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(BBC)   Domino's moans about not being able to fill staff vacancies. UK govt: Have you tried paying them a bit more?   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 108
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2013-12-10 02:37:57 PM
I wish just one politician in the US would have the balls to say this to big business (and for them to then stick to their guns.)
 
2013-12-10 02:38:15 PM
Whoa their UK, do you see Socialism as one of our toppings?
 
2013-12-10 02:40:28 PM
Dominos CEO loves him some tea bagging. He'll be a big hit in the UK.
 
2013-12-10 02:40:34 PM
Great moments in Domino's advertizing history:

2012: We're sorry our pizza used to be awful. Come back to us. We promise it's not as bad now.
2013: Our employees are incapable of using a telephone. You'd better place your order online.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-10 02:43:38 PM
If this was said to a "job creator" in the U.S. the lawmaker involved would be lucky to LIVE to the next election, let alone win another election.
 
2013-12-10 02:44:27 PM
Bunch of racists restricting the Romanians and Bulgarians.  They are only there to do the job that Brittons will not do!
 
2013-12-10 02:44:36 PM
Dominos CEO replies; you have jails full of people. Can't we teach them how to make cardboard pizza?
Slave labor will help us keep costs down.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-10 02:44:50 PM
High prices = FREE MARKET wwwaaaarrrbblllll
Compete for employees = SOSIAAALIIZZZM waaaaaarrrrgggbbbl
 
2013-12-10 02:45:17 PM

Epic Fap Session: Dominos CEO loves him some tea bagging. He'll be a big hit in the UK.


As I understand these things, the British take their tea loose because sacks are too aggressive.
 
2013-12-10 02:46:37 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Whoa their UK,...


I think you mean, whoa Domino

Roll me over, Romeo.
 
2013-12-10 02:47:06 PM
Oh snap.jpg
 
2013-12-10 02:49:14 PM
Because working(as opposed to non-working owners) people need jobs, wages for low-skilled positions tend to race-to-the-bottom in a way that's fundamentally harmful to the economy, most of the time.
 
2013-12-10 02:49:29 PM
Yeah, when your entire argument is basically "We can't fill jobs unless we hire people who are so new to this country that they don't know what a living wage is.", you might want to rethink your salaries...
 
2013-12-10 02:51:11 PM
Domino's was good for about 6 months after their reboot, then they went back to being crappy again. WTF is with that cheese anyway? It turns to rubber by the next day. Emulsifiers?
 
2013-12-10 02:52:35 PM

aedude01: I wish just one politician in the US would have the balls to say this to big business (and for them to then stick to their guns.)


Hey! Our politicians have balls. Sure, they're usually resting gently on their chins as they fellate the almighty Job Creators, but they're still balls. Why do you hate Capitalism, comrade? Here in America we love the Free Market so much that even our government is for sale to the highest bidder.
 
2013-12-10 02:53:20 PM
In other news, the Romanians and Bulgarians have done some  incredible things to revitalize the British strip club industry.  My friend said that there are some extremely attractive Eastern European girls there now instead of, well, the 99.9% of British girls who aren't Liz Hurley and Kate Beckinsale.
 
2013-12-10 02:58:07 PM

Mikey1969: Yeah, when your entire argument is basically "We can't fill jobs unless we hire people who are so new to this country that they don't know what a living wage is.", you might want to rethink your salaries...


Well, if the entire video game industry can perpetually run off naivete, why can't the approximate pizza industry?
 
2013-12-10 02:59:00 PM

aedude01: I wish just one politician in the US would have the balls to say this to big business (and for them to then stick to their guns.)


You will never see this in the states because one party has sold their souls to immigration expansion and the other to business.
 
2013-12-10 02:59:23 PM
This should be the default response to anyone who demands more work (H-1B) visas as well.
 
2013-12-10 02:59:48 PM

RangerTaylor: In other news, the Romanians and Bulgarians have done some  incredible things to revitalize the British strip club industry.  My friend said that there are some extremely attractive Eastern European girls there now instead of, well, the 99.9% of British girls who aren't Liz Hurley and Kate Beckinsale.


THEY TERK ER JERBS!
 
2013-12-10 03:07:59 PM
Interesting.  Same logic is used to hire engineers from out of the US to pay them horribly, replacing highly educated and trained engineers INSIDE the US....and we were dumb enough to fall for it. UK?  Not so much...
 
2013-12-10 03:08:03 PM

make me some tea: Domino's was good for about 6 months after their reboot, then they went back to being crappy again. WTF is with that cheese anyway? It turns to rubber by the next day. Emulsifiers?


Here in New York a pie from a real pizzeria can be $18-$22 and a pie from dominoes/pizza hut/papa johns is like $10. They sure as shiat ain't cutting costs on the flour. That fake ass cheese they use is nasty.
 
2013-12-10 03:08:20 PM
Domino's is probably an improvement over normal British cooking anyway.
 
2013-12-10 03:09:58 PM

aedude01: I wish just one politician in the US would have the balls to say this to big business (and for them to then stick to their guns.)


You and me both.
 
2013-12-10 03:11:19 PM

aedude01: I wish just one politician in the US would have the balls to say this to big business (and for them to then stick to their guns.)



Kennedy did with the steel crises 1962.   but today, all the government cocks have been bought out.   they call it democracy or something like that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWNhWANkq0Q   (SFW)
 
2013-12-10 03:12:13 PM

OdradekRex: Domino's is probably an improvement over normal British cooking anyway.


Exactly how do you boil a pizza?
 
2013-12-10 03:12:38 PM

CPennypacker: make me some tea: Domino's was good for about 6 months after their reboot, then they went back to being crappy again. WTF is with that cheese anyway? It turns to rubber by the next day. Emulsifiers?

Here in New York a pie from a real pizzeria can be $18-$22 and a pie from dominoes/pizza hut/papa johns is like $10. They sure as shiat ain't cutting costs on the flour. That fake ass cheese they use is nasty.


I miss NYC pizza. Actually, I found Nassau County pizza to be slightly superior, though. But yeah, Domino's is half the price and I admit that when living in Queens we did order Domino's occasionally until it got crappy again.
 
2013-12-10 03:14:23 PM

Boxcutta: 2013: Our employees are incapable of using a telephone. You'd better place your order online.


Domino's implementing online order was the day I was first truly proud of this country.
 
2013-12-10 03:15:30 PM

monoski: Dominos CEO replies; you have jails full of people. Can't we teach them how to make cardboard pizza?
Slave labor will help us keep costs down.



yea, Slavery!!  its so..........American.
 
2013-12-10 03:15:34 PM

CPennypacker: make me some tea: Domino's was good for about 6 months after their reboot, then they went back to being crappy again. WTF is with that cheese anyway? It turns to rubber by the next day. Emulsifiers?

Here in New York a pie from a real pizzeria can be $18-$22 and a pie from dominoes/pizza hut/papa johns is like $10. They sure as shiat ain't cutting costs on the flour. That fake ass cheese they use is nasty.


Yup. Any place worth going to will use real ass-cheese. You cant fake that.
 
2013-12-10 03:18:08 PM
1) How much *are* they paying? Does the UK have minimum wage laws?

2) in the UK employers don't even have to pay for healthcare. Can 't they afford to pay a little more?
 
2013-12-10 03:22:37 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Whoa their they're UK, do you see Socialism as one of our toppings?


Sorry, pet peave.
 
2013-12-10 03:26:11 PM
Industry is loudly moaning about the "skills shortage" in western Canada right now.  What "shortage of labor" really means is "no one's willing to do the job for the shiat pay you're offering".  Normally this would mean employers would be forced to offer better pay.  These days, they get government to allow them to import Chinese laborers for less pay.
 
2013-12-10 03:28:58 PM

d23: If this was said to a "job creator" in the U.S. the lawmaker involved would be lucky to LIVE to the next election, let alone win another election.


I just wish Domino's has this problem in the US. As far as I'm aware, there's no shortage of cheap replacement labor in the States which. One of the unfortunate side effects of a bad economy.
 
2013-12-10 03:30:58 PM
We should all do the right thing and boycott Domino's.

Not necessarily because of their business practices.

Because the make terrible pizza.
 
2013-12-10 03:31:16 PM
The notion that there is a labor shortage, in the UK or in the US, is malarkey. There is, however, a shortage of employers who are willing to pay people what the work is worth:

"Eric Isbister, the C.E.O. of GenMet, a metal-fabricating manufacturer outside Milwaukee, told me that he would hire as many skilled workers as show up at his door. Last year, he received 1,051 applications and found only 25 people who were qualified. He hired all of them, but soon had to fire 15. Part of Isbister's pickiness, he says, comes from an avoidance of workers with experience in a 'union-type job.' Isbister, after all, doesn't abide by strict work rules and $30-an-hour salaries. At GenMet, the starting pay is $10 an hour. Those with an associate degree can make $15, which can rise to $18 an hour after several years of good performance. From what I understand, a new shift manager at a nearby McDonald's can earn around $14 an hour.

"The secret behind this skills gap is that it's not a skills gap at all. I spoke to several other factory managers who also confessed that they had a hard time recruiting in-demand workers for $10-an-hour jobs. 'It's hard not to break out laughing,' says Mark Price, a labor economist at the Keystone Research Center, referring to manufacturers complaining about the shortage of skilled workers. 'If there's a skill shortage, there has to be rises in wages,' he says. 'It's basic economics.' After all, according to supply and demand, a shortage of workers with valuable skills should push wages up. Yet according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the number of skilled jobs has fallen and so have their wages."

Source.
 
2013-12-10 03:34:46 PM

Saiga410: aedude01: I wish just one politician in the US would have the balls to say this to big business (and for them to then stick to their guns.)

You will never see this in the states because one party has sold their souls to immigration expansion and the other to business.


I have yet to see an immigration reform bill that works to expand immigration to the US.
 
2013-12-10 03:38:17 PM
Lance Bachelor might be the greatest gay porn name I've ever heard.
 
2013-12-10 03:39:49 PM
Is anybody in either the Democratic or Republican parties in the US going to say this to Google, eBay, Apple, et al when they demand more H1B visas? Or to La Raza when they justify illegals breaking into the country by saying they're hard working folks doing jobs Americans won't do?

Definitely not holding my breath.
 
2013-12-10 03:40:07 PM
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
 
2013-12-10 03:40:39 PM
Roll me over,now Romeo.

There you go !
 
2013-12-10 03:42:04 PM

jjorsett: Is anybody in either the Democratic or Republican parties in the US going to say this to Google, eBay, Apple, et al when they demand more H1B visas? Or to La Raza when they justify illegals breaking into the country by saying they're hard working folks doing jobs Americans won't do?

Definitely not holding my breath.


You're obviously not going to respond to me, but part of immigration reform is to get people on the books and paid a living wage, along with having them play FICA and income tax.
 
2013-12-10 03:43:56 PM

Mikey1969: Yeah, when your entire argument is basically "We can't fill jobs unless we hire people who are so new to this country that they don't know what a living wage is.", you might want to rethink your salaries...


No, no, no. The argument is that I, the Job Creator, deserve to make as much money as I can because I put people to work. Every penny I spend on the people I put to work is a penny out of my pocket. Why are you trying to pick my pockets, you dirty thief?

/Plus, if you care so much about them being able to "eat: or have "shelter," you should put up or shut up. You, the tax payer, need to subsidize my workers. I, on the other hand, should get huge tax breaks because I am putting people to work.
 
2013-12-10 03:50:10 PM
So, the UK decreases demand for shiat jobs, and corporations whine about it?

What ever happened to "let the free market decide"?
 
2013-12-10 03:51:02 PM

Needlessly Complicated: 1) How much *are* they paying? Does the UK have minimum wage laws?

2) in the UK employers don't even have to pay for healthcare. Can 't they afford to pay a little more?


1) $10.36 per hour for anyone over 20, $8.26 for 18-20 year olds, $6.11 for 16-17 year olds

2) UK employers pay national insurance (which is covers health care, pension, etc.), as well as the employee: someone on minimum wage full time (40 hour week) would get around $21000 would pay just over $1k out of their wages, the employer would also get a NI bill of about $1700 for that employee as well. The employee would also get income tax of about $4200 on that (if only using the standard deduction).

/because employers NI comes out before wages are paid, and therefore minimum wage is applied, effectively you could consider the minimum wage is effectively higher by that amount
 
2013-12-10 03:51:08 PM
What part of Job MARKET do you employers not understand?

Oh sure, it's all great and wonderful when your "competitive wages" means competing to pay as little as possible.  But the other side of that is that sometimes in order to compete you have to pay MORE.
 
2013-12-10 03:52:42 PM
One donation, extra large later. Gov: Yes Sir straight away sir
 
2013-12-10 03:54:25 PM

DeaH: I, on the other hand, should get huge tax breaks because I am putting people to work.


I farking HATE that, especially when it comes to a huge factory, a ball stadium, a mall, shiat like that. yeah, billion dollar companies are just to poor to pay for their own facilities... God, corporate welfare pisses me off, wherever I am.
 
2013-12-10 03:57:20 PM

Mikey1969: Yeah, when your entire argument is basically "We can't fill jobs unless we hire people who are so new to this country that they don't know what a living wage is.", you might want to rethink your salaries...


Romanians and Bulgarians aren't elligeble for British welfare.
 
2013-12-10 03:59:54 PM

dittybopper: OdradekRex: Domino's is probably an improvement over normal British cooking anyway.

Exactly how do you boil a pizza?


Boiling it is a mess, that's why they invented this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-fried_pizza
 
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