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2013-12-10 12:34:20 PM
= lawyers.
 
2013-12-10 12:43:34 PM

foo monkey: = lawyers.


Or apparently not, since this was in Canada, happened last year, and there's no indication that lawyers got involved.

But even in the United States, tragically, this would likely not be something a parent could sue for. Maybe. I'm not sure where schoolboards fit on the discretionary function exception spectrum.

I could be wrong.

God this is tragic though. I want to punch all the school administrators in the face who let this kid die through their misguided fear of drug abuse through  farking inhalers

/used an inhaler as a kid
 
2013-12-10 01:09:15 PM
The War on Drugs claims another victim.
 
2013-12-10 01:26:22 PM
Zero tolerance is zero tolerance.
You bring drugs to school, this is the price you pay.
 
2013-12-10 01:31:39 PM
vaporizor.com
 
2013-12-10 01:36:06 PM
The lesson here is that parents need to start being a LOT more vocal against asinine policies like this.

I told my kid that if the principal or a teacher tries to take away his inhaler that he should tase them.
 
2013-12-10 01:51:52 PM
= fixed cable?


/I gotta stop leaning on that meme
 
2013-12-10 01:55:37 PM
thanks darwin.
 
2013-12-10 01:57:00 PM
Surely this one case doesn't diminish the importance of preventing the inhaler abuse that is so rampant in school districts without such a policy.
 
2013-12-10 01:57:47 PM
i306.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-10 02:00:29 PM
Someone takes away my kid's inhaler, he dies from an asthma attack? If that happened down here stateside..
Lawsuit is the least of their worries. That's neligient death, and you can bet your ass I'd be doing everything in my power to get a DA to prosecute them for manslaughter.
 
2013-12-10 02:00:37 PM

almandot: Surely this one case doesn't diminish the importance of preventing the inhaler abuse that is so rampant in school districts without such a policy.


When I was in high school, that's all I heard all day from the other kids, "Hey man, you want some 'haler?  What are you, a square?!"  It was brutal!
 
2013-12-10 02:00:40 PM
Seems like a wrongful death lawsuit would be a no-brainer.
 
2013-12-10 02:01:24 PM
SO how much have these zero tolerance policies benefited schools vs the detrimental effects? Personally, I think they're probably working about as well as the overall war on drugs. A SMART school district would have a list of 'allowed' items(Such as inhalers), and make the policy so that it can easily be amended if they neglected to put something on it the first time.Instead, they get lazy, throw this zero tolerance shiat out there, and then refuse to ever fix it when the dumb shiat is pointed out.
 
2013-12-10 02:01:34 PM
FFS, seriously. Let the damn kids carry their inhalers.
 
2013-12-10 02:02:42 PM
Just when you think they can't get any dumber...
 
2013-12-10 02:03:43 PM

gopher321: = fixed cable?


/I gotta stop leaning on that meme


This
 
2013-12-10 02:03:54 PM

Diogenes: [vaporizor.com image 399x459]


That seems like a whole lot more work than a square of aluminum foil and a toothpick. Yes, I used to use my inhaler as a bowl.
 
2013-12-10 02:05:42 PM

Jument: FFS, seriously. Let the damn kids carry their inhalers.


Uh no, then the student could be using it as a marijuana bowl during a bathroom trip...you don't WANT that do you!?!?

/sarcasm
 
2013-12-10 02:05:50 PM

Diogenes: vaporizor.com


Not quite sure what your point is there. A device intended for use with illegal drugs and looks similar to medical devices exists, so policies that end up with injured and dead kids are ok?
 
2013-12-10 02:06:40 PM
Completely unacceptable. If I was that boys parent, I'd be tempted to shuffle loose the mortal coils of a few worthless administrator scum.
 
2013-12-10 02:07:06 PM

AkaranD: Someone takes away my kid's inhaler, he dies from an asthma attack? If that happened down here stateside..
Lawsuit is the least of their worries. That's neligient death, and you can bet your ass I'd be doing everything in my power to get a DA to prosecute them for manslaughter.


I will be right there with you.  I almost died from an asthma attack when I was 16, the only thing that saved me was that my parents both knew rescue breathing.  Spent three days in the hospital, CAT scans and MRI's and EEG's all testing for brain damage because of how long I was unconscious (I blacked out to my mother calling 911, I woke up to the paramedics standing ready with a defribulator.)

Could have been prevented if I'd had my inhaler.  Stupid thing fell behind the bed and I couldn't find it.

God so HELP the person who confiscates my inhaler, my child's inhaler, or even the inhaler of a perfect stranger.
 
2013-12-10 02:08:24 PM

Marcus Aurelius: The War on Drugs claims another victim

victory.

FTFY.
 
2013-12-10 02:09:35 PM
So a kid has a well-known medical condition that might kill him if he doesn't have instant access to his medication and the school decides to not let him carry it around? 

I'm torn between life in prison and execution. That is beyond negligence.
 
2013-12-10 02:10:44 PM
So the parents knew he was without the inhaler all the time. They chose a stupid school policy over their kid's life. Whoops.
 
2013-12-10 02:11:13 PM

cuzsis: So a kid has a well-known medical condition that might kill him if he doesn't have instant access to his medication and the school decides to not let him carry it around?
I'm torn between life in prison and execution. That is beyond negligence.


Execution ends any torment. Never go for the kill when you can go for the pain.
 
2013-12-10 02:11:34 PM
This is what is called a "never-event."  It should never happen.  Period.  There is absolutely no reason not to let a child who has diagnosed asthma carry a rescue inhaler.  They are called rescue inhalers for a reason.   I think since so many people live with asthma, we forget that some people do, in fact, DIE from it.   I have subbed as a school nurse, and worked as the on-site RN at girl scout camp.  Kids who have to take maintenance drugs are extraordinarily well versed in the routine.  They handle it better than most adults.  Just tell the kid that if he has to use his rescue inhaler that afterwards he should report to the nurses' office for assessment.  Then the nurse can log it's use each time, and be sure that no further intervention is needed.
 
2013-12-10 02:12:14 PM

Russ1642: So the parents knew he was without the inhaler all the time. They chose a stupid school policy over their kid's life. Whoops.


This is the part that gets me.
 
2013-12-10 02:12:21 PM

Dimensio: cuzsis: So a kid has a well-known medical condition that might kill him if he doesn't have instant access to his medication and the school decides to not let him carry it around?
I'm torn between life in prison and execution. That is beyond negligence.

Execution ends any torment. Never go for the kill when you can go for the pain.


I suppose that's my problem. I automatically assumed they felt no pain...being brain-dead cya school administrators and all.
 
2013-12-10 02:12:32 PM
He might let one of his friends try it out, so, they can't let him have it in case his friend suffers a reaction (dies) and they get sued for negligence. Or something like that.
 
2013-12-10 02:12:53 PM

Dimensio: cuzsis: So a kid has a well-known medical condition that might kill him if he doesn't have instant access to his medication and the school decides to not let him carry it around?
I'm torn between life in prison and execution. That is beyond negligence.

Execution ends any torment. Never go for the kill when you can go for the pain.


Agrees...download.xbox.com
 
2013-12-10 02:13:02 PM
There is no negligent homicide in Canada? Because that's what this is. The principal belongs in prison.
 
2013-12-10 02:15:01 PM
I don't understand why this was necessary to begin with.  At the beginning of the school year, you show the script and then the kid carries around their rescue inhaler.

As an asthmatic (with few symptoms thanks to Advair), I still carry my rescue inhaler everywhere.  I have forgotten it on occasion and was fortunate to pick up Primatine Mist...glad that's there just in case....oops...it isn't...THANKS EPA!
 
2013-12-10 02:16:40 PM

ashinmytomatoes: Dimensio: cuzsis: So a kid has a well-known medical condition that might kill him if he doesn't have instant access to his medication and the school decides to not let him carry it around?
I'm torn between life in prison and execution. That is beyond negligence.

Execution ends any torment. Never go for the kill when you can go for the pain.

Agrees...[download.xbox.com image 850x477]


lol! Thanks for the laugh!
 
2013-12-10 02:18:30 PM

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Asthma Inhalers are a gateway drug.
 
2013-12-10 02:19:26 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: The lesson here is that parents need to start being a LOT more vocal against asinine policies like this.

I told my kid that if the principal or a teacher tries to take away his inhaler that he should tase them.


With what?
 
2013-12-10 02:19:48 PM

Russ1642: So the parents knew he was without the inhaler all the time. They chose a stupid school policy over their kid's life. Whoops.


What are they going to do?  They cannot keep their child out of school, as that's illegal.  If the parents continue to send the child to school with the inhaler, the kid gets expelled and sent to the school they send the expelled kids to, which is operated by the same people, and has the same rules.  It'd surely turn out to be a substandard education and social experience for that child.

Their options are home-school, private school, and moving to another school district.  None of these are guaranteed to be practically possible.
 
2013-12-10 02:22:47 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Diogenes: vaporizor.com

Not quite sure what your point is there. A device intended for use with illegal drugs and looks similar to medical devices exists, so policies that end up with injured and dead kids are ok?


All these kids with 'asthma' are as fake as the autism, ADHD, and peanut allergy kids.  Inhalers are used for drugs for the most part.
 
2013-12-10 02:22:53 PM

Clever Neologism: Russ1642: So the parents knew he was without the inhaler all the time. They chose a stupid school policy over their kid's life. Whoops.

What are they going to do?  They cannot keep their child out of school, as that's illegal.  If the parents continue to send the child to school with the inhaler, the kid gets expelled and sent to the school they send the expelled kids to, which is operated by the same people, and has the same rules.  It'd surely turn out to be a substandard education and social experience for that child.

Their options are home-school, private school, and moving to another school district.  None of these are guaranteed to be practically possible.


What you've written is just stupid. If your kid needs a rescue inhaler to survive you don't let him be without it. Period. No amount of weak logic and phony legal bullshiat should convince you otherwise.
 
2013-12-10 02:25:17 PM

ELKAY: There is no negligent homicide in Canada? Because that's what this is. The principal belongs in prison.


I agree. I hope a lot of people lost their jobs and job loss would be the least of their worries if something like that happened to my nephew (well, he doesn't have asthma but if he was seriously hurt or killed at school due to negligence).
 
2013-12-10 02:27:11 PM
My son had his inhaler at the school nurse office for all his years in elementary.    He never was able to use it.
The nurse was never in her office.    He had needed it several times.

We stuck two in his backpack and told him to use them when he needed them.     Just lie to the teacher and say he was sick and going to puke.   Go get the inhaler,  and then use it in the bathroom.    We also told his friends where the inhalers were.

No matter how many times you tell schools.... they will not change the rules.

You have a better chance depending on the 4th graders themselves and thier friends to save a life.
 
2013-12-10 02:27:44 PM

Diogenes: Noticeably F.A.T.: Diogenes: vaporizor.com

Not quite sure what your point is there. A device intended for use with illegal drugs and looks similar to medical devices exists, so policies that end up with injured and dead kids are ok?

All these kids with 'asthma' are as fake as the autism, ADHD, and peanut allergy kids.  Inhalers are used for drugs for the most part.


www.morethings.com
 
2013-12-10 02:27:44 PM
It is unlikely the principal made this rule up for fun.

Normally policies are pushed on school officials by busybodies on the school board, which points fingers right back at people who are probably neighbors, who are panicked over drugs or Knockout Game or some damn thing.
 
2013-12-10 02:27:57 PM
I would make sure those school administrators were reminded everyday for the rest of their lives that they killed my kid.
 
2013-12-10 02:28:07 PM

netcentric: My son had his inhaler at the school nurse office for all his years in elementary.    He never was able to use it.
The nurse was never in her office.    He had needed it several times.

We stuck two in his backpack and told him to use them when he needed them.     Just lie to the teacher and say he was sick and going to puke.   Go get the inhaler,  and then use it in the bathroom.    We also told his friends where the inhalers were.

No matter how many times you tell schools.... they will not change the rules.

You have a better chance depending on the 4th graders themselves and thier friends to save a life.


That is so sad and scary!
 
2013-12-10 02:29:31 PM

Diogenes: Noticeably F.A.T.: Diogenes: vaporizor.com

Not quite sure what your point is there. A device intended for use with illegal drugs and looks similar to medical devices exists, so policies that end up with injured and dead kids are ok?

All these kids with 'asthma' are as fake as the autism, ADHD, and peanut allergy kids.  Inhalers are used for drugs for the most part.


So you're trolling. Got it.

Carry on.
 
2013-12-10 02:31:20 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Diogenes: Noticeably F.A.T.: Diogenes: vaporizor.com

Not quite sure what your point is there. A device intended for use with illegal drugs and looks similar to medical devices exists, so policies that end up with injured and dead kids are ok?

All these kids with 'asthma' are as fake as the autism, ADHD, and peanut allergy kids.  Inhalers are used for drugs for the most part.

So you're trolling. Got it.

Carry on.


I learned it from watching YOU Idle Hands!
 
2013-12-10 02:32:43 PM
There has to be more to this story. His friends had to carry him to the office? Where were the teachers? Also, if the kid has asthma so bad that the time between feeling symptoms and blacking out, the teacher on duty should have been carrying the inhaler.

/Has a son with asthma.
 
2013-12-10 02:33:27 PM
Well, it's good to know that the stupidity that is "zero thought tolerance" has jumped the border. We don't want to be the only country inhabited by panicky, bleating sheep begging the government to save us from imaginary threats.
 
2013-12-10 02:34:25 PM

Clever Neologism: What are they going to do?  They cannot keep their child out of school, as that's illegal.  If the parents continue to send the child to school with the inhaler, the kid gets expelled and sent to the school they send the expelled kids to, which is operated by the same people, and has the same rules.  It'd surely turn out to be a substandard education and social experience for that child.

Their options are home-school, private school, and moving to another school district.  None of these are guaranteed to be practically possible.


Well, let's weigh those options you presented:

A. Home School.
B. Private School.
C. Moving to another school district.
D. Roll the dice and hope your kid doesn't die.

Yeah, I'm going to say I'll figure out a way to make one of those other options you listed work.  Definitely not going to choose option D.
 
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