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2013-12-10 04:47:58 PM  
10 votes:
Goddammit, they Just. Don't. F♥cking. Get it.  Do they?

This is clearly going to be yet another Man versus Disaster/Monster movie. It's humanity fighting against Godzilla and they're treating Godzilla as a natural disaster yet again.

But the appeal of Godzilla movies is not "giant monster destroys city and is repelled by clever humans" -- It was NEVER that. It was "Godzilla gets in a fight with another giant monster, and together they destroy the city until one is defeated and the other leaves town."

The appeal of Godzilla is the kaiju battles, not the goddamn military shooting shiat at a giant monster while some subplot with characters we're supposed to love plods onward showing how devastated they are by the destruction until one of them comes up with a Hail Mary plan that drives the monster away/destroys the monster.

Yes, the first Godzilla was like that... In 1954 when Godzilla was analogous to the atomic threat. And then they went on and made his movies interestingby having Godzilla fight other kaiju. And NONE OF US really waxes nostalgic about 1954 Godzilla. We remember the ones where he's fighting other kaiju, not the one where he's just  crushing the city and being repelled by humans.

I had such high hopes for this movie, but it looks like it's basically going to be Cloverfield, Godzilla 1954, Godzilla 1998, and every other disaster film in the past 50 years.

Look, producers: It's EASY.  Godzilla movies are 1/2 disaster movie, and 1/2 pro wrestling with giant fricking monsters. That's IT. You can have your disaster movie crap, but you MUST include the over-the-top fighting. You MUST include another monster, and the ENTIRE last reel of the film should be spent on the two monsters fighting.

Build-up
Arrival
Fight
End

That's it. That's goddamned ALL there is to it, and you had to artsy-fartsy f♥ck it all up and change the f♥cking formula. Goddamn, this is disappointing-looking.
2013-12-10 05:17:28 PM  
4 votes:

ZeroCorpse: Goddammit, they Just. Don't. F♥cking. Get it.  Do they?

This is clearly going to be yet another Man versus Disaster/Monster movie. It's humanity fighting against Godzilla and they're treating Godzilla as a natural disaster yet again.

But the appeal of Godzilla movies is not "giant monster destroys city and is repelled by clever humans" -- It was NEVER that. It was "Godzilla gets in a fight with another giant monster, and together they destroy the city until one is defeated and the other leaves town."

The appeal of Godzilla is the kaiju battles, not the goddamn military shooting shiat at a giant monster while some subplot with characters we're supposed to love plods onward showing how devastated they are by the destruction until one of them comes up with a Hail Mary plan that drives the monster away/destroys the monster.

Yes, the first Godzilla was like that... In 1954 when Godzilla was analogous to the atomic threat. And then they went on and made his movies interestingby having Godzilla fight other kaiju. And NONE OF US really waxes nostalgic about 1954 Godzilla. We remember the ones where he's fighting other kaiju, not the one where he's just  crushing the city and being repelled by humans.

I had such high hopes for this movie, but it looks like it's basically going to be Cloverfield, Godzilla 1954, Godzilla 1998, and every other disaster film in the past 50 years.

Look, producers: It's EASY.  Godzilla movies are 1/2 disaster movie, and 1/2 pro wrestling with giant fricking monsters. That's IT. You can have your disaster movie crap, but you MUST include the over-the-top fighting. You MUST include another monster, and the ENTIRE last reel of the film should be spent on the two monsters fighting.

Build-up
Arrival
Fight
End

That's it. That's goddamned ALL there is to it, and you had to artsy-fartsy f♥ck it all up and change the f♥cking formula. Goddamn, this is disappointing-looking.


Actually its YOU who doesn't farking get it.
Yes... the Kaiju battles are a fun romp...but Godzilla films have always had a moral underpinning and every single one has been about environmentalism. Every single one. While not the obvious to the casual English speaking observer watching them dubbed over...but its there.

and "Yes, the first Godzilla was like that... In 1954 when Godzilla was analogous to the atomic threat. And then they went on and made his movies interestingby having Godzilla fight other kaiju "

Really?  The original movie was discussing Atomic bombs...but it was really a direct allegory to the mass firebombing we inflicted on Japan during the waining days of WWII. At the time it was made by and for an audience who lived through those horrors. It featured special effects that at the time were state of the art, or horrifying to the movie goer of the day.
"And NONE OF US really waxes nostalgic about 1954 Godzilla. We remember the ones where he's fighting other kaiju, not the one where he's  just  crushing the city and being repelled by humans"


None of us?  speak for yourself tard.  the original 1954 Gojira is a classic master piece of mid-century SciFi Horror cinema. Without which Kaiju as a medium would not exist. Sure eventually the Toho films became more and more about camp for a while.  And I'm sorry your limited imagination can't handle any attempt at depth.  Clearly we know what it is that you enjoy about Kaiju films and TV...but you speak from ignorance, and do NOT speak for the rest of "US", many people, like myself, enjoy more than just fan-service.
2013-12-10 05:08:38 PM  
4 votes:

ZeroCorpse: Goddammit, they Just. Don't. F♥cking. Get it.  Do they?

This is clearly going to be yet another Man versus Disaster/Monster movie. It's humanity fighting against Godzilla and they're treating Godzilla as a natural disaster yet again.

But the appeal of Godzilla movies is not "giant monster destroys city and is repelled by clever humans" -- It was NEVER that. It was "Godzilla gets in a fight with another giant monster, and together they destroy the city until one is defeated and the other leaves town."

The appeal of Godzilla is the kaiju battles, not the goddamn military shooting shiat at a giant monster while some subplot with characters we're supposed to love plods onward showing how devastated they are by the destruction until one of them comes up with a Hail Mary plan that drives the monster away/destroys the monster.

Yes, the first Godzilla was like that... In 1954 when Godzilla was analogous to the atomic threat. And then they went on and made his movies interestingby having Godzilla fight other kaiju. And NONE OF US really waxes nostalgic about 1954 Godzilla. We remember the ones where he's fighting other kaiju, not the one where he's just  crushing the city and being repelled by humans.

I had such high hopes for this movie, but it looks like it's basically going to be Cloverfield, Godzilla 1954, Godzilla 1998, and every other disaster film in the past 50 years.

Look, producers: It's EASY.  Godzilla movies are 1/2 disaster movie, and 1/2 pro wrestling with giant fricking monsters. That's IT. You can have your disaster movie crap, but you MUST include the over-the-top fighting. You MUST include another monster, and the ENTIRE last reel of the film should be spent on the two monsters fighting.

Build-up
Arrival
Fight
End

That's it. That's goddamned ALL there is to it, and you had to artsy-fartsy f♥ck it all up and change the f♥cking formula. Goddamn, this is disappointing-looking.


They made the movie you're wishing for - it was called Pacific Rim - and no one in America would see it. But it was AWESOME
2013-12-10 04:43:20 PM  
4 votes:
WHY NOT GAMERA!!!

/Hope this one turns out alright...
//I REAAAALLY want him to face Gidorah eventually...
2013-12-10 04:09:42 PM  
4 votes:
Looks pretty cool. Of course it will never live up to the original with Matthew Broderick.
2013-12-10 08:10:46 PM  
2 votes:
I wasn't the biggest fan of Monsters, but there's no way to watch it and not wonder what kind of monster movie the director could make if he had any budget at all.

Guess we'll find out.
2013-12-10 05:10:05 PM  
2 votes:

sprag: Jet Jaguar!


If we ever see Jet Jaguar again, I'll be gobsmacked. Godzilla versus Megalon  is one of the cheesiest Godzilla movies, ever, but I still love it.
2013-12-10 04:45:42 PM  
2 votes:
That was a stupid trailer. I'll still watch it in the theater. Im one of the 5 people who saw the previous version and really enjoyed it.

And Gojira the band kicks ass.
2013-12-10 04:39:01 PM  
2 votes:
The first actor to wear the Godzilla suit in the 50's had been at the Tokyo premiere of the first Americanized Godzilla movie. "That's not Gojira. That Giant Iguana!" was what he said.

And, didn't Hollywood learn it's brutal lesson from the way their first Americanized Godzilla movie bombed and bombed HARD?

Definition of Insanity, people. Definition of Insanity.
2013-12-10 04:38:50 PM  
2 votes:
2013-12-11 12:02:37 AM  
1 votes:
If it ain't Del Toro, I don't give a shiat. Pacific Rim NAILED it. I still can't believe Adam farking Sandler beat out Pacific Rim.
2013-12-10 10:50:43 PM  
1 votes:
pauseyourgame.com

The entire trailer could've been the last 25 seconds, and I'd still be scraping together ticket money.

/Spent the entire time waiting for the roar.
2013-12-10 08:33:44 PM  
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: And NONE OF US really waxes nostalgic about 1954 Godzilla.


I do.
2013-12-10 08:31:43 PM  
1 votes:
What's with all the white people? And where's Gypsy Danger when you need her?
2013-12-10 08:30:16 PM  
1 votes:

traxan: TV's Vinnie: There goes Tokyo.

/OH NO!

Actually, during the wide shot of the paratroopers, you could clearly see the Transamerica building, one of the most recognizable buildings in San Francisco.

[cdn2.gbot.me image 375x500]


That's what I saw as well. Beats new york..again. But that's the same place as in Pacific Rim, isn't it? I really hope they tie it in somehow. I know Guillermo Del Toro was saying he'd like to do a sequel with Godzilla fighting the Yeagers, but I know that's wishful thinking. But it'd be so awesome.
2013-12-10 08:21:56 PM  
1 votes:
Cranston? Welp, guess I'll need to give this movie a chance now.
2013-12-10 07:47:05 PM  
1 votes:
It's got one thing going for it: they've made Godzilla absolutely farking massive.
2013-12-10 06:33:18 PM  
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Do you have a link to the teaser trailer? I'm trying to find it, but every one I find has been taken down by WB


http://www.filmofilia.com/gojira-the-first-teaser-trailer-for-godzil la -171619/
2013-12-10 06:11:22 PM  
1 votes:

Richard C Stanford: DeltaPunch: ZeroCorpse: Goddammit, they Just. Don't. F♥cking. Get it.  Do they?

This is clearly going to be yet another Man versus Disaster/Monster movie. It's humanity fighting against Godzilla and they're treating Godzilla as a natural disaster yet again.

But the appeal of Godzilla movies is not "giant monster destroys city and is repelled by clever humans" -- It was NEVER that. It was "Godzilla gets in a fight with another giant monster, and together they destroy the city until one is defeated and the other leaves town."

The appeal of Godzilla is the kaiju battles, not the goddamn military shooting shiat at a giant monster while some subplot with characters we're supposed to love plods onward showing how devastated they are by the destruction until one of them comes up with a Hail Mary plan that drives the monster away/destroys the monster.

Yes, the first Godzilla was like that... In 1954 when Godzilla was analogous to the atomic threat. And then they went on and made his movies interestingby having Godzilla fight other kaiju. And NONE OF US really waxes nostalgic about 1954 Godzilla. We remember the ones where he's fighting other kaiju, not the one where he's just  crushing the city and being repelled by humans.

I had such high hopes for this movie, but it looks like it's basically going to be Cloverfield, Godzilla 1954, Godzilla 1998, and every other disaster film in the past 50 years.

Look, producers: It's EASY.  Godzilla movies are 1/2 disaster movie, and 1/2 pro wrestling with giant fricking monsters. That's IT. You can have your disaster movie crap, but you MUST include the over-the-top fighting. You MUST include another monster, and the ENTIRE last reel of the film should be spent on the two monsters fighting.

Build-up
Arrival
Fight
End

That's it. That's goddamned ALL there is to it, and you had to artsy-fartsy f♥ck it all up and change the f♥cking formula. Goddamn, this is disappointing-looking.

What movie is that from?


Godzilla vs. Megalon. The screencap is from the MST3K episode.
2013-12-10 05:48:30 PM  
1 votes:

HairyNevus: Was that the 2001: A Space Odyssey music at the beginning?From when they're about to take the picture in front of the obelisk? At least RATM didn't sell out a track for it (again...(probably)).


Yup, its Gyorgy Ligeti's Requiem.

PERFECT music, I think, since it looks like they are going for the "eldritch abomination" angle.
2013-12-10 05:14:33 PM  
1 votes:

Contrabulous Flabtraption: They made the movie you're wishing for - it was called Pacific Rim - and no one in America would see it. But it was AWESOME


I own it, and yes, it's pretty cool... But those monsters were kinda blah compared to big G. The robots were awesome, but the kaiju were dumb-looking and didn't get much screen-time.

Also, they spent way too much time on the giant robot fan-service, and not enough time on the kaiju fan service. Despite the cross-over, they are two different crowds, and I'm more of a kaiju fan than a giant robot fan.

I really don't want to spend an hour learning about the farking pilots. Kaiju don't have pilots; They just kick ass without all the angsty bullshiat. They show up on opposite shores, make obscene gestures at each other, and then brawl while the human just run screaming or ineffectively point masers at them.

I like that. It's fun.
2013-12-10 05:08:48 PM  
1 votes:

Flappyhead: Blathering Idjut: ZeroCorpse: I had such high hopes for this movie, but it looks like it's basically going to be Cloverfield, Godzilla 1954, Godzilla 1998, and every other disaster film in the past 50 years.

There is another giant monster.  They're just not showing it yet.  As long it's not a gigantic moth we're gold.

It's rumored there may be several.  From what I've read human scientists screw around with stuff, create giant monsters that go on a rampage and along come Gojira to save the day.  As long as they don't go the Bay route and have the humans save the day and instead let our favorite giant monster toss the baddies through skyscrapers we're good as far as I'm concerned.


If this is true, then I retract my rant.

Unless they fark it all up by making the monsters totally lame.

A big-budget Godzilla movie should be like farking Wrestlemania III  for Kaiju.
2013-12-10 05:01:20 PM  
1 votes:
Jet Jaguar!
2013-12-10 05:00:25 PM  
1 votes:

2wolves: If I'm doing a HALO to surprise an enemy the very first thing I'd do is strap a flare to my left boot leaving a trail of smoke to exactly where I touched down.  It's only logical.


I don't think they were that worried about Godzilla running and hunting them down after they landed. They would probably hear him coming. The flares were more about being able to see each other as they fell through those dense clouds (which appeared to be at least somewhat a smoke cloud) so they don't get tangled up in each others chutes and can stay together.
2013-12-10 04:53:08 PM  
1 votes:

Old_Chief_Scott: I know I was just a little kid when the originals ran in the theater, but weren't there a metric assload more Japanese people before?


Whenever we make a Hollywood version of a foreign film, there's this assumption that Americans won't be interested in watching non-Americans (or at least non-westerners) in the same roles.

See: Let The Right One In/Let Me In, Godzilla 1998, The Girl Who..., et. al.
2013-12-10 04:34:07 PM  
1 votes:
There goes Tokyo.

/OH NO!
2013-12-10 04:23:03 PM  
1 votes:
If I'm doing a HALO to surprise an enemy the very first thing I'd do is strap a flare to my left boot leaving a trail of smoke to exactly where I touched down.  It's only logical.
 
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