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(Slate)   Living on a cul-de-sac makes you fat. It makes you a boring, predictable, blase, whitewashed suburbanite, too, but let's focus on the fatness for now   (slate.com) divider line 86
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2013-12-10 03:12:43 PM
abcdunlimited.com
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Livin' the dream...
 
2013-12-10 03:41:33 PM
You know who else lived in a cul-de-sac?

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2013-12-10 03:45:40 PM

Cajnik: [abcdunlimited.com image 485x312]
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Livin' the dream...


Like a bunch of little boxes.
 
2013-12-10 04:12:41 PM
Gotta live somewhere. Is a cul de sac any different than anywhere else? It's just the layout of the street an sometimes it makes for the most efficient use of space.

Anywhere beats a little apartment in the concrete jungle of a big city IMO but to each their own. I like my quiet suburban space and I can hop a bus downtown any time I want to deal with crowds of strangers, which is almost never.
 
2013-12-10 04:13:18 PM
Hey!

*looks down*

Oh, you may have a point.
 
2013-12-10 04:14:22 PM
A trailer park is a  kind of cul-de-sac, right?
 
2013-12-10 04:15:43 PM
I live in a cul-de-sac.... in urban Chicago.  I don't even own a car at this point.

Perhaps the cul-de-sacs aren't the problem.
 
2013-12-10 04:16:45 PM
I lived on a cul-de-sac once. It was nice. A lot better than living on a through street like I do now. Of course when I lived on the cul-de-sac the girl who would babysit best door had gigantic, genetic-freakish level boobs. Just monstrous. And she came over swimming after babysitting a couple times.

Now my neighbors are some kinda Mexicans who pee out their windows.
 
2013-12-10 04:18:02 PM
Wishy washy bullshiat.
 
2013-12-10 04:18:02 PM
Sounds like a bunch of bullshiat to me.

And once you have lived at the cul de sac part of a street, you don't want to live anywhere else.

It is one of the deal breakers when we look for a new house.
 
2013-12-10 04:19:16 PM
You can get fat if you ride da'-MARTA-bus everywhere around town too.
 
2013-12-10 04:20:05 PM
If walking and cycling are so pleasurable, why don't more people choose to cycle or walk to work?

Your definition of "pleasure" varies greatly from mine.

/Not fat.
 
2013-12-10 04:22:50 PM
So if a cul-de-sac is, by definition, a dead end, I guess I'll leave this Wright here:

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"I live on a one-way street that's also a dead end. I'm not sure how I got here."
 
2013-12-10 04:24:18 PM
www.toplessrobot.com
 
2013-12-10 04:24:20 PM
Best part of cul-de-sacs is that they're the last to be plowed by the city, providing a source of amusement after a heavy snow.  One guy will say to himself "I think I can make it." and his car gets stuck.  The next guy says "Well he got stuck, but I'll bet I can make it!" and he gets stuck too.  Repeat once or twice more.  Now there are a bunch of cars littering the street that have to be towed before the plows can get in there.  They never seem to learn, either.
 
2013-12-10 04:26:19 PM

James10952001: Gotta live somewhere. Is a cul de sac any different than anywhere else? It's just the layout of the street an sometimes it makes for the most efficient use of space.


The argument in TFA is that they aren't efficient uses of space. A bunch of cul-de-sacs strung together chokes the through-streets that connect a suburb to the outside world. A grid system is far more efficient.

But then the rest of the article is just about how cities should be walking-friendly. Which I think is true. If you're in a dense city it is stupid to set up everything for driving instead (I'm looking at you, L.A.).
 
2013-12-10 04:26:58 PM
Clusterfarked street plans drawn up by a two-year-old on crack have always infuriated me. "You can't get there from here" is NOT GOOD PLANNING.
 
2013-12-10 04:30:18 PM

UtileDysfunktion: Best part of cul-de-sacs is that they're the last to be plowed by the city, providing a source of amusement after a heavy snow.  One guy will say to himself "I think I can make it." and his car gets stuck.  The next guy says "Well he got stuck, but I'll bet I can make it!" and he gets stuck too.  Repeat once or twice more.  Now there are a bunch of cars littering the street that have to be towed before the plows can get in there.  They never seem to learn, either.


Oh, I learned. Yes, I did.
 
2013-12-10 04:31:19 PM

odinsposse: If you're in a dense city it is stupid to set up everything for driving instead (I'm looking at you, L.A.).


So you're saying it was dense to make the density of a dense city like LA not dense enough?
 
2013-12-10 04:32:56 PM
I live in a cul-de-sac.  It's 1.5 miles to the nearest bar.  I can walk it, but I always end up driving.  Kinda sucks.  Fortunately, I eat small meals and exercise.

It doesn't surprise me at all that suburbs make you fat, BTW.  When I'm in the city, the upper-middle class people are noticeably thinner.  Out at my suburban office park, the upper-middle class people are fat.  Even the vegetarians are fat.  WTF?

Yes, I know that everyone is really sexy in your exurb.
 
2013-12-10 04:35:22 PM

tricycleracer: If walking and cycling are so pleasurable, why don't more people choose to cycle or walk to work?

Your definition of "pleasure" varies greatly from mine.

/Not fat.


I love cycling for recreation, but I also love coming to work and not being a sweaty, soaking mess. Also I'd have to leave at 4am to bike to work.
 
2013-12-10 04:35:22 PM

dr.zaeus: You can get fat if you ride da'-MARTA-bus everywhere around town too.


Very little of Atlanta isn't a suburb.  Those fatasses riding MARTA in SW Atlanta are by city-planning standards living in a suburb.  Even East Atlanta is mostly 50s ranch houses over two miles from anything.
 
2013-12-10 04:37:23 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: You know who else lived in a cul-de-sac?

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www.themovieguys.net
 
2013-12-10 04:37:30 PM
Getting a kick because I live in a very walkable neighborhood in Chicago and have to commute to Atlanta for work regularly.  Luckily I discovered midtown for my hotel needs very early on or I'd be completely miserable (as opposed to half-miserable).

My gym in Chicago is just under a mile away by sidewalk and I'm able to walk there 10 months a year.  I can't imagine having to be a slave to my car.
 
2013-12-10 04:37:53 PM

Rapmaster2000: I live in a cul-de-sac.  It's 1.5 miles to the nearest bar.  I can walk it, but I always end up driving.  Kinda sucks.  Fortunately, I eat small meals and exercise.

It doesn't surprise me at all that suburbs make you fat, BTW.  When I'm in the city, the upper-middle class people are noticeably thinner.  Out at my suburban office park, the upper-middle class people are fat.  Even the vegetarians are fat.  WTF?

Yes, I know that everyone is really sexy in your exurb.


The vegetarians are fat because they aren't vegetarians, they just use it as the excuse to eat as much enriched pasta and processed bread as they can.

A carbotarian, if you will.
 
2013-12-10 04:39:50 PM

balki1867: My gym in Chicago is just under a mile away by sidewalk and I'm able to walk there 10 months a year.


Yeah, but can you get there in 26 minutes?
 
2013-12-10 04:39:53 PM
On a sidenote, the author mistakenly cites the lack of public transportation in Atlanta as a poor design choice.  That's no accident, the public transportation (or lack thereof) is specifically designed to make it hard for certain people to travel to certain places-- just sayin'
 
2013-12-10 04:40:40 PM
Suburbs = death

Get out
 
2013-12-10 04:41:15 PM

UtileDysfunktion: Best part of cul-de-sacs is that they're the last to be plowed by the city, providing a source of amusement after a heavy snow.  One guy will say to himself "I think I can make it." and his car gets stuck.  The next guy says "Well he got stuck, but I'll bet I can make it!" and he gets stuck too.  Repeat once or twice more.  Now there are a bunch of cars littering the street that have to be towed before the plows can get in there.  They never seem to learn, either.


Fun for you. See, they don't plow for shiat around here, and asking for the cul-de-sacs to be plowed is just asking to be laughed at. So I had to spend a good two hours the other night digging a trench up the 'sac a ways as well as my driveway. There's a small hill right outside the loop, so I had to go a good way and scrape down to the pavement for a lot of it. Luckily I have a good shovel. I had to be at work in the morning, I'm the only one who can reliably show up at 6am.
 
2013-12-10 04:41:59 PM
Its not the cul-de-sac, its the mindset that makes entire neighborhoods with strip malls on sidewalk free major roads with sidewalk free housing developments nestled away from anything but more developments.  I live on a cul-de-sac in the middle of a city and I picked the street to let my kids play free from traffic, but we can walk out our street and hit about 2 dozen restaurants, 2 book stores, a couple of clothing stores, some art galleries, a couple of coffee shops, 2 drug stores, one mini mart and one grocery, and 4 gas stations a maybe most important a couple of businesses (construction and manufacturing) without breaking a sweat.  A lot of the streets that houses are on here are dead ends or limited access but they are all at most two blocks from the main lines, and all have sidewalks.  Its not dead end streets that are the problem, it is the dead end mindset that residential and commercial spaces have to be as far apart as possible that forces people to do everything by car and destroys the idea of the local business and a sense of community.
 
2013-12-10 04:44:28 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: You know who else lived in a cul-de-sac?


Ed, Edd, and Eddy?
 
2013-12-10 04:44:49 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Suburbs = death

Get out


That
 
2013-12-10 04:48:41 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I lived on a cul-de-sac once. It was nice. A lot better than living on a through street like I do now. Of course when I lived on the cul-de-sac the girl who would babysit best door had gigantic, genetic-freakish level boobs. Just monstrous. And she came over swimming after babysitting a couple times.

Now my neighbors are some kinda Mexicans who pee out their windows.


I needed a good laugh, thanks.
 
2013-12-10 04:49:11 PM

Mentalpatient87: UtileDysfunktion: Best part of cul-de-sacs is that they're the last to be plowed by the city, providing a source of amusement after a heavy snow....

Fun for you. See, they don't plow for shiat around here, and asking for the cul-de-sacs to be plowed is just asking to be laughed at. So I had to spend a good two hours the other night digging a trench up the 'sac a ways as well as my driveway. There's a small hill right outside the loop, so I had to go a good way and scrape down to the pavement for a lot of it. Luckily I have a good shovel. I had to be at work in the morning, I'm the only one who can reliably show up at 6am.


Is there no one in your cul-de-sac that has a vehicle (or even a larger riding lawn mower) that will accept a plow?  You guys could all chip in and buy the plow for just such occasions...  or even pay a service to plow it out in heavy snows.
 
2013-12-10 04:52:31 PM
Yo mama's so fat she lives on a Cul-de-Sac.
 
2013-12-10 04:54:54 PM
do not give a shiat
just moved into a great house in a cul de sac
have a pool & everything
lost 10 lbs this summer swimming every day
found those 10lbs now that it's cold

suck it
 
2013-12-10 04:55:45 PM

inner ted: do not give a shiat


Certainly sounds like it.
 
2013-12-10 04:55:54 PM

Cajnik: [abcdunlimited.com image 485x312]
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Livin' the dream...


Yeah, I like to google earth my house for people I haven't seen in years.
You have to zoom into a huge expanse of trees, and then to a pasture, and there it is, castle vudu, in the middle of farking nowhere.

My 'burb friends are like, whoah, and you're single, too?
With a tinge of jells.

Because they think if they had a place in the country, they would be banging chicks there.

I got it for peace and quiet.
Not for piece and nagging.
 
2013-12-10 04:56:08 PM

MayoSlather: Cajnik: [abcdunlimited.com image 485x312]
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Livin' the dream...

Like a bunch of little boxes.




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Link
 
2013-12-10 04:56:08 PM
After living most of my life in a ghetto apartment, I love my cul de sac house. Nobody drives down my street. Hell, you can't even see my house until you're right up on it. And, there's a huge retention pond right behind it. If I have to live in the city I want to pretend I have a little bit of privacy.

And I'm not fat.
 
2013-12-10 05:03:54 PM
csb

There's a vegan/vegetaria restaurant a few miles from my house.  I'm not a veg, but I still eat it there from time to time.

The first time I went there I had been going vegan for over a week (it's a Buddhist thing {don't ask})

So, as you can expect, I'm starving, senses enhanced, irritable as fark, ready to pounce -- this must be what war senses are like because I can hear folks conversations clear accross a parking lot or across a crowded room and I'm seriously ready to kill someone and eat their liver.

The air in theplace is tense, like the tense you get at a family gathering when eating late and everyone is starving and grumpy.  But man, when that food finally comes out an hour later (probably was actually 10 minutes) to a table the folks sitting there are just grinning ear to ear.... it's like being lifted up at top speed by bungee cord because you are so happy to be getting some friggn food.

Two hours later I'm starving again and ready to eat the neighbors dog.

/vegan sucks
 
2013-12-10 05:04:11 PM

UtileDysfunktion: Mentalpatient87: UtileDysfunktion: Best part of cul-de-sacs is that they're the last to be plowed by the city, providing a source of amusement after a heavy snow....

Fun for you. See, they don't plow for shiat around here, and asking for the cul-de-sacs to be plowed is just asking to be laughed at. So I had to spend a good two hours the other night digging a trench up the 'sac a ways as well as my driveway. There's a small hill right outside the loop, so I had to go a good way and scrape down to the pavement for a lot of it. Luckily I have a good shovel. I had to be at work in the morning, I'm the only one who can reliably show up at 6am.

Is there no one in your cul-de-sac that has a vehicle (or even a larger riding lawn mower) that will accept a plow?  You guys could all chip in and buy the plow for just such occasions...  or even pay a service to plow it out in heavy snows.


I said hi to the guys on either side of us once, but other than that nobody interacts with each other around here. Someone did pay to have their driveway nicely plowed, and I got to watch a backhoe do it while I dug my little rut with a shovel. Hey, at least there's good traction the street in front of that house. I've never had good, social neighbors.
 
2013-12-10 05:08:33 PM
fark you too...I also just bought a cul de sac home...in July...
And it rocks.
I'm 5'9", almost 10"...and weighed in, this morning at, 152.0.
Yeah, not fat...live in a cul de sac...
Suck it!
 
2013-12-10 05:09:10 PM

Rapmaster2000: inner ted: do not give a shiat

Certainly sounds like it.


you sound confused, how may i help?
 
2013-12-10 05:10:38 PM

devilskware: After living most of my life in a ghetto apartment, I love my cul de sac house. Nobody drives down my street. Hell, you can't even see my house until you're right up on it. And, there's a huge retention pond right behind it. If I have to live in the city I want to pretend I have a little bit of privacy.

And I'm not fat.


But your pond is apparently retaining water.
 
2013-12-10 05:12:09 PM
Hey, mandela's dead and I crapped on my neighbor's lawn. This IS America.
 
2013-12-10 05:12:48 PM

Fubegra: Clusterfarked street plans drawn up by a two-year-old on crack have always infuriated me. "You can't get there from here" is NOT GOOD PLANNING.


It's the result of people not wanting to live on busy roadways.
 
2013-12-10 05:16:56 PM

balki1867: Getting a kick because I live in a very walkable neighborhood in Chicago and have to commute to Atlanta for work regularly.  Luckily I discovered midtown for my hotel needs very early on or I'd be completely miserable (as opposed to half-miserable).

My gym in Chicago is just under a mile away by sidewalk and I'm able to walk there 10 months a year.  I can't imagine having to be a slave to my car.


You should be staying at the highland inn.
 
2013-12-10 05:17:03 PM
Hmm. Cul d'sac + 20 years of bike racing = not fat. I eat like I'm fat though.

Next.
 
2013-12-10 05:18:48 PM

UtileDysfunktion: Best part of cul-de-sacs is that they're the last to be plowed by the city, providing a source of amusement after a heavy snow.  One guy will say to himself "I think I can make it." and his car gets stuck.  The next guy says "Well he got stuck, but I'll bet I can make it!" and he gets stuck too.  Repeat once or twice more.  Now there are a bunch of cars littering the street that have to be towed before the plows can get in there.  They never seem to learn, either.


I know a dead end isn't the same as a cul-de-sac (I still don't exactly get what the hell that is - my neighborhood had straight streets, but a bunch of dead ends and no straight shot for longer than 1/3 a mile... that count?) but when people got stuck in the snow in my 1970s built Detroit 'burbs neighborhood... other people got shovels and helped out.  And whoever was out first with the snowplow would get the driveway of the older lady across the street from us, then do a few passes up and down the dead end so everyone else could just dig/plow up to the path.

Our street may have been the very very last the city ever got to, anyway.  I never remember it being plowed in a snowstorm, but I distinctly remember it coming by more than once after we'd easily dug or beat down the snow ourselves.

/shrug
 
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