Life is worth checking out, it is/was on Netflix.  Cancelled by NBC so that Leno could have his shiatty earlier timespot show though :(
 
2013-12-11 09:29:38 AM  

Mugato: Am I missing something or has he only played one wizard? Unless the guy thinks Magneto is a wizard.

Those stage actors can be pretentious. Apparently it took forever to convince Alan Rickman to do Die Hard because he though it was beneath him. He's obviously gotten over that attitude since then.


Beneath him? Who does he think he is, the voice of God?
 
2013-12-11 10:10:41 AM  

Jim_Callahan: To be fair, that comment could also as easily have been describing Christopher Lee or Patrick Stewart.  They were both small-time actors limited to the small screen until they started getting big parts in pop movies as older men... also playing wizards, for some damn reason (Professor X for Stewart, Count Dooku and Saruman for Lee).

// Don't even start on the psychic guy that has whatever godlike magical powers the plot demands but never the powers he logically should have that would solve the plot in minutes "not being a wizard".  Because that's exactly what that is: use the exact same script, tape on a beard and change his name to "Merlin" and market the movies as a spinoff of Arthurian mythology and no one would have particularly called bullshiat.


Say what? Christopher Lee was a horror film legend before Damian Lewis was born, and Stewartbhad played roles in films like Excalibur and Lifeforce before being cast in ST:TNG.
 
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